pvlace really tried to put gunboi in a bad light framing him as unstable and broken. and at the end of his statement he is talking bout character assassination lmao. he also tried to play the emotional card and this shows how little he cares about gunboi.
Pvlace is really trying to insult the audience's intelligence with that long winded manipulative bs statement he made. Gvnboi has mountains of evidence to prove that he is telling the truth. Pvlace is a snake
why does pvlace bring up the backstory of their entire relationship? it contributes nothing to the conversaition and it doesn't make it okay to do what he did anyway.
I understand what pvlace did to gunboi, how he helped him out and shit, but credits are important in this producing game. Ever since I started watching gunboi live streams on twitch he usually starts by making midis or loops for pvlace for them to place it, but the fact that you don’t give your co producer/ friend credits and keep stealing his beats that’s a completely red flag, but turns out that pvlace is using him for his own benefit.
Its oranges and apples. One thing does not justify the other. Gunboi discovered this issue, and Pvlace just replied talking about a whole different story. He addresses the main subject for like 5min, if even. So saaad seeing that pvlace is doing.
As someone who met Gunboi before his name was even Gunboi I definitely believe Gunboi, I met bro back in RichmondVa like 2013-2014, & we not even friends we a had a mutual homie I was around Gunboi a couple times that’s it & I can tell you his jazz playing on the keys been good & he seemed like normal chill dude.
I "watched" both videos, and Pvlace really dances around the issues, in his response. Typically, when someone is being disingenuous, there is a convoluted explanation, addressing everything except the accusations, directly. It seems like what Pvlace is saying, is that he felt it reasonable to exclude Gunboi's official credits because of all these other things going on... Gunboi is specific, while Pvlace is talking about something else, entirely. Sounds like a bunch of meaningless explanation.
Thanks for taking the time to summarize the whole topic! It is really hilarious. In my opinion the whole point of his video (pvlace) is to keep at least a few people on his side who don't deal with the whole thing any further
Pvlace's statement was bad. He reveals way too much personal information about Gunboi, portrays him as unstable, and never gets to the point which was just the credits none of this other shit lmao. Gunboi goes straight to facts everytime and the way he speaks always seems genuine.
Sorry man I have to correct you here. The situation is funny. It's VERY funny 🤣 I swear if they don't keep bitching at each other for years to come I'll be so pissed. I don't even know who these dudes are but I'm here for this drama series.
The most FUNNY/NOT FUNNY video ever! the "not sure if you could kill someone with a smack?!... assuming you would have to be a Dragon Ball Z character to make that happen!... funny as f*ck! Not being able to keep a straight face had me rolling! Nice work as usual!
Just like Harmonic Studio tried to do to me when he came to my home studio to check out a session with a rapper. In that session, he removed a cpl loops from my beat, removed a cpl notes from the bassline, then added a snare to end each verse and did a quick mix, and when they released the music video a cpl days later (a video shoot I never knew out about despite it being a collab album between me and the rapper) he had his producer tag on it with the text "produced by" on screen at the start with just his name and didn't credit me at all. He tried to play it off like the "produced by" meant "directed by", then when I tried to settle for giving him "additional production by" in the video description he declined and said he's only giving me "co-produced by" credit with him as the first-named producer
@5:43 Yeah man it's possible, my FL STUDIO makes slaps that kill too. Oooh Snap! FL Gang stand up baby!! 😂 You know I had to get one in real quick. I'm lovin' the success and growth of your channel brotha, great stuff! Not sure what's up with the two "Real Housewives of Music Production" here, but I have ZERO respect for biters, jackers, and loyalty issues. They could be making major staaaacks together right now! 💲🤷🏾♂
All I’m gonna say is back in 2019-2020 I watched gunbois stream for hours on end whenever he streamed on twitch and gunboi is cool people and very talented as a producer. Pvlace always seemed shady as fuck.
Palace comes across as privileged bratty kid just trying to make as much money as he can honestly. Just has too many questionable moves around him not to make me think he's snakey especially going behind Sizzles back trying to sell 808 mafia merch in Europe.
So kids moral of the story, do not give your work to others unless you gave it a clear brand that it's yours. Make some lady with a hot voice say your name and layer it throughout the song and just never give away midi unless you are okay with them using it without crediting you. If you don't some lackluster producer will steal it and you'd be left to fight a social media bih fight like these two fools. They both are pathetically unprofessional.
