What happens when Solarbacca plays 100% MECHANICALLY PERFECTLY against Spear Shot in Korea..

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  • @tapioca6863
    @tapioca6863 9 місяців тому +62

    Spear being hella toxic to himself when he makes a mistake or miss Qs is just such a mood😌

  • @lewississ
    @lewississ 9 місяців тому +49

    Spearshot's influence is so strong, one Vod and you start talking like him @22:18

    • @Mvgical
      @Mvgical 9 місяців тому +3

      That's how odablock is lol

  • @businesslozano3590
    @businesslozano3590 9 місяців тому +8

    Hearing pants say “ANYWHOS” made my day. amazing video love the attention spear has been getting. Love the commentary pants

  • @bifrostengaged1371
    @bifrostengaged1371 9 місяців тому +12

    30% on target armor reduction is always better than 15ad, especially after durability update last year. There is an argument about ravenous having the highest ad and adding cleave damage but then again being pantheon requires at least some hp so its kinda out of the question

  • @seanboglio3605
    @seanboglio3605 9 місяців тому +8

    Pants commentary is just like loading screen tips in games.

    • @bruuuh4980
      @bruuuh4980 4 місяці тому

      I hear it but I'm not even listening lmao.

  • @tadk1312
    @tadk1312 9 місяців тому +19

    You always go black cleaver on panth, not only because you can instant stack it on whoever your w (which is the person your team will burst down) it also makes you deal almost always the most damage because of pantheon R passive which gives % armor pen + black cleaver % shred + lethality from mythic = almost true dmg to any squishies and even someone who just got tabis gets melted so ye.

    • @luigidragon
      @luigidragon  9 місяців тому +9

      Problem is black cleaver + % armor pen with eclipse and pantheon r passive is diminishing returns so its worthless
      Game should be designed that shojin is good as a 2nd item into squishies not black cleaver is just staple everytime which means shojin needs a buff
      But he's against squidhies anyways so % armor shred is useless

    • @alexionut.05
      @alexionut.05 9 місяців тому +12

      ​@@luigidragon There are marginally any diminishing returns with % armor pen. For the following test I will assume one or two 30% Armor Pen/Shred items (for example: Serylda and/or Cleaver, as this is a relatively popular combo). Two 30% Armor Pen/Shred items effectively mean 51% less armor (1 - 0.7 * 0.7). We will assume a 1000AD attack against a 100 Armor target.
      With 100 armor, post-mitigation damage will be 1000 * (100 / (100 + 100)) = 1000 * 1/2 = 500AD.
      With 30% Armor Pen/Shred, armor is now effectively 70, post-mitigation damage will be 1000 * (100 / (100 + 70)) = 1000 * 10/17 = 588,24AD.
      With 51% Armor Pen/Shred, armor is now effectively 49, post-mitigation damage will be 1000 * (100 / (100 + 49)) = 1000 * 100/149 = 671,15AD.
      30% Armor Pen/Shred will deal 17% more damage than with 0% Armor Pen/Shread:
      588,24 * 100 / 500 = 117,65%
      51% Armor Pen/Shred will deal 14% more damage than with 30% Armor Pen/Shred:
      671,15 * 100 / 588,24 = 114,09%
      So we are not losing that much, and calling it "worthless" is a huge stretch. The more % Armor Pen/Shred you have, the more Lethality is worth, and vice-versa. And with Eclipse sporting such a low 12 Lethality, having a healthy amound of Armor Pen/Shred is definitely not a bad idea.
      Of course, not every target will have 100 armor, but I find it a nice middle ground that simplifies calculations, also most champions beyond a level, if they have Tabi's, Zhonya's or tank items, they will reach or even surpass this number. The more armor they will have, the more worth armor pen will be, and the less armor they have, the more worth lethality will be, obviously.

    • @spaceglidinmio2388
      @spaceglidinmio2388 9 місяців тому +17

      @@luigidragon the point with pantheon on cleaver is that his E can fully stack the passive on the entire enemy team
      that's the spear shot explaination ^^

    • @tadk1312
      @tadk1312 9 місяців тому +2

      @@luigidragon well the other guy said it and also the bc shred for your entire team fits pantheons role so well, in any skirmish, midgame or lategame teamfigth it helps so much to burst that one target down. And yes bc is also just a better item but I think pantheon just benefits more from it, not in an isolated duel scenario or dps test but overall it fits better and reducing the armor by another 21% makes the lethality that much better. Im at work rn and cant test it but im sure bc (+mythic) almost always deals more damage in a single combo + you wont always drop to 33% hp (esp. because of e) so you will guarantee full bc movement speed passive but not shojins which is important because you need to back out after your combo. I know spear used to run shojin on duskblade pantheon for 1v9 demon build wich felt great because having up e and w that much earlier allowed you to just kill all 5 enemies in quick succesion.

