8:20 I wonder if Osa placed her shield just as the thorn grenade exploded, the damage is blocked considering her feet are exposed when carrying it. Definitely need to test this out.
It doesn’t matter. Any shield operators you’ll use, except for Blackbeard, will take damage reduction from the razorbloom shells. They aren’t immune. Given that Macie still has EMP impact grenades he should’ve use all of it, expecting any electronic traps behind that deployable shield.
@@chalexen2862not like he could’ve known there was a Thorn on the defender’s team. His team may have been able to warn him about Thorn traps, but I don’t think I seen them did it once. Especially the person who eliminated Thorn.
True. However, from what I can tell from the team scores and the attacker’s team composition it implies that they’ve kept bringing entry fraggers to the point were it provoked defenders into bringing traps. It’s the same scenario I’ve encountered when I kept bringing Blitz every round. Lesion and Frost presented above were basically the only hints.
@Provakeject uses drones, gadgets, abilities, and utility to their full potential while being creative and original on the fly. Not to mention no one is really even close when it comes to the tactical mind of Macie. Its a fact man, he's not toxic what is there to hate?
If dude played Cs like that He get instant reported and kicked lmao MJ is outside site He had advantage to rotate bomb and he didn't and he didn't shoot drone My brain cannot comprehend
I'm not the most strategic, but I definitely enjoying playing and watching siege with a little more thought behind things than just running and gunning.
Man believe me when i say that, I would rather watch your gameplay over any other gameplay. Been like that since day one, I enjoy your content to the full extent. Please keep doing what you do best, Macie.
I barely even play the game, but i still watch Macie because he plays the game the way it was meant to be played. TDM is boring. Every game is TDM. This was supposed to be different, but people are so simple that "proper siege" is too hard for them
EH, understand your condolences there. When I Started siege it felt more "Tactical", like you kinda had people who worked towards working reletively tactically to get the angle on your enemy to win, AND go for objectives. But these days it's just run-and-gun. Just go in, shoot shoot shoot, get head shot, get that adrenaline rush. And it's becomes so much of a focus, that I've now come across more players who: - Rush in, die, leave. - Don't get a single kill in a round, leave. - Be the last 1 standing. Leaves cause they haven't even gone into the building yet. - Be the last 2 Standing. Leaves cause it's a 2 vs 4 and they don't want to put in effort cause they know they can't run and gun.
Your "proper siege" is the only video style i like to watch I stopped play r6 a long time ago for other tactical shoters But your videos are always a big plessur
What a man! Still finding new ways to stick to "Classic Siege" or "Proper Siege" as you say so well. I can hear the disdain in your voice when you say (implicitly and explicitly) nobody plays Siege at its full potential and treat it just like an arcade shooter, when it is so much deeper than that. I will be there if and when you decide to stick with a new game, waiting for you to surpass every expectation of the community. Love you Macie!
I think the days of proper siege is long gone with the new generation of players. The game has shifted to tdm, and older players are being shunned for playing the game the way it was intended. No one listens to reason and facts. I truly don’t know what to do to change it. I play the game less and less now. Thanks for the tactical content it’s still appreciated.
been watching you since around 2016-2017, i'm just returning to siege after not playing since 2019 and it's genuinely insane how much different the game is now. i took a very long break from all things siege, including content as well, and coming back to it now is just.. so jarring. i was a high plat/mid diamond player in original siege, and the last thing you said about it feeling like tdm is spot on. there's no more post-plant team set-ups, there's no true coordination in operators being picked, it just feels like a more "tactical" overwatch at this point. the amount of rounds i've won since returning simply out of being the last person alive and holding a BASIC ass angle is insane. all in all, i love your content macie, you're the content creator i've always enjoyed watching in siege - maybe kix gives you a run for your money :') #BringBackOpHealthSiege
It's funny you put bring back op health Siege because that was the operation I made diamond in back in the day lol the other thing that is killing siege is xim at least on console since I played on Xbox. Can't back this past season and didn't do too bad, tactical siege still works fairly well but I'm airways forced to play hard breacher since no one else does but if I don't see anyone that can get mute, bandit or kaid I'll switch to capitao and breach an off angle only to have a good plant spot totally wasted since it's now team death match
@@AG-fv4yb i’ve always played on pc, so i can’t really speak on the xim situation lol. i just see the night and day difference between how siege was played and is played now
@@sah-daddy it's rough bro, my buddy's quit playing surge again because of it. We got to plat pretty easily and then we were just running into xims damn near every match it felt like. There was no shame either, or suspicions were anyways confirmed with the crouch spam that is very obviously only done with mnk
I agree. I dont quite know when but the game changed from a semi-tatical shooter with atleast some level of realism to a more generic feeling hero shooter-esque game with cops instead of super heroes, perhaps it was around the time they started adding those no risk, one click abilities(Finka, Lion, Etc). Those elements that made Siege unique are just a shell of what they use to be.
