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The problem was that he wasn't smart enough to fully understand what he was experiencing. It's a shame that he never met Dr. Gene Ray so that he could explain to him that he was experiencing TIME CUBE.
Phillip K Dick is another pseudo-philosopher who did the "hanging out with aliens" thing and was one of the earliest mainstream advocates for SIM theory.
@@timbreakradio You'd be amazed how many drugs, at one time or another on their great journey to their recipient consumers, have been in god's back pocket.
@@porteal8986 Least interesting and least significant. It was more of a flippant, oh this is cool kind of thing. Very sad this youtuber misses Terence’s greatest teaching.
Lol. I quite like Joe... Terence McKenna was certainly an oddity. For years, I couldn't really listen to him, but I eventually found that once you get past his strange voice and mannerisms, he's really quite interesting. One of the things that emerges from his philosophy is that altered states take you outside of culture, which (in a different way, of course) is where we were before we developed language. That's in line with various philosophers who wondered whether language elucidates, or rather in fact tends to mystify, the concepts it attempts to examine... We can end up 'exploring' a prison cell and 'escaping' a vast uncharted landscape... Surely some mistake, Mister Spock? :)
@@Microtherion Not where we were before language. A tragic mistake of language. Culture is a linguistically fabricated illusion constructed through language as a medium.
Just a minor quip, McKenna didn't think early humans ate cow poop, just that we would have likely been following the herds of cows and come across the mushrooms growing out of their shit. Good video though!
Minor correction, he was actually talking about early primates and that they would get protein by flipping over cow turds to eat bugs on them (and that's when we ran into mushrooms that would also grow there)
@@zyern2822 Yeah, stoned ape theory is so frequently misunderstood. Just. Listen. I know a lot of the YT monologues are pretty lengthy, but if you listen you won't sound so ignorant all the time about his ideas.
Hunter gatherers and survivors to this day squish animal poo to get water and drink it where no other sources are easily available, so I still think it fits into a bigger image. But yes, what you are saying is right, Terrence only ever claimed it is a possibility and a valid hypothesis that when our environments changed and our ancestors found themselves following the herds, they would have needed different food sources and the mushrooms growing on their dung would have been a prime contender for trying out.
He was probably one of the greatest orators in history. His use of language during his talks was nothing short of incredible to me. His theories true or not, he's the closest I've come to understand when I listen someone speak, a true artist of words no less!
Personally I wouldn't take the "message" of psychedelic drugs as literally as "hi I am an elf and I'm real" but it can definitely teach you things like gratitude, the disillusionment of ego, the realization that we are part of the universe and not a separate thing (feeling of connectedness) etc. Also it's pretty cool to know how weird your brain can get ;)
@Daniel Jangthanong You're not just your brain, since your body (its needs, senses, abilities, shape, etc) has an vast influence on what your brain does. And beyond that, your environment influences what your brain/body do. And of course your brain/body has its influence on your immediate environment. Add to this that by consuming food/excreting waste and our bodies constantly rebuilding themselves using externally-sourced nutrients, the dividing line between an organism and its environment becomes kinda fuzzy. So really we're all components in grand systems (family, society, ecosystem, the universe) that shape us/are shaped by us in a dialectical way.
So let me get this straigh this dude thaught that aliens millions of years ago created magic mushrooms so that humans could talk to robot aliens and the gods? Sounds like my type of guy
@@danielworldwidewebwidetech1163 dont question absurdity instead allow yourself to become one with it and come up with even more absurd things e.g. if a person says the moon landing was faked then return with "well of course it was faked nasa uses atmospheric refraction and big lights to fake the night sky, if the planets where real you wouldnt be able to see them because earth doesnt glow so neither shouls the so called "planets" "
This also strengthens the fact that enlightenment will be achieved when the bible is perceived in the literal sense. In Dan Brown's book, it was stated that when Jesus said "the holy spirit resides/lives in us" if taken literally - it means there is God in us. Idk where to go with this but hoping this connects with the main idea and I assume I know what the main topic/issue is from the main context of the original commenter. Personally - I believe a strong will is enough and believing in yourself than reliance over something that has no reliable scientific explanation is more likely, that said, I am not saying I am against religion or Christianity but I state that I like the idea more about it which is - "believing in yourself is power over everything that controls your fate", sufficiently. But do not mind this personal opinion of mine, please state and go back to my first paragraph reply if you'd like a basis in an argument with me.
@@JohnP-VFX "believing in yourself is powerful over everything that controls your fate" I'm not gonna call right from wrong here, but that is what Satanism is based on.
I think a part of how religion is started is with people questioning everything. "I don't know who created anything or what is real, but I know I exist so then I must've been a part in that creating. Cause why else would I exist, why would I be here? If I ask who made this universe on my own, I'm the only one responding. Seems pretty legit" and thus Jesus started the first cult (If this in any shape or form offends you, I'm not even gonna talk to you so don't bother) Feel free to discuss and poke holes in my logic tho, I love that shit
@@catcat4697 thank you, I wasn't aware that satanism is based on being motivated through life and its weirdness. I have 3 takes here and yes, that sentence about satanism is provoking as psychologically, misunderstanding someone and then firing out a sentence that is structured to not poke into the person up front is the best way to manipulate a conversation as we could take this intellectually and argue but you see, we each hold a different standpoint and each idea is dangerous to the normal masses so Yeah, I'll back down. I see no point in continuing this other than harming and misleading others. I, though, believe that I have arrived at that idea for I studied what satanism and other spiritual belief/idea/concept(religion and world religions) and safe to say, I'm not a satanist and don't see myself becoming one in the near future as to what popular media has defined "satanism" is (to clear my point) Thank you, I admire and I adore intellectual pursuit of truth and such arguments that are both full of wisdom is a treasure trove. (Though the other thing you riled me about is that you seem to imply something to my character tying me to satanism and implying I might be one. but no, I just studied it along with other kinds of religions because I was just curious. Curious enough to know I should and I am human and retain that and know my limits but overall, it was nice to know that motivation is an element from satanism - you know - believing in yourself gives you power and stuff, I kinda understand where you got it, movies about demons have that take, as for me, I have demonology and theology to keep me in the know about this, but not much, you see - I just picked the book and read whatever that quenches my curiosity)
Man Terrences academic career was so much more than that. He reveiwed the evolution of different cultures all over the world and made connections between what drugs were accepted in the culture and how they turned out over hundreds and thousands of years regarding their collective values, repressions, problems and religious practices. The man was a genius in a way thats never been seen before or since.