    • @Ouail98
      @Ouail98 8 місяців тому

      @@alexionut.05arm pen from passive doesn’t multiply with arm pen of items

  • @ahmedtahri7109
    @ahmedtahri7109 9 місяців тому +55

    "when Solarbacca plays 100% PERFECTLY against Spear Shot in Korea" and he loses

    • @CaptainBlackbeard91
      @CaptainBlackbeard91 9 місяців тому +6

      gp is not a solo carry champ, u can t control your "teammates"

    • @ajtarub1966
      @ajtarub1966 9 місяців тому

      we know its just the tumbnail is very wrong and lazy no wonder pants fell off lazy ah content creator massive L @@CaptainBlackbeard91

    • @naranka41
      @naranka41 9 місяців тому +4

      @@CaptainBlackbeard91ya gp is very good sup champ

    • @ahmedtahri7109
      @ahmedtahri7109 9 місяців тому

      @@CaptainBlackbeard91 I mean he lost lane also

    • @luigidragon
      @luigidragon  9 місяців тому +30

      @ajtarub1966 uhh I can't tell if ur trolling or ur stuoid
      I also took a shit in your backyard yesterday my apolgoies

  • @FowlPointOfView
    @FowlPointOfView 9 місяців тому

    "wait, did i pick the right video?" pants are dragon on most vods LOL

  • @Ruji001
    @Ruji001 8 місяців тому

    Pants u need to watch more Solarbacca vods fam u will be impressed on how good he is on GP if he loses a lane due to teammates he will come back and solo carry the game.

  • @Axel-jv8wb
    @Axel-jv8wb 9 місяців тому +2

    Malzhar, malphite, nocturne, darius, leblanc are all counters if you know how to play but pantheon scale really good agaisnt them

  • @hugodeplagne5029
    @hugodeplagne5029 8 місяців тому

    Is there any way to mute Spear shot ?

  • @been4277
    @been4277 9 місяців тому +3

    Black cleaver armor shred on whole team with e... Thats why

  • @JON-hi8nk
    @JON-hi8nk 9 місяців тому +16

    Panth only gets completely countered by nasus and tryn. Any juggernaut, malph, and GP are also difficult matchups. When ppl see spear destroying all these players its not bc panth is broken, its bc they have no panth matchup knowledge and spear is mechanically great

    • @Lordjunimon
      @Lordjunimon 9 місяців тому +7

      Pantheon is one of GP counters, he can trade really well, can dive, his stun cd is lower than orange and also scales pretty strong.
      Gp has to put way more effort to win the lane or even it out

    • @pendyalaabhishek8866
      @pendyalaabhishek8866 9 місяців тому

      gp hard match up for panth? . they dont know pantheon match up knowledge when they are challenger players ?? . lol bruh u donno what u are talkin . the champions that win vs panth are bruisers who can all in on him with summoners with 100% hp , pantheon does 2 combos and every one goes

    • @Lordjunimon
      @Lordjunimon 9 місяців тому +1

      @@pendyalaabhishek8866 Read properly, I said Pantheon COUNTERS GP not the way around.
      Gp has to go into stun range to poke with Q, his only option is barrels which may not be enough, Solar landed 3 barrels b4 lvl 3 and it barely dropped Spear below 50%, had Solar walked up to passive proc he would've 100% lost that trade dats why the match up is harder for gp.
      That is, of course in a even level of skill, both Spear and Solar know very well how the match up goes, if the Pantheon is dumbo then he can very easily lose this lane and get stomped, same way around.

    • @codysoutherland5027
      @codysoutherland5027 9 місяців тому

      @@pendyalaabhishek8866”build tank to counter pantheon”. Bruh. He’s got passive 30% pen at 16 plus eclipse plus cleaver plus Bork. As a pantheon otp I can promise you no tank wins after one item if you rush cleaver. After 3 items, there’s no chance.

