F-35A (Lightning II) in Australian Service
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Correction: "Williamstown" at the start should be Williamtown.
I always make that mistake!
@@corvanphoenix Yeah, 'Williamstown' is where the 'Fish Heads' and their 'Boats' live!!!!!!
Creditability Check now for the rest of the video!!!
Yep and we have Broadmeadow, not Broadmeadows in NSW.
@raafdocumentaries I was wondering, thanks.
Pretty sure I saw them taking off about two weeks ago there.
@@raafdocumentaries It's near Newcastle, NSW
The late 80s/90s vibe in this video is strong
Yes! It reminds me of the corporate videos I produced in those years ;) Not that I mind.
@@asjeot the synth music slaps
@@asjeot yeah I was thinking is seemed lile an old documentary or something. Somehow both more relaxing and more serious.
Proud of our Air Force. We are very advanced and do well to take care of an entire continent. The Fighter Jets, Growlers, Poseidon, The Wedgetail, Triton, Hornets are world class.
Too bad Australia turned down the B-21
And yet a fishing boat can breach our borders unnoticed 😂😂
@@deanriley5690 yes even though we have a lot of potential power we never seem to use it. I have similar concerns about our Antarctic claims being disregarded… 5.9 million square kilometres. 42% of Antarctica. Suppose we need more planes ✈️
Fighter Jets, Growlers, Poseidon, The Wedgetail, Triton, Hornets will be turned to radioactive ash in the next war my friend!
Yesterday's weapons will be irrelevant in any future war! Huge waste of money
Hopefully the GhostBat program will continue to support our human fighters.
Nice and informative video. Great achievement for Australian Air Force.
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Another Aussie Wings installment!
Would have been good to see Australia get F35B STOVL for the Canberra Class ships but the left hand didn't talk to the right hand. We have two large ships that can't take the F35B but the Spanish version can take harriers. The ADF messed up yet again. Be nice to have an Amphibious Fleet with some top cover. Have a look at how important it was during the Falklands War. Without the Harriers, the Brits may not have been able to take back the Falklands from Argentina. When is the ADF going to get it together? One cluster after another.
@mrbuckaroonie I’m a bit confused how you said the ADF messed up again, I don’t remember a time they ever got it right
@@trevorspeedy6333 🤣😂👍
The Canberra Class sits full of Australian Army gear including helicopters, which was the point of ordering them in the first place. Sure, that type of ship could be retasked to carry jets but not the two we have- the army already uses all the space they offer- so if it's judged that we do truly need to get back into the aircraft carrier business, it would want 2 more ships ordered for the purpose. Everybody loves to second-guess the military but they knew what they were doing.
The Canberra class LHDs are amphibious warships, not aircraft carriers. Even the last RAN carriers, the Melbourne and Sydney, the Sydney was more useful... Two small carriers aren't going to sink a Chinese naval task force... However two LHDs will support the Australian army very well throughout the South Pacific...
@@ronclark9724 Precisely.
Australia, hey mates, where going to need your help in the upcoming war, I know you guys are tough and will heed the call. God bless Australia and God bless America.
@JohnShields-xx1yk Ironically, you said this 23 years ago today, and that did not turn out well. Pass.
@@brandon27025 thanks anyway.
Nafo clown bots are starting to pray now 😂😂😂
@@JohnShields-xx1yk We'll be there mate ;)
@@srijanme Was that your wet dream last night? 🤣
These combined with the F-18's give Australia a lot of information power in the sky, and with the new upgrades supporting any sensor / any shooter gives a lot of long range options to australia
They already retired the F-18. Not that it would change the point.
@@herptek correct, but I think they're referring to the Super Hornets and Growlers that are still in active duty.
Against the Indonesian Muslims ?
@@michaelchang273 You are right and his point is valid.
@@herptek You're really up to date aren't you 😂😂
What a beautiful plane 🚀
It's a useless Dud my friend! They don't call it "Fat Amy" for nothing!
Its pilots will be on suicide missions! lt will not see the SU-57 coming!
Ideal fighter to Ace Combat 8. 15 years of F-15 in 2021.
2:44 - "The F35B is designed for short takeoff and vertical landing." (shows vertical takeoff)
We need at least 8 squadrons plus a significant upgrade of all eq in our tri service including a new branch on drones in all fields ( air / above water and below water ) . I hope the current F35a’s get the latest updates.
Precisely. We need MASSIVE fleets of drones in all fields.