Dude ive been a huge Terence Mckenna fan since i discovered him (and psyxhedelics) 2 years. Never expected your channel to do a video on him but I should have seen this coming after the excellent Huxley video you made couple weeks ago. Keep up the great work!
“Hanging out with aliens” is intense as hell. Not sure how people like Terrence managed to do it so regularly. But he sure did manage to retain a lot more than I did and spoke about it so eloquently. Gone too soon.
The experiences are like life. When you begin, you're a newborn, awestruck, and with no ability to do anything other than to witness in shock. However, as you go back multiple times, you "grow up" as you might say. It might start with a moment of telepathic communication with the entity, or as them giving you some sort of gesture (a thumbs up is a common one for me), but eventually, you will be able to communicate with them in what I can only describe as totally correct and normal human English (I speak English). It took me 30+ breakthrough trips, but slowly I began to learn how to navigate the experience and communicate with the entities. I've had many more trips since then where I and the entity could communicate and I was able to bring back their specific teachings. tldr; It's all practice, just keep smoking it, and push your dose higher as often as you think you can.
@@TheiPotter They're usually trying to show me the illusory nature of the self, with an emphasis on its consequences for free will (or the lack thereof). That suffering is just the struggle to 'do' when nothing can truly be 'done'. It tends to be Buddhist teachings. As for the spoken English, I have an example where a very loud voice shouted the words at me "This is not you! None of this is you!" They've also given me a lot of practical advice about how to navigate the DMT space
I checked it out, is he an artist or just a channel? Are those his original works and if so is it secretly Sisyphus in disguise lol? Because Housecat has like no followers lol
Thank you friend! Its nice to see other people that are interested in similar topics be so jolly. I bet you have the humor of a Mr. David Hume, lively and cheerful.
I have come to understand, through psychedelic use, the study of psychological sciences and a vast array of spiritual practices that there is a spiritual realm that exists, Jung refers to this as the collective subconscious. The closest place we can get to accessing this realm sober is in our dreams. But through the use of psychoactive drugs these murky concepts start to feel more defined, both with visual and mental clarity. Most religions are ancient teachings aimed to define the strange aspects of this subconscious realm. These entities that one meets, particularly in DMT, comes eerily close to the descriptions of ancient gods in Hinduism, and ancient Egyptian &Greek mythos, to give a few examples. Christianity is archaic in this sense because it teaches these things to be "false idols". And to only to worship the ONE "God", which i understand as the overwhelming force of interconnected love and peace that you might experience in an ego death on psychedelics. The acceptance to use psychedelics, not to engage with other entities, spirits and gods, but to use it to get close to THE all knowing and THE all loving is quite separate to most religions with the exception of Buddhism, and even the Christianity we know today. But i believe it's the truth of what the bible was getting at all those years ago. And to this day offering a lot of knowledge and wisdom that we psychonauts could gain a lot from engaging in.
I haven't read the whole thing, but I'd like to disagree. For example, we are creatures of this (3) dimension, and those "entities" are just visual effects we have. If a blind person takes DMT, I doubt he will have any of these visions. He might have distorted sounds or feelings, yet it merely proves my point that we are the slaves of our existence and surroundings. Dreams also seem to reflect our inner emotional state. About the collective subconscious, I'm convinced that it's simply a common sense that can be completely demolished into pieces by psychology along with human behaviour and neuropsychology
Temirlan Kasmaliev sure, but I would argue that a blind person would still experience “entities” through other senses. Sight is not the only sense to play in higher consciousness. I agree that we are ‘slaves to our existence” in the sense that we are restricted to our own individual lens of perception. Which makes it impossible to really measure, compare or make absolute deductions about these experiences. What I’m getting at is that, there is a part of our reality that we can’t explore with our own logic. Even the field of behavioural psychology is quite clear that we don’t quite understand dreams or consciousness without being reductionist. So why not engage with the idea that there’s a realm beyond our understanding?
Bec Ravioli there is always something we don’t know, information can have no end...and maybe there infinite layers of everything. So, we have to go by what we have applying reductionism. I’ve recently read Chaos by Gleick. Incredible book. Logic for me is as if knowledge consists of relevant truths to be objective; we merely have to figure it out. Does something exist without us knowing that it exists? I think it should.
@Vardaan Vardhan God don't real, I just think math helps us understand what makes the environment and space around us. Humans will likely never know exactly how we came into being, but to say a higher power was behind it just seems silly. To me, I think the big bang happened as a result of neutron, and proton energies colliding.
Correct, when the part of your brain that tries to detect agency misfires due to high levels of neuronal activity from the mushrooms, you tend to personify your experiences. Ancient cultures would have described it as gods or demons or something else in that space. Describing it as aliens is the modern Western framing of the same underlying phenomena. Joe Rogan is exploring that space and is using the same framing because he has look into Terence McKenna's work.
