The big takeaway from this was that Game of the Year is truly subjective. Which should be obvious to most people anyways. Loved seeing so many different picks, and how passionate most were for their games. That's what really matters. Whatever game you personally enjoyed the most is completely valid. It doesn't matter what an award show or website/channel decides. Those are just suggestions to try if you haven't. Plus everyone can't play every game, and every game can't be made for everyone to enjoy. So play what you want, be happy when someone else finds a game they really love, and don't be afraid to suggest games you enjoyed to others.
@@AlanahStreams PLEASE!! That would be incredible! Also… my rebuttal for Astro would have been, “would the game be just as enjoyable without the DualSense controller?” Like was Astro REALLY that good?? OR was it mainly the DualSense that made the experience worth it?
lmao, Greg is hilarious, but yeah, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is game of the year. Can't believe it barely got any love at the game awards, I personally think it's just, all around, on another level as far as games go this year.
@ that’s dope! glad it’s getting that recognition, just feel like it’s the total package as far as games go this year. feel like it not being on PC hurt it a bit, but Astro Bot isn’t either so idk.
This was a really fun and cool idea. I wasn't able to play most of the games on the list this year, and was really great to hear about what makes these games so good. I want to play all of them even more than I did before now! Also a great way to highlight that there is no single game of the year. Everyone's is different, or even the same but for different reason, and that's effin great!
Mechabellum is my GOTY. Its fun, super addictive and feels like playing an oldschool RTS without all the clicking. Its perfect for ageing gamers that just wants to chill and still scratch that competitive itch. I cannot recommend it enough. The games I win feel great and the games I lose I always learn something from. The many small decisions really matter and you always feel like unlocking new knowledge about the game. It also constantly gets new cool updates with balance tweaks, new units and concepts etc. Its such a steal for the price.
3 hrs in this argument for ff7 rebirth i love. I thought the whole time “how is this game made and real”. The side content and open world is optional. I skipped most of it. Amazing masterpiece
2:12:24 2014 - Hearthstone was nominated for Goty 2016 - Overwatch won Goty 2017 - Pugb was nominated for Goty 2019 - Smash bros Ultimate was nominated for Goty
As a jrpg fan, my mans did a terrible job talking about metaphor and i havent gotten around to it yet. I think the problem with these games is that so many people get hung up on story and narritive and they forget to talk about the other half of the game. Gameplay and combat in particular. Yeah, its turn based, but are there any mechanics in the game? What makes it different from the rest? He didnt talk about any of that. I think alanah and andy was trying to get him to speak about those things, too and he didnt bite. I hear the passion, but man you gotta do better than that. I am a meat head. I dont play for story 😅. I hate greg 😂. Had me cracking up. Great video. Stay blessed. Sorry for the essay
I’m sold on investing in the Yakuza. I’m gonna need that episode from Alanah breaking down what’s the real entry point bc to Adam’s point there’s no chance I can play all of these 🤣
After a week with it I’m going with marvel rivals. I haven’t been obsessed with a game for a while and this has me hooooooked! Before that dragon age would have taken it for me.
I do agree with Andy with Wukong is 10/10 except the combat did not feel good for me and is not about variety or being simple is about feeling, that on games like Sifu or Stellar blade the feeling of the hits so many issues with hit boxes but besides that and invisible walls is amazing
Andy's right, Metaphor is ugly as fuck. when i first played, i turned it off after an hour because it hurt my eyes. Insane aliasing issues, super noisy shaders, over abundance of magla particles everywhere etc. My girlfriend came into the room once and immediately said it was giving her a headache to look at. I pushed through it in the end and got used to it, but it's rough as hell. its skates by on art direction just on characters and UI flare
Astro Bot is one of the best platform jumping games, but I really disagree with TGA's approach to balancing between media and players. The media clearly tends to favor creative works from major game companies rather than the gameplay itself. According to many media standards, there are a lot of independent games each year that are better choices for awards, but the media often chooses to ignore these games.