@@ncc1701deee And who is going to pay for all this nonsense? Precisely!
and yet... I've always thought it looks more like a Tadpole then a Fighter
they borrowed the money to buy these because they are going to attempt to shoot the lender
We need to form a comprehensive defense strategy for our biggest trading partner
nice video
Needs to be all underground!
And now Australia is upgrading our F18s with stealth and upgrades creating a forth generation aircraft. All F35 contract have been cancelled
The only thing that's been cancelled is to take on any more than 72. We'll be getting upgrades, new munitions and such for the current fleet indefinitely. And I think you mean the Super Hornets are getting upgraded to "Gen 4.5" standard.
@@videowilliams "Gen 4.5" planes pilots will be on a suicide missions in yesterday's airplanes!
Their pilots will not even see an SU-57 coming!
The F-35, 21-years in development and still not ready for battle, is a huge expensive white elephant.
You were suckered!
Is not AUKUS ...its USUKA's
@@DennisMerwood It's too late at night for me to unpick all of the nonsense from your statements. But it's nice that you can LOL at your own fact-free propaganda. That's the main thing for a clearly leftist troll.
Does anyone know the exact number of the frames that can’t be upgraded.
It's RAAF Base Williamtown, not Williamstown - no "s".
2:26 Acarrier variant if your carrier is large enough to handle it :-)
The Canberra I think can handle it, if the Governemnt decides to use the ski jump.
@@IohannesCR Spain is doing it with their same type of ships. As I understand the Australia ships would need some changes to the decks and and other to be able to fly F35B's from them if Australia brought those in the future ??
@@IohannesCR The Deck would need replacing if it were to Use the F35-B variant due to the intense heat and pressure in VTOL. Spannish, Italian and Japanese versions of the Canberra have hardened desks. Also the ship isn't fitted out for aircraft so doinso would ccompromise its original purpose. They could buy up ex USMC Harriers instead if they didn't want to spend $15 Upgrading the deck.
With the advent of hypersonic missiles ALL surface vessels have been rendered useless.
The West has no defense against them.
Williamtown. Wiliamstown is in Victoria
Newcastle NSW buddy..look it up on google..it's literally sharing the same runways as planes at Newcastle airport.
So what should we name them? I’m thinking either “Fire-hawk” or “Wedge-Tail”. What do you think 🤔
They are called Lightning 2's, and our AWACS are called Wedgetails.
@@oldieman730 lighting 2 is from USA. many countries have renamed them for there service. My fav so far are the polish who called them winged hassers.
Burning Emu
Bogan
@@oldieman730 dang it
Williamstown what a laugh!
I wanna know how the f35s will work with Boeing Australia's mq28 which means the only timeline Australia has now is like the movie Stealth. God I love Jessica Biel she's hot af
Okay! They got fifth generation fighters, but is the US going to let Australia procure any sixth generation fighters?
Well will see in the future...
Fighter planes are going to have no purpose in the next war!
Our enemy's modern ground-to-air defense renders them useless
My personal, admittedly unqualified opinion?
The US is apparently updating the F22 Raptor.
Possibly a better Air Superiority aircraft? That is, a better dogfighter?
Maybe worth a look?
The US dept of defense have forbade the sale of the Raptor to any country. It will forever only be operated by the USA.
@@tonymarsh8436 congress in the US unfortunately have put a bill forward banning the sale of Raptors to any other country. Would be awesome if we could have gotten a couple of those.
@@kodez9667 I agree 100%.
Well, maybe the US will reconsider.
After all, US politics is in a state of flux atm.
Sanity may just return at some point in the future.
Fingers crossed
F22 cost of operation is massive. Way more than F35. Plus the factory that built it no longer exists. F35 outmatches it in every other multi role feature and that's what Australia contracted for. Multirole fighter. Like the F18 before it.
@@yakidin63 okay I'll believe you about that, cos, I can't prove you wrong.
And you may well be right.
Is the F35 a better overall aircraft.
Yep. I'll agree with that. Still an unqualified opinion, but yeah okay, I agree.
But the question remains, is there a place, a role for a small, elite Air Superiority aircraft in the Defense of Australia?
Is there?
Could an elite Squadron or two, make a significant difference to the conflict, close to home, while the enemy are fully stretched supply line wise?
Ok. I do not know the answer to this question. Not qualified to offer an opinion.
I still think it's a question worth asking.
Dont show the B variant (VTOL), i'm still super upset the RAAF only ordered the A (boring) variant. :(
It's not about boring and it's not about pleasing ur fancy
40 billion dollars doesn't buy much these days.
