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I hate false accusations of sexual assault because it makes it exponentially harder for actual victims to come forward and press charges. It doesn't just harm the person falsely accused, but also everyone whose case is not believed because of that false accusation.
yes!!! as an actual victim of SA im not only furious but very triggered abt this situation. i hope woojin is ok and these people get what they deserve for this.
This is why “innocent till proven guilty” is the motto but with cancel culture , woojin has lost his career and smeared the name of his stray kids. The person who started it better be sued or jailed.
Yes!! And to anyone who continues to slander his name with ignorance, the man has had enough, step in his shoes for once! At the end of the day whether his antis like it or not, he’s also a victim of bullying and harassment. We will never know why he left until he’s ready to talk about it, so people should stop putting excuses into it when we really don’t know anything between him and skz :/
I went on twitter after watching the documentry and I saw people still hoping that he dies :( really made me upset. How low do you have to be to wish death upon someone who's the actual victim? No! You should never wish death upon someone. If you don't like that person then leave no one is holding you at gun point ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯
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I hate the fact that a false rumour from a random Twitter account ruined his whole life like seriously, he did not deserves this! I hope the person who did that understands what she or he did.
i dont think those two liar girls regret anything. when confronted they just pushed the bomb to each other's name and they did not get cancelled on twitter like how he did. hell, people don't even bother to find out their names when they are the real criminals. people think cyberbullying is a joke
A lot of strays latched on to it. As they wanted an excuse to hate on him. I like stray kids, but I don’t actively listen to them. Woojin was unknown to me. I got in to them after he left. But it was disturbing how this took over. Along with the bullying allegations. Part of it was they don’t know the real reason why he left stray kids & JYP. Unfortunately people used this as a way to fill in the gaps. So many strays refuse to believe that they was wrong about the sexual assault allegations. Some of them say “ so what, he’s still a bully”. So it wouldn’t matter what he did, they just hate him.
Its not only to Woojin, but the actual victim in real life as well. The disrespect that these bitches do to actual victim in real life by making this false accusations like as if it's a joke is unforgiven. I feel sorry to those victim who got offended by them
For Woojin’s documentary…does no one know what satire is??? There was never any sexual assault. Those people made it up…and as someone who has been sexually assaulted…nothing makes me more sick then people faking sexual assault to get someone “cancelled” because they are mad about them leaving a group. That is fucking disgusting
I said exactly the same thing, I feel the same, I can not understand how another girl could take such a traumatic event (for many people) and use it as a lie making the horrible actions seem like a joke... WTF, this is why there are credibility problems. Because some people can take advantage of such horrible actions and basically show their middle finger to all the victims and use this as a lie.
Both is so fucking disgusting. The people who made up the assault are awful (because that makes it so much harder for real actual victims to come forth) and the company who decided it was a great idea to make SA into a joke.
Basically what happened with woojin is a bunch of teens getting too much freedom to express their immature opinions in a matter they are not ready to talk about due to their ignorance
The disrespect that these bitches do to actual victim in real life by making this false accusations like as if it's a joke is unforgiven. I feel sorry to those victim who got offended by them
The title "finger killer" itself is already telling us about what woojin have gone through just because of that post. They might not even spend 5 mins in writing that but they ruined someone's life in a blink of an eye. I tried to stay neutral before coz i don't know woojin's personality and i just got my eyes on skz that time but now it's clear.
"I don't think that is legally viable but he is an asshole" is actually a very level-headed perspective. And I watch DKDKTV because of that. Too many polarising opinions nowadays.
Woojin’s documentary was filled with a lot of satire stuff, he was trying to prove something. People should be glad he stayed strong instead of leaving the industry or even leaving everything. I hate to see people make up SA rumors like that. To ruin someone’s career for fun and how they saw that using SA for fun isn’t good but aren’t they the ones that released those rumors as a joke?.. I wish people would stop making those kind of rumors, a lot of people have trauma from SH alone and making rumors like these will make it harder for them to come and speak out. 10x entertainment may be a new and small company but they handled things well, people were saying that they’re unprofessional but they handled it better than most company’s would. They did a lot of work to prove people wrong, he went through all of this and is still strong. 👏
The thing is, I remember when I saw everyone cancelling Woojin, and I thought he did something wrong, then I found out there was NO solid evidence. My friend literally stopped talking to me after I told her I am neutral in the situation and because I defended him, like his whole career was gone because groups of people who blindly believed information fed to them.
I feel like the main reason people were so quick to cancel Woojin was because Stays didn't like him to begin with. He was the least popular in the group. If it were any other member of Stray Kids they wouldn't have been so quick to jump on the cancel train.
Yes, I've felt this before he left. People never really cared about him while he was in it. I guess that was also a reason why he left, probably felt out of place with the rest of the members.
There's actually OT8 stans since the beginning. So its not a surprise to me anymore. They wanted Woojin to leave the group and blame him for SKZ not being recognized during earlier era. But when Woojin leave, they called him traitor. Now he's making debut, they are sending hate comments.
@@1to1official Why? It's so insane! Blaming him for not being recognized? Him? Not others? Not jyp? Why ppl hete him? He was the best vocalist. I was so sad when he left.
@@FlowerLotusThe visual, his matured visual doesnt fit other members (who look cute and more public appealing). I dont get their beauty standard tho, are they looking for singer or beauty peagant? No wonder so many singers and idols in SK underrated and m9st of them guess what, have a 'just okay' appearance 🙄 Most fans want him to leave, but once he left, the same person called him traitor for betraying the group. And when he debut, these antis still looking for him. I don't know if they are obsessed, crazy or what 🤷🏻♂️
I am not a fan of stray kids but I am really sad of what happened to Woojin. I felt it was so unfair. Stray kids fans just hated him because he left the group. Maybe there were reasons why he has to leave the group. I hope he can recover from this fiasco and get on well with his career. Goodluck....
Honestly when I heard the news he left StrayKids, I immediately thought it either might be due to family problems, or he wants to become a solo artist. After he left I never stalked him and I felt creeped out and became very uncomfortable when people started to stalk him and behave like this. Leave the man alone. If he doesn't want to be with someone (or a group in this case) let him be free and explore life. Sometimes I wonder what they want to gain after doing all of these stuff to someone who doesn't even know you?
@@frizzy2197 exactly. Family Matter was the first thing that came to my head. This poor man had gone through so much. And he gets break for just breathing like WTF??
@@yourlocalsha1782 if he was blacklisted, he wouldn’t be able to debut as a solo artist? In any company.. so I don’t think he was personally. He was definitely blacklisted by dumbass fans fueled by disgusting false rumors tho.
Not to also mention, there were plenty of serious articles, interviews, videos, compilations published months ago to spread awareness of his innocence, but were they taken seriously? Nope. Now that the company is done with BS and responding sarcastically to HATERS with facts, people have a problem? But still ignore Woojin is the only real victim here and the Brazilian girls are the culprits.
ikr! when he was proven innocent of SA months ago people either ignored and never apologized or just went to say that they don't care if he didn't do SA just cuz of fake bullying vids about him. im so mad at those people
22:33 a big reason people still justify hating on him is “he promoted his solo debut in his apology” which is literally not the case at all but k-fans probably understood what he was trying to say because, ya know, they actually speak Korean unlike the idiots who believed a mistranslation…that’s probably one reason he doesn’t have nearly as many k-haters
finger killer..... was AMAZING i have never seen a company put out something like that to defend their artist im so happy for woojin and as a proud CUB i will continue to support and love woojin
If anyone is disgusted watching the 10x documentary then let me tell that's the reflection of the people who got on the bandwagon of hate to woojin. The whole documentary wasn't making a joke of Sexual assaults but was making a satire or mocking how ridiculously people got into the bandwagon of hate without realising how big of consequences those words would have but even when the situation was clarified seriously, people didn't take it seriously. People, very confidently, even made fun of how the company was "fake" and in reality it didn't exist. The documentary is basically letting people know that they were the ones who let this whole serious situation become a joke which it shouldn't have. People also let someone have a voice that that someone shouldn't have deserved bcoz these kinds of situations make it difficult for the actual victims to fight back. The doc is mocking the the people who got on the hate train but didn't care about the results or clarifications. And only now when they make this kind of "controversial" doc that people have even started paying attention to this situation again. Where was this attention when the situation was being clarified, when they were trying to release statements only to look like a joke and be made fun of. This whole situation, this whole documentary was let to happen by those same people who were constantly hating on woojin and the company in the first place. Don't come at them now and say it's disgusting bcoz it's a reflection of your own behaviour. They're showing you how "You" behaved. 🙄
Amen😌😌🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻preach these people are mostly kids who are incredibly immature and no nothing about these issues.....sometimes kids should just be quiet,sit small and remain neutral but no they want to ruin someones mental health by bashing him like that fucking kids🙄😒
Yeah, people should really watch the actually documentary before commenting that crap, and if they are still against it, then honestly they are the problem.
Some random men are attacking Yuna cause they think that she’s a FEMINIST?!? Are you serious?? Guys need to realise that women can do whatever they want and be feminists too!! I’m waiting for the day when many Korean celebs will publicly declare that they are indeed feminists.
I don’t want to say that beeing a feminist is bad, it‘s good but in korea these days there are many people who call themselves feminist but just hate on men i think this is a reason why feminism in Korea is seen as bad
Seungri 24th hearing Seungri : "The scale of the investigation was far beyond imagination. I experienced many instances of humiliation, and the coercive interrogation process with their aim of arrest made things really difficult, but I managed to endure it." Former BIGBANG member, SEUNGRI, took to the witness stand as defendant 9 months after the start of the military trial, and recounted his past experiences.
On June 30, Seungri testified at the stand during the 24t" hearing that commenced at the General Military Court of Ground Operations Command at Yongin, Gyeonggi Province. The hearing started at 9.30am and ended at around 9.30pm, with the inclusion of a scheduled lunch break, but due to the high volume of charges, the hearing was extended and ended next day in the afternoon. Seungri, who denied most of the charges, described the over 50 interrogations he experienced as "beyond his imagination" and recounted the 337 days/8088 hours as a painful memory.
Seungri faces 9 charges, including embezzlement, violation of food sanitation act, distributing obscene material (single photo of pornographic nature), prostitution (for self), prostitution mediation, habitual gambling, violation of foreign transactions act, and eliciting violence. He was charged in January last year, enlisted in March, and the trial began in September. Since the start of the trial, Seungri maintained his stance and denied most of the charges with the exception of the foreign transaction act.
Although Seungri looked wearied by the more than 12 hours of cross-examination from military prosecutors, defence attorney and judge, he formed a strong and clear defence throughout. He mentioned that he did not organize any prostitution mediation, and there is no motive for him to do so. Also, he emphasized that he did not partake in any illegal filming. With regards to the embezzlement charge due to the payment of lawyer consulting fees for Yuri Holdings' employee DJ using company funds, he explained that it was a decision made in the company's interest and not for himself. He also explained that a separate movement of funds that resulted in the other embezzlement charge was for brand usage rights.
While Seungri admitted to gambling at a hotel in Las Vegas, as it happened during the spare time he had, he denied the charge of habitual gambling. While he admitted to the violation of foreign transaction act, he clarified that he did not borrow the fund for himself but for the acquaintance who was with him and who also carried out the exchange. Regarding the charge of eliciting violence, he testified that he did not call any gangsters, and only knew about the appearance of gangsters during the interrogation process. During the cross-examination by his lawyer, Seungri confided about the interrogation process and circumstances of the trial. Specifically, he said, "The scale of the investigation was beyond my imagination, and I experienced many instances of humiliation", expressing the despair he had kept in him for a long period of time.
After the disclosure of allegations of violence taking place at Burning Sun Club, Seungri was first questioned by the police on 27 February 2019. On 14 March, Seungri's status was changed to that of a suspect, had 2 arrest warrants rejected, and was eventually indicted without detention on 30 January 2020. This was a span of almost a year or 337 days/8088 hours.
I am not even a stay but i feel so bad that people are still trying to nitpick on his words to cancel him just because they don't want to admit that they probably bullied an innocent person..People saying he should have just given an interview and not make that documentary..But let's be honest, everyone would still have bashed him .I saw so many people saying that he should just come back quietly , i was like why should he?? He deserves to get his name cleared. Even my moots on twitter are a bunch of hypocrites..They are ready to forgive the actual bullies but hate on woojin just because of twisted and fake stuffs.
If I was you, I wouldn't want to keep being moots with people like them. I never tried to hide the fact that I supported Woojin, I started with a thread from a neutral stance since September 10th, then I moved onto supporting him full on. Many moots and many people I really liked being friends with, blocked me, unfollowed me and told me horrible things, but still, I didn't mind to be honest, I was sure of my opinions and I'm not even thankful that I was right, I'm proud for sticking to the right side this whole time. Hope you're okay~ and have support on your side too, we all need someone to be there for us when everyone else is against us (: take care~
@@wooxuxi4662 aww thanks~ 🥺 it was difficult, but everything is more or less okay ig, we're enjoying so much content from Woojin and we're closer to his official debut each day that passes~ please stay safe too, and properly drink your water~! 💙✨
Good on 10x and the way they handled this. Whenever I see companies claim to be “looking into the situation” I can’t help but wonder how in depth they actually look. 10x dove head first and went FBI-mode to prove Woojin’s innocence along with the validity of their company. That’s a company truly sticking by their artist. Much respect. Tbh I think a good chunk of people felt pressured to choose a side because neutrality is touted as “part of the problem”. These instances should be handled with the utmost seriousness and care. Having made such a quick decision shows they don’t take it that seriously or understand the seriousness of it. I agree with the majority of these comments too, I think people really went in on him because they found him ugly. I wasn’t really a stay when all of this was going on and as an observer it was absolutely insane to witness.