    • @ponytail-cg8kj
      @ponytail-cg8kj 6 місяців тому

      Man, just... what kind of bronze are you in? Isn't the Pantheon created for people who have crooked arms? He's bad at teamfights but this piece of shit is literally impossible to kill 1v1

  • @GENERALx5H4DY
    @GENERALx5H4DY 8 місяців тому

    pants "i dont know any other gp player" tobias crying in the corner

  • @dabasil
    @dabasil 9 місяців тому +6

    From 1:54 to 22:18, he has converted

  • @Sylgerr
    @Sylgerr 8 місяців тому +1

    No counters to Pantheon ? I thought everyone is a Pantheon's counter when mid game reached 😊

  • @charlie190789com
    @charlie190789com 8 місяців тому

    22:42 thresh was a god here wtf

  • @Ouail98
    @Ouail98 8 місяців тому

    Did you just say pantheonpantheon has sustain? 💀

  • @tonytube32
    @tonytube32 9 місяців тому

    6:36 I've done well against Pantheon as Poppy and Rumble.

  • @scarlettwriter7428
    @scarlettwriter7428 9 місяців тому

    i miss pants are news

  • @manmancezar6604
    @manmancezar6604 9 місяців тому

    Poppy is a good counter

  • @carolheiderman8700
    @carolheiderman8700 9 місяців тому +3

    Im curious to see spear on a different champ. Hes eventually going to get champ locked most of his games. Id love to see him on an ult. Is his tempo the same?.

    • @gloccc4080
      @gloccc4080 9 місяців тому +6

      Sometimes hes playing Jayce .

    • @PosesV
      @PosesV 9 місяців тому +1

      i saw him go ham on aatrox

    • @yaseenyahya
      @yaseenyahya 9 місяців тому

      He plays Poppy

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 9 місяців тому +6

      he's not just a one trick, if anything he's actually better at cs'ing on other champs xD

    • @carolheiderman8700
      @carolheiderman8700 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mwbwyatt the irony is rich with this one lol. I had never heard of him until recently and only ever seen panth games.
      His tempo is godlike though so I could see him being an absolute problem on aatrox.

  • @kidsam27
    @kidsam27 9 місяців тому

    It's blaber on Diana, funny how you ignored it.

  • @jessehickey4686
    @jessehickey4686 9 місяців тому

    New title: what happens when solarbaccas mid and bot lanes int against spearshots team.

  • @breeee1998
    @breeee1998 8 місяців тому

    Shojin sucks as a 2nd item no matter the team comp, you always want your core items like edge of night and maw before even thinking of Sojin,and at this time I think Pantheon always builds cleaver because of the hp and armour shred

  • @sebastianbarbu8691
    @sebastianbarbu8691 8 місяців тому

    Yorick is so good against panth

  • @fkim8449
    @fkim8449 9 місяців тому

    Rammus vs pantheon don't know

  • @davidnymann5423
    @davidnymann5423 9 місяців тому

    Is pants the only one of these streamers that isnt always on amphetamines?

  • @glazz6357
    @glazz6357 8 місяців тому

    What counters Pantheon? A lot of champs
    The real question is What counters Spearshot?

    • @ponytail-cg8kj
      @ponytail-cg8kj 6 місяців тому

      Man, this piece of shit literally closes most of the matchups on the top, he's sick

  • @falbax7660
    @falbax7660 9 місяців тому

    Team diff.

  • @oyammas6950
    @oyammas6950 9 місяців тому +1

    heimer is huge panth counter

  • @Damian_h
    @Damian_h 9 місяців тому

    rammus can probably stop panth his w is toxic af.

  • @akalin3319
    @akalin3319 9 місяців тому +1

    Lang D GP > Solarbacca :)

    • @pendyalaabhishek8866
      @pendyalaabhishek8866 9 місяців тому +3

      nah Lang D plays in china which is like not even third best region for competitive league . solar hit challenger in every server . he climbed a rank in a day in koriean server has like 67% winrate challenger .solar soo carried on ap gp , tank gp , bruiser gp , hybrid gp and crit gp . now who is better gp.