49:41 andy with the best take right there, elden ring shoulda took best art direction, metaphor is not it. If rebirth was on there, woulda picked that over everything else.
I'm really with Andy on that one, Metaphor is UGLY. The description of art direction includes animations and I'm sorry but besides the anime scenes which are few and far between, the animation work is just not up there with Rebirth whatsoever. Certainly not up there with From. People get wowed by the UI, but the best part of the art for me is the character portraits. The in-game models are just so middling.
@@HastyElderHaman it's funny cause when you're reading the unvoiced dialogues your eyes are always focused on the character face portraits at the bottom vs the in game models which look janky af.
I really wish you would have had Maximillian Dood to talk about rebirth. Has great viewpoints on ff7 as well as games in general especially fighting games
I'm also glad somebody here has DA The Veilguard as their game of the year. While I'm not done with it yet, and it's not my personal GoTY, I'm having an amazing time with it. It's my first full DA game outside of about 20 or so hours of Inquisition which could be why seeing as how I have no history with the franchise but the hate for the game has me so confused at times. Outside of a few cringy dialogue sequences and questionable story beats, I'm loving it, the story is entertaining and I love the cast of characters. The combat is easily my favorite thing, decided to go Warrior on my first play through and it's just a blast, can't wait to try Rouge and Mage. Outside of combat I love how my Rook feels like the main character of the game and not just a character I created, Bioware did a great job at making your character feel like the main character for sure. Overall a great game, and the hate is wild in my opinion. Can't wait to finish it.
god the comments at the girl who voted DAV as goty was something else lol i think ya people forgot is was her personal goty no one cares if you think it was bad game she liked it and that what matters
and that's fine. the game objectively was OK. she thought it was game of the year....I mean fine. not that deep. BUT defending the writing, and saying it's a matter of taste...says more about her than about the game.,
What was the deal with the Greg Miller guy? Was he just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole? Anyway I'm 3 hours and 32 minutes in and I've enjoyed listening to all the different perspectives on why everybody loves their own personal Game of the Year game.
@@andrewpharr33got it, thanks for filling me in on the context. Didn’t know who he was and thought he was joking until I noticed everybody else didn’t seem happy with him and then thought he might have been just being a jerk over something petty.
@@danielbland309Not sure I know what you mean. PC gamer as in politically correct, a person who plays video games on the pc or someone who writes for the pc gamer?
I'm sorry but..."Veilguard writing is a matter of taste"? More like lack thereof in case of the lady that was defending it... I honestly didn't think ANYONE here would be insane enough to suggest Veilguard as GOTY. I'm just gonna assume she has a concussion or something...
Considering she hasn’t actually played any of the Dragon Age games or Baldur’s Gate 3, makes me think she really likes the premise of choice based games, but hasn’t really played any of them before. 😂
The invisible walls you complained about in Wukong in terms of level design are only in Chapter 1, which is mostly linear. They largely disappear in chapter 2, are gone by chapters 3-5, and chapter 6 is semi-open world. The level design changes from each chapter. Destin didn't do the best job selling the game or corrected this when you brought it up. I was yelling at the screen lol. I implore you to try getting back into the game you so can see for yourself why its so beloved.
This is the best format GOTY discussion I've ever seen?! With incredible guests?! Would love to see this every year!
Greg Miller won.
Who?
The Oreo guy?
Damn i have a lot of time without hearing him
that was a fun way to open the stream roasted everyone lol
@@AlanahStreamsdamn 😅
Andy’s rebuttal to “your argument is they made a video game, the others also made a video game” with “yeah.. but it’s sick” really got me! 😂
his response was exactly the entire argument for Erd Tree as GOTY in a nutshell haha
My one takeaway from this… everyone from kinda funny is funny af.
Kinda funny
You haven't even seen snowbikemike or nick yet. They're all a good group of people
As a Pakistani tekken fan watching this, big +100 points to Blessing for mentioning Pakistan!!