I’m sorry, when you said korean media and knetz didn’t even know about woojin’s controversy, and that it was blown up by international fans, I can’t help but laugh. We blame knetz for SO much, and then this happens and it’s ALL on US 😳😂
Both were equally guilty, each contributed to this There's no point of anyone blaming the other, this behavior and toxicity needs to be acknowledged as false, throwing the blame on a certain side doesn't make the other innocent Toxicity exists everywhere :( 💔💔💔
No matter what you think about Woojin - and I think people have the right to feel however they want about him, his company, his documentary, etc - please leave him alone now. Please stop sending him hate. The dude's been through enough. As someone who refuses to support his career for my own reasons, I'll say: nobody deserves to go through what he did. I really, really hope that the accusers will be held accountable for ruining his life.
Exactly. Like feel how ya want. But don’t destroy someone’s lives because of hate. I wish so badly the person who started it gets charged with something and gets held RESPONSIBLE. They ruined his life and ruined lives for those who did actually get assaulted because now they won’t be believed as easily if it or anything actuallly happened.
@@shinelile2632 Nobody really knows why he left Stray Kids, and it's unlikely that we'll ever know. JYPE officially stated that he left due to "personal reasons," and that may be the only answer we'll ever get. This uncertainty is part of the reason why he's still getting hate, especially since people believe that certain things, like the abrupt timing of his departure and Chan alluding to him "betraying" the group, indicate that he may have been kicked out or at least left the group on bad terms.
I still think its funny when i read dkdk’s comment “i dont care seungri guilty or not”. You clearly dont care, if you cared or at least followed his case from the start til 25th trial you wouldnt make your assumption into youtube content
There was a time when one of these two men was super super excited to be a part of Seungri's video and to meet him in person... That's all that I'm saying...
honestly we (stays, cubs, or whatever fandom you're in) will never know the reason why woojin left both the group and company. From JYP's statement, it was because of personal issues. It will always stay personal until woojin feels ready to talk about. Whether it was due to a falling out of friendships or something, we shouldn't go dig into someone's reasoning when he isn't ready.
You never know, it could have been family issues or him having a legal problem with the company. I feel like there’s no need for him to the previous company to discuss further
@@kristin123a I agree and his current style looks way better than his former style when he was in stray Kidz. It kinda compliments his features overall and vibe.
@@kristin123a i agree he's doing contemporary dancing in his new comeback and the style and sound and everything is INCREDIBLY different from stray kids stuff.
False Accusation is not just "cancelling somebody". It is a prosecutable crime in most countries and so is aiding the perpetrator. It is disgusting how low the inhibition level to commit such crimes is due to the anonymity the internet provides. Woojin is the sole victim here! Everybody continuing to criticise him should be aware of that.
Woojin life getting ruined by tweets is exactly what happened to G-Dragon. So how did G-Dragon who held an art exhibit for the unjust killing of a black man, get the reputation of being a racist or who spread the lies that he did blackface? So idk if y'all know but G-Dragon has an mv called Coup detat, and in that mv he is dripping from head to toe in black goo, with white masks around him. It symbolises his darkness inside(depression and sadness from chasing dreams and failing) So many years ago before release of the mv, a black man Trayvon Martin was killed in America and in pics shared acterwards, he was seen wearing a hoodie. That's it. Now, 2013, GD was shooting for the Coup Detat mv, completely seperated from this far away in Korea. He was dripping in black water like thing for hours during shoot, he was shivering cold so he covered his head between shots. He looked weird, all dripping wet, so he posted a selfie for fun. That's when everything blew up. Fans started accusing him of making fun of Trayvon for no reason, and even doing blackface and spread the tweets and fake news everywhere. Immediately YGE released a statement the very next day, and cleared it was for a different mv, that they also had GD in all red and all black dripping material as well. But the damage was done. The fake news kept travelling, And to this day people call GD racist in Trayvon's name. What about the art exhibit then? Even after black fans murdered GD's reputation based on false narratives, he showed his human side again. He was holding an exhibit of his song lyrics, and has a 2008 song titled "I can't breathe". This song was released 6 years before Eric Garner's death. Eric Garner, another black man who was killed in racial hatred in America in 2014. But GD didn't know about it. So a few years later, this art exhibition was to be strictly surrounding GD, but one artist proposed that GD use this opportunity to raise awareness about black rights in Korea. We all know how racist Koreans are, and how judgemental. But GD took a stand for what was right and said okay , I'll dedicate one art piece to this cause which also needs attention. So the artist proposed they use a line from GD's song from 2008 , I can't breathe, and portray is so it comes to represent the last words of Eric, who died in 2014. GD was taken aback at the request but had to do what he could to help the cause of black rights, even in his own small way. And he dedicated the art piece to Eric, instead of himself. All this doesn't get covered by any fan or media. If breaks my heart when people falsely accuse GD that oh he did blackface bla bla when it's the complete opposite.
Wow! Thanks for the info! I’ve always seen people talking about GD doing blackface but never really looked into it. I guess it was just because of how much I love him and didn’t wanna believe it. (Kinda bad on my part but I’m owning it) Thanks for commenting this!!!!
@@YoongSeung I hope it's clear now. GD never did blackface. People share that selfie with such wild claims which ultimately only end up hurting sentiments of black people the- one thing GD would never accept.
@@LovelyKissess for real it breaks my heart so much. Specially Gd gets hated for absolutely bs reasons but many other idols have actually mocked people with intention and they aren't ever held accountable. Just GD is the punching bag
It's so funny how any crazy person could just go online and start hating on others making things up. Im Korean and all I can say is people really need to understand how dark Korean culture is.
Yup I was a crazy BTS army who wanted to go to Korea and live there for rest of my life but ... Ummm you know the more deeper I go the more dark it gets .... Perhaps every culture have a dark side and I do respect as it's just the shadow part of a system ....
It's not about one person or things that we see on k pop, what am talking about its the culture itself and how bad, disrespectful it is. Their is a huge difference in hate and facts and unfortunately it's really bad. I pray everyday that the new generation will change this habits and way of thinking.
I loved how y'all handled the Woojin case. Some people need to hear the truth non sugar coated. And Mina just needs to stay off of the internet and get a hobby
Those chats were quite disturbing. It shows that you really don't know these people and you get acquainted with an image, nothing more. The thing is, these guys who got exposed in this scandal may only be a drop in the bucket. There are probably so many others who believe their fame and money give them the right to objectify women but sadly we'll neve know.
you are right on. whether its fake or not, it is not an appropriate thing at all. it goes to show the image of idols we see in the media may not be the image they carry when off the camera. and that's is truly disappointing because we as fan believe they are as good as they show us.. they may seem like the sweetest everytime the camera is on but homophobic, sexist, rasict, etc when the cameras are off. I treat kpop idols the same way I treat American celebrity. the same way American celebrities can fuck up is the same way korean idols can fuck up. no matter how many concert i attend or videos I watch of them, I still don't know them nor do they know me as their fan. and I'm find with that. they support to the ones I like is all that is needed.
I just hope Jackson Wang never disappoints me when it comes to being kind to people. He is almost single handedly reminding me that men can be good. It would seriously be a huge blow for me.
Yes, right... but this chats was proved fakes on 2019 by the court. They are made by patchwork from different chats and Seungri wasn't involved at all. Dispatch already know it of course, but make money using a big name is always worth and people belive everything and then talk about it without see real trial things.
Thing is, had these chats actually been real, they would've come up in his trial. These latest 'chats' were copy/paste from the chats that were posted in 2019, and even those were falsified (which the media admitted to, later the very same year). The fact that they're re-posting these, only now even more edited to fit the narrative they're trying to put forth, is even more disturbing to me. One of the messages has been used in multiple different screenshots in various settings already. The exact same one.
I think those rumours about Woojin got big because the Stay fandom on Twitter is basically like 12-16 years olds who have no sense of logical and analytical reasoning 😬 I was on that Twitter scene for a couple of months. Realised I was way too old to be in there lmao
Yeah whenever I see silly fandom stuff nowadays I just sigh and think 'the kids are at it again'. I've had a lot of amazing mature interactions with various K-pop fans, including younger ones, but I also regularly get the 'im too old for this' vibe and just leave certain parts of the fandom alone.
I may be 16 but I feel so old within the engenes ....maybe it's because the fandoms I follow is pretty old or chill. I have never encountered such bad things being an Aroha or a tomoon,etc. But my God it literally boils my blood everytime I look at engenes, idk how they stir up so much shit it's literally mind boggling ಠ_ಠ being a pre-debut enegene I honestly feel disgusted from the start of iland till now the fandom is filled with so much shit (ب_ب)
Yes . They helped Woojin to stand up again . Not like that jypshit( fvck they never cared about their artist). I'm gonna support this company forever .
@@indiancarateume9980 fr! they couldn't even address the bullying scandal/accusation properly, i missed hyunjin so f*cking much when they acted like it was his fault???? 10x handled a shitty accusation about sexual assault 10x better ✨
KPoppies never cease to amaze me. Y’all are all mad about false allegations of SA against Woojin but gleefully participate in spreading false allegations against Seungri in regards to SA. Something he was never accused of. And it’s so very laughable that y’all think these two are a credible source of information when all they are doing is regurgitation of other gossip rags. And for them to excuse their misinformed campaign against Seungri on the fact Seungri has money? Ridiculously childish. Do rich people get away with all kinds of things? Sure they do, but that doesn’t automatically make someone with money guilty of crimes they didn’t commit? That excuse just reeks of jealousy and bias. And no the prosecution had no evidence against Seungri which is why the arrest warrants were never granted. They had police coerced and falsified witnesses statements, statements every single witness (over 30) recanted or denied saying during the trial testimony. Seungri bribed all of them on a soldier’s salary? Really? Even if he had access to his money he’d be effectively broke bribing over 30 witnesses, 160 policemen, 5 judges and god knows how many prosecutors. Are you all really that dimwitted or does it physically hurt you to admit you were wrong? That you participated in destroying someone’s reputation and life because the media needed clicks and money? Did any of you wait for all the facts? No you jumped on the guilty wagon from go. And these two are just salty because for whatever reason they are no longer allowed to associate with any YG artists, considering how fast they sold out BigBang and Seungri can anyone guess why? You know what the biggest disappointment out of all this is going to be? That Seungri isn’t likely to sue you back into oblivion where you belong. Out here making money on other people’s misery under the guise of “news” and you have the gall to claim moral high ground? Karma is real it may not strike today or tomorrow but it’s inevitable and harsh.
I wish he would sue them back into oblivion along with all these malicious comments. People are spreading lies and they never seem to even want to know the truth. They’ve already decided. Pathetic. It’s not hard to find the truth, the receipts are there, you just have to wade thru a quagmire of bullshit to get to it. This video included. Dispatch is a rag. This video is proof. 🍀
I am not a seungri fan so I don't know about his case, I especially came here for Woojin. I'm guessing you're referring to Danny and David and I hope you don't generalize. If you know that seungri is innocent then try to get people informed , because people won't investigate on their own or might get confused .like I said I don't support seungri but I wouldn't send hate and I hope that those who are lying get to face the consequences of their actions.
Idk how people cry sbs and dispatch is shit (which is true tho) yet they automatically believe chats that could have possibly been edited and it was true. And it’s not the first time dispatch anyway shows either out of context chats or just edited them
THANK YOU!!! Woojin has gone through the heaviest sht someone could go. First he got falsely accused of harassment, his previous fans believed those rumours in a blink of an eye because they already didn't like him and only "stand" him was because of the group he was in. His personal information was leaked, he received death threads, blackmailed, imagery with his face on it was being scratched, damaged and destroyed, being called p3do, ræpist, and all his interaction with his previous members were being overanalyze just to have a "reason" to keep hating on him. But is not like he could've ended his life, right? Because hating someone online is harmless and doesn't affect at all their mentality. 🐻
Its kinda funny how people have double standards here its all “ innocent until proven guilty” but not in Seungri’s case they declare him guilty from day one! And even accused him of charges even the police didn’t accuse him of because they mixed his case with JJY’s!
@@NisaK_BTSVT every woman who has ever met Seungri only has nice things to say about him. Please go get updated on his case through court documents instead of dumb UA-cam channels like this
I’ve been listening to kpop for more than 10 years and what constantly surprises me is how kpop fans just CANNOT have an unbiased, neutral, mature opinion. Or maybe cos fans spewing shit in the i ternet are the younger ones? Idk. It’s crazy how you all believe an article or what someone says so easily without thinking if there is more behind the story/claims, and you all jump ship so easily once there are evidence.
Ikr!!! And the fact that so many kpop fans were guilt tripping the people who were staying neutral by saying "you are supporting the offender by staying neutral", which was straight up bullshit.
This is how we know this people have npt being following SR case at all. The level of misinformation in their comments and responses... is wow! People should follow FRESH ILLUMI an ACTUAL KOREAN LAWYER who have followed SR case.
Further, follow (VLM)VIPlegalmonitors on youtube, twitter and Instagram. They are led by a team of lawyers who have been covering his case in details including LIVE lectures, and question and answer sessions. I am the former student of one of them. We studied his case in class from a legal perspective without any of these media bias.
@@wh5706 Adding to this: Read Business Mirror's Seungri articles. Very detailed, non biased, written by lawyer and explained in an easy way. Recent article is about his 24th and last hearing.
I think to determine a video as unprofessional you need to look at the CONTENTS of it. Sure it was comedic at times (even got a couple of laughs out of me) but they came with really solid evidence and research and proof, and the video was fairly lengthy and detailed. I think the tone was just so people, whether they like, hate, or just don't care about woojin or his situation, they'll be forced to see the evidence. It's eye catching and it's not boring at any moment, and it makes you pay attention to the evidence presented closely (besides if your only complaint about the documentary is the tone and not the actual evidence provided then I think it's done it's job tbh lmao)
I saw this on twitter when it was in the 'is this actually his solo debut promo video?' phase and agreed with the firestorm but as a documentary/debunking cover/promo using those accusation sentences makes sense and isn't disrespect
People literally threw WooJin out from the group, his whole dream career, his company and now that he is trying to survive once again without giving up they're again hating him just because at some point they're proven wrong. And Human can't accept that they're wrong.
