Interesting. KOM use a generic rocker for their more basic model. In the UK you can buy them under the "Lifeline" CRC/ Wiggle own brand name. That means the KOM upgrade kit should fit the Lifeline model too. It also opens up another possibility but I won't go into that... Great video as always.👍
I just received the RPV1 along with their upgrade kit to turn it into an RPV2, but unfortunately there are no instructions telling me what to do to connect the two together to make the conversion, lol. I keep seeing mention of a "copyright infringement" if hey provide instructions. So with no instructions supplied, what is the purchaser who has never used a rocker plate of any kind supposed to do?
Thanks for the great review as always. Do you know if this is compatible with Elite Direto style of trainer. Have you had success mounting this type of trainer on the KOM RPV2? Thank you.
Thanks Tariq for posting. It seems for you that the fore/aft feature on the KOM was the gamechanger so to speak for rocker plates on an indoor trainer. Have you tried using a steer plate as well on the KOM as well? Also wondering after using the KOM a while now, how did you change or modify your side-to-side riding motion to simulate actual riding outdoors? You had mentioned in your KOMV1 video that the side to side motion on the rocker is actually opposite to what happens in real riding.
Definitely the small fore/aft movement alongside the rocking motion is what makes this worth it for me. As for modifying my riding, it comes down to getting the upper body involved when getting out of the saddle. We tend to relax the upper body more on the trainer since the bike trainer is holding the bike for you.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Will the KOMV2 be staying under your indoor trainer for the foreseeable future? You were definitely on the fence about the KOMV1 sticking around : ) after your initial review. Keep the excellent quality & practical videos coming. I discovered your channel & really enjoying it!
Tariq - Other than the Saris MP-1 every other rocker plate uses inflatable balls for cushioning. Like bike tires, inflatable balls gradually lose their air pressure and have to be re-inflated. What is your experience in that regard? How often is it required and is it hard to get both sides equal in pressure/ balance? Thanks for your opinions.
You do have to inflate them from time to time and I heard they can pop as well. That never happened to me through. But you will probably need to check pressure once every other week or so. As for balance, once you get it right the first few times you will know what works. Usually, I add 3-4 pumps when I feel like they need to be inflated. The left ball usually need one more pump than the right.
They no longer sell the full ROV2 however they do sell a DIY kit for $450 but they are all out of stock. I would go with the MP1 platform as it is better made and provides a better fore/aft movement. amzn.to/3RB5oJU
I haven’t seen any evidence of power loss. If anything, it’s been mostly power gains. Testing for power changes is difficult due to the many uncontrollable variables making it almost impossible to get good data.
@@SmartBikeTrainers the problem with rocker plates is, as you also said in the past, to not mimic the correct side to side. Is the fore/aft movement helpful in that regard? Does it change the way one rocks the bike?
You state the Kickr Climb can be used on this rocker plate. Did you try that? I worry the setup might seem too unsteady on a Kickr Clmb. I like the indoor cycling experience significantly more on a rocker plate (mine is from a different company). I’d like this one with the forward movement, but it’s hard to justify a $800 expense to update my current setup.
You still have to pay attention to the way you rock the bike when out of the saddle just like with other rocket plates. The fore aft movement will add a lot more comfort to the ride than only having the side to side rocking.
I'm considering this for a kickr bike, which I've recently bought, having used InsideRide smart rollers for many years. I see in your video a couple clips of a kickr bike on this platform. Can you tell me the distance from the back of the rocker plate to the back of the kickr bike stabilizing arms (the contact point)?
I will have to put the bike back on the rocker plate to measure it. But the bike is about 48 inches in length and the rocker is 63” so there is plenty of space to move it forward or backwards. The is plenty of openings to use for the Velcro straps to hold the bike in place.
5:45 That middle layer was bouncing more than a breastfeeding tit on a morning jog... Bikes don't bounce that much and neither should the trainer... I don't understand why this replaces rollers? Just a gimmick everyone is jumping on because it's not evolution-ary in any way...
Interesting. KOM use a generic rocker for their more basic model. In the UK you can buy them under the "Lifeline" CRC/ Wiggle own brand name. That means the KOM upgrade kit should fit the Lifeline model too. It also opens up another possibility but I won't go into that...
Great video as always.👍
🤔 interesting. Don't ride long enough indoor to justify the purchase but seems really cool.
Is the RPV2 still for sale? I don't see it on their website or on Amazon.
I just received the RPV1 along with their upgrade kit to turn it into an RPV2, but unfortunately there are no instructions telling me what to do to connect the two together to make the conversion, lol. I keep seeing mention of a "copyright infringement" if hey provide instructions. So with no instructions supplied, what is the purchaser who has never used a rocker plate of any kind supposed to do?
Thanks for the great review as always. Do you know if this is compatible with Elite Direto style of trainer. Have you had success mounting this type of trainer on the KOM RPV2? Thank you.