@@WillofTH no, but I have dropped acid twice. Both times I was overwhelmed and it left me in a terrifying mind space. the first time, I saw a butterfly as I was sitting on my porch. At first I was consumed by the beauty and youth of nature. Then it seemed that there were 2 butterflys, and I was swept with a feeling of love and unity. But then it occured to me that perhaps there was only one butterfly, and the second was simply an illusion or color trail. I was overcome with a sense of anguish and solitude. I cried and was encompassed by despair. All night when I tried to sleep I saw demons when I closed my eyes, horror is not enough to describe what I suffered through. The next day I went to my family grave site and cried all day feeling utterly alone, terrified and helpless. Psychedelics are not for the weak of mind, or those suffering from mental illness, as I realized too late.
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Well done, Sisyphus. Clever presentation and fine distillation of the breadth and depth of what Terence shared with the world. For a sequel if you so endeavor: A singular distinction for him was his sense of humor and his linguistic mastery - which is often a signal of the truly wisest among us (re: James Joyce is his favorite writer). Cheers.
Also - the citing of reportedly violent cultures who have shamanic traditions as "negating" his theory of a peaceful prehistoric partnership culture with a shamanic tradition is a non-sequitur.
I would love to see you do a video on Robert Anton Wilson. I think you'd find his contributions (while not necessarily philosophical) quite interesting.
I love your videos but the fact that the question mark at the beginning is always slightly off-centre is really bugging me haha. Keep up the good work tho, its probably an aesthetic choice and i respect that. Cheers
The idea what "life is weird" is exactly why i love this channel. So many philosophers and thinkers seeing the world in their own eyes all with different conclusions and theories. I do believe that the world is much more than just the ordinary that has been drilled into us. The whole "go to school, go to college, get a job, get married" pipeline is nothing more than a structure that many people are too scared to break since it's kinda the only life most know. There's people who believe that certain rocks have the power to suck up bad emotions and stuff, i've come to the conclusion that we're all our own worlds and that life is kinda this equal ground to share ideas and how we see things. Rocks with magic powers? I don't really see it but life is weird and it's real to others. It's like we're all radios that can pick up various frequencies, some pick up some and others don't. At least that how i've come to see things. Still trying to understand things y'know
In the book True Hallucinations (1994), McKenna explains that they weren't mixing mushrooms with Ayahuasca, but instead only one component of the Ayahuasca brew, the monoamine oxidase inhibitor Banisteriopsis caapi, which he supposedly smoked.
Notably, Terence also had such a horrific mushroom trip that he ended up swearing off of them for good l. Only occasionally taking ayahuasca usually with a shaman
McKenna was and is a genius. Was he mildly broken by the psychedelics?.......Yes, but he was also WILDLY curious, imaginative, open, creative, perceptive, verbally skilled, and funny. Of all the humans I've read about, and listened to, Terence is among the top, easily. I wish his brand of humble limitless seeking was more common. Until then i will continue to go to sleep nightly, listening to his talks.
As a thinker and bard I love him. He was such an eloquent person and fully captivates every drop of your attention. Althrough he was a bit off on some of his theories I doubt there will be a more interesting mind to listen to in the psychadelic space.
I like this guy. Most philosophers like to act like they are on the path to Truth through their specific system of reason. This guy seems to just be like "yo, shit's weird, so why do you all discredit everyone else? There's a lot that could be true, but who's to say we're on the path to Truth right now?"
maybe that's abductive reasoning you prefer, however inductive and deductive reasoning must take place too. I'd say they are even a better choice mostly in order to prove your point.
Mckenna seems to have modeled his idea of the archaic revival after Gebser's idea of integrated consciousness. Gebser's book is called The Ever Present Origin. It may be worth being on your radar.
Within the stoned ape theory the idea is not that early humanoids would eat cow dung but follow herds of wild cattle tracking their dung and find appetizing mushrooms along the way.
I resonate so much with the idea that the universe is being pulled towards an end goal. I have this feeling as though human life was intentional it is so bizarre compared to any other conglomeration of atoms out there, in fact its the only conglomeration of atoms that has figured out its a conglomeration of atoms.
A small factual mistake was around 6:18 when you spoke of Terence’s idea pertaining to earlier humans following ungulate animals to eat the dung of those cattle, this is untrue. Terence said he supposed based on ape behaviour that they search for bugs and other rich protein sources BENEATH the dung pile. Great video, I just had to add that for accuracy. Cheers
Hey! I really like your videos on the life of philosophers. Do you think it would be possible to include more info about what age they were when they did certain things? For me personally this paints a better picture about the pace of their lives.
well done, brother. yet another great video and a particularly interesting addition alongside the more traditional, classic philosophers normally featured. as terrance McKenna fan I would just like to point out that his many wacky and even silly ideas have served me just as well as many more plausible explanations of our place in the universe. his ideas, even when they were wrong, always encouraged humans to treat each other with kindness and compassion and to take care of the environment (and its been fun hanging out with aliens too).
I had no idea you’d made a Terence McKenna vid, really interesting stuff. I’m a big fan if you can’t already tell from my pfp. Something about his way of thinking and speaking is deeply inspiring to me, even if some of his theories were a little dubious.
This missed a lot of the key points behind McKenna's philosophy, namely Riane Eisler's work which influenced so much of his. He believed, rightly, that psychedelics can dissolve the individual, masculine ego, effectively "feminizing" societies -- and as scary as this may sound to many men, it's what's needed to drag us out of this Hell. Riane Eisler's book The Chalice and the Blade offers a revolutionary view of anthropology that points to a past in which our ancestors lived in harmony with Nature and one another. This is what McKenna meant by an "archaic revival," not a return to Freud or the early 20th century in general. No, he was looking back roughly 6000 years, when Minoan Crete fell and the last of what Eisler calls "partnership" cultures was destroyed, plunging humanity into the darkness that is our current "dominator" model for societies, in which the Earth is subjugated, divided, and destroyed in the names of profit and war. Regardless of what you think of the Time Wave or McKenna's more fringe ideas, to ignore his feminism, rooted in a wish to return us to a state of partnership, is to miss the entire point of his philosophical career.