Very cool. I saw the core a gaming video on the Pakistani Tekken scene. Hi from Australia.
Andy's "Oh" after being disqualified is so funny. That's some The Office material there 😂
Greg turned this into a Roast 😅😅😅
"I didn't expect Greg to be roasting people for the full 10 minutes."
As a long-time fan, I certainly did
Andy sounding like Sean Harris when he was talking about Erdtree at the beginning of the stream… cracking me up
This was absolutely a wonderful stream, I look forward to it next year!
Britt won the debate but people weren't ready to hear that Like a Dragon dropped another goty.
My man
Love Andy! Please let this be a new yearly tradition.
Starts at 2:57
Thanks boss
Thanks
I love that Greg Miller spent all of the time he had to talk about GOTY shitting on everyone else.
He made good points lol lots of those were probably pulled from comment sections
The big takeaway from this was that Game of the Year is truly subjective. Which should be obvious to most people anyways. Loved seeing so many different picks, and how passionate most were for their games. That's what really matters.
Whatever game you personally enjoyed the most is completely valid. It doesn't matter what an award show or website/channel decides. Those are just suggestions to try if you haven't.
Plus everyone can't play every game, and every game can't be made for everyone to enjoy. So play what you want, be happy when someone else finds a game they really love, and don't be afraid to suggest games you enjoyed to others.
This was absolutely delightful, thank you Alanah Andy and all behind the scenes for making it work!
Greg won
I love this format of a debate, I love the shenanigans and stabs. I love it.
Loved this! It would be an absolute dream to talk games with you one day! This was a fun watch! Greg kills me. 😂 Thank you!
Oh I’d love to have you next year!!!
@@AlanahStreams PLEASE!! That would be incredible!
Also… my rebuttal for Astro would have been, “would the game be just as enjoyable without the DualSense controller?”
Like was Astro REALLY that good?? OR was it mainly the DualSense that made the experience worth it?
Watched this live and was smiling the whole time. Really bummed though I was hoping somebody from Easy Allies would appear 😢.
I just don’t really know them!
Joking aside, this is actually a really thorough wrap up of the whole gaming year, like a little time capsule. Bravo.
Lawrence had the absolute best presentation as expected
lmao, Greg is hilarious, but yeah, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is game of the year. Can't believe it barely got any love at the game awards, I personally think it's just, all around, on another level as far as games go this year.
It won a bunch if golden joysticks
@ that’s dope! glad it’s getting that recognition, just feel like it’s the total package as far as games go this year. feel like it not being on PC hurt it a bit, but Astro Bot isn’t either so idk.
This was a really fun and cool idea. I wasn't able to play most of the games on the list this year, and was really great to hear about what makes these games so good. I want to play all of them even more than I did before now! Also a great way to highlight that there is no single game of the year. Everyone's is different, or even the same but for different reason, and that's effin great!
FF7 Rebirth is GOTY.
Fight me.
Time and place, hobo. Let's go.
@@SupahNerd *FFVII battle theme starts*
Doubtful. But some gamers love cash grabs.
@@kritikalgamer If you truly think Rebirth is a cash grab there's no way you've played it lol
@misterhoobomaster I'm not going to argue irrelevant information. I've had FF7 fans admit it is a cash grab, but they still like it.
This was an awesome format and video in general. Sad I couldn't get to it live
Jirard joke is hilarious
Mechabellum is my GOTY.
Its fun, super addictive and feels like playing an oldschool RTS without all the clicking. Its perfect for ageing gamers that just wants to chill and still scratch that competitive itch. I cannot recommend it enough.
The games I win feel great and the games I lose I always learn something from. The many small decisions really matter and you always feel like unlocking new knowledge about the game. It also constantly gets new cool updates with balance tweaks, new units and concepts etc. Its such a steal for the price.