There's actually OT8 stans since the beginning. They never acknowledge Woojin. Why? Just because he's ugly. So its not a surprise to me anymore. They wanted Woojin to leave the group and blame him for SKZ not being recognized during earlier era. But when Woojin leave, they called him traitor. Now he's making debut, they are sending hate comments.
@@saranaila5905 Then explain how they locked up the other people ACTUALLY involved so easily? Explain that if he's so guilty, why'd they have to lie to the media multiple times and fake chats? Why'd victims and witnesses defend him? Why'd no girl besides that mention him? Clearly, they can't link him to the situation whatsoever.
I’m proud that I didn’t believe the rumors. It hurts that some believed that rumors because he’s the lest famous member , if it was a famous member of stray kids all of the stays will stay in his side. ( I’m not talking about all stays)
They did well! This company is a real one. Not letting people dirtying their artist life and image!! Every company should protect their artist like that.
Ah yes because making a comedic documentary of SA is soooOoO much protecting and definitely okay. Both the company and the girls did that and it’s wrong in both cases. The company handled that documentary like trash making it seem like SA is a joke
@@yourlocalsha1782 it wasn't about sexual assault it was about cyberbullying. Also when they were putting out serious statements no one cared. They've spoken out before and been ignored so what else was there for them to do.
@@yourlocalsha1782 they released a serious statement before and yall didnt seem to care and just keep hating, even said the company was fake bla bla bla🤷♂️🤷♂️ and the documentary wasnt even about the SA itself, it was about the harassment and bullying he got. and don't you think you should also be mad at the fake accusers? they took a serious topic just to get someone they hate cancelled
@@yourlocalsha1782 did u watch the documentary? idk if we even watched the same one because in no way did they try to make light of SA. the purpose of the video was to show the struggle that the company and Woojin went through due to FALSE allegations. in this case, Woojin was the victim. he and the company, who suffered mentally, and likely physically, for months, have a right to speak up about the harassment they faced. no one is asking you to support Woojin, but to me it seems that you just want to find any reason to mock him. people were upset because they thought he was using the tweets in a teaser for his music video, but no, it turned out to be a teaser for this informative video. I applaud the company for all of the effort they put in to prove his innocence. if they want to cope with this frustrating, stressful, ridiculous situation in a more lighthearted manner, as victims, they have the right to do so. the focus of this video was the cyberbullying and how the company dealt with it, not SA. the people who created the false allegations are really the ones treating SA as a joke.
About your woojin section, *someone had to say it* good for you guys for speaking your truth and letting your voice do good for the poor guy. I applaud this DKDKTV, way to go!
I feel like 10x entertainment made the documentary that way because they wanted a different approach. If it was emotional people might say it's fake and an attempt to make them sympathize with Woojin and make him look good or angelic . They wanted it to be humorous and lighthearted to be relatable and easy to understand. They never mocked SA or the victims, they mocked those who hated on him and started this for no apparent reason and hated Woojin just because. They provided proof and mocked the ill and poor attempt of the slanderers and those who followed the hate train like blind sheep .They know they can't please everyone but they did their best. No matter what , people will focus on what they don't like rather than what is presented, if they literally asked everyone what they wanted to see, they'll still be people who are upset about smth, so people should look at the documentary objectively and focus on the evidence and facts. I'm not saying this as a Cub (a fan of woojin) but it's just my non biased opinion. The guy moved on and is doing great on his own, he's looking much healthier and happier now and he grew so much as an artist , he himself mentioned that he was gonna start focusing on his fans and their love and support and overcome the past and all that hate ^^ he even mentioned how he thinks this needs to stop and that many artists besides himself suffer from such false accusations and rumors . There's literally no "valid" reason left for haters to hate on him and they're running out of excuses that they're helplessly tryna start new ones... Haters, please move on because this is obsessive behavior and seriously unhealthy, we're not asking you to support him but just let him be 🤦🏽♀️
Why i dont want these idiots are insulting at Seungri is bad I am very upset about the Burning Sun incident also what many netizens did this and I am knowing he is not involved the prostitution it was JJY did messed up I am reading the articles on Rappler but i am post the comment for protecting Seungri but i saw these toxic people are insulting at my comment so i am going reply back and block the trolls who disrespect at Seungri Its was the anti's fault for bullying at Seungri I am still cares about Seungri Reminding to everyone who needs to care about Seungri Stand Up and Educated it
Netizen : it's so gross what they did to Woojin. Nobody should be falsely accused. (I agree) Also Netizen: I dont care if it's true or not, Seungri is guilty, I dont care, dont talk to me about him, I already accused him guilty. Lol logic much?
Thank you so much for this transparent comments regarding Woojin’s situation. Really appreciate people who have broad and wide range of understanding. 🥺 Thanks for staying neutral. ❤️
I feel like the people who have a problem with Woojins documentary are the same people who jumped on the hate train and are now refusing to admit they were wrong, so they are still trying to make him the "bad guy."
I still wonder how stays live with themselves knowing they've done shit to Woojin who was a member of SKZ. Like sure go on with 8 members and have good success but like how did they flip on him so fastm
@@melissav2457 I remember seeing fans destroying merch, like crossing out his face, ripping out pages from photo books and burning them, painting photocards etc. And they did that JUST off rumors and allegations on twitter right when it happened, I wonder how they feel now lol.
@@aspannas I always wonder how they give double standard to woojin and hyunjin. Both innocent but got diff treatment. It didn't take long for stays to cancel wj and make nasty vids of him as bullying the members etc. But when it came to hyunjin they still defend and fight for him and collected every proof poss and still waiting for him....I'm glad hyunjin has loyal fans but I hope yall get wht I'm saying. Also ik the accusations were diff for both but I'm comparing the Fandom reaction
@@melissav2457 Yeah it's fucked up, kpop fandoms can be really insane and the korean society isn't very accepting of apologies and it's very easy to destroy people's lives and careers with lies. And there's so much hypocrisy as well in the fandoms.
We should listen to all accusations, take the appropriate steps to validate the information before forming opinions. Unfortunately people know that a lot of people on social media do not require proof. They do not require for the accusations to even make sense. They will see it and run with it. That is why it is a common way to ruin the career of someone you do not like.
And how in this world became equal to the accuser?? B4 anything gets confirmed your "victim" is just considered an accuser even if they're telling the truth
@@patriciogonzalez1898 being an accuser is not necessarily a bad thing like I accuse a bad person of doing bad or I accuse a good person of doing bad things. As long as I don't have evidence to backup my statements I m still an accuser when I give some evidence I should be believed and empathized as a victim should be
Glad for woojin. But I would say the talk about seungri was all about, ' I thinks' from your side. Your thoughts & beliefs are what is leading to a very biased research. Use the legal papers, the proofs Please. The things that aren't brought in court can never be considered facts. And please keep your opinions to yourself and share the public actual facts. And aslo, 'Innocent until proven guilty' HOPE YOU LEARN THAT.
Wow so u didnt follow SR's case at all. U sound insecure , like u desperatly want him to be the guy u imagined he is. Its kinda pathetic. I read every article from the court and there was no one who made me even DOUBT him. And im not even a fan , im a lawyer and I was interested in the case. What I see right now is that Korea wants him to be guilty and it doesnt matter if he is innocent cuz u will always say that he paid them off. Its doesnt matter that there were 132 policemrm who investigated etc. In fact , it seems like ur goverment WANTS him in jail. Never really expected that from a developed country, absolute disgrace
It's not a good look for their justice system, is it? It is a disgusting part of their culture to be in solidarity with hating someone, to side with the majority who hates than to side with the truth.
@@cat-uy2zl its seems like they have this agenda that a rich person must be hated just cuz they have money. Its toxic way of thinking and the fact that court ALLOWS media manipulations and investigation is led by public opinion is what I would never expect from a country that presents itself like a developed one. Im yet to see any evidence against him, the absolute JOKE of the prosecution (how the hell can u demand 5 years of prison when u did not present any evidence , MORE THAN THAT ur own witnesses testified against u). The amount of misinformation and the fact that korean society ate it like they waited for it is just rediculous.
@@sjsj9106 Amen! It seems like it boils down to jealousy. Never have I ever seen a society such as theirs where someone is pressured to do well in life but once they become successful, everyone is wishing for their downfall because to them the person had it easy. They want to make an example of a celebrity so as to show that nobody can escape the "law". The problem is that the law and protocols in place were never followed to begin with. Almost 3 years of wasting resources and time but they still got nothing. The police even read the messages between him and his lawyer, checked his expense records for the past 10 years and found nothing. They should have accepted that there was nothing worth pursuing but noooo. They fired the police officer who noticed something was off and voiced out that the investigation was going in the wrong direction. They don't want to accept that they made a mistake. Their careers are at stake so they had to make him guilty of something, anything they can pin on him. Now we have this witch-hunt.
@@cat-uy2zl its also funny how their society seems to think media is something they can totally trust and police&court r corupt if final verdict goes against public desires. The entire country just seems to ignore the fact that the media is the tool of the state (sorry for my eng btw)
Honestly I believe that people that fake sexual assault or rape claims deserve as much jail time as an actual rapist! That may sound harsh but you have to be a pretty messed up person to make up such a horrible accusation!
When do people realize that cyberbullying can ruin someone's entire life?! I really feel bad for woojin, his life fell apart right in front of his eyes and still get bullied online
I think Seungri's case is different. How the heck would you stay neutral when it turns out that he treats woman like shit. I'M NOT SAYING HE TAKES PART IN PROS****.
@@NisaK_BTSVT No woman ever accused him of treating them like shit. Stop acting as though social media speculations or manipulated chats have any worth in this conversation. They don't. It's hypocrisy to say withhold judgement and wait for facts and then turn around and believe every baseless rumour about the most witch hunted person in this industry.
@@NisaK_BTSVT If we are to belive in women, then we must believe in the fact no woman has come forward with any complaints against him criminal or otherwise. So, how is his case different? You are just speculating based on rumours. You can't change your rules to suit you from one person to another. Either all innocent until proven guilty or admit you don't believe in due process.
@@NisaK_BTSVT where is the woman who he treated like shit? Can you ask her to go forward to the prosecution coz all the victims they put forth said seungri is innocent
Good to know they freaking ignored all the information released from the past 24 hearings, it looks like they really intended to miss the opportunity to bring awareness to Seungri's case. I'm upset, I really was waiting for the two you to cover this case but... not like this, there is a lot of information out there about it; the witnesses' testimonies and even Seungri's own testimony and you still decided to go with these chats. I remember one of these two was even a fan of BB... I expected that he would dedicate some of his time to follow the case. Having a big channel like yours come with the responsability of being aware the influence you have on your audience, if this video is a prime example of your other videos I hope you can bring better and truthful content to your viewers.
The more anyone follows the case the more shady Seungri becomes. He is lying about the good giving girls phrase from the beginning and now these vulgar chats. He has confessed in court the phrase good giving girls -saying it was a typo, that proves the chats are real
@@NisaK_BTSVT I'm chill, upset but chill, did I sound too aggressive hahaha? I mean, the dispatch article they're discussing was published jul 2 while the last hearing was jun 30, they could have made a really interesting condensed summarize of the case, but nope... I guess, thank you for let me see I was getting really worked up haha that is the worst way to start arguing on the internet 😂 still, I do not like this video
@@hitergarb9187 I was really going to write you a long paragraph but I don't want to sound that intense. I see that you copied and pasted this same reply under other people's comments and people have already replied to you, hope you can reply them as well. Have a nice day
Mina just needs to take a step back and away from social media for a while. Some mental health counseling may be in order as well. It is beyond unfortunate that her being a victim of bullying is being overshadowed by this love triangle fiasco.
I agree she needs to get help and step away from sns, but there isn't proof she is a victim and people have debunked things she has blamed Jimin for as well. This cheating scandal isn't overshadowing the bullying one at all, it's only shedding more light to it since she admitted she lied about the father threating her, upon other things. People never got to hear Jimin's side, but now people are realizing that Mina has lied about multiple things and exaggerates, which comes off as her being emotionally manipulative with a victim mentality. Her mental illness should not be a shield to excuses her of this behavior and should be called out on it. Jimin only apologized for not being the best leader and left the industry, which doesn't equal her admitting to bullying. In fact, Jimin was never able to share her side because Mina was threating her life and is unstable, so anything that she said could push Mina over the edge. Jimin chose the moral thing to do and stayed quiet over her trying to clean her image. Until Mina becomes mentally heathy, i don't expect to hear from the other side.
I always gave Woojin the benefit of the doubt. Since there were allegations I was leery of him being “clean” but being that there was never any evidence I didn’t look too much into it. Especially since the random guys photo was stolen, it made it seem like that one was a false report from the get go. I’m glad that his name has been cleared and hopefully he can have a successful career as a soloist.
Saw a meme that kinda suits this channel : Reporting 101: If someone says it’s raining outside & another says it’s sunny & dry. It’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out the window and find out which is true. It’s fairly simple, right? Stop using tabloids as media sources for legal cases of a witch hunt.
That’s the way every company should react to any accusation against their idols. Thorough investigation and then prosecution of false accusers if they turn out to be so. Those people that throw baseless accusations harm not only the idols and their company that lots of peoples livelihoods depends on but also the real victims of harassment and bullying that will be put automatically in doubt category because of them. So well done to the company! Others should follow your example!
When will dkdktv stop mentioning seungri, and stop assuming things about seungri’s case and make it into youtube videos. Let me tell you, you aint judge, you aint prosecutor, and you aint lawyer. You’re just disgraced ex fan who’s lucky noticed by seungri but again you’re making assumption here.