One little nitpick and just to be clear that my intentions are not to berate you, but the whole "our ancestors living in harmony with nature" is a logical fallacy in its own right. You could argue right now that we are in harmony with nature by following our biological programming which is consume, reproduce, and learn about the world and our inner selves. Also even though I know you didn't specifically that nature is good, I almost made the mistake of misinterpreting and assuming the living in harmony with nature is good. I was going to mention that living with nature isn't arguably the most efficient and best way to maximize the wellbeing of others as living in the wilderness can easily lead to lots of suffering. Being naked and frolicking in the woods is pretty natural but so is being mauled by a bear or getting sick. I guess my point would be that, don't assume because flowers are pretty and so are animals, that we should be living amongst them like that the only right way to live in harmony with the universe.
I think that Terrence did what so many do in the pursuit of knowledge, he blinded himself with it and on that fateful day when he experienced unknowable terror I believe that he came face to face with a metaphorical incarnation of his own self taught ignorance. It came to him as a demon, a being of unfathomable power that was convincing enough to shut down his deeper search for answers. He often used to boast about not believing in anything, this is not so, he believed whole heartedly in that which he could convince himself was unshakable truth. On a positive note this drove him to present his message with passion, a passion deep enough that it got people listening. The dark side that we all know is that by convincing himself of certain truths he unknowingly magnified over time a very uncomfortable potentiality when it comes to mushrooms. We all know it and fear it and hate it but it's what sinks in when the fun takes a vacation. That aggravated, paranoid sense of dread that some experience during a come up or after long term use. It's just my opinion but I think that feeling comes from making the mistake of thinking that you've figured it out. Mushrooms do not seem to enjoy human attempts at figuring them out and just the tiniest bit of hubris can act like poison in the well. Instead, I would strongly suggest that anyone using them for the purpose of bringing information back and breaking it down for people to do so with caution because what you are getting is a serialized packet of information that takes months to decode from it's storage within your subconscious mind. Trying to just "figure it out" makes about as much sense as downloading a zipped folder and trying to discern the entirety of it's contents while it is still compressed. May McKenna rest in peace but to all that follow, be smarter than your ego or one day it will visit you, as it did him, with the most discordant thing imaginable, a mirror.
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The problem was that he wasn't smart enough to fully understand what he was experiencing. It's a shame that he never met Dr. Gene Ray so that he could explain to him that he was experiencing TIME CUBE.
Phillip K Dick is another pseudo-philosopher who did the "hanging out with aliens" thing and was one of the earliest mainstream advocates for SIM theory.
Explain this in laymans terms this stuff yall spewing... sim what!!?? Come on!!
“Culture is not your friend”. &. “The truths doesn’t require your belief”. Brilliant man
The biggest problem with the ridge wallet, is where do I keep my drugs.
God's back pocket is there for a reason, my friend.
Youll have to quit everything but acid
@@dunningdunning4711 No one wants a tenth that has been 3 knuckles deep in my asshole
@@timbreakradio You'd be amazed how many drugs, at one time or another on their great journey to their recipient consumers, have been in god's back pocket.
@@dunningdunning4711 I hope they changed the baggies atleast. Who am I kidding they probably didn't
Terence’s teachings that “culture is not your friend” is actually his greatest achievement. But would deserve a video unto itself.
I like that idea
yea, the stoned ape theory get's so much attention, but it was one of his least interesting ideas
@@porteal8986 Least interesting and least significant. It was more of a flippant, oh this is cool kind of thing. Very sad this youtuber misses Terence’s greatest teaching.
Lol. I quite like Joe... Terence McKenna was certainly an oddity. For years, I couldn't really listen to him, but I eventually found that once you get past his strange voice and mannerisms, he's really quite interesting. One of the things that emerges from his philosophy is that altered states take you outside of culture, which (in a different way, of course) is where we were before we developed language.
That's in line with various philosophers who wondered whether language elucidates, or rather in fact tends to mystify, the concepts it attempts to examine... We can end up 'exploring' a prison cell and 'escaping' a vast uncharted landscape... Surely some mistake, Mister Spock? :)
@@Microtherion Not where we were before language. A tragic mistake of language. Culture is a linguistically fabricated illusion constructed through language as a medium.
Just a minor quip, McKenna didn't think early humans ate cow poop, just that we would have likely been following the herds of cows and come across the mushrooms growing out of their shit. Good video though!
Minor correction, he was actually talking about early primates and that they would get protein by flipping over cow turds to eat bugs on them (and that's when we ran into mushrooms that would also grow there)
@@zenchess last correction, this is exactly why people need to stop talking and just listen to the man lol
@@zyern2822 Yeah, stoned ape theory is so frequently misunderstood. Just. Listen. I know a lot of the YT monologues are pretty lengthy, but if you listen you won't sound so ignorant all the time about his ideas.
@@rajbhattacharya4427 I have ADHD and can even sit and listen to him talk
Hunter gatherers and survivors to this day squish animal poo to get water and drink it where no other sources are easily available, so I still think it fits into a bigger image.
But yes, what you are saying is right, Terrence only ever claimed it is a possibility and a valid hypothesis that when our environments changed and our ancestors found themselves following the herds, they would have needed different food sources and the mushrooms growing on their dung would have been a prime contender for trying out.
He was probably one of the greatest orators in history. His use of language during his talks was nothing short of incredible to me. His theories true or not, he's the closest I've come to understand when I listen someone speak, a true artist of words no less!
Absolutely!
He consumed heavy doses of cannabis (most likely high on cbd), I think that is related with his speech abilities
YES YES AND YES.