I didn’t try it with a Direto but I can’t think of why it wouldn’t fit. I would send KOM an email and they should be able to verify that for you.
can you use metric dimensions ?? specifying the dimensions of the equipment
162.56cm in length 87.63cm in width. And 29.21cm in width in the narrowest front area.
Thanks Tariq for posting. It seems for you that the fore/aft feature on the KOM was the gamechanger so to speak for rocker plates on an indoor trainer. Have you tried using a steer plate as well on the KOM as well? Also wondering after using the KOM a while now, how did you change or modify your side-to-side riding motion to simulate actual riding outdoors? You had mentioned in your KOMV1 video that the side to side motion on the rocker is actually opposite to what happens in real riding.
Definitely the small fore/aft movement alongside the rocking motion is what makes this worth it for me. As for modifying my riding, it comes down to getting the upper body involved when getting out of the saddle. We tend to relax the upper body more on the trainer since the bike trainer is holding the bike for you.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Will the KOMV2 be staying under your indoor trainer for the foreseeable future? You were definitely on the fence about the KOMV1 sticking around : ) after your initial review. Keep the excellent quality & practical videos coming. I discovered your channel & really enjoying it!
Things in my workout rooms keep moving to make room for new products but the RPV2 will stay there until I have to move things around again 😂
@@SmartBikeTrainers Like any obsessive-compulsive athlete, you can't let dust settle on your work-out stuff!
Tariq - Other than the Saris MP-1 every other rocker plate uses inflatable balls for cushioning. Like bike tires, inflatable balls gradually lose their air pressure and have to be re-inflated. What is your experience in that regard? How often is it required and is it hard to get both sides equal in pressure/ balance? Thanks for your opinions.
You do have to inflate them from time to time and I heard they can pop as well. That never happened to me through.
But you will probably need to check pressure once every other week or so. As for balance, once you get it right the first few times you will know what works. Usually, I add 3-4 pumps when I feel like they need to be inflated. The left ball usually need one more pump than the right.
Tariq, I'm two years behind. It seems like the RPV2 is no longer available. I don't see it on the KOM website or Amazon. Patent issues?
They no longer sell the full ROV2 however they do sell a DIY kit for $450 but they are all out of stock. I would go with the MP1 platform as it is better made and provides a better fore/aft movement.
amzn.to/3RB5oJU
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thanks, I appreciate your reviews.
Do you recommend using a bike that has thru-axle with the rocker plate?
That shouldn’t be an issue and should work the same.
Hard question: what about power losses?
Some say it's inevitable. Some say it's the opposite. What about a video testing for that? Thanks
I haven’t seen any evidence of power loss. If anything, it’s been mostly power gains. Testing for power changes is difficult due to the many uncontrollable variables making it almost impossible to get good data.
@@SmartBikeTrainers the problem with rocker plates is, as you also said in the past, to not mimic the correct side to side. Is the fore/aft movement helpful in that regard? Does it change the way one rocks the bike?
You state the Kickr Climb can be used on this rocker plate. Did you try that? I worry the setup might seem too unsteady on a Kickr Clmb.
I like the indoor cycling experience significantly more on a rocker plate (mine is from a different company). I’d like this one with the forward movement, but it’s hard to justify a $800 expense to update my current setup.
@@PedroPrego That's also the question I was going to ask...
You still have to pay attention to the way you rock the bike when out of the saddle just like with other rocket plates. The fore aft movement will add a lot more comfort to the ride than only having the side to side rocking.
Tariq, how does the ride feel compared to your Inside Ride e-motion rollers?
From a ride feel perspective, the InsideRide wins. This one is the second best thing.
hi Tariq, is it possible to use it with kicker climb? Thanks for your channel
Yes you can and it will fit but can be a little sketchy. Just make sure everything is tight.
have you tried it with the kickr climb? would u need to clamp it or something? could u maybe a demo video of this in action?
Yes you can use it with the KICKR Climb. As long as your KICKR is secured enough you should be fine.
I'm considering this for a kickr bike, which I've recently bought, having used InsideRide smart rollers for many years. I see in your video a couple clips of a kickr bike on this platform. Can you tell me the distance from the back of the rocker plate to the back of the kickr bike stabilizing arms (the contact point)?
I will have to put the bike back on the rocker plate to measure it. But the bike is about 48 inches in length and the rocker is 63” so there is plenty of space to move it forward or backwards. The is plenty of openings to use for the Velcro straps to hold the bike in place.
The Sterzo looks backwards..
Hollyycow 800usd$ 🤣
800 usd Jesus Christ 😢😢
5:45 That middle layer was bouncing more than a breastfeeding tit on a morning jog... Bikes don't bounce that much and neither should the trainer...
I don't understand why this replaces rollers? Just a gimmick everyone is jumping on because it's not evolution-ary in any way...