You are right. The person got away too easily. It's about time these malicious people are held accountable. I don't know much about Woojin but any person's life should not be messed/ruined because someone's hate behind the keyboard. Lawyer them good with firm and open approach. 👏👏👏👏
Watching this makes me remember someone at the time said they didn't like the documentary bc it was "making fun" of people who believed the rumors. It still boggles my mind to think that someone who blindly believed rumors and didn't look at the facts thinks they should be coddled. If you get to make memes about woojin, then he can make memes about you, it's as simple as that. What goes around comes around
DKDKTV, Both of you have always been so opinionated and making speculations just to draw attention from the public. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS CHOOSE TO BE KIND, the person you are talking to is innocent unless proven guilty. Let the lawyers, prosecutors, investigators, policemen do their job. Thank you
Just got harassed on a discord yesterday for posting about Woojin's teaser by a moron citing EVERYTHING that was already cleared up and debunked ages ago. Yet all they could say was that the documentary was "cringey" but apparently skipped ALL the evidence inside it.
They don't have any right to complain when they themselves ignore all the serious warning 10X gives in the past and treat the company like a complete joke. 10X just return the favor and treat them like a joke while proving that they're wrong and they have the audacity to make a demand???
They don't have any right to complain when they themselves ignore all the serious warning 10X gives in the past and treat the company like a complete joke. 10X just return the favor and treat them like a joke while proving that they're wrong and they have the audacity to make a demand???
@@howardrouz4600 many years ago(over 10 now if my memory serves) Tablo was caught up in a scandal created by netzens and spread by media. Of all things it was about his degree. Even after he got statements from his University and show proof of his degree people refused to believe that a "mere kpop idol could be that smart". The flaw is reasoning was shocking what was worse was the threats to his safety and his family. He couldnt leave his home for weeks. Even today, he will speak of the trauma from that time. Acting upon rumours and popular beliefs is dangerous. Each person must consider what their actions might do if a person is innocent. For example if Seungri is innocent then every hater/anti/misinformation video and clickbait media have contributed to ruining the life of an innocent man and putting his innocent family through a nightmare. The reason we should act like civilized folks in because the possibility of innocence exists.
Western Kpop stans are becoming the worse version of Korean Kpop stans. They really wanna try to cancel anyone, and they also believe everything they see on Twitter and never investigate. Remember when people made those videos of Woojin out of context and trying to make him look a bully. Literally they are the real bullies.
Obviously not all of international fans and you know k fans have done even more shitty stuff like asking to remove chen from EXO for getting married or saesengs
@@Heyyllo do you even know how many fans actually turned up for the exo thing? It was honestly so hilarious bcoz it was like some 30-40 people. It's an extremely small population of the whole k-exo-ls that even the rest of the fandom laughed at them. 😅😂
@@Heyyllo western Stans were sending dead threats to Niki few weeks ago and wanted Niki to leave of group. Long time ago we made fun and criticized how crazy are Korean stans but nowadays The western fans are getting more toxic and harassing every idol they don’t like.
The problem is, people see kpop as a fantasy life and the perfect personality they are forced to have, gets some people addicted. They see idols as characters instead of human and begin to believe they are perfect. Big mistake. All humans have flaws and no one is perfect. People are so unhappy and depressed that they look for happiness in the wrong ways. And one of those wats are through kpop. People come here and treat kpop like their own controlled real life fantasy. Trying to create a perfect world through real human beings. It's easy to get disappointed when you're out of touch with reality. Kpop was created to be that way. Give young girls a perfect male idol to fantasies about and spend all of their time and money on. This is a very unhealthy place for those whos mind drifts. Woojin got all of this hate literally for nothing. Because he wasn't a part of many girls fantasy. He wasn't that "beautiful perfect" boyfriend they dreamt about so he got loads of hate for it. While Hyunjin got numerous of love and support for having a victim. Woojin had ex fans spreading every bit of hate towards him. No victims
The fact that some YG stans still have the freaking audacity to defend this man and be that senseless to say " knetz have always hated Yg artists and want to take advantage of his fame cause he is BB member and that the police is shitty". Yall seriously think the Korean police department and govt has nothing better to do than wait and spoil a Yg artist. Just cause yall jobless ur world revolves around kpop or yg doesn't mean the whole of SKs does.
Did you see the articles they’ve posted? All the witness confessed saying he didn’t do anything to them. Heck, even the police confessed and said that they were paid to say what they said. The guy that was behind all this doesn’t even want to show up to court that’s why they kept pushing the trial date back. BUT NO. People are still hating on him. He gave the court all his phones and his keys to his house and cars to proof his innocence but NO, people like you still hate on him. He even said it, he was in the group chat but he didn’t check all his messages all the time. I don’t even check my messages on snap, Instagram and Facebook so what the heck?! They even said there was other group chats in his phone and they weren’t checked after lying saying he replied to everything in his phone 🤦🏽♀️ Also, Korea has always hated YG. YG was always labeled the “bad influence” company because of their hip hop image. People misjudged them and said they were the carefree company just because of how they act ON STAGE or how they dress. Like tf 🙄 YG’s artist were always known for their performance but people think they should perform like other typical group and dance and all. 🤦🏽♀️ YG Entertainment is the only company that didn’t sign with CJ NM (which other companies like SM) did. YG’s artist were always used to cover up their government fuck ups.
@@yourstrulyygfamily7176 did u even see the chats of Seungri that were released which were disgusting as hell to which he blames his autocorrect which is the worst excuse u could come up with. No one cares if u don't check ur messages. This guy is business man with lots of responsibility in his hands and didn't have the brains to check what the gc was about?? Don't act like a stupid stan who thinks govt is as jobless as kpop fans to sit and hate Yg.
@@yourstrulyygfamily7176 Korea hates YG. Who tf u think made their artists such huge legends and success then? That company and the artists have fcked up many times and brought hate on itself. I don't have to say bout this Seungri ik. Their artists have done CA many times such as black face and dreads etc but not have the audacity himself or the company to apologize. Have said he doesn't ever wanna promote in Korea his hometown which would make the citizens very happy u guess?? SK is very conservative country and very diff from western or other ones. They love using cuss words in their songs which is no prob to me. Gambling is ig banned in SK and for their citizens even outside SK but they still did it. Godsake yall even think BI case is going on cause police love to torture Yg artists like get our of ur bubble dude, they have actually Jobs to fulfill than wait around to spoil Yg artists career.
@@inozvambaia9157 oh god seriously. He might not be guilty in everything he was charged of but doesn't mean he was a freaking innocent man just dragged here out of the blue right. I swear to God, these fans gotta think bout this case by putting aside that he was a BB and Yg artist cause they are brainwashed af
Yes!! Yes!!! So glad so many people starting to see the light about Woojin! Poor guy! I always pitied him over all the lies! So glad he has some vindication finally.
I think if woojin ever watched your videos he will be thankful to you guys...You people really did a good job back then, providing evidence for the company existence and true journalism. And Bravo to the company, for taking a firm stand for their artist.
21:10 Nobody is talking about those girls because the majority of them actually never cared about SA/victims in the first place. Since his departure, they've all been looking for a reason to hate him, and when they found one, they all cancelled him right away. If they genuinely cared, they would be blaming those girls for joking/lying on such a sensitive subject rather than bashing Woojin(for stupid reasons) who has been proven innocent months ago.
Could you PLEASE go over the Woojin Finger Killer documentary in another video??? Pls you have such a massive following and it would help a lot to rebuke those haters and antis that send death threats to Woojin.
You know actually I was a stay in that period, I didn’t attacked him personally of course and I think I kinda stayed neutral. That situation gave me so much stress plus I was seriously so sad from his departure from the group (and still don’t get how why he went out of the company, I don’t think that the members and him had a good relationship). I did believed all those rumors and I do regret it. I think he mainly got all that hate also due to the lack of information and the sudden of his departure, jype and his fault. The real criminal are all of those people who created such rumors. I’m still not gonna support him, mainly bc I associate him with that time and that state of mind, but that doesn’t mean I hate him or hate everyone who support him. I just wish everyone will respect every person decision and won’t attack them for choosing to support or not support him.
honestly I’m the same but.. opposite. It actually put me off stray kids a bit. I didn’t believe the rumours and was so stressed about all the other rumours stays were coming out with like “he abused and sexually assaulted felix and I.N” because I knew chan was seeing all that and thinking we were freaks. I still stan stray kids but I felt myself distancing myself from them because how insufferable their fans had become during that time😪
Same here tbh. It's been a crazy situation all around and it's caused a lot of people - Stays and Cubs especially - a lot of stress. It should've been handled so much better all around tbh
i stayed neutral to when the news first came out but the thing that made me dislike him was when he first addressed the allegations. he called these serious allegation as weird rumors and that left a bad taste in my mouth. that’s why even if the allegations are false i still personally wouldn’t support him because of how he handled the situation.
You know most of the stays didn't even hate him bec of that, they hate him of what he did to the members, y'all still remembered when skz cried bcs of him? Thinking they weren't enough and want to prove their selves even more? The levanter era when it's already planned on nov. But suddenly got move out on dec cuz he left and skz have to redo all of that? When Jisung Doesn't wanna make music anymore? Jisung hiatus because 2019 is too much for him? Levanter album redo and hi stay on london when in fact the albums are done? Skz2020 album that full of ot8 ver. And W being cutted off the thumbnails of their mv? Yeah the accusations of that twitter accs cannot be true but think about what he did to kids. Sometimes Woojin's fans can't see it cuz they think woojin left the group because of hate. We don't know anything but when the first vlive as ot8 you can see the sad on their face, the betrayal especially for Chan. For me he's still not innocent nit because of that accusations but for the kids and that's why Woojin stans shouldn't assume that all stays hates him because of that rumor. How about the stays who hates him because of broken promises and betrayal? Yep
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Woojin gave an interview to an Argentinian youtuber, he looks happier and ready for his comeback!
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@@DKDKTV I’m tryna get woojin fans to subscribe to your patreon cus I don’t have any money but I wanna see what this surprise is 😭
I hate false accusations of sexual assault because it makes it exponentially harder for actual victims to come forward and press charges. It doesn't just harm the person falsely accused, but also everyone whose case is not believed because of that false accusation.
say it louder!! and i will forever repeat this comment like I always does.
yes!!! as an actual victim of SA im not only furious but very triggered abt this situation. i hope woojin is ok and these people get what they deserve for this.
yes the whole Woojin situation is haert breaking as a victim of sa this made me cry I just hope Woojin is ok and hope the best for him
It's disgusting that someone would falsely accuse someone of sa. How sick in the head do you have to be? With no evidence!!
any accusation towards men is overblown n their careers are destroyed ,i feel so bad as i fell for it too
This is why “innocent till proven guilty” is the motto but with cancel culture , woojin has lost his career and smeared the name of his stray kids. The person who started it better be sued or jailed.
Yes!! And to anyone who continues to slander his name with ignorance, the man has had enough, step in his shoes for once! At the end of the day whether his antis like it or not, he’s also a victim of bullying and harassment. We will never know why he left until he’s ready to talk about it, so people should stop putting excuses into it when we really don’t know anything between him and skz :/
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Yes
Twitter fans are really hard into cancelling him
I went on twitter after watching the documentry and I saw people still hoping that he dies :( really made me upset. How low do you have to be to wish death upon someone who's the actual victim? No! You should never wish death upon someone. If you don't like that person then leave no one is holding you at gun point ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯
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Thank you for clarifying
Facts only! 👑
I hate the fact that a false rumour from a random Twitter account ruined his whole life like seriously, he did not deserves this! I hope the person who did that understands what she or he did.
That's exactly what they wanted ... They will never feel any remorse fr their sick behavior
i dont think those two liar girls regret anything. when confronted they just pushed the bomb to each other's name and they did not get cancelled on twitter like how he did. hell, people don't even bother to find out their names when they are the real criminals. people think cyberbullying is a joke
A lot of strays latched on to it. As they wanted an excuse to hate on him. I like stray kids, but I don’t actively listen to them. Woojin was unknown to me. I got in to them after he left. But it was disturbing how this took over. Along with the bullying allegations. Part of it was they don’t know the real reason why he left stray kids & JYP. Unfortunately people used this as a way to fill in the gaps.
So many strays refuse to believe that they was wrong about the sexual assault allegations. Some of them say “ so what, he’s still a bully”. So it wouldn’t matter what he did, they just hate him.
Its not only to Woojin, but the actual victim in real life as well. The disrespect that these bitches do to actual victim in real life by making this false accusations like as if it's a joke is unforgiven. I feel sorry to those victim who got offended by them
For Woojin’s documentary…does no one know what satire is??? There was never any sexual assault. Those people made it up…and as someone who has been sexually assaulted…nothing makes me more sick then people faking sexual assault to get someone “cancelled” because they are mad about them leaving a group. That is fucking disgusting
You are right I also I hate it it makes people not take the once who actually got assaulted seriously
exactly. like it makes actual victims harder for them to come out unfortunately
I said exactly the same thing, I feel the same, I can not understand how another girl could take such a traumatic event (for many people) and use it as a lie making the horrible actions seem like a joke... WTF, this is why there are credibility problems. Because some people can take advantage of such horrible actions and basically show their middle finger to all the victims and use this as a lie.
Both is so fucking disgusting. The people who made up the assault are awful (because that makes it so much harder for real actual victims to come forth) and the company who decided it was a great idea to make SA into a joke.
You’re right!
"Time to hajima" Imma use that everywhere now.
What does it mean?
@@alinz4454 hajima means stop
@@CYPH3RRR420 owh, I see, thank you
Me too! Also time to gajima.
@@ninjakitten2571 gajima mean dont go
Basically what happened with woojin is a bunch of teens getting too much freedom to express their immature opinions in a matter they are not ready to talk about due to their ignorance
Right
It's awful
Amen
Yes!! This is similar to what I posted....these you kiddos on sm kept this false story going....cancel culture is really starting to annoy me.
The disrespect that these bitches do to actual victim in real life by making this false accusations like as if it's a joke is unforgiven. I feel sorry to those victim who got offended by them
The title "finger killer" itself is already telling us about what woojin have gone through just because of that post. They might not even spend 5 mins in writing that but they ruined someone's life in a blink of an eye. I tried to stay neutral before coz i don't know woojin's personality and i just got my eyes on skz that time but now it's clear.