@@followthewolves1991 never forget when pengu and the rest of g2 all said ubisoft needed to stop making operators that force you to play a specific way. no operator should ever force you to do anything
I feel your pain Macie... @6:07 lol worst part is that everyone has to die until the last one alive listens... or none 😂. At least for you is good content for entertainment!
Grab the defuser and go to the other site to create as much separation as possible from Echo and his drone. Then you don't have to worry about Echo swinging you, allowing you to safely shoot the drone when planting or just keep planting, Echo can only deny the plant twice before it needs to recharge, he had over a minute left so that is an option. Echo can not run to lockers in time to deny the plant directly when sitting in servers, so it should be guaranteed to go down at the least. Post plant may not favor the Kali 100% but it's a much better chance of winning than swinging Echo directly while concussed.
@@landojr. To take the bomb to the other site? They have a drone on him so they will know for certain which way he comes from and there's only two ways he can go, through site or loop around and come down stairs, as a kali why would you take a close fight like that? I know he was using the secondary but you don't even have to be super accurate with the sniper, you just have to clip an arm or a leg in some cases
@@landojr. how long you been playing siege bro? Did you and your buddies pick up the game more recently because I've partied up with some randoms and the common theme is they decide on one bomb site and if it fails just go for kills. It just sends like the mindset has shifted a bit no disrespect intended btw
Really appreciate these top tier siege videos, I actually learn a lot of like how to hold angles and different ways to push from your videos, obviously I don’t copy thing from thing but I try to add it into my own gameplay! You’re IMO the best siege content creator
Just got back into the game after a few years off and I get the “proper siege frustration”. I’m an Xbox player so I could only imagine how much of a tdm fest ranked on pc is. Funny enough, in a lot of casual lobbies on Xbox, it’s so nostalgic seeing everyone on attack slowly sweeping the building and moving together lol. It’s not every match but I love playing like that even if it’s not the most effective
Your idea of 'proper siege' is correct. People are just lazy. It's so much easier to just turn your brain off and run in than think methodically about how you will make your next few steps. Please keep uploading this kind of content, it never gets old.
I feel like your proper siege problem is especially bad in Champ. I am nowhere near that, maybe platinum average, and I too can notice the TDM meta, but not to the same extent. Quite often I get teams with great coordination and utility usage, and it might help that I usually play with 4-stack as well. Despite all this, I do feel most matches resemble deathmatch more than proper siege.
Macie, your idea of "proper" siege is correct. One of the reason i dont play anymore(only when i have a full squad of friends to play) is that everyone treats the game like its a run and gun TDM. I miss the old siege.
Dear Macie, thank you for always posting positive and entertaining content. I just wanted to say, your videos are like a mental rest point for me when they come out.
proper siege demands 10 people of the same skill level playing together in a lobby.... the gap between players is so large that good players can just play tdm and win with minimum effort.
I watch your videos to learn cause I know you play this game the way it's supposed to. Thank you for never changing Macie 🖤💛 (Your charm has boosted my IQ)
I love watching your videos, keep up the great work! I love how you always say Siege isnt Siege anymore its more like team death match because now its true. I liked playing the older years since you had to work as an actual team and use all of your gadgets.
10:43 I can’t lie Macie, I totally agree with you but at that point the score is 0-1, it’s a 5v1 and the bomb is planted. I feel like there’s an unwritten rule most people follow that you can go chase the last guy alive until it’s a 3v1 or 2v1, at that point yes 100% just guard the diffuser. Most times you’re guaranteed to win a round like that.
coming from someone who started during Black Ice and quitting after Flores got added I 10000% get what you mean by proper siege. Started to play again (1 month in) I find it so weird how this current meta is with everyone blood thirsty and playing for themselves instead of the objective/team.