Personally I wouldn't take the "message" of psychedelic drugs as literally as "hi I am an elf and I'm real" but it can definitely teach you things like gratitude, the disillusionment of ego, the realization that we are part of the universe and not a separate thing (feeling of connectedness) etc. Also it's pretty cool to know how weird your brain can get ;)
@Daniel Jangthanong You're not just your brain, since your body (its needs, senses, abilities, shape, etc) has an vast influence on what your brain does. And beyond that, your environment influences what your brain/body do. And of course your brain/body has its influence on your immediate environment. Add to this that by consuming food/excreting waste and our bodies constantly rebuilding themselves using externally-sourced nutrients, the dividing line between an organism and its environment becomes kinda fuzzy. So really we're all components in grand systems (family, society, ecosystem, the universe) that shape us/are shaped by us in a dialectical way.
Great input, I didn't think of it that way. :)
I haven't watched, but I'm gonna say it's my boy Terence.
Yep,. before i started watching i said the same thing!
@Ben Somogyi i think Sisyphus 55 adds the names later than when he publishes
Ben Somogyi 😂
@Ben Somogyi bruh I came to say EXACTLY that haha
So let me get this straigh this dude thaught that aliens millions of years ago created magic mushrooms so that humans could talk to robot aliens and the gods? Sounds like my type of guy
That really hits a string
We always question absurdity
@@danielworldwidewebwidetech1163 dont question absurdity instead allow yourself to become one with it and come up with even more absurd things e.g. if a person says the moon landing was faked then return with "well of course it was faked nasa uses atmospheric refraction and big lights to fake the night sky, if the planets where real you wouldnt be able to see them because earth doesnt glow so neither shouls the so called "planets" "
@@darmblesvlogs that was beautiful 😍
@@bluijay4204 indeed
Basically, this philosopher had theory that states foundation of our religion were started by the drug. That makes sense.
This also gives Marx's statement of religion being "opium of the people" a damn literal meaning.
This also strengthens the fact that enlightenment will be achieved when the bible is perceived in the literal sense. In Dan Brown's book, it was stated that when Jesus said "the holy spirit resides/lives in us" if taken literally - it means there is God in us. Idk where to go with this but hoping this connects with the main idea and I assume I know what the main topic/issue is from the main context of the original commenter.
Personally - I believe a strong will is enough and believing in yourself than reliance over something that has no reliable scientific explanation is more likely, that said, I am not saying I am against religion or Christianity but I state that I like the idea more about it which is - "believing in yourself is power over everything that controls your fate", sufficiently. But do not mind this personal opinion of mine, please state and go back to my first paragraph reply if you'd like a basis in an argument with me.
@@JohnP-VFX "believing in yourself is powerful over everything that controls your fate"
I'm not gonna call right from wrong here, but that is what Satanism is based on.
I think a part of how religion is started is with people questioning everything. "I don't know who created anything or what is real, but I know I exist so then I must've been a part in that creating. Cause why else would I exist, why would I be here? If I ask who made this universe on my own, I'm the only one responding. Seems pretty legit" and thus Jesus started the first cult
(If this in any shape or form offends you, I'm not even gonna talk to you so don't bother)
Feel free to discuss and poke holes in my logic tho, I love that shit
@@catcat4697 thank you, I wasn't aware that satanism is based on being motivated through life and its weirdness. I have 3 takes here and yes, that sentence about satanism is provoking as psychologically, misunderstanding someone and then firing out a sentence that is structured to not poke into the person up front is the best way to manipulate a conversation as we could take this intellectually and argue but you see, we each hold a different standpoint and each idea is dangerous to the normal masses so Yeah, I'll back down. I see no point in continuing this other than harming and misleading others. I, though, believe that I have arrived at that idea for I studied what satanism and other spiritual belief/idea/concept(religion and world religions) and safe to say, I'm not a satanist and don't see myself becoming one in the near future as to what popular media has defined "satanism" is (to clear my point)
Thank you, I admire and I adore intellectual pursuit of truth and such arguments that are both full of wisdom is a treasure trove.
(Though the other thing you riled me about is that you seem to imply something to my character tying me to satanism and implying I might be one. but no, I just studied it along with other kinds of religions because I was just curious. Curious enough to know I should and I am human and retain that and know my limits but overall, it was nice to know that motivation is an element from satanism - you know - believing in yourself gives you power and stuff, I kinda understand where you got it, movies about demons have that take, as for me, I have demonology and theology to keep me in the know about this, but not much, you see - I just picked the book and read whatever that quenches my curiosity)
"Take it easy dude, but take it!"
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Man Terrences academic career was so much more than that. He reveiwed the evolution of different cultures all over the world and made connections between what drugs were accepted in the culture and how they turned out over hundreds and thousands of years regarding their collective values, repressions, problems and religious practices. The man was a genius in a way thats never been seen before or since.
Dude ive been a huge Terence Mckenna fan since i discovered him (and psyxhedelics) 2 years. Never expected your channel to do a video on him but I should have seen this coming after the excellent Huxley video you made couple weeks ago. Keep up the great work!
One of my favorite people of all time, he was brilliant.
Haven’t watched it yet but I already know it’s gonna be amazing!
Edit: Just finished watching the video, it was as good as I expected
Nobody:
Mckenna: *Mushroom Dance, Mushroom Dance*
what could it mean?
possamei it means you’ve live a life of sin!
This is slowly becoming one of my favorite channels especially after this video.
“Hanging out with aliens” is intense as hell. Not sure how people like Terrence managed to do it so regularly. But he sure did manage to retain a lot more than I did and spoke about it so eloquently. Gone too soon.
The experiences are like life. When you begin, you're a newborn, awestruck, and with no ability to do anything other than to witness in shock. However, as you go back multiple times, you "grow up" as you might say. It might start with a moment of telepathic communication with the entity, or as them giving you some sort of gesture (a thumbs up is a common one for me), but eventually, you will be able to communicate with them in what I can only describe as totally correct and normal human English (I speak English). It took me 30+ breakthrough trips, but slowly I began to learn how to navigate the experience and communicate with the entities. I've had many more trips since then where I and the entity could communicate and I was able to bring back their specific teachings.
tldr; It's all practice, just keep smoking it, and push your dose higher as often as you think you can.