"I don't think that is legally viable but he is an asshole" is actually a very level-headed perspective. And I watch DKDKTV because of that. Too many polarising opinions nowadays.
Woojin’s documentary was filled with a lot of satire stuff, he was trying to prove something. People should be glad he stayed strong instead of leaving the industry or even leaving everything. I hate to see people make up SA rumors like that. To ruin someone’s career for fun and how they saw that using SA for fun isn’t good but aren’t they the ones that released those rumors as a joke?.. I wish people would stop making those kind of rumors, a lot of people have trauma from SH alone and making rumors like these will make it harder for them to come and speak out.
10x entertainment may be a new and small company but they handled things well, people were saying that they’re unprofessional but they handled it better than most company’s would. They did a lot of work to prove people wrong, he went through all of this and is still strong. 👏
The thing is, I remember when I saw everyone cancelling Woojin, and I thought he did something wrong, then I found out there was NO solid evidence. My friend literally stopped talking to me after I told her I am neutral in the situation and because I defended him, like his whole career was gone because groups of people who blindly believed information fed to them.
Probably for the best getting rid of those people
I feel like the main reason people were so quick to cancel Woojin was because Stays didn't like him to begin with. He was the least popular in the group. If it were any other member of Stray Kids they wouldn't have been so quick to jump on the cancel train.
Yes true
I was sad about it
You are so right about this
Yes, I've felt this before he left. People never really cared about him while he was in it. I guess that was also a reason why he left, probably felt out of place with the rest of the members.
Really? But why? He hasn't a good personality? Why they didn't like him?
The fact that people still doubt that Woojin is innocent when there's enough evidence just proves that they don't want to admit they were wrong .
You're not really being clear? Are you standing that the evidence shows him innocent?
@@sibongilegill5278 I'm saying he's innocent
@@sibongilegill5278 I was talking about Woojin
@@dogstarrules7433 oooh. My fault. I was concerned
they took things way too far and went with it💀
Woojin is a victim of harassment and bullying. Do people judge the way other victims choose to tell their stories?
People just wanted a reason to hate on woojin
There's actually OT8 stans since the beginning. So its not a surprise to me anymore. They wanted Woojin to leave the group and blame him for SKZ not being recognized during earlier era. But when Woojin leave, they called him traitor. Now he's making debut, they are sending hate comments.
@@1to1official Why? It's so insane! Blaming him for not being recognized? Him? Not others? Not jyp? Why ppl hete him? He was the best vocalist. I was so sad when he left.
@@FlowerLotusThe visual, his matured visual doesnt fit other members (who look cute and more public appealing). I dont get their beauty standard tho, are they looking for singer or beauty peagant? No wonder so many singers and idols in SK underrated and m9st of them guess what, have a 'just okay' appearance 🙄
Most fans want him to leave, but once he left, the same person called him traitor for betraying the group. And when he debut, these antis still looking for him. I don't know if they are obsessed, crazy or what 🤷🏻♂️
Im glad 10x actually did smth else , if it was another one of those companies they would literally just drop him
Ikr!
I am not a fan of stray kids but I am really sad of what happened to Woojin. I felt it was so unfair. Stray kids fans just hated him because he left the group. Maybe there were reasons why he has to leave the group. I hope he can recover from this fiasco and get on well with his career. Goodluck....
He was my bias in SKz so I was very sad and I didn't know how to feel tbh
There were definitely more reasons as to why I’m pretty sure Woojin is blacklisted.
Honestly when I heard the news he left StrayKids, I immediately thought it either might be due to family problems, or he wants to become a solo artist. After he left I never stalked him and I felt creeped out and became very uncomfortable when people started to stalk him and behave like this.
Leave the man alone. If he doesn't want to be with someone (or a group in this case) let him be free and explore life. Sometimes I wonder what they want to gain after doing all of these stuff to someone who doesn't even know you?
@@frizzy2197 exactly. Family Matter was the first thing that came to my head.
This poor man had gone through so much. And he gets break for just breathing like WTF??
@@yourlocalsha1782 if he was blacklisted, he wouldn’t be able to debut as a solo artist? In any company.. so I don’t think he was personally. He was definitely blacklisted by dumbass fans fueled by disgusting false rumors tho.
Not to also mention, there were plenty of serious articles, interviews, videos, compilations published months ago to spread awareness of his innocence, but were they taken seriously? Nope. Now that the company is done with BS and responding sarcastically to HATERS with facts, people have a problem? But still ignore Woojin is the only real victim here and the Brazilian girls are the culprits.
ikr! when he was proven innocent of SA months ago people either ignored and never apologized or just went to say that they don't care if he didn't do SA just cuz of fake bullying vids about him. im so mad at those people
PERIODTTTT
22:33 a big reason people still justify hating on him is “he promoted his solo debut in his apology” which is literally not the case at all but k-fans probably understood what he was trying to say because, ya know, they actually speak Korean unlike the idiots who believed a mistranslation…that’s probably one reason he doesn’t have nearly as many k-haters
finger killer..... was AMAZING i have never seen a company put out something like that to defend their artist im so happy for woojin and as a proud CUB i will continue to support and love woojin
Wait..does cubs stands for woojin's fandom name?..
@@en-rikwii yes💕
10x best company periodt
@@didibang23 that's cute name 😗
@@en-rikwii ikr🥺🥰❤️
If anyone is disgusted watching the 10x documentary then let me tell that's the reflection of the people who got on the bandwagon of hate to woojin. The whole documentary wasn't making a joke of Sexual assaults but was making a satire or mocking how ridiculously people got into the bandwagon of hate without realising how big of consequences those words would have but even when the situation was clarified seriously, people didn't take it seriously. People, very confidently, even made fun of how the company was "fake" and in reality it didn't exist. The documentary is basically letting people know that they were the ones who let this whole serious situation become a joke which it shouldn't have. People also let someone have a voice that that someone shouldn't have deserved bcoz these kinds of situations make it difficult for the actual victims to fight back. The doc is mocking the the people who got on the hate train but didn't care about the results or clarifications. And only now when they make this kind of "controversial" doc that people have even started paying attention to this situation again. Where was this attention when the situation was being clarified, when they were trying to release statements only to look like a joke and be made fun of. This whole situation, this whole documentary was let to happen by those same people who were constantly hating on woojin and the company in the first place. Don't come at them now and say it's disgusting bcoz it's a reflection of your own behaviour. They're showing you how "You" behaved. 🙄
PREACH👏
YESSSS
Amen😌😌🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻preach these people are mostly kids who are incredibly immature and no nothing about these issues.....sometimes kids should just be quiet,sit small and remain neutral but no they want to ruin someones mental health by bashing him like that fucking kids🙄😒
Yeah, people should really watch the actually documentary before commenting that crap, and if they are still against it, then honestly they are the problem.
Some random men are attacking Yuna cause they think that she’s a FEMINIST?!? Are you serious?? Guys need to realise that women can do whatever they want and be feminists too!! I’m waiting for the day when many Korean celebs will publicly declare that they are indeed feminists.
Which yuna itzy yuna brave girls yuna or what
@@orangenade3707 brave girls
@@ayasups oh ok
Please I saw that too and was weirded out. Like why would they throw hate just because someone is a feminist?
I don’t want to say that beeing a feminist is bad, it‘s good but in korea these days there are many people who call themselves feminist but just hate on men i think this is a reason why feminism in Korea is seen as bad
Seungri 24th hearing
Seungri : "The scale of the investigation was far beyond imagination. I experienced many instances of humiliation, and the coercive interrogation process with their aim of arrest made things really difficult, but I managed to endure it." Former BIGBANG member, SEUNGRI, took to the witness stand as defendant 9 months after the start of the military trial, and recounted his past experiences.
On June 30, Seungri testified at the stand during the 24t" hearing that commenced at the General Military Court of Ground Operations Command at Yongin, Gyeonggi Province. The hearing started at 9.30am and ended at around 9.30pm, with the inclusion of a scheduled lunch break, but due to the high volume of charges, the hearing was extended and ended next day in the afternoon. Seungri, who denied most of the charges, described the over 50 interrogations he experienced as "beyond his imagination" and recounted the 337 days/8088 hours as a painful memory.
Seungri faces 9 charges, including embezzlement, violation of food sanitation act, distributing obscene material (single photo of pornographic nature), prostitution (for self), prostitution mediation, habitual gambling, violation of foreign transactions act, and eliciting violence. He was charged in January last year, enlisted in March, and the trial began in September. Since the start of the trial, Seungri maintained his stance and denied most of the charges with the exception of the foreign transaction act.
Although Seungri looked wearied by the more than 12 hours of cross-examination from military prosecutors, defence attorney and judge, he formed a strong and clear defence throughout. He mentioned that he did not organize any prostitution mediation, and there is no motive for him to do so. Also, he emphasized that he did not partake in any illegal filming. With regards to the embezzlement charge due to the payment of lawyer consulting fees for Yuri Holdings' employee DJ using company funds, he explained that it was a decision made in the company's interest and not for himself. He also explained that a separate movement of funds that resulted in the other embezzlement charge was for brand usage rights.
While Seungri admitted to gambling at a hotel in Las Vegas, as it happened during the spare time he had, he denied the charge of habitual gambling. While he admitted to the violation of foreign transaction act, he clarified that he did not borrow the fund for himself but for the acquaintance who was with him and who also carried out the exchange. Regarding the charge of eliciting violence, he testified that he did not call any gangsters, and only knew about the appearance of gangsters during the interrogation process. During the cross-examination by his lawyer, Seungri confided about the interrogation process and circumstances of the trial. Specifically, he said, "The scale of the investigation was beyond my imagination, and I experienced many instances of humiliation", expressing the despair he had kept in him for a long period of time.
After the disclosure of allegations of violence taking place at Burning Sun Club, Seungri was first questioned by the police on 27 February 2019. On 14 March, Seungri's status was changed to that of a suspect, had 2 arrest warrants rejected, and was eventually indicted without detention on 30 January 2020. This was a span of almost a year or 337 days/8088 hours.
I am not even a stay but i feel so bad that people are still trying to nitpick on his words to cancel him just because they don't want to admit that they probably bullied an innocent person..People saying he should have just given an interview and not make that documentary..But let's be honest, everyone would still have bashed him .I saw so many people saying that he should just come back quietly , i was like why should he?? He deserves to get his name cleared. Even my moots on twitter are a bunch of hypocrites..They are ready to forgive the actual bullies but hate on woojin just because of twisted and fake stuffs.
If I was you, I wouldn't want to keep being moots with people like them. I never tried to hide the fact that I supported Woojin, I started with a thread from a neutral stance since September 10th, then I moved onto supporting him full on. Many moots and many people I really liked being friends with, blocked me, unfollowed me and told me horrible things, but still, I didn't mind to be honest, I was sure of my opinions and I'm not even thankful that I was right, I'm proud for sticking to the right side this whole time.
Hope you're okay~ and have support on your side too, we all need someone to be there for us when everyone else is against us (: take care~
“They don’t want to admit that they probably bullied an innocent person” EXAAAACTLYYYYY
@@MoonshineSunset I would like to thank you for supporting him, even during hard time, lots of love❤️
please stay safe and happy☺️
@@wooxuxi4662 aww thanks~ 🥺 it was difficult, but everything is more or less okay ig, we're enjoying so much content from Woojin and we're closer to his official debut each day that passes~ please stay safe too, and properly drink your water~! 💙✨
@@MoonshineSunset thank you, you too, yes I'm also happy to get to see him, happy and growing so well🥺❤️
I feel bad for Woojin at this point...he suffered so much
Good on 10x and the way they handled this. Whenever I see companies claim to be “looking into the situation” I can’t help but wonder how in depth they actually look. 10x dove head first and went FBI-mode to prove Woojin’s innocence along with the validity of their company. That’s a company truly sticking by their artist. Much respect.
Tbh I think a good chunk of people felt pressured to choose a side because neutrality is touted as “part of the problem”. These instances should be handled with the utmost seriousness and care. Having made such a quick decision shows they don’t take it that seriously or understand the seriousness of it. I agree with the majority of these comments too, I think people really went in on him because they found him ugly. I wasn’t really a stay when all of this was going on and as an observer it was absolutely insane to witness.
I’m sorry, when you said korean media and knetz didn’t even know about woojin’s controversy, and that it was blown up by international fans, I can’t help but laugh. We blame knetz for SO much, and then this happens and it’s ALL on US 😳😂
Omg you’re so right!!! Like we look so…. Not smart especially with how much it blew up because of this when it shouldn’t have been!😭
A lot of International fans are as toxic and bad as those knetz but still, at the end of the day, we blame it on them lmao.
@@user-bear27 exactly!!! It’s the pot calling the kettle black.
Both were equally guilty, each contributed to this
There's no point of anyone blaming the other, this behavior and toxicity needs to be acknowledged as false, throwing the blame on a certain side doesn't make the other innocent
Toxicity exists everywhere :( 💔💔💔
@@PotatoPotataaa and I think we should tell all the international fans this. I-fans always act as if they are better than knetz when they are not.
All the woojin haters are nowhere to be found, cause they are ashamed of themselves. 10x best company.
No matter what you think about Woojin - and I think people have the right to feel however they want about him, his company, his documentary, etc - please leave him alone now. Please stop sending him hate. The dude's been through enough. As someone who refuses to support his career for my own reasons, I'll say: nobody deserves to go through what he did. I really, really hope that the accusers will be held accountable for ruining his life.
Exactly. Like feel how ya want. But don’t destroy someone’s lives because of hate. I wish so badly the person who started it gets charged with something and gets held RESPONSIBLE. They ruined his life and ruined lives for those who did actually get assaulted because now they won’t be believed as easily if it or anything actuallly happened.
i literally ignore him bc I don't care, but im curious as why did he suddenly leave skz? genuinely asking
@@shinelile2632 Nobody really knows why he left Stray Kids, and it's unlikely that we'll ever know. JYPE officially stated that he left due to "personal reasons," and that may be the only answer we'll ever get.