3 hrs in this argument for ff7 rebirth i love. I thought the whole time “how is this game made and real”. The side content and open world is optional. I skipped most of it. Amazing masterpiece
Greg had me weak 😂😂😭
Im glad Andy threw in 1000xRESIST, easily my GoTY
I love Andy the best haha
2:12:24
2014 - Hearthstone was nominated for Goty
2016 - Overwatch won Goty
2017 - Pugb was nominated for Goty
2019 - Smash bros Ultimate was nominated for Goty
As a jrpg fan, my mans did a terrible job talking about metaphor and i havent gotten around to it yet. I think the problem with these games is that so many people get hung up on story and narritive and they forget to talk about the other half of the game.
Gameplay and combat in particular. Yeah, its turn based, but are there any mechanics in the game? What makes it different from the rest? He didnt talk about any of that. I think alanah and andy was trying to get him to speak about those things, too and he didnt bite. I hear the passion, but man you gotta do better than that. I am a meat head. I dont play for story 😅.
I hate greg 😂. Had me cracking up.
Great video. Stay blessed. Sorry for the essay
7:25 Andy’s out here leaking his Twitter bookmarks
Cool to see Adam Cole 😮
He's a scumbag. Glad pat mcafee kicked his ass
Hell yeah two of my favorite people
I posted this before I realized more people would show up shit shit shit shit
@@Zekespeke Don’t delete this. Sit in your shame…
Astro BOT is the Game Of The Year in my head and at The Game Awards. Marvel Rivals is the Game Of The Year in my heart.
We are very very different
Listen, 1000xResist is my GOTY, but Janet's presentation was so great I may have to change my mind.
I love rebirth but Greg just murder everyone
I love Andy lol
What a year for games
I’m sold on investing in the Yakuza. I’m gonna need that episode from Alanah breaking down what’s the real entry point bc to Adam’s point there’s no chance I can play all of these 🤣
Adam Cole BAY BAY!!!!!!✌🏻
After a week with it I’m going with marvel rivals. I haven’t been obsessed with a game for a while and this has me hooooooked! Before that dragon age would have taken it for me.
Gary won
Astro is my GOTY but I will say I am interested in trying a few of these I missed like UFO 50 or Dragon Age
UFO 50 is really great but also very difficult since it’s all 80s games
My favorite game was nine souls. Its hollow knight with sekiro combat. Sad didn't get any recognition
Andy’s only bad take ever. DLC as goty.
I do agree with Andy with Wukong is 10/10 except the combat did not feel good for me and is not about variety or being simple is about feeling, that on games like Sifu or Stellar blade the feeling of the hits so many issues with hit boxes but besides that and invisible walls is amazing
Andy's right, Metaphor is ugly as fuck. when i first played, i turned it off after an hour because it hurt my eyes. Insane aliasing issues, super noisy shaders, over abundance of magla particles everywhere etc.
My girlfriend came into the room once and immediately said it was giving her a headache to look at. I pushed through it in the end and got used to it, but it's rough as hell. its skates by on art direction just on characters and UI flare
does the audio not soud bad for everyone else? Alana’s fine but everyone else sounds terrible
Andy is my dad!
Need more Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
W debate
suzi cheesecakes! hell yeah always love seeing suzi and the kinda funny guys!
Astro Bot is one of the best platform jumping games, but I really disagree with TGA's approach to balancing between media and players. The media clearly tends to favor creative works from major game companies rather than the gameplay itself. According to many media standards, there are a lot of independent games each year that are better choices for awards, but the media often chooses to ignore these games.
49:41 andy with the best take right there, elden ring shoulda took best art direction, metaphor is not it. If rebirth was on there, woulda picked that over everything else.
Nah, DLCs don't deserve awards over new projects. Absolutely deserve the praise, though.
@@Kingdom850 just in terms of what they nominated at game awards but i agree dlcs should only be in a "best expansion/dlc" category
I'm really with Andy on that one, Metaphor is UGLY. The description of art direction includes animations and I'm sorry but besides the anime scenes which are few and far between, the animation work is just not up there with Rebirth whatsoever. Certainly not up there with From. People get wowed by the UI, but the best part of the art for me is the character portraits. The in-game models are just so middling.