Considering the latest and future Chinese air craft carriers have 60+ strike fighters, the present Australian government may have made an error in not procuring another squadron of F35's
Considering we're a wealthy country and large country, will 1 training squadron and 2 combat squadrons of F35's be adequate?? ....attrition and maintenance down time will likely be a problem for the RAAF in a conflict. We certainly could of afford to purchase an extra F35 combat squadron and proceeded with the purchase of long range strike weapons ( we already have purchased Tomahawk LRASM, NSM/JSM and will be getting PrSM and HACM when they enter service, plus we just started collaborating with Japan on long range missiles).
Or did the Albanese government just hand ball the cost for a future F35 squadron to a future government?
Or will the RAAF replace it's Super Hornets and Growlers 1 to 1 with a future GCAP, FA XX or NGAD?
Hopefully we put in an order for the new F15
Who is Australia's enemy? Its best trading Partner! GMAFB
All these toys will be turned to radioactive ash if a shooting war starts in the Southern hemisphere.
Any use of long-range strike weapons, Tomahawk LRASM, NSM/JSM, PrSM and HACM's will guarantee that!
Let's get REAL folks. You are pissing away good money after bad!
Dreaming of wars like the past - future war will be NOTHING like that!
AI and pagers are proving that!
00:21 .....available to the foreign market...
Poor 2OCU, always the bridesmaid.
We'll have your back. Always.
A great investment.
💩💩💩💩💩Its pissing money down a rat hole. The plane is a flop!
A huge boondoggle
21-years in development and still not ready to fly in anger!
The Aussies got suckered. (just like the Submarine deal - Paul Keating is right!)
Is not AUKUS ...its USUKA's🤬🤬🤬
"Williamstown"
Yep, good catch! Should be Williamtown.
Southlands😜
In reality most of them are suffering from heavy corrosions.
lol. They still falling out of the sky?
That is one sinuous jet fighter.
You forgot to mention the F-35 we crashed on take off in the US...while picking it up
That was an EA-18G
@@unfurling3129
My mistake I thought it was one of the F-35 fighters.
Be interesting to see if this subsonic SR-72 is reality
That wasn't an F-35 crash, it was an EA-18G engine fire. The pilots landed it successfully but the fire was judged to have turned it into a write-off.
With the Navy having the Adelaide Class Amphibious ships why did the ADF not get at least 1 squadron of B models ? Not very well thought out. 🤦
Because a LHD provides more bang for the bucks than a small carrier which will be outmatched by any Chinese naval task force... Even with the previous RAN carriers the Sydney proved to be more useful than the Melbourne...
what 40000$ per hour to operate?
Its because we are able to deter others through a strong defence force we are able to have Medicare.
It’s because we sell massive amounts of iron ore, coal and offer education to internationals we can afford Medicare.
@@embracedmadness That how is paid for not why we are able to have it.
@@RaspberryPi-u7j China has public healthcare too if that’s what you’re worried about.
@@embracedmadness Do the million Uyghurs in detention get that too.
Can this thing actually get to Indonesia and back. If not its no deterent to our closest threat.
Is an Indonesian threatening you?
No it can’t and it can’t carry anything useful anyway
You have tankers, right? That's exactly what they're for.
@@Orbital_Inclination and that in itself is a problem, you need extra resources, extra time for IFR, Protection for the tanker
@@trevorspeedy6333 also don't need to get close to Indonesia if you have atand-off weapons to deploy and don't put the aircraft in harms way
can we get corrupt politicians arrested and better education for AUSSIE kids please
cheers
All the millions that could of been spent on building more housing
Thanks commie. Try cancelling that ndis rort and you’d have a whole city of houso housing
I wonder why we need all of these houses. 🤔
A lot of bots in the comments I think with a lot of old talking points. But I do dislike the narrator say "two thousand seventeen" and not "two thousand 'n' seventeen". Don't let the yanks win, narrator!
Likewise, "laboratory" mispronounced as "labratory".
Why are you buying Yank planes, daemon?
Haven't the Yanks already beat you? Suckered you into buying their junk!
Bots incoming
Fyi $30,000 to $60,000AUD an hour to fly, noisy and already superseded
Should have gone for the F-35C, bigger wing area.
Bigger wings doesn't equal a better fighter
The world's most advanced stealth fighter.... But can only hold 2 small missiles. And the B and C version has no cannon 😂
@@MrMichaelSir why would you add the weight of a cannon and it's rounds when an AIM9-X is capable of 360deg engagements?
it can carry 4 in its internal bays, but they are being upgraded to 6, i.e the same number as the f16, and thats only in the internal bays. with external pylons, it can carry at least 6 more (totaling 12). Maybe do literally any research before making snide remarks about something you know nothing about...