The fact that palace is not being completely honest with his response is what really bothers me. All he had to do was admit to not putting him onto the credits, and owning to that mistake. Why make a 30 min long video tip toeing around that it’s a waist of everybody’s time
Why is the music industry imploding like this? If artists see no value in our music.. release acapellas and keep it pushin. Otherwise stop stealing from people and share the publishing and royalties. Why are these fools fighting over scraps? They are acting super unprofessional and should have come to an agreement up front. Now they looking like some teenage school girls.
Going off on a tangent, a dead give away of a liar. I don't hear arguments to disprove the claims of being caught a thief multiple times. Even if he could claim he co-produced the song he will still look bad, like why Gunboi is not credited and why isn't he receiving money too from the tracks.
He probably told his manager "That beat he stole from me slaps." Then he got shook. If you make music w/somebody they get credit, and percentages of the publishing; or bought out later by negotiation for their co-ownership. You shouldn't have to catch somebody not doing that to get that done. All that extra emotional history has nothing to do with no credit and/or not paying for beats they collaborate on. It's different if you are paying a session musician, but I don't think that was their arrangement. And those people make money before the recording process. Also, Germans should stay the hell out of rap.
i don't know why palace has to steal beats to be a platinum producer, i just woke up platinum one day without any music theory, i used unison drum monkey for my drums, unison midi chord pack and a.i. melody creator for my melodies, then dropped some unison sound doctor on my sounds, and blam, i woke up platinum the next day without any music production experience.
So basically two friends got into disagreement because of money. throwing each other under the bus. Fame got to both of them and didn’t wanted to share anymore. It’s sad they trashed their friendship over money and fame. Now they both have nothing in the end.
Naw basically a white boy stole from a black boy and took all the credit for himself and the white boy did everything he could to discredit the black boy he stole from in the 1st place but all that did was make the white boy look more like the 👿 he truly is.. Basically history repeating himself.
What? Neither of them have nothing. Pvlace's reputation has taken a hit, but if anything this only gives more spotlight to both of them. And why are you talking like it's equally much both their faults when almost all of the blame very clearly lies on Pvlace?
@@Aywusgod He's talking like its equal blame because he fell for Pvlace's emotional manipulation piece. Looks like it worked on someone after all! LMAO
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pvlace really tried to put gunboi in a bad light framing him as unstable and broken. and at the end of his statement he is talking bout character assassination lmao. he also tried to play the emotional card and this shows how little he cares about gunboi.
"how little he cares about gunboi" *proceeds to make half hour video about gunboi*
@@brrtbrrt1452 it was 28 minutes
@@d3rduck oh my bad was blind
@@brrtbrrt1452 pvlace cares about himself, not gunboi
@@brrtbrrt1452 Yeah, to make himself look less bad, not because he cares about gunboi
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Pvlace is really trying to insult the audience's intelligence with that long winded manipulative bs statement he made. Gvnboi has mountains of evidence to prove that he is telling the truth. Pvlace is a snake
why does pvlace bring up the backstory of their entire relationship? it contributes nothing to the conversaition and it doesn't make it okay to do what he did anyway.
Because he’s a manipulative loser. He’s purposely making it sound more complicated than it is because he’s trying to to save his image
THIS
pvlace is basically saying "well I helped him a lot and paid for a lot of things so it's okay that I didn't pay him"
I understand what pvlace did to gunboi, how he helped him out and shit, but credits are important in this producing game. Ever since I started watching gunboi live streams on twitch he usually starts by making midis or loops for pvlace for them to place it, but the fact that you don’t give your co producer/ friend credits and keep stealing his beats that’s a completely red flag, but turns out that pvlace is using him for his own benefit.
Its oranges and apples. One thing does not justify the other. Gunboi discovered this issue, and Pvlace just replied talking about a whole different story. He addresses the main subject for like 5min, if even. So saaad seeing that pvlace is doing.
As someone who met Gunboi before his name was even Gunboi I definitely believe Gunboi, I met bro back in RichmondVa like 2013-2014, & we not even friends we a had a mutual homie I was around Gunboi a couple times that’s it & I can tell you his jazz playing on the keys been good & he seemed like normal chill dude.
German here: German mainstream Hiphop is so disgustingly scummy; the people, the music, the live performances, everything.