Francis McCormick - Thanks, I appreciate the advice. I will keep that in mind going forward.
fascinating
@@fmcco002 Can u give an example of such teaching that you were able to learn?
@@TheiPotter They're usually trying to show me the illusory nature of the self, with an emphasis on its consequences for free will (or the lack thereof). That suffering is just the struggle to 'do' when nothing can truly be 'done'. It tends to be Buddhist teachings. As for the spoken English, I have an example where a very loud voice shouted the words at me "This is not you! None of this is you!"
They've also given me a lot of practical advice about how to navigate the DMT space
You’ve done videos on Watts and McKenna, I can only hope a video on Ram Dass/Richard Alpert will come out eventually
this!
Robert anton wilson and timothy leary as well
I’m quite baked and I just listened to the whole ad at the start because of the music... tremendous!
What's your connection with housecat? Just wondering because I finally realised it was the jazz that sets the tone of these videos so well
What is house cat?
@@scarbizro3097 it's the jazz that sets the tone of these videos so well.
I checked it out, is he an artist or just a channel? Are those his original works and if so is it secretly Sisyphus in disguise lol? Because Housecat has like no followers lol
@@scarbizro3097 ua-cam.com/video/ZyLjL0FceNQ/v-deo.html
Thank you friend! Its nice to see other people that are interested in similar topics be so jolly. I bet you have the humor of a Mr. David Hume, lively and cheerful.
I have come to understand, through psychedelic use, the study of psychological sciences and a vast array of spiritual practices that there is a spiritual realm that exists, Jung refers to this as the collective subconscious. The closest place we can get to accessing this realm sober is in our dreams. But through the use of psychoactive drugs these murky concepts start to feel more defined, both with visual and mental clarity. Most religions are ancient teachings aimed to define the strange aspects of this subconscious realm. These entities that one meets, particularly in DMT, comes eerily close to the descriptions of ancient gods in Hinduism, and ancient Egyptian &Greek mythos, to give a few examples.
Christianity is archaic in this sense because it teaches these things to be "false idols". And to only to worship the ONE "God", which i understand as the overwhelming force of interconnected love and peace that you might experience in an ego death on psychedelics. The acceptance to use psychedelics, not to engage with other entities, spirits and gods, but to use it to get close to THE all knowing and THE all loving is quite separate to most religions with the exception of Buddhism, and even the Christianity we know today. But i believe it's the truth of what the bible was getting at all those years ago. And to this day offering a lot of knowledge and wisdom that we psychonauts could gain a lot from engaging in.
I haven't read the whole thing, but I'd like to disagree. For example, we are creatures of this (3) dimension, and those "entities" are just visual effects we have. If a blind person takes DMT, I doubt he will have any of these visions. He might have distorted sounds or feelings, yet it merely proves my point that we are the slaves of our existence and surroundings. Dreams also seem to reflect our inner emotional state. About the collective subconscious, I'm convinced that it's simply a common sense that can be completely demolished into pieces by psychology along with human behaviour and neuropsychology
Temirlan Kasmaliev sure, but I would argue that a blind person would still experience “entities” through other senses. Sight is not the only sense to play in higher consciousness. I agree that we are ‘slaves to our existence” in the sense that we are restricted to our own individual lens of perception. Which makes it impossible to really measure, compare or make absolute deductions about these experiences. What I’m getting at is that, there is a part of our reality that we can’t explore with our own logic. Even the field of behavioural psychology is quite clear that we don’t quite understand dreams or consciousness without being reductionist. So why not engage with the idea that there’s a realm beyond our understanding?
Yes
Bec Ravioli your text is so ferociously beautiful. Let me read it again to understand
Bec Ravioli there is always something we don’t know, information can have no end...and maybe there infinite layers of everything. So, we have to go by what we have applying reductionism. I’ve recently read Chaos by Gleick. Incredible book. Logic for me is as if knowledge consists of relevant truths to be objective; we merely have to figure it out. Does something exist without us knowing that it exists? I think it should.
Psychedelics made me realize that geometric fractals through mathematical algorithms are what make up the world and indeed, the universe around us.
@Vardaan Vardhan God don't real, I just think math helps us understand what makes the environment and space around us. Humans will likely never know exactly how we came into being, but to say a higher power was behind it just seems silly. To me, I think the big bang happened as a result of neutron, and proton energies colliding.
Didn't expect this, hell yea. There are a ton of talks of his on UA-cam, I recommend "Terence McKenna - Who Are We?" as a starting point.
That ad positioning tho, a man died!
Joe Rogan also talks about his experience seeing "mechanical elves" while tripping. Thats very interesting
Correct, when the part of your brain that tries to detect agency misfires due to high levels of neuronal activity from the mushrooms, you tend to personify your experiences. Ancient cultures would have described it as gods or demons or something else in that space. Describing it as aliens is the modern Western framing of the same underlying phenomena. Joe Rogan is exploring that space and is using the same framing because he has look into Terence McKenna's work.
Joe Rogan doing drugs? Are you sure you have the right guy?
@@CluckN 😂😂 nice one
Hey that’s crazy, you ever done dmt?
@@WillofTH no, but I have dropped acid twice. Both times I was overwhelmed and it left me in a terrifying mind space. the first time, I saw a butterfly as I was sitting on my porch. At first I was consumed by the beauty and youth of nature. Then it seemed that there were 2 butterflys, and I was swept with a feeling of love and unity. But then it occured to me that perhaps there was only one butterfly, and the second was simply an illusion or color trail. I was overcome with a sense of anguish and solitude. I cried and was encompassed by despair. All night when I tried to sleep I saw demons when I closed my eyes, horror is not enough to describe what I suffered through. The next day I went to my family grave site and cried all day feeling utterly alone, terrified and helpless. Psychedelics are not for the weak of mind, or those suffering from mental illness, as I realized too late.