This uncertainty is part of the reason why he's still getting hate, especially since people believe that certain things, like the abrupt timing of his departure and Chan alluding to him "betraying" the group, indicate that he may have been kicked out or at least left the group on bad terms.
@@shinelile2632 nobody knows. I think it’s best because it isn’t really anyone’s business as to why. But only him and the company knows I guess.
If they sent hate though, even in the past, they should really apologize and deeply reflect on themselves tho, then leave him the freak alone.
I still think its funny when i read dkdk’s comment “i dont care seungri guilty or not”. You clearly dont care, if you cared or at least followed his case from the start til 25th trial you wouldnt make your assumption into youtube content
Wasn’t it this channel that had amber react to a vid and they sabotaged her knowing she’d get hate?
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And to think that they once stan bigbang and called themselves vips before. Hypocrites
@@emjaytandingan9975 true
There was a time when one of these two men was super super excited to be a part of Seungri's video and to meet him in person... That's all that I'm saying...
honestly we (stays, cubs, or whatever fandom you're in) will never know the reason why woojin left both the group and company. From JYP's statement, it was because of personal issues. It will always stay personal until woojin feels ready to talk about. Whether it was due to a falling out of friendships or something, we shouldn't go dig into someone's reasoning when he isn't ready.
Seeing his content I assumed it was more creative. He doesn’t seem to fit skz concept entirely IMO.
Agree
You never know, it could have been family issues or him having a legal problem with the company. I feel like there’s no need for him to the previous company to discuss further
@@kristin123a I agree and his current style looks way better than his former style when he was in stray Kidz. It kinda compliments his features overall and vibe.
@@kristin123a i agree he's doing contemporary dancing in his new comeback and the style and sound and everything is INCREDIBLY different from stray kids stuff.
False Accusation is not just "cancelling somebody". It is a prosecutable crime in most countries and so is aiding the perpetrator. It is disgusting how low the inhibition level to commit such crimes is due to the anonymity the internet provides.
Woojin is the sole victim here! Everybody continuing to criticise him should be aware of that.
Woojin life getting ruined by tweets is exactly what happened to G-Dragon. So how did G-Dragon who held an art exhibit for the unjust killing of a black man, get the reputation of being a racist or who spread the lies that he did blackface?
So idk if y'all know but G-Dragon has an mv called Coup detat, and in that mv he is dripping from head to toe in black goo, with white masks around him. It symbolises his darkness inside(depression and sadness from chasing dreams and failing)
So many years ago before release of the mv, a black man Trayvon Martin was killed in America and in pics shared acterwards, he was seen wearing a hoodie. That's it.
Now, 2013, GD was shooting for the Coup Detat mv, completely seperated from this far away in Korea. He was dripping in black water like thing for hours during shoot, he was shivering cold so he covered his head between shots. He looked weird, all dripping wet, so he posted a selfie for fun.
That's when everything blew up. Fans started accusing him of making fun of Trayvon for no reason, and even doing blackface and spread the tweets and fake news everywhere. Immediately YGE released a statement the very next day, and cleared it was for a different mv, that they also had GD in all red and all black dripping material as well. But the damage was done. The fake news kept travelling, And to this day people call GD racist in Trayvon's name.
What about the art exhibit then?
Even after black fans murdered GD's reputation based on false narratives, he showed his human side again.
He was holding an exhibit of his song lyrics, and has a 2008 song titled "I can't breathe". This song was released 6 years before Eric Garner's death. Eric Garner, another black man who was killed in racial hatred in America in 2014. But GD didn't know about it.
So a few years later, this art exhibition was to be strictly surrounding GD, but one artist proposed that GD use this opportunity to raise awareness about black rights in Korea. We all know how racist Koreans are, and how judgemental. But GD took a stand for what was right and said okay , I'll dedicate one art piece to this cause which also needs attention. So the artist proposed they use a line from GD's song from 2008 , I can't breathe, and portray is so it comes to represent the last words of Eric, who died in 2014. GD was taken aback at the request but had to do what he could to help the cause of black rights, even in his own small way. And he dedicated the art piece to Eric, instead of himself. All this doesn't get covered by any fan or media. If breaks my heart when people falsely accuse GD that oh he did blackface bla bla when it's the complete opposite.
i never knew about any of this. thank you for sharing this ♡
Wow! Thanks for the info! I’ve always seen people talking about GD doing blackface but never really looked into it. I guess it was just because of how much I love him and didn’t wanna believe it. (Kinda bad on my part but I’m owning it) Thanks for commenting this!!!!
@@YoongSeung I hope it's clear now. GD never did blackface. People share that selfie with such wild claims which ultimately only end up hurting sentiments of black people the- one thing GD would never accept.
Once a person want you to be hated,it's easy for them to use racism because most people will believe it
@@LovelyKissess for real it breaks my heart so much. Specially Gd gets hated for absolutely bs reasons but many other idols have actually mocked people with intention and they aren't ever held accountable. Just GD is the punching bag
It's so funny how any crazy person could just go online and start hating on others making things up. Im Korean and all I can say is people really need to understand how dark Korean culture is.
Yup I was a crazy BTS army who wanted to go to Korea and live there for rest of my life but ... Ummm you know the more deeper I go the more dark it gets .... Perhaps every culture have a dark side and I do respect as it's just the shadow part of a system ....
Cancel culture is something I will never understand. 😥 Why are people so quick to judge and so quick to hate...
It's not about one person or things that we see on k pop, what am talking about its the culture itself and how bad, disrespectful it is. Their is a huge difference in hate and facts and unfortunately it's really bad. I pray everyday that the new generation will change this habits and way of thinking.
I loved how y'all handled the Woojin case. Some people need to hear the truth non sugar coated. And Mina just needs to stay off of the internet and get a hobby
Hi there! I'm not sure if it's intentional or a mistake, but the AOA member in the ending scene is Yuna, not Mina!
Those chats were quite disturbing. It shows that you really don't know these people and you get acquainted with an image, nothing more. The thing is, these guys who got exposed in this scandal may only be a drop in the bucket. There are probably so many others who believe their fame and money give them the right to objectify women but sadly we'll neve know.
you are right on. whether its fake or not, it is not an appropriate thing at all. it goes to show the image of idols we see in the media may not be the image they carry when off the camera. and that's is truly disappointing because we as fan believe they are as good as they show us.. they may seem like the sweetest everytime the camera is on but homophobic, sexist, rasict, etc when the cameras are off. I treat kpop idols the same way I treat American celebrity. the same way American celebrities can fuck up is the same way korean idols can fuck up. no matter how many concert i attend or videos I watch of them, I still don't know them nor do they know me as their fan. and I'm find with that. they support to the ones I like is all that is needed.
I just hope Jackson Wang never disappoints me when it comes to being kind to people. He is almost single handedly reminding me that men can be good. It would seriously be a huge blow for me.
Yes, right... but this chats was proved fakes on 2019 by the court. They are made by patchwork from different chats and Seungri wasn't involved at all.
Dispatch already know it of course, but make money using a big name is always worth and people belive everything and then talk about it without see real trial things.
Thing is, had these chats actually been real, they would've come up in his trial. These latest 'chats' were copy/paste from the chats that were posted in 2019, and even those were falsified (which the media admitted to, later the very same year). The fact that they're re-posting these, only now even more edited to fit the narrative they're trying to put forth, is even more disturbing to me. One of the messages has been used in multiple different screenshots in various settings already. The exact same one.
U mean that chats that were edited? Yea sooo scary
I think those rumours about Woojin got big because the Stay fandom on Twitter is basically like 12-16 years olds who have no sense of logical and analytical reasoning 😬 I was on that Twitter scene for a couple of months. Realised I was way too old to be in there lmao
Yeah whenever I see silly fandom stuff nowadays I just sigh and think 'the kids are at it again'. I've had a lot of amazing mature interactions with various K-pop fans, including younger ones, but I also regularly get the 'im too old for this' vibe and just leave certain parts of the fandom alone.
They even send hate with everyone who collab with him, Kim Jaehwan, Etham, and Gaho.
Same
I may be 16 but I feel so old within the engenes ....maybe it's because the fandoms I follow is pretty old or chill. I have never encountered such bad things being an Aroha or a tomoon,etc. But my God it literally boils my blood everytime I look at engenes, idk how they stir up so much shit it's literally mind boggling ಠ_ಠ being a pre-debut enegene I honestly feel disgusted from the start of iland till now the fandom is filled with so much shit (ب_ب)
Sorry for ranting
bro this 10x company really fucking good-
Yes . They helped Woojin to stand up again . Not like that jypshit( fvck they never cared about their artist). I'm gonna support this company forever .
@@indiancarateume9980 fr! they couldn't even address the bullying scandal/accusation properly, i missed hyunjin so f*cking much when they acted like it was his fault???? 10x handled a shitty accusation about sexual assault 10x better ✨
@@bluesideloml3150 we can't expect this kind of treatment from jypshit .
Dang if dispatch are that reliable with "proof" ,they should replace police department already(although police are also biased in Seungri case)
Dispatch has edited chats before so they’re not lol
KPoppies never cease to amaze me. Y’all are all mad about false allegations of SA against Woojin but gleefully participate in spreading false allegations against Seungri in regards to SA. Something he was never accused of. And it’s so very laughable that y’all think these two are a credible source of information when all they are doing is regurgitation of other gossip rags. And for them to excuse their misinformed campaign against Seungri on the fact Seungri has money? Ridiculously childish. Do rich people get away with all kinds of things? Sure they do, but that doesn’t automatically make someone with money guilty of crimes they didn’t commit? That excuse just reeks of jealousy and bias. And no the prosecution had no evidence against Seungri which is why the arrest warrants were never granted. They had police coerced and falsified witnesses statements, statements every single witness (over 30) recanted or denied saying during the trial testimony. Seungri bribed all of them on a soldier’s salary? Really? Even if he had access to his money he’d be effectively broke bribing over 30 witnesses, 160 policemen, 5 judges and god knows how many prosecutors. Are you all really that dimwitted or does it physically hurt you to admit you were wrong? That you participated in destroying someone’s reputation and life because the media needed clicks and money? Did any of you wait for all the facts? No you jumped on the guilty wagon from go. And these two are just salty because for whatever reason they are no longer allowed to associate with any YG artists, considering how fast they sold out BigBang and Seungri can anyone guess why? You know what the biggest disappointment out of all this is going to be? That Seungri isn’t likely to sue you back into oblivion where you belong. Out here making money on other people’s misery under the guise of “news” and you have the gall to claim moral high ground? Karma is real it may not strike today or tomorrow but it’s inevitable and harsh.
I wish he would sue them back into oblivion along with all these malicious comments. People are spreading lies and they never seem to even want to know the truth. They’ve already decided. Pathetic. It’s not hard to find the truth, the receipts are there, you just have to wade thru a quagmire of bullshit to get to it. This video included. Dispatch is a rag. This video is proof. 🍀
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Apparently they are really that dimwitted
I am not a seungri fan so I don't know about his case, I especially came here for Woojin. I'm guessing you're referring to Danny and David and I hope you don't generalize. If you know that seungri is innocent then try to get people informed , because people won't investigate on their own or might get confused .like I said I don't support seungri but I wouldn't send hate and I hope that those who are lying get to face the consequences of their actions.
@@rebeckablackmore3145 I hope more people are like you
I needed this break for some tea 🍵
damn, you're always so early. respect
@@lasagnagamer8254 🤣 I don't have much of a life.
hearing about seungri and kakao chatrooms in the same sentence just sent me straight back to 2019 holy shit
The chat was edited. How cruel
probably because it is the same edited chats from 2019 🙃
Idk how people cry sbs and dispatch is shit (which is true tho) yet they automatically believe chats that could have possibly been edited and it was true. And it’s not the first time dispatch anyway shows either out of context chats or just edited them
@@vickyfan6699 possibly edited
THANK YOU!!! Woojin has gone through the heaviest sht someone could go. First he got falsely accused of harassment, his previous fans believed those rumours in a blink of an eye because they already didn't like him and only "stand" him was because of the group he was in. His personal information was leaked, he received death threads, blackmailed, imagery with his face on it was being scratched, damaged and destroyed, being called p3do, ræpist, and all his interaction with his previous members were being overanalyze just to have a "reason" to keep hating on him. But is not like he could've ended his life, right? Because hating someone online is harmless and doesn't affect at all their mentality. 🐻
So 2pm has a comeback and you don't talk about it? No mention at all? As soon as Seungri news,, you chase for clout
Exactly!
Its kinda funny how people have double standards here its all “ innocent until proven guilty” but not in Seungri’s case they declare him guilty from day one! And even accused him of charges even the police didn’t accuse him of because they mixed his case with JJY’s!
There are differences in saying someone is guilty and being disgusted by a person who treats women shitty.
@@NisaK_BTSVT Treating women shitty would be in person, so you've met Seungri and he did this?
@@NisaK_BTSVT it seems like you have seen seungri closely and you even know him very well 😂
@@NisaK_BTSVT every woman who has ever met Seungri only has nice things to say about him. Please go get updated on his case through court documents instead of dumb UA-cam channels like this
Nah...when it comes to men its "guilty till proven innocent"
Society nowadays
I’ve been listening to kpop for more than 10 years and what constantly surprises me is how kpop fans just CANNOT have an unbiased, neutral, mature opinion. Or maybe cos fans spewing shit in the i ternet are the younger ones? Idk. It’s crazy how you all believe an article or what someone says so easily without thinking if there is more behind the story/claims, and you all jump ship so easily once there are evidence.
Ikr!!! And the fact that so many kpop fans were guilt tripping the people who were staying neutral by saying "you are supporting the offender by staying neutral", which was straight up bullshit.
This is how we know this people have npt being following SR case at all. The level of misinformation in their comments and responses... is wow! People should follow FRESH ILLUMI an ACTUAL KOREAN LAWYER who have followed SR case.