Homie hip hop live is a joke. No one knows their own lyrics. Has to have a back track. They aren't performers, just clowns.
@@djsusan00 its me, im the clown :/
@@maricorp.449 rehearse your music then, actually practice it.
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I "watched" both videos, and Pvlace really dances around the issues, in his response. Typically, when someone is being disingenuous, there is a convoluted explanation, addressing everything except the accusations, directly. It seems like what Pvlace is saying, is that he felt it reasonable to exclude Gunboi's official credits because of all these other things going on...
Gunboi is specific, while Pvlace is talking about something else, entirely. Sounds like a bunch of meaningless explanation.
I've been waiting for your response more than I was waiting for pvlace's response 😂😂
Frfr 😂
Pvlace the 🧢 mafia
he should trademark that and do merch bundles like he always wanted lol
You are doing gods work. I want drama but I have commitment issues. I need the spark notes.
When you're spineless the lightest of slaps can be deadly.
Thanks for taking the time to summarize the whole topic! It is really hilarious. In my opinion the whole point of his video (pvlace) is
to keep at least a few people on his side who don't deal with the whole thing any further
Right! 😼🫶🏼
We learned NOTHIN today 😂😂
😂😂😂
Pvlace's statement was bad. He reveals way too much personal information about Gunboi, portrays him as unstable, and never gets to the point which was just the credits none of this other shit lmao.
Gunboi goes straight to facts everytime and the way he speaks always seems genuine.
Palace looks like a guy that would steal beats for a living.
I think I am more confused than ever now!
What is going on?
Who are these people?
Who am I?
Thank you for covering this 😮❤
Sorry man I have to correct you here. The situation is funny. It's VERY funny 🤣 I swear if they don't keep bitching at each other for years to come I'll be so pissed. I don't even know who these dudes are but I'm here for this drama series.
The most FUNNY/NOT FUNNY video ever! the "not sure if you could kill someone with a smack?!... assuming you would have to be a Dragon Ball Z character to make that happen!... funny as f*ck! Not being able to keep a straight face had me rolling! Nice work as usual!
Just like Harmonic Studio tried to do to me when he came to my home studio to check out a session with a rapper. In that session, he removed a cpl loops from my beat, removed a cpl notes from the bassline, then added a snare to end each verse and did a quick mix, and when they released the music video a cpl days later (a video shoot I never knew out about despite it being a collab album between me and the rapper) he had his producer tag on it with the text "produced by" on screen at the start with just his name and didn't credit me at all. He tried to play it off like the "produced by" meant "directed by", then when I tried to settle for giving him "additional production by" in the video description he declined and said he's only giving me "co-produced by" credit with him as the first-named producer
Great cover bro, we need these
pvLace is a L. the evidence is there
HAHAHA you still make it somehow funny af... good job yo
Let’s make some garage/piano house babyyyy
@5:43 Yeah man it's possible, my FL STUDIO makes slaps that kill too. Oooh Snap! FL Gang stand up baby!! 😂 You know I had to get one in real quick. I'm lovin' the success and growth of your channel brotha, great stuff! Not sure what's up with the two "Real Housewives of Music Production" here, but I have ZERO respect for biters, jackers, and loyalty issues. They could be making major staaaacks together right now! 💲🤷🏾♂
My summary of what i learned from palaces vid:
Yeah, I've no idea who these people even are, or who greased who, but at least your takes are hilarious.
Pvlace is a thief. Those beats and melodies are clearly gunbois, he showed all the receipts.
Any chance you doing a sample police any ones we should stay away from keep up the good work bro
Yeah stay away from samples of dudes smanging it
Bro Keep this ,pliz should Justice 🦋🖤🖤🖤🖤
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All I’m gonna say is back in 2019-2020 I watched gunbois stream for hours on end whenever he streamed on twitch and gunboi is cool people and very talented as a producer. Pvlace always seemed shady as fuck.
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight kmao
Phallus.
Why am I watching this?
thanks for the quick version
Half way thru and I'm lost in this soap opera, so much irrelevant info from Pvlace.
Gunboi looks and sounds like a Hey Arnold character.