You rock! I'm just saying......thanks. YT is a better place with your content in it 👍i hope this venture treats you well because it is very good work that I'm sure many have learn from. Plus a nice start to a friendly salon 🌱
Amazing! McKenna is very undervalued, I have never heard anyone more eloquent.
im just soo happy you chose to make a video on my fav Philosopher . Love your work !
same, all my homies love McKenna
*Fantastic video homie..!*
I love that you have a video about mckennna, your page is great man.
Well done, Sisyphus. Clever presentation and fine distillation of the breadth and depth of what Terence shared with the world. For a sequel if you so endeavor: A singular distinction for him was his sense of humor and his linguistic mastery - which is often a signal of the truly wisest among us (re: James Joyce is his favorite writer). Cheers.
Also - the citing of reportedly violent cultures who have shamanic traditions as "negating" his theory of a peaceful prehistoric partnership culture with a shamanic tradition is a non-sequitur.
"Seriously changed my whole pocket situation." -Sold
I would love to see you do a video on Robert Anton Wilson. I think you'd find his contributions (while not necessarily philosophical) quite interesting.
I listen to his workshops and talks on UA-cam all the time. I always put them on when I go to bed
I love your videos but the fact that the question mark at the beginning is always slightly off-centre is really bugging me haha. Keep up the good work tho, its probably an aesthetic choice and i respect that. Cheers
My favorite UA-camr making a video about my favorite human
The freak of today is the philosopher of tomorrow.
im so glad you made a video on Terence
The idea what "life is weird" is exactly why i love this channel. So many philosophers and thinkers seeing the world in their own eyes all with different conclusions and theories. I do believe that the world is much more than just the ordinary that has been drilled into us. The whole "go to school, go to college, get a job, get married" pipeline is nothing more than a structure that many people are too scared to break since it's kinda the only life most know. There's people who believe that certain rocks have the power to suck up bad emotions and stuff, i've come to the conclusion that we're all our own worlds and that life is kinda this equal ground to share ideas and how we see things. Rocks with magic powers? I don't really see it but life is weird and it's real to others. It's like we're all radios that can pick up various frequencies, some pick up some and others don't. At least that how i've come to see things. Still trying to understand things y'know
In the book True Hallucinations (1994), McKenna explains that they weren't mixing mushrooms with Ayahuasca, but instead only one component of the Ayahuasca brew, the monoamine oxidase inhibitor Banisteriopsis caapi, which he supposedly smoked.
Your channel is booming wow. Good stuff man!
RIP Terence
thanks for this
youre my favorite youtube channel
please do Ram Dass and Tim Leary too
I enjoy your videos very much. Thank you for making them.
Notably, Terence also had such a horrific mushroom trip that he ended up swearing off of them for good l. Only occasionally taking ayahuasca usually with a shaman
Where can I read/hear about this
@@fie_biggestfan he wouldn’t speak about it too much. I heard it from his brother and his ex wife. I can’t remember what video.
McKenna was and is a genius. Was he mildly broken by the psychedelics?.......Yes, but he was also WILDLY curious, imaginative, open, creative, perceptive, verbally skilled, and funny.
Of all the humans I've read about, and listened to, Terence is among the top, easily. I wish his brand of humble limitless seeking was more common. Until then i will continue to go to sleep nightly, listening to his talks.
As a thinker and bard I love him. He was such an eloquent person and fully captivates every drop of your attention. Althrough he was a bit off on some of his theories I doubt there will be a more interesting mind to listen to in the psychadelic space.
I wish I had found your channel sooner. You have excellent content
I like this guy. Most philosophers like to act like they are on the path to Truth through their specific system of reason. This guy seems to just be like "yo, shit's weird, so why do you all discredit everyone else? There's a lot that could be true, but who's to say we're on the path to Truth right now?"
maybe that's abductive reasoning you prefer, however inductive and deductive reasoning must take place too. I'd say they are even a better choice mostly in order to prove your point.
Excellent video as always
Great video!
Mckenna seems to have modeled his idea of the archaic revival after Gebser's idea of integrated consciousness.
Gebser's book is called The Ever Present Origin.
It may be worth being on your radar.
Within the stoned ape theory the idea is not that early humanoids would eat cow dung but follow herds of wild cattle tracking their dung and find appetizing mushrooms along the way.
I resonate so much with the idea that the universe is being pulled towards an end goal. I have this feeling as though human life was intentional it is so bizarre compared to any other conglomeration of atoms out there, in fact its the only conglomeration of atoms that has figured out its a conglomeration of atoms.
A small factual mistake was around 6:18 when you spoke of Terence’s idea pertaining to earlier humans following ungulate animals to eat the dung of those cattle, this is untrue. Terence said he supposed based on ape behaviour that they search for bugs and other rich protein sources BENEATH the dung pile.
Great video, I just had to add that for accuracy. Cheers
Ive been waiting to see this video for a while
Hey! I really like your videos on the life of philosophers. Do you think it would be possible to include more info about what age they were when they did certain things? For me personally this paints a better picture about the pace of their lives.
good shit. earned a sub for giving my boy terence some love
HAHAHAH! I'm so happy you did a video on Terence
Awesome video!
Great video it introduced me to McKenna and interested in him, I’ll read some of his works
He didn’t claim that they ate dung lol. He said that’s how you can find grubs and insects and stalk prey. Mushrooms were a bonus. ✌️
This is a good video. Neither insane or annoying. Good job.