@@merseyless Best to be safe if you can afford it 🤷🏻♂
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Why do we need this? When was the last time Australia fought in a winning war? Maybe, just maybe this is a waste of money because you fail at your jobs.
Is it eight hours maintenance for every hour in flight? Or just four?
How many actually fly reliably?
How will we maintain them once the American Empire gets contained by Russia and China? It will happen.
Same could be said for the Hornets, Wedgetail, Poseidon, Aegis, Nuclear Subs....Lets just give up now and save ourselves some money. Maybe we can become communists?
"Is it eight hours maintenance for every hour in flight? Or just four?"
Depends on the availability of parts and what the Aussies are doing with the plane. No aircraft ever made flies more hours than it spends in maintenance on the ground.
"How many actually fly reliably?"
Depends on the availability of parts and what the Aussies are doing with the plane. There's not a single military aircraft in existence with an availability rate higher than 80%, not even the Russians. 70% is rare and usually a sign of a mature, older platform and 50% is the norm for an aircraft that is new to the maintenance crew.
"How will we maintain them once the American Empire gets contained by Russia and China? It will happen"
lol, keep believing that there is an American Empire. No one listens to America unless they need something from us. If anything, the world is playing America like a fiddle.
Also there will be no containment without nuclear fallout. Unlike Russia, we don't saber rattle our nuclear capabilities and unlike China, we will not hesitate to use nukes if NBCs are used against us.
Enjoy!
@@gregorythompson5826
Aussies got duped by the Yanks and Limeys !
Swallowed the lie of their "China Threat" propagandas !
Islam waving across from Indonesia 🤦🏼
@@jdo8405
Actually... it's the Anglo-Saxon Empire .
That's got co-opted by the Israeli Zionists.
@@jdo8405they don’t want us until it’s “b..but they’re sanctioning us and we need their products” or “w..we need your military aid”
Imagine spending all that money for Medicare!
Tell us you don't understand defence without telling us you don't understand defence.
We need defence or there will be no Medicare. Additionally health is a state responsibility as detailed in the constitution. Defence is a federal responsibility, one that the current labor govt is damaging greatly. But then everything they touch becomes damaged.
We spend more on Medicare. Our biggest expense in budget if welfare services
" War is a racket " as exposed by the American patriot Gen. Smedley D. Butler
We already do. Australia is wealthy.
Since when did Australians take on the idiotic American habit of say 2005 as "two thousand five".
It's two thousand AND five.
@@tigerpjm I'm Australian and have said it the American way for a couple of decades, because its a much more efficient and therefore superior way of wording it!
This is good , probably western and Israelis upgrades now surpass older Chinese stolen versions!
@@varghessmith2985 highly doubt it
@@JBr-pk7wu why?
Fake news and Disinformation from the Yanks about their faux "stolen/hacked blueprints" of the F-22/35 !
Yeah.... just don’t go flying them near thunder storms... right?
We need to develop our own defence industry and make these things for ourselves and perhaps export a few too. But nooooo..... can’t have manufacturing in Australia, nor strategic logic in our long term defence planning
Our defence industry came up with the MQ-28 Ghost Bat to support our 5th Gen F-35 fighters. Read up on the state of things before being a super-rooster.
@@HenryKlausEsq. yes a step in the right direction but really look at south korea and look at turkey heck look at iran for countries that have robust industries that can really mass produce weapons for defense. his point is still valid.
@@marsmotion In terms of stealth, sensors, electronic warfare and manned-unmanned teaming those platforms are a downgrade, even being designed and built AFTER the F-35. Australia is greasing its joints working on projects like the MQ-28 Ghost Bat which, to me, looks leading-edge.
@@marsmotion I have looked at those countries. South Korea, the tech leader, even blew it -- external weapons? Jesus Christ.
Slow, fat, small payload, short range and overpriced. It has a lot to do to prove it is worth it. To date it is an unproven dud.
@@paddlesmcbean2366 what are you on about. You’re about a decade out of date with this talking points
And one engine...
@@mytubehkjt just like a falcon 9 rocket. Ya point?
Literally longer ranged than the Hornets currently used, cheaper than a Hornet, and stealthier.
It is designed to gain not only air superiority in a highly contested airspace but also to have the ability to strike ground targets by remaining full stealth.Besides that it can conduct a sead/dead mission with its Advance EW platforms and can perform as a dedicated surveillance assets on the enemy territory.