It’s disgusting isnt it? But that’s exactly what the media wants & these blind sheep just keep following the herd.
Exactly! Sadly people don't want to know the truth 🙁
Further, follow (VLM)VIPlegalmonitors on youtube, twitter and Instagram. They are led by a team of lawyers who have been covering his case in details including LIVE lectures, and question and answer sessions. I am the former student of one of them. We studied his case in class from a legal perspective without any of these media bias.
@@wh5706 Adding to this: Read Business Mirror's Seungri articles. Very detailed, non biased, written by lawyer and explained in an easy way. Recent article is about his 24th and last hearing.
I think to determine a video as unprofessional you need to look at the CONTENTS of it. Sure it was comedic at times (even got a couple of laughs out of me) but they came with really solid evidence and research and proof, and the video was fairly lengthy and detailed. I think the tone was just so people, whether they like, hate, or just don't care about woojin or his situation, they'll be forced to see the evidence. It's eye catching and it's not boring at any moment, and it makes you pay attention to the evidence presented closely (besides if your only complaint about the documentary is the tone and not the actual evidence provided then I think it's done it's job tbh lmao)
I saw this on twitter when it was in the 'is this actually his solo debut promo video?' phase and agreed with the firestorm but as a documentary/debunking cover/promo using those accusation sentences makes sense and isn't disrespect
People literally threw WooJin out from the group, his whole dream career, his company and now that he is trying to survive once again without giving up they're again hating him just because at some point they're proven wrong. And Human can't accept that they're wrong.
There's actually OT8 stans since the beginning. They never acknowledge Woojin. Why? Just because he's ugly. So its not a surprise to me anymore. They wanted Woojin to leave the group and blame him for SKZ not being recognized during earlier era. But when Woojin leave, they called him traitor. Now he's making debut, they are sending hate comments.
@@1to1official like humans can be so pathetic. They want him to give up, why would he? When he had done nothing. Pathetic people.
This show should be changed from ‘DK News’ to ‘DK Opinions’
Damn, this Seungri case has been going on for forever.
It just shows how hard it is to hold an influential rich person accountable
Its a sign that all accusations were true
Covid made all court cases pretty long and delayed unfortunately
@@saranaila5905 Then explain how they locked up the other people ACTUALLY involved so easily? Explain that if he's so guilty, why'd they have to lie to the media multiple times and fake chats? Why'd victims and witnesses defend him? Why'd no girl besides that mention him? Clearly, they can't link him to the situation whatsoever.
@@idolcherryblossom7062 its a sign that u havent read the real court transcript
I’m proud that I didn’t believe the rumors. It hurts that some believed that rumors because he’s the lest famous member , if it was a famous member of stray kids all of the stays will stay in his side. ( I’m not talking about all stays)
They did well! This company is a real one. Not letting people dirtying their artist life and image!! Every company should protect their artist like that.
Ah yes because making a comedic documentary of SA is soooOoO much protecting and definitely okay. Both the company and the girls did that and it’s wrong in both cases. The company handled that documentary like trash making it seem like SA is a joke
@@yourlocalsha1782 it wasn't about sexual assault it was about cyberbullying. Also when they were putting out serious statements no one cared. They've spoken out before and been ignored so what else was there for them to do.
@@yourlocalsha1782 they released a serious statement before and yall didnt seem to care and just keep hating, even said the company was fake bla bla bla🤷♂️🤷♂️ and the documentary wasnt even about the SA itself, it was about the harassment and bullying he got. and don't you think you should also be mad at the fake accusers? they took a serious topic just to get someone they hate cancelled
@@yourlocalsha1782 did u watch the documentary? idk if we even watched the same one because in no way did they try to make light of SA. the purpose of the video was to show the struggle that the company and Woojin went through due to FALSE allegations. in this case, Woojin was the victim. he and the company, who suffered mentally, and likely physically, for months, have a right to speak up about the harassment they faced. no one is asking you to support Woojin, but to me it seems that you just want to find any reason to mock him. people were upset because they thought he was using the tweets in a teaser for his music video, but no, it turned out to be a teaser for this informative video. I applaud the company for all of the effort they put in to prove his innocence. if they want to cope with this frustrating, stressful, ridiculous situation in a more lighthearted manner, as victims, they have the right to do so. the focus of this video was the cyberbullying and how the company dealt with it, not SA. the people who created the false allegations are really the ones treating SA as a joke.
@@yourlocalsha1782 that comment right there proves you haven’t seen the documentary
About your woojin section, *someone had to say it* good for you guys for speaking your truth and letting your voice do good for the poor guy. I applaud this DKDKTV, way to go!
I feel like 10x entertainment made the documentary that way because they wanted a different approach. If it was emotional people might say it's fake and an attempt to make them sympathize with Woojin and make him look good or angelic . They wanted it to be humorous and lighthearted to be relatable and easy to understand. They never mocked SA or the victims, they mocked those who hated on him and started this for no apparent reason and hated Woojin just because. They provided proof and mocked the ill and poor attempt of the slanderers and those who followed the hate train like blind sheep .They know they can't please everyone but they did their best. No matter what , people will focus on what they don't like rather than what is presented, if they literally asked everyone what they wanted to see, they'll still be people who are upset about smth, so people should look at the documentary objectively and focus on the evidence and facts.
I'm not saying this as a Cub (a fan of woojin) but it's just my non biased opinion.
The guy moved on and is doing great on his own, he's looking much healthier and happier now and he grew so much as an artist , he himself mentioned that he was gonna start focusing on his fans and their love and support and overcome the past and all that hate ^^ he even mentioned how he thinks this needs to stop and that many artists besides himself suffer from such false accusations and rumors .
There's literally no "valid" reason left for haters to hate on him and they're running out of excuses that they're helplessly tryna start new ones... Haters, please move on because this is obsessive behavior and seriously unhealthy, we're not asking you to support him but just let him be 🤦🏽♀️
Why i dont want these idiots are insulting at Seungri is bad I am very upset about the Burning Sun incident also what many netizens did this and I am knowing he is not involved the prostitution it was JJY did messed up I am reading the articles on Rappler but i am post the comment for protecting Seungri but i saw these toxic people are insulting at my comment so i am going reply back and block the trolls who disrespect at Seungri Its was the anti's fault for bullying at Seungri I am still cares about Seungri Reminding to everyone who needs to care about Seungri Stand Up and Educated it
Woojin I love you. And i am sorry for the bullshit you went through. You never should've went through that.
Omg thank you for your neutral stance in this woojin situation from the beginning.
Netizen : it's so gross what they did to Woojin. Nobody should be falsely accused. (I agree)
Also Netizen: I dont care if it's true or not, Seungri is guilty, I dont care, dont talk to me about him, I already accused him guilty.
Lol logic much?
Isn't being two faced great!?
Thank you so much for this transparent comments regarding Woojin’s situation. Really appreciate people who have broad and wide range of understanding. 🥺 Thanks for staying neutral. ❤️
I feel like the people who have a problem with Woojins documentary are the same people who jumped on the hate train and are now refusing to admit they were wrong, so they are still trying to make him the "bad guy."
I still wonder how stays live with themselves knowing they've done shit to Woojin who was a member of SKZ. Like sure go on with 8 members and have good success but like how did they flip on him so fastm
Exactly, thay are salty they got manipulated and maybe too ashamed to defend him now.
@@melissav2457 I remember seeing fans destroying merch, like crossing out his face, ripping out pages from photo books and burning them, painting photocards etc. And they did that JUST off rumors and allegations on twitter right when it happened, I wonder how they feel now lol.
@@aspannas I always wonder how they give double standard to woojin and hyunjin. Both innocent but got diff treatment. It didn't take long for stays to cancel wj and make nasty vids of him as bullying the members etc. But when it came to hyunjin they still defend and fight for him and collected every proof poss and still waiting for him....I'm glad hyunjin has loyal fans but I hope yall get wht I'm saying. Also ik the accusations were diff for both but I'm comparing the Fandom reaction
@@melissav2457 Yeah it's fucked up, kpop fandoms can be really insane and the korean society isn't very accepting of apologies and it's very easy to destroy people's lives and careers with lies. And there's so much hypocrisy as well in the fandoms.
We should always belive victims enough to investigate. That doesn't mean we should blindingly belive all accusations.
We should listen to all accusations, take the appropriate steps to validate the information before forming opinions. Unfortunately people know that a lot of people on social media do not require proof. They do not require for the accusations to even make sense. They will see it and run with it. That is why it is a common way to ruin the career of someone you do not like.
And how in this world became equal to the accuser??
B4 anything gets confirmed your "victim" is just considered an accuser even if they're telling the truth
@@CoolWinter by definition anyone that brings up aleged crimes they are an accuser. The problem is if the claims are ignored
@@patriciogonzalez1898 being an accuser is not necessarily a bad thing like I accuse a bad person of doing bad or I accuse a good person of doing bad things.
As long as I don't have evidence to backup my statements I m still an accuser when I give some evidence I should be believed and empathized as a victim should be
@@CoolWinter that's what I was saying we agree
The amount of crickets in this episode is HILARIOUS!
Glad for woojin.
But I would say the talk about seungri was all about, ' I thinks' from your side. Your thoughts & beliefs are what is leading to a very biased research. Use the legal papers, the proofs Please. The things that aren't brought in court can never be considered facts.
And please keep your opinions to yourself and share the public actual facts. And aslo, 'Innocent until proven guilty' HOPE YOU LEARN THAT.
Preach!!
Wow so u didnt follow SR's case at all. U sound insecure , like u desperatly want him to be the guy u imagined he is. Its kinda pathetic. I read every article from the court and there was no one who made me even DOUBT him. And im not even a fan , im a lawyer and I was interested in the case. What I see right now is that Korea wants him to be guilty and it doesnt matter if he is innocent cuz u will always say that he paid them off. Its doesnt matter that there were 132 policemrm who investigated etc. In fact , it seems like ur goverment WANTS him in jail. Never really expected that from a developed country, absolute disgrace
It's not a good look for their justice system, is it? It is a disgusting part of their culture to be in solidarity with hating someone, to side with the majority who hates than to side with the truth.
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@@cat-uy2zl its seems like they have this agenda that a rich person must be hated just cuz they have money. Its toxic way of thinking and the fact that court ALLOWS media manipulations and investigation is led by public opinion is what I would never expect from a country that presents itself like a developed one. Im yet to see any evidence against him, the absolute JOKE of the prosecution (how the hell can u demand 5 years of prison when u did not present any evidence , MORE THAN THAT ur own witnesses testified against u). The amount of misinformation and the fact that korean society ate it like they waited for it is just rediculous.
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Amen! It seems like it boils down to jealousy.
Never have I ever seen a society such as theirs where someone is pressured to do well in life but once they become successful, everyone is wishing for their downfall because to them the person had it easy.
They want to make an example of a celebrity so as to show that nobody can escape the "law".
The problem is that the law and protocols in place were never followed to begin with. Almost 3 years of wasting resources and time but they still got nothing.
The police even read the messages between him and his lawyer, checked his expense records for the past 10 years and found nothing.
They should have accepted that there was nothing worth pursuing but noooo. They fired the police officer who noticed something was off and voiced out that the investigation was going in the wrong direction.
They don't want to accept that they made a mistake. Their careers are at stake so they had to make him guilty of something, anything they can pin on him.
Now we have this witch-hunt.
@@cat-uy2zl its also funny how their society seems to think media is something they can totally trust and police&court r corupt if final verdict goes against public desires. The entire country just seems to ignore the fact that the media is the tool of the state (sorry for my eng btw)
Honestly I believe that people that fake sexual assault or rape claims deserve as much jail time as an actual rapist! That may sound harsh but you have to be a pretty messed up person to make up such a horrible accusation!
It's not harsh. I actually agree. They're doing damage and trying to get a person jailed,so they should know what it's like
When do people realize that cyberbullying can ruin someone's entire life?! I really feel bad for woojin, his life fell apart right in front of his eyes and still get bullied online
"I don't know why its so hard for people to stay neutral until facts come out."
...okay now apply that to Seungri hypocrites.
I think Seungri's case is different. How the heck would you stay neutral when it turns out that he treats woman like shit. I'M NOT SAYING HE TAKES PART IN PROS****.
@@NisaK_BTSVT No woman ever accused him of treating them like shit. Stop acting as though social media speculations or manipulated chats have any worth in this conversation. They don't. It's hypocrisy to say withhold judgement and wait for facts and then turn around and believe every baseless rumour about the most witch hunted person in this industry.
@@NisaK_BTSVT give me receipt when did he treat women like shit. Seems that you know a lot.
@@NisaK_BTSVT If we are to belive in women, then we must believe in the fact no woman has come forward with any complaints against him criminal or otherwise. So, how is his case different? You are just speculating based on rumours. You can't change your rules to suit you from one person to another. Either all innocent until proven guilty or admit you don't believe in due process.
@@NisaK_BTSVT where is the woman who he treated like shit? Can you ask her to go forward to the prosecution coz all the victims they put forth said seungri is innocent
Good to know they freaking ignored all the information released from the past 24 hearings, it looks like they really intended to miss the opportunity to bring awareness to Seungri's case. I'm upset, I really was waiting for the two you to cover this case but... not like this, there is a lot of information out there about it; the witnesses' testimonies and even Seungri's own testimony and you still decided to go with these chats. I remember one of these two was even a fan of BB... I expected that he would dedicate some of his time to follow the case. Having a big channel like yours come with the responsability of being aware the influence you have on your audience, if this video is a prime example of your other videos I hope you can bring better and truthful content to your viewers.
Who cares about the truth? It's about money and clout. So sick. Imagine not feeling any guilty ruining innocent life.
The more anyone follows the case the more shady Seungri becomes. He is lying about the good giving girls phrase from the beginning and now these vulgar chats.
He has confessed in court the phrase good giving girls -saying it was a typo, that proves the chats are real
Funfact: these episodes get filmed beforehand chill
@@NisaK_BTSVT I'm chill, upset but chill, did I sound too aggressive hahaha?