@@HastyElderHaman it's funny cause when you're reading the unvoiced dialogues your eyes are always focused on the character face portraits at the bottom vs the in game models which look janky af.
TETRIS won, just like every year. what is everyone talking about?
Janet FTW! She always puts the work in.
Oof what a cheap shot from gregg with that completionist+skill up picture 😅
2024 game of the year is indiana jones
Noice!
I really wish you would have had Maximillian Dood to talk about rebirth. Has great viewpoints on ff7 as well as games in general especially fighting games
All i played this year was dragon age and ff7. Ff7 is my goty.
Jessica Nigiri RIP
I'm also glad somebody here has DA The Veilguard as their game of the year. While I'm not done with it yet, and it's not my personal GoTY, I'm having an amazing time with it. It's my first full DA game outside of about 20 or so hours of Inquisition which could be why seeing as how I have no history with the franchise but the hate for the game has me so confused at times. Outside of a few cringy dialogue sequences and questionable story beats, I'm loving it, the story is entertaining and I love the cast of characters. The combat is easily my favorite thing, decided to go Warrior on my first play through and it's just a blast, can't wait to try Rouge and Mage. Outside of combat I love how my Rook feels like the main character of the game and not just a character I created, Bioware did a great job at making your character feel like the main character for sure. Overall a great game, and the hate is wild in my opinion. Can't wait to finish it.
Elden Ring is Long
Too long
god the comments at the girl who voted DAV as goty was something else lol i think ya people forgot is was her personal goty no one cares if you think it was bad game she liked it and that what matters
and that's fine. the game objectively was OK. she thought it was game of the year....I mean fine. not that deep. BUT defending the writing, and saying it's a matter of taste...says more about her than about the game.,
dragons dogma 2 was goty and it isn't even close
I don't know this "Craig Miller", and I don't think he's a bit funny, let alone "kind of funny"
Did Jirard write this?
What was the deal with the Greg Miller guy? Was he just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole? Anyway I'm 3 hours and 32 minutes in and I've enjoyed listening to all the different perspectives on why everybody loves their own personal Game of the Year game.
He's close friends with all of them, it's very on brand for his comedy and he kind of is a character, he's joking.
This reads like something a PC gamer would write
@@andrewpharr33got it, thanks for filling me in on the context.
Didn’t know who he was and thought he was joking until I noticed everybody else didn’t seem happy with him and then thought he might have been just being a jerk over something petty.
@@danielbland309Not sure I know what you mean.
PC gamer as in politically correct, a person who plays video games on the pc or someone who writes for the pc gamer?
@@egontokessy1610 Another inside joke I presume, as Greg hates on PC (computer) gamers all the time.
I'm sorry but..."Veilguard writing is a matter of taste"? More like lack thereof in case of the lady that was defending it... I honestly didn't think ANYONE here would be insane enough to suggest Veilguard as GOTY. I'm just gonna assume she has a concussion or something...
Considering she hasn’t actually played any of the Dragon Age games or Baldur’s Gate 3, makes me think she really likes the premise of choice based games, but hasn’t really played any of them before. 😂
can you invite asmongold here? lol
No
that would've been amazing lol, but yeah media hates asmon, they won't risk their brand by collabing with asmon
I don’t hate Asmon and am not concerned about my brand. Sure, I’ll ask him next year!
@@AlanahStreams next year as in January 2025 or after next year's game awards lol?
@@AlanahStreams this would suck bc he's a massive bigot
The invisible walls you complained about in Wukong in terms of level design are only in Chapter 1, which is mostly linear. They largely disappear in chapter 2, are gone by chapters 3-5, and chapter 6 is semi-open world. The level design changes from each chapter. Destin didn't do the best job selling the game or corrected this when you brought it up. I was yelling at the screen lol. I implore you to try getting back into the game you so can see for yourself why its so beloved.
Nine Sols is the true GOTY of this year sorry