This video was posted on my birthday with uncle Terry being my favourite Philosopher. That's weird. haha
*"Smuggled hasheesh"* im dead
As ridiculous as the Timewave Zero stuff is, "infinite novelty" sure seems like one way to describe the post-2012 world
Underrated man
Id love a video on KRISHNAMURTI. He is interesting
Not too short lived, not too long a video. Only video I’ve seen in years where I didn’t mind the music. Told his story well.
Great video
well done, brother. yet another great video and a particularly interesting addition alongside the more traditional, classic philosophers normally featured. as terrance McKenna fan I would just like to point out that his many wacky and even silly ideas have served me just as well as many more plausible explanations of our place in the universe. his ideas, even when they were wrong, always encouraged humans to treat each other with kindness and compassion and to take care of the environment (and its been fun hanging out with aliens too).
Great video! A video on Nassim Nicholas Taleb would be awesome!
bro i saw those canadian dollars, where ya from? im in van city and love your vids.
Thanks for the videoo!!
Great episode!
I had no idea you’d made a Terence McKenna vid, really interesting stuff. I’m a big fan if you can’t already tell from my pfp. Something about his way of thinking and speaking is deeply inspiring to me, even if some of his theories were a little dubious.
Idk what it is but the wiggly letters make me VERY uncomfortable lmao
Joe Rogan dmt experience. I'm dying.
This missed a lot of the key points behind McKenna's philosophy, namely Riane Eisler's work which influenced so much of his. He believed, rightly, that psychedelics can dissolve the individual, masculine ego, effectively "feminizing" societies -- and as scary as this may sound to many men, it's what's needed to drag us out of this Hell. Riane Eisler's book The Chalice and the Blade offers a revolutionary view of anthropology that points to a past in which our ancestors lived in harmony with Nature and one another. This is what McKenna meant by an "archaic revival," not a return to Freud or the early 20th century in general. No, he was looking back roughly 6000 years, when Minoan Crete fell and the last of what Eisler calls "partnership" cultures was destroyed, plunging humanity into the darkness that is our current "dominator" model for societies, in which the Earth is subjugated, divided, and destroyed in the names of profit and war.
Regardless of what you think of the Time Wave or McKenna's more fringe ideas, to ignore his feminism, rooted in a wish to return us to a state of partnership, is to miss the entire point of his philosophical career.
This needs to be noted. He was missing a lot of stuff here for sure. Can't just summarize this man this briefly.
One little nitpick and just to be clear that my intentions are not to berate you, but the whole "our ancestors living in harmony with nature" is a logical fallacy in its own right. You could argue right now that we are in harmony with nature by following our biological programming which is consume, reproduce, and learn about the world and our inner selves. Also even though I know you didn't specifically that nature is good, I almost made the mistake of misinterpreting and assuming the living in harmony with nature is good. I was going to mention that living with nature isn't arguably the most efficient and best way to maximize the wellbeing of others as living in the wilderness can easily lead to lots of suffering. Being naked and frolicking in the woods is pretty natural but so is being mauled by a bear or getting sick. I guess my point would be that, don't assume because flowers are pretty and so are animals, that we should be living amongst them like that the only right way to live in harmony with the universe.
I majored in IT not psychology but if there's a shortage of people I did take psych 101 🐱👤
Man of many hats
I love psychs I've done 73 different substances in my life and I'm only 20.
My mans masked up alone in his bedroom showing off the ridge wallet lol
Fantastic video.
Only minor complaint I have is that the summer of love was in 1967.
I think that Terrence did what so many do in the pursuit of knowledge, he blinded himself with it and on that fateful day when he experienced unknowable terror I believe that he came face to face with a metaphorical incarnation of his own self taught ignorance. It came to him as a demon, a being of unfathomable power that was convincing enough to shut down his deeper search for answers. He often used to boast about not believing in anything, this is not so, he believed whole heartedly in that which he could convince himself was unshakable truth. On a positive note this drove him to present his message with passion, a passion deep enough that it got people listening. The dark side that we all know is that by convincing himself of certain truths he unknowingly magnified over time a very uncomfortable potentiality when it comes to mushrooms. We all know it and fear it and hate it but it's what sinks in when the fun takes a vacation. That aggravated, paranoid sense of dread that some experience during a come up or after long term use. It's just my opinion but I think that feeling comes from making the mistake of thinking that you've figured it out. Mushrooms do not seem to enjoy human attempts at figuring them out and just the tiniest bit of hubris can act like poison in the well. Instead, I would strongly suggest that anyone using them for the purpose of bringing information back and breaking it down for people to do so with caution because what you are getting is a serialized packet of information that takes months to decode from it's storage within your subconscious mind. Trying to just "figure it out" makes about as much sense as downloading a zipped folder and trying to discern the entirety of it's contents while it is still compressed. May McKenna rest in peace but to all that follow, be smarter than your ego or one day it will visit you, as it did him, with the most discordant thing imaginable, a mirror.
Archaic revival is a pretty interesting idea.
One correction, summer of love was 67 not 63
Edit: way more corrections than I care to list
shout outs from Winnipeg!
very interestring video
Yes thank you
I think he said that the world is made of words and if you know those words you can create any thing that you want.
I've come across similar ideas which make me think he's projecting his inner experience on the outside world.
fuck yeah finally my guy gets sponsors
I can recommend the song "An Incredible Pearl (feat. Terence McKenna)" by We Plants Are Happy Plants.
Where's the footage of the hunter gatherer people from at 6:40?
1963 Summer of love? Wasn't the Summer of love in 1967? Checked Wiki. It seems to agree with me but I may be missing something?
i always smile when he (in his Ridge wallet sponsor'd segment) says "it doesn't awkwardly bulge in your pocket". some awkward bulges are desirable and attractive, but not the ones induced by wallets, probably.
I just got a cannabis ad on this video.
Nice.
omg he actually did it!!!