Great couple of vids. I can only come at this from a military perspective. Obviously after every range day we cleaned the rifle. And normally the last day of every working week we cleaned them when we was not on active duty. Reason for that was we was told the weapons would sweat in the armoury so needed to be cleaned regular to stop pitting. Now your always going to get carbon build up between the rifling, which eventually will basically give you a smooth bore as the rifling is not doing its job. And although copper is weaker than steel its still going to cause wear to the rifling, hence at some point the barrel will have to be changed. We were taught to always strip the rifle so you have the upper and lower. Clean the trigger group with a flannelette and a brush and then lube. Then you would clean your barrel from the muzzle end. Get your copper or brass wired barrel brush and push it down the barrel from the muzzle then bring it back in steps back and forth until you get back to the muzzle. Look down the barrel and you should then see all the fowling it has pulled up. Then we would get our breech brush and clean around the breach and splines and the throat. Then pull through with flannelette from breach to muzzle a couple of times until the flannelette was clean. Then use a lightly oiled piece of flannelette from breach to muzzle to preserve the barrel. Then from there clean your bolt carrier group. Obviously if your using a gun with gas parts clean the gas block before you start the barrel. That's how I was taught to do it from my instructor, and that's how I did it there after. Never used any kind of chemical other than oil whilst in the military.
I clean after a range session, sometimes light clean during. So many variables and things to chase, load recipe, seating depths, neck tension, case wall thickness, plus all the things we can’t control (like weather). I might do a session with a known load recipe and see when the groups open up (or even if they do). Great videos brother!!
From my understanding the competition guys who clean every time they go out and shoot or who only fire a few shots then cleaning all comes down to consistency... meaning they know where that rifle shoot from completely clean to "X" amount of rounds. So they try to always keep that barrel in that window because of consistency and like you said they're trying to do everything they can to win. Extremely interesting series so far brother!!!
Personally the way I clean is I have the bore snakes I pull through. I put some bore cleaner on the tip, rem-oil just after then a few shots of aerokroil (aka kroil) to leave just a little on it. Then clean it off with a little rem-oil outside and wipe off the extra. I do this after I got shooting before putting them up in the safe. Which could be a day before going out to drill some hole at high speed or months or years. Been working for me right or wrong. Happy to learn some more
The first barrel I ever turned and chambered from a blank has a horrible throat. I didn’t know what I was doing, and made a mess of it. Ironically, it shoots pretty darn well at 100 yards. Haven’t tried further. Someone, maybe Boots Obermyer, once wrote that the most important part of a barrel is the last 6 inches, including the crown.
For me, I have gone to both extremes and in terms of my groups it was superfluous. Nowadays, I treat them as a machine which is what they are. I use a carbon solvent at the end of the day and put a very very light coat of oil over the bearing surfaces and rest of the gun.
I dont clean unless i have to. Usually when im breaking in, seasoning or smothing out the bore. Afterthat ill nit clean untill the barrel is beyond saving. My next rifle is going to be a screamer so time will tell how that behaves. Im targeting 3400fps with a 105 hptb 6mm.
Great info. As in the other aspects of life, people tend to talk themselves into trying to fix something that isn't broke. Thanks for your experience!
Yep, lol, Cheers
Great couple of vids. I can only come at this from a military perspective. Obviously after every range day we cleaned the rifle. And normally the last day of every working week we cleaned them when we was not on active duty. Reason for that was we was told the weapons would sweat in the armoury so needed to be cleaned regular to stop pitting.
Now your always going to get carbon build up between the rifling, which eventually will basically give you a smooth bore as the rifling is not doing its job. And although copper is weaker than steel its still going to cause wear to the rifling, hence at some point the barrel will have to be changed. We were taught to always strip the rifle so you have the upper and lower. Clean the trigger group with a flannelette and a brush and then lube. Then you would clean your barrel from the muzzle end. Get your copper or brass wired barrel brush and push it down the barrel from the muzzle then bring it back in steps back and forth until you get back to the muzzle. Look down the barrel and you should then see all the fowling it has pulled up. Then we would get our breech brush and clean around the breach and splines and the throat. Then pull through with flannelette from breach to muzzle a couple of times until the flannelette was clean. Then use a lightly oiled piece of flannelette from breach to muzzle to preserve the barrel. Then from there clean your bolt carrier group. Obviously if your using a gun with gas parts clean the gas block before you start the barrel. That's how I was taught to do it from my instructor, and that's how I did it there after. Never used any kind of chemical other than oil whilst in the military.
Cheers Man, thanks
I clean after a range session, sometimes light clean during. So many variables and things to chase, load recipe, seating depths, neck tension, case wall thickness, plus all the things we can’t control (like weather).
I might do a session with a known load recipe and see when the groups open up (or even if they do). Great videos brother!!
Cheers Man, thanks
From my understanding the competition guys who clean every time they go out and shoot or who only fire a few shots then cleaning all comes down to consistency... meaning they know where that rifle shoot from completely clean to "X" amount of rounds. So they try to always keep that barrel in that window because of consistency and like you said they're trying to do everything they can to win. Extremely interesting series so far brother!!!
Thanks Daniel, Cheers
A clean rifle always shoots different than a seasoned or dirty barrel. Always fire 3-5 rounds before relying on any clean barrel.
Thank you Mark. I tend to overthink things.
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My mate never cleans his farm gun ( standard ruger american ) and it shoots beautifully every time, like a fine wine gets better with age 😀
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Personally the way I clean is I have the bore snakes I pull through. I put some bore cleaner on the tip, rem-oil just after then a few shots of aerokroil (aka kroil) to leave just a little on it. Then clean it off with a little rem-oil outside and wipe off the extra. I do this after I got shooting before putting them up in the safe. Which could be a day before going out to drill some hole at high speed or months or years. Been working for me right or wrong. Happy to learn some more
Thanks Man, Cheers
Great job !thank you Sir 👍💯
Thanks again, Kut Kut, Cheers
The first barrel I ever turned and chambered from a blank has a horrible throat. I didn’t know what I was doing, and made a mess of it.
Ironically, it shoots pretty darn well at 100 yards. Haven’t tried further.
Someone, maybe Boots Obermyer, once wrote that the most important part of a barrel is the last 6 inches, including the crown.
Cheers
For me, I have gone to both extremes and in terms of my groups it was superfluous. Nowadays, I treat them as a machine which is what they are. I use a carbon solvent at the end of the day and put a very very light coat of oil over the bearing surfaces and rest of the gun.
Thanks Jeff
Hi Mark, you was talking about after market barrel. If I want to replace a barrel, where should I look for a midrange price?
Thanks.
Talk to your gunsmith, Cheers
I dont clean unless i have to. Usually when im breaking in, seasoning or smothing out the bore. Afterthat ill nit clean untill the barrel is beyond saving.
My next rifle is going to be a screamer so time will tell how that behaves. Im targeting 3400fps with a 105 hptb 6mm.
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First Comment, Well Cheers back to you!
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Old farmers sayings, "if the fence ain't broken, dont fix it"! Just saying...
Lol, Cheers
There's alot of monkey see monkey do & keeping up with the Jones' going on out there.
Yup, lol, Cheers
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