I mean, the dispatch article they're discussing was published jul 2 while the last hearing was jun 30, they could have made a really interesting condensed summarize of the case, but nope...
I guess, thank you for let me see I was getting really worked up haha that is the worst way to start arguing on the internet 😂 still, I do not like this video
@@hitergarb9187 I was really going to write you a long paragraph but I don't want to sound that intense. I see that you copied and pasted this same reply under other people's comments and people have already replied to you, hope you can reply them as well. Have a nice day
How much did you get from Dispatch? Did you guys split the money just to share your thoroughly researched falsified chatroom?
Mina just needs to take a step back and away from social media for a while. Some mental health counseling may be in order as well. It is beyond unfortunate that her being a victim of bullying is being overshadowed by this love triangle fiasco.
Victim lmao
This woman lies more often than breathes
I agree she needs to get help and step away from sns, but there isn't proof she is a victim and people have debunked things she has blamed Jimin for as well. This cheating scandal isn't overshadowing the bullying one at all, it's only shedding more light to it since she admitted she lied about the father threating her, upon other things.
People never got to hear Jimin's side, but now people are realizing that Mina has lied about multiple things and exaggerates, which comes off as her being emotionally manipulative with a victim mentality. Her mental illness should not be a shield to excuses her of this behavior and should be called out on it.
Jimin only apologized for not being the best leader and left the industry, which doesn't equal her admitting to bullying. In fact, Jimin was never able to share her side because Mina was threating her life and is unstable, so anything that she said could push Mina over the edge. Jimin chose the moral thing to do and stayed quiet over her trying to clean her image. Until Mina becomes mentally heathy, i don't expect to hear from the other side.
Seungri is innocent
To the person who made a video of woojin in prison don't be shy, say sorry and shame on you 🤡🤡🤡
I always gave Woojin the benefit of the doubt. Since there were allegations I was leery of him being “clean” but being that there was never any evidence I didn’t look too much into it. Especially since the random guys photo was stolen, it made it seem like that one was a false report from the get go. I’m glad that his name has been cleared and hopefully he can have a successful career as a soloist.
Could we please start getting timestamps for the topics in your videos?
Saw a meme that kinda suits this channel :
Reporting 101:
If someone says it’s raining outside & another says it’s sunny & dry. It’s not your job to quote them both.
Your job is to look out the window and find out which is true.
It’s fairly simple, right? Stop using tabloids as media sources for legal cases of a witch hunt.
That’s the way every company should react to any accusation against their idols. Thorough investigation and then prosecution of false accusers if they turn out to be so. Those people that throw baseless accusations harm not only the idols and their company that lots of peoples livelihoods depends on but also the real victims of harassment and bullying that will be put automatically in doubt category because of them. So well done to the company! Others should follow your example!
When will dkdktv stop mentioning seungri, and stop assuming things about seungri’s case and make it into youtube videos. Let me tell you, you aint judge, you aint prosecutor, and you aint lawyer. You’re just disgraced ex fan who’s lucky noticed by seungri but again you’re making assumption here.
You are right. The person got away too easily. It's about time these malicious people are held accountable. I don't know much about Woojin but any person's life should not be messed/ruined because someone's hate behind the keyboard. Lawyer them good with firm and open approach. 👏👏👏👏
Watching this makes me remember someone at the time said they didn't like the documentary bc it was "making fun" of people who believed the rumors. It still boggles my mind to think that someone who blindly believed rumors and didn't look at the facts thinks they should be coddled. If you get to make memes about woojin, then he can make memes about you, it's as simple as that. What goes around comes around
Woojin's predebut single "Still Dream" is coming out on the 8th of July. Please support it 💙🐻
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DKDKTV,
Both of you have always been so opinionated and making speculations just to draw attention from the public. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS CHOOSE TO BE KIND, the person you are talking to is innocent unless proven guilty. Let the lawyers, prosecutors, investigators, policemen do their job.
Thank you
Just got harassed on a discord yesterday for posting about Woojin's teaser by a moron citing EVERYTHING that was already cleared up and debunked ages ago. Yet all they could say was that the documentary was "cringey" but apparently skipped ALL the evidence inside it.
They don't have any right to complain when they themselves ignore all the serious warning 10X gives in the past and treat the company like a complete joke. 10X just return the favor and treat them like a joke while proving that they're wrong and they have the audacity to make a demand???
They don't have any right to complain when they themselves ignore all the serious warning 10X gives in the past and treat the company like a complete joke. 10X just return the favor and treat them like a joke while proving that they're wrong and they have the audacity to make a demand???
@@maliniras Exactly lmao. They probably got offended that they were taking a piss out of the haters and refused to accept they were wrong
I blame people like you for what happened to Tablo and you are doing it again to seungri.
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@@howardrouz4600 many years ago(over 10 now if my memory serves) Tablo was caught up in a scandal created by netzens and spread by media. Of all things it was about his degree. Even after he got statements from his University and show proof of his degree people refused to believe that a "mere kpop idol could be that smart". The flaw is reasoning was shocking what was worse was the threats to his safety and his family. He couldnt leave his home for weeks. Even today, he will speak of the trauma from that time. Acting upon rumours and popular beliefs is dangerous. Each person must consider what their actions might do if a person is innocent. For example if Seungri is innocent then every hater/anti/misinformation video and clickbait media have contributed to ruining the life of an innocent man and putting his innocent family through a nightmare. The reason we should act like civilized folks in because the possibility of innocence exists.
“Time to Hajima” 😂 Insta Lives are never a good idea.
Western Kpop stans are becoming the worse version of Korean Kpop stans. They really wanna try to cancel anyone, and they also believe everything they see on Twitter and never investigate. Remember when people made those videos of Woojin out of context and trying to make him look a bully. Literally they are the real bullies.
Obviously not all of international fans and you know k fans have done even more shitty stuff like asking to remove chen from EXO for getting married or saesengs
@@Heyyllo do you even know how many fans actually turned up for the exo thing? It was honestly so hilarious bcoz it was like some 30-40 people. It's an extremely small population of the whole k-exo-ls that even the rest of the fandom laughed at them. 😅😂
@@Heyyllo western Stans were sending dead threats to Niki few weeks ago and wanted Niki to leave of group. Long time ago we made fun and criticized how crazy are Korean stans but nowadays The western fans are getting more toxic and harassing every idol they don’t like.
@@blairwrelos1891 exactly even the Koreans fans congratulated him. Those were just the craziest ones who wanted him to leave of group.
International Fans are the ones defending Seungri against the cruelty Koreans have towards him.
The problem is, people see kpop as a fantasy life and the perfect personality they are forced to have, gets some people addicted. They see idols as characters instead of human and begin to believe they are perfect.
Big mistake.
All humans have flaws and no one is perfect. People are so unhappy and depressed that they look for happiness in the wrong ways. And one of those wats are through kpop. People come here and treat kpop like their own controlled real life fantasy. Trying to create a perfect world through real human beings.
It's easy to get disappointed when you're out of touch with reality. Kpop was created to be that way. Give young girls a perfect male idol to fantasies about and spend all of their time and money on. This is a very unhealthy place for those whos mind drifts.
Woojin got all of this hate literally for nothing. Because he wasn't a part of many girls fantasy. He wasn't that "beautiful perfect" boyfriend they dreamt about so he got loads of hate for it. While Hyunjin got numerous of love and support for having a victim. Woojin had ex fans spreading every bit of hate towards him. No victims
I thought news is supposed to be OBJECTIVE
This isn’t news it’s subpar rehashing of trash gossip sites articles
No way hahahahah they're just visualizing their braincells
The fact that some YG stans still have the freaking audacity to defend this man and be that senseless to say " knetz have always hated Yg artists and want to take advantage of his fame cause he is BB member and that the police is shitty". Yall seriously think the Korean police department and govt has nothing better to do than wait and spoil a Yg artist. Just cause yall jobless ur world revolves around kpop or yg doesn't mean the whole of SKs does.
Did you see the articles they’ve posted? All the witness confessed saying he didn’t do anything to them. Heck, even the police confessed and said that they were paid to say what they said. The guy that was behind all this doesn’t even want to show up to court that’s why they kept pushing the trial date back.
BUT NO. People are still hating on him. He gave the court all his phones and his keys to his house and cars to proof his innocence but NO, people like you still hate on him. He even said it, he was in the group chat but he didn’t check all his messages all the time. I don’t even check my messages on snap, Instagram and Facebook so what the heck?! They even said there was other group chats in his phone and they weren’t checked after lying saying he replied to everything in his phone 🤦🏽♀️
Also,
Korea has always hated YG. YG was always labeled the “bad influence” company because of their hip hop image. People misjudged them and said they were the carefree company just because of how they act ON STAGE or how they dress. Like tf 🙄 YG’s artist were always known for their performance but people think they should perform like other typical group and dance and all. 🤦🏽♀️ YG Entertainment is the only company that didn’t sign with CJ NM (which other companies like SM) did. YG’s artist were always used to cover up their government fuck ups.
@@yourstrulyygfamily7176 did u even see the chats of Seungri that were released which were disgusting as hell to which he blames his autocorrect which is the worst excuse u could come up with. No one cares if u don't check ur messages. This guy is business man with lots of responsibility in his hands and didn't have the brains to check what the gc was about?? Don't act like a stupid stan who thinks govt is as jobless as kpop fans to sit and hate Yg.
@@yourstrulyygfamily7176 Korea hates YG.
Who tf u think made their artists such huge legends and success then? That company and the artists have fcked up many times and brought hate on itself. I don't have to say bout this Seungri ik. Their artists have done CA many times such as black face and dreads etc but not have the audacity himself or the company to apologize. Have said he doesn't ever wanna promote in Korea his hometown which would make the citizens very happy u guess?? SK is very conservative country and very diff from western or other ones. They love using cuss words in their songs which is no prob to me. Gambling is ig banned in SK and for their citizens even outside SK but they still did it. Godsake yall even think BI case is going on cause police love to torture Yg artists like get our of ur bubble dude, they have actually Jobs to fulfill than wait around to spoil Yg artists career.
The most disgusting thing is that most of the fans who defend him, are women. Like wtf
@@inozvambaia9157 oh god seriously. He might not be guilty in everything he was charged of but doesn't mean he was a freaking innocent man just dragged here out of the blue right. I swear to God, these fans gotta think bout this case by putting aside that he was a BB and Yg artist cause they are brainwashed af
Yes!! Yes!!! So glad so many people starting to see the light about Woojin! Poor guy! I always pitied him over all the lies! So glad he has some vindication finally.
i felt bad for woojin when everything was happening
I think if woojin ever watched your videos he will be thankful to you guys...You people really did a good job back then, providing evidence for the company existence and true journalism. And Bravo to the company, for taking a firm stand for their artist.
21:10 Nobody is talking about those girls because the majority of them actually never cared about SA/victims in the first place. Since his departure, they've all been looking for a reason to hate him, and when they found one, they all cancelled him right away. If they genuinely cared, they would be blaming those girls for joking/lying on such a sensitive subject rather than bashing Woojin(for stupid reasons) who has been proven innocent months ago.
Exactly
Could you PLEASE go over the Woojin Finger Killer documentary in another video??? Pls you have such a massive following and it would help a lot to rebuke those haters and antis that send death threats to Woojin.
Keep woojin away from these two please...I feel sorry for what happen to woojin and hope things get better for him...
21:04 YESSS!!! YESS!! FACTS! finally someone who is neutral from the start! Thank you guys!
You need to run a better fact check on seungri case. Dispatch ain’t shit. Click bait clout chasers.
You know actually I was a stay in that period, I didn’t attacked him personally of course and I think I kinda stayed neutral. That situation gave me so much stress plus I was seriously so sad from his departure from the group (and still don’t get how why he went out of the company, I don’t think that the members and him had a good relationship). I did believed all those rumors and I do regret it.
I think he mainly got all that hate also due to the lack of information and the sudden of his departure, jype and his fault.
The real criminal are all of those people who created such rumors.
I’m still not gonna support him, mainly bc I associate him with that time and that state of mind, but that doesn’t mean I hate him or hate everyone who support him.
I just wish everyone will respect every person decision and won’t attack them for choosing to support or not support him.
honestly I’m the same but.. opposite. It actually put me off stray kids a bit. I didn’t believe the rumours and was so stressed about all the other rumours stays were coming out with like “he abused and sexually assaulted felix and I.N” because I knew chan was seeing all that and thinking we were freaks. I still stan stray kids but I felt myself distancing myself from them because how insufferable their fans had become during that time😪
Same here tbh. It's been a crazy situation all around and it's caused a lot of people - Stays and Cubs especially - a lot of stress. It should've been handled so much better all around tbh
i stayed neutral to when the news first came out but the thing that made me dislike him was when he first addressed the allegations. he called these serious allegation as weird rumors and that left a bad taste in my mouth. that’s why even if the allegations are false i still personally wouldn’t support him because of how he handled the situation.
oop didn’t finish the video but that wording still left a bad taste even if he didn’t mean for it to read like that
You know most of the stays didn't even hate him bec of that, they hate him of what he did to the members, y'all still remembered when skz cried bcs of him? Thinking they weren't enough and want to prove their selves even more? The levanter era when it's already planned on nov. But suddenly got move out on dec cuz he left and skz have to redo all of that? When Jisung Doesn't wanna make music anymore? Jisung hiatus because 2019 is too much for him? Levanter album redo and hi stay on london when in fact the albums are done? Skz2020 album that full of ot8 ver. And W being cutted off the thumbnails of their mv? Yeah the accusations of that twitter accs cannot be true but think about what he did to kids. Sometimes Woojin's fans can't see it cuz they think woojin left the group because of hate. We don't know anything but when the first vlive as ot8 you can see the sad on their face, the betrayal especially for Chan. For me he's still not innocent nit because of that accusations but for the kids and that's why Woojin stans shouldn't assume that all stays hates him because of that rumor. How about the stays who hates him because of broken promises and betrayal? Yep