  • @Eeepppzzz
    @Eeepppzzz 9 місяців тому

    First

  • @viktordolenga5490
    @viktordolenga5490 9 місяців тому +1

    "I don't know any better GP player then Solobacca..." HEY! And what about Tobias Fate?!! Duhhh

  • @miodozer4678
    @miodozer4678 9 місяців тому

    riven counters pantheon

  • @miodozer4678
    @miodozer4678 9 місяців тому +1

    Mangki u dont know? mom sky

  • @wargumbyx
    @wargumbyx 9 місяців тому +2

    goes to show in game means nothing solarbacca made a critical mistake before the game started. he picked a weaker, harder champ into a stronger easier champ. league is based on champ select not skill

    • @pendyalaabhishek8866
      @pendyalaabhishek8866 9 місяців тому +3

      well you are semi correct , panth and tryndmere counters gp soo hard bcause gp is a burst dmg champion and they can avoid lot of dmg with their kits and that is why solar could not win this match up , but do not underestimate gp dmg , gp with ignite can actually even solo kill a darius or any other strong toplaner with his passive reset mechanic .. and i remember solar sayin he has 67% winrate in challenger , im pretty sure spear shot winrate is no where near solars. and gp is a scling champ so dying once is fine ,but his team is loosing too so he lost.

    • @wargumbyx
      @wargumbyx 9 місяців тому

      @@pendyalaabhishek8866 the joke is that the game is entirely based on champ select just like the warcraft 3 custom map its cloned from. its why if you watch any streamer for example take only challenger or gm streamers, they never complain about "this player is so good they make x champ look broken" its x champ is broken... because (some excluded) they know inherently having played thousands of games, that some ability is too fast or too low cd or high damage or easy to land...etc but the instant you say its based on champ select not skill..NOPE JUST GET BETTER NOOB!! but skill doesnt matter that is why pick/ban exists not blind pick in ranked. it is why riot keeps more champs broken than can be banned to force games to end. this is a practice the started decades ago in the name of making games more exciting for the viewer and it started with rng being put in to change the outcome regardless of skill, then it just continued to compound as what makes money gets more attention than what doesnt. so you end up with games like world of warcraft in shadowlands where in the final season combat rogues were so blatantly imbalanced that 90% of teams had 1 or more rogues on the team.... and it was left in for the entire season because balance doesnt matter. lower skill caps factors out of your control create a higher pool of top players and a more exciting viewing experience to try to make the game seem more e-sport viable

    • @rayoune49
      @rayoune49 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pendyalaabhishek8866 gp is a poke champ for most of the game, not a burst dmg champ dude

    • @larghedoggo9607
      @larghedoggo9607 8 місяців тому

      Lane phase a poke champ, until 2 items you can sort of burst.

  • @guidomista9197
    @guidomista9197 9 місяців тому +1

    doesnt rammus top counter pantheon :,). maybe i just watched to much baus

    • @petercserkuthy3292
      @petercserkuthy3292 9 місяців тому

      And sion too, proxy is so op vs lanebully champs cus u just ignire laneing, ofc jg ll kill u but that is a trade off (u hope that your jg dive bot ir mid ir smth during that time)

  • @tweddy9111
    @tweddy9111 9 місяців тому

    Zeus GP>solarbacca

    • @pendyalaabhishek8866
      @pendyalaabhishek8866 9 місяців тому +1

      nah zeus builds tryforce on and he relies o team soo much . solar solo carries with gp which zeus never did .

    • @tweddy9111
      @tweddy9111 9 місяців тому

      @@pendyalaabhishek8866 pro games>solo q. no one understands this when looking at these solo q degens

  • @No-cn3dr
    @No-cn3dr 9 місяців тому +1

    LukiSteve is better then Solarbacca

  • @shiestyworld218
    @shiestyworld218 9 місяців тому

    smear isnt the best pantheon in the world. keegun is.

    • @codysoutherland5027
      @codysoutherland5027 9 місяців тому +1

      False lol. Keeg is best NA maybe but spear is top 80+ in Korea as ONLY pantheon. He single handedly fixed the WR of the champ in that server within a month, and mechanically is much better. Keegun is great, and I love his content, but he is definitely not the best pantheon in the world.

    • @carlosmedrano6868
      @carlosmedrano6868 8 місяців тому

      Nop

  • @virashakta
    @virashakta 8 місяців тому

    I like your videos , but can you turn off the sound of this guy , is the most annoying guy to listen to

  • @ajtarub1966
    @ajtarub1966 9 місяців тому

    Wrong tumbnail Dislike for sure