Over priced, over complicated and over rated.
What experience and factual knowledge do you have for the assumptions?
@mehere8-32
Yes I agree, your comment is.
@@zorbakaput8537 why`?
This comment is overrated, and about a decade out of date
@@TheMelbourneladhaha are you being paid to defend this overhyped american jet
Oh you’re kidding, I thought the Australians had more sense than to buy this overpriced dud! It need four times the ground crew than any other modern fighter. Maintenance heavy, cost heavy, defect heavy! Small payload, small range!
@@BIBIWCICC nope pretty much all those criticisms are now out of date like 5 year or more. USA seems to be only one having slightly high maintenance issue is mostly due to them having to maintain a large range of aircraft. Countries just running the f35 have cheaper maintenance costs as focused on single aircraft. Costs are down now especially in latest blocks. Defects fixed ages ago. Payload is same or little more than our current FA18 depending on weapons and maintaining stealth ain’t issue. Range is more or less the same like 2% difference
@@TheMelbournelad
Why the hell Aus need stealth fighters to defend it's territory from the Indons !
@@TheMelbournelad 1600 for the Hornet and 1100 for the F35. That’s more than 2% difference dude, and the Hornet is carrying way more toys
@@trevorspeedy6333 well specs I saw had a difference of about 100-200 kilometres in range so sure not 2% more like 5. Whoops
I'm afraid our cousins have bought a lemon.
Multiple aircraft are not designed, they come from making the best out of the original platform.
The F4 was an interceptor/fighter, which subsequently proved useful as a strike out interdictor.
The Tornado was a strike aircraft that was useful as a fighter.
The F14 15 and 16 were all fighters that were adapted to the ground attack role.
The F/A 18 was the closest they've come to a designed multi role aircraft, but it lacks in the true interceptor role.
The F 35 is barely adequate at any of these areas, but has come about sure to the US government trying to go down the TFX path again, and whilst the F111 proved somewhat useful as an introduction, it was never a true fighter. The F35 is an attempt to mollify all the services, but isn't good enough to do any of the jobs well.
Just my opinion, but backed up by a lot of history, why else did Vought bring it the A7 and the F8, similar aircraft different roles.
F15 A and C are fighters, F15 E is called the strike eagle because it's been adapted to that role over time and is not in fighter squadrons.
Lemon, straight up, should be painted appropriately.
F-111 was never designed as an intercept fighter - it was a low level fighter-bomber. US variants were nuclear capable, Australia purchased the C model for conventional bombing.
@@RobertLewis-el9ub Oh yeah, then how did it derive from the TFX programme, i.e Tactical Fighter Experimental. It was capable of Mach 2.5 and has the designation F for Fighter. After it's initial failure as such, and McNamaras insistence it got built, it was adapted to the introduction for AKA fighter bomber. I love the F 111, it's one of my favourite planes, but it was a failure in it's initial design.
Oh yeah and the navy was supposed to have it for it's fleet defender, which it want good enough for.
Tornado was only used as a fighter as the UK had NO money for anything else and it was only good for stopping slow moving Russian bombers over the North sea and the F111 was not for a fighter aircraft at all.
@@RJM1011 Yeah. Check your facts sir. They had a special anti runway pod which dropped ICM on the runway. That was the Tornado IDS variant, they also had the F3 which they used because they were low on cash as well
bugger they are already out of date.
By what ? The NGAD? That’s a different beast
"they are already out of date" vs what? If you have an answer, it's wrong. Technologically it outclasses the F-22.
Look into block 4 upgrades. Best fighter to ever enter service.
@@TheMelbournelad computer reliant!
@@HenryKlausEsq. computer reliant!
Indians will show how to fly a 5th. Gen fighter aircraft.....see u soon against sukhoi 57 MKI
It's crap. What a waste of tax payers money.
Then why are all the most advanced countries of the world buying them, they must know something you don't hey
@@paulmathews4335 Their politicians are bribed to buy them
Until the Russian invasion of Ukraine America and a hard time getting European allies to spend 2 percent GNP on defense the stated NATO goal... Apparently nearly all are today, I wonder why? Could it be because the Russian bear is hungry and on the move?
@@ronclark9724if you think spending money on defence instead of on education and healthcare and directly funding terrorists such as Taliban and ISIS is a good thing then you definitely need to get yourself admitted to Fentanyl rehab.
As an Australian l am sad how Australia has become a US colony
The F35 is a bucket of bolts a shitbox