I always enjoyed ur vids but I wish I could get my time back for this one chief, props for watching an hour long vid
Bruh I watch this stuff then soon after a make a beat 😭😭😭
one day we will be good enough to get ripped ofd
@@dogma7346 bet on that
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Manually with a pen tool and smudge tool
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Big chin ass nigga
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Palace comes across as privileged bratty kid just trying to make as much money as he can honestly. Just has too many questionable moves around him not to make me think he's snakey especially going behind Sizzles back trying to sell 808 mafia merch in Europe.
Hey, you should de-ess your videos., 😂❤
What I learned from today’s program #1 PVlace got N🚫 gun boi!
So kids moral of the story, do not give your work to others unless you gave it a clear brand that it's yours. Make some lady with a hot voice say your name and layer it throughout the song and just never give away midi unless you are okay with them using it without crediting you. If you don't some lackluster producer will steal it and you'd be left to fight a social media bih fight like these two fools. They both are pathetically unprofessional.
bro 10:50 got me ROLLINNN
this pvlace pack is strong 🚬
tsk tsk tsk... dupin denny will never learn
Any updates on this?
The fact that palace is not being completely honest with his response is what really bothers me. All he had to do was admit to not putting him onto the credits, and owning to that mistake. Why make a 30 min long video tip toeing around that it’s a waist of everybody’s time
Why is the music industry imploding like this? If artists see no value in our music.. release acapellas and keep it pushin. Otherwise stop stealing from people and share the publishing and royalties. Why are these fools fighting over scraps? They are acting super unprofessional and should have come to an agreement up front. Now they looking like some teenage school girls.
Going off on a tangent, a dead give away of a liar. I don't hear arguments to disprove the claims of being caught a thief multiple times. Even if he could claim he co-produced the song he will still look bad, like why Gunboi is not credited and why isn't he receiving money too from the tracks.
He probably told his manager "That beat he stole from me slaps." Then he got shook. If you make music w/somebody they get credit, and percentages of the publishing; or bought out later by negotiation for their co-ownership. You shouldn't have to catch somebody not doing that to get that done. All that extra emotional history has nothing to do with no credit and/or not paying for beats they collaborate on. It's different if you are paying a session musician, but I don't think that was their arrangement. And those people make money before the recording process. Also, Germans should stay the hell out of rap.
Lezgoooooo
But it was important to explain how they came toghether and that its not straight up stealing its a bit more complicated than that.
for sure seems like pvlace snaked him bring up your history is a sly move to get emotional credit making it look like gunboi is just freaking out
Your officially a journalist now =)
Did you get a haircut?
Omg
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i don't know why palace has to steal beats to be a platinum producer, i just woke up platinum one day without any music theory, i used unison drum monkey for my drums, unison midi chord pack and a.i. melody creator for my melodies, then dropped some unison sound doctor on my sounds, and blam, i woke up platinum the next day without any music production experience.
everyone put a clown emoji in the comments so he thinks he go botted.
Shit I misread this. Yeah do it 😂
They both wack!
Wait what mic is so expensive that they do 50/50 splits ? I thought they made 500k at least when you count there money as one 😂 bro they broke af
lol what?
Clown emoji
nice freakshow
🤡
Hahahahahaha I hadda do it
this is what happens when u produce on FL studio. the more u know
When culture appropriation goes wrong.
EXACTLY !!!! Sick of this shit man.
So basically two friends got into disagreement because of money. throwing each other under the bus. Fame got to both of them and didn’t wanted to share anymore. It’s sad they trashed their friendship over money and fame. Now they both have nothing in the end.
Naw basically a white boy stole from a black boy and took all the credit for himself and the white boy did everything he could to discredit the black boy he stole from in the 1st place but all that did was make the white boy look more like the 👿 he truly is.. Basically history repeating himself.
What? Neither of them have nothing. Pvlace's reputation has taken a hit, but if anything this only gives more spotlight to both of them.
And why are you talking like it's equally much both their faults when almost all of the blame very clearly lies on Pvlace?
@@Aywusgod Because @Darkness is an idiot. He clearly doesn't have the mental capacity to understand this situation.
@@Aywusgod He's talking like its equal blame because he fell for Pvlace's emotional manipulation piece. Looks like it worked on someone after all! LMAO
Gumboi didn’t have his business together.
What does that have to do with Palace stealing from him? Propaganda page
pvlace didn’t have his own loops together
he still shouldn't have been taken advantage of some people just don't have any morals or integrity.
Been eagerly awaiting your take