Nice! Honestly I am a big fan of these types of videos. Its always really cool to see the master at work with one op, but it can get boring sometimes especially with some of the 1 trick pony characters. Keep up the content!
I believe a big factor as to why there is no ¨proper¨ siege anymore is because allot of traps like Kapkan etc that forces you to slow down is either not as lethal anymore or its just way too easy to get rid of them using the EMP grenades or other means to disable or destroy them, which makes you lean towards a rush mentality instead of taking it at a slower pace to really investigate the area and then clearing it to avoid destroying yourself. And my own thoughts for the defenders is that they don't feel like they are at a disadvantage when they roam and hunt attackers instead of defending their objectives which i contribute to Solis most heavily but not exclusively. There is definitely much more to this but its how i view it.
I've noticed the whole "everyone just goes for the kills" way more these past few years. Nobody wants to play OBJ and really only care about kills. Like if you're 2-4 but middle of leaderboard cause of OBJ points you get called "Trash" by some douchebag.
I'm still learning from Macie Jay, trying to play a proper siege is frustrating. I pick a breacher and asked someone to pick thatcher or at least pick emp instead of any other utility but nobody listens
The game has changed. I love watching your videos for the tactical implementation you commit to in your content. Shame alot of forethought and planning get completely overshadowed in the game now.
I returned to siege some weeks ago I'm currently silver II and I hate it. It's absolute mayhem, no one tries to plant, no one is patient when at a numerous advantage, no one holds their ground. They're always trying to frag and hunt down everyone, it's definitely like a deathmatch...
Incentivise tactical play, bring back the proper stun effect from concussion type effects like breach charge detonation. Weaken gunplay by removing OSHS from all but dmr/sniper types and giving a damage bonus to all others instead (if any), bring back a lot of the smoke left from explosions from early siege to decrease battlefield visibility, bring back the "almost blinding sunlight flooding in through windows" to counteract spawnpeeks and defender angle holding (i.e. add a dynamic sunlight effect on defenders looking outside, making it harder to hold the long range angles). Add a recoil penalty when moving to disincentive run and gun on automatic weapons to reduce the incentive to always swing and decrease the effectiveness of peekers advantage. Add a proximity based scan warning if an opponent gets yellow pinged to equalize otherwise unrealistic wall bang lineups. Revert to old 1.0 or 2.5x scope options to reintroduce actual pros and cons instead of the best of both worlds 1.5 (outside of special scopes ofc). Change bulletproof to bullet resistant, allowing gadgets to eventually break under enough fire and giving attackers more to waste their ammo on and less incentive to bring a gonne/gadget clearing that often is used in rushes.implement aimjerk when flashed proportional to stun magnitude when flashed, i.e. your aim will jerk away from the flash instinctively. Increase stun when hit coming out of shield by 2 frames, especially after a charged smash attack, decrease Doc's jab stun to remove jab lock combos, add a vaccine to cure yourself if you get bitten, so on, so forth.
Tuning down 1.5x scope is a good option in the short term. changing speed and guns will just make the game not fun.... Old siege was way darker, had night maps, more smokes while destroying things or using gadgets, debris and dead bodies stayed on the ground. All of this gave an overwhelming amount of information for a player to process and i think slowed down tha gameplay quite a bit. Today, none of this exists anymore or was changed to be clearer and bright. hiding spots are patched every now and then and players now have this bright aura that makes hiding even harder I think all this changes to the game in the name of quality of life had a big impact on the tdm meta, not requiring you to be cautious. On top of this, the matchmaking sucks and ranked 2.0 sucks
They have to make run and gun less viable, if blindly running around with Warden works then people will keep doing it. Ubisoft seems to think adding recoil to every good gun is the best solution, but crazy recoils only make the game less fun, Ela and Twitch being a prime example considering they went from god tier to balanced, but is just no fun to play anymore. I think it would be better to just change the current headshot damage multiplier from 50x to 2x. Since every headshot is an instakill the guns with low recoil and high rate of fire have a massive advantage, so of course defenders force direct gunfights and have a much higher win rate. Changing the HS multiplier would favor the guns with higher damage per second rather than rate of fire, which means attackers would have the advantage in direct gunfights instead, as they should. This would then force defenders to mold the map into their favor and use their utility to play those power positions in order to have an advantage over the attack. The attackers would then be forced to try to dismantle those advantages with their own utility, thus creating the true R6 experience. I know one shot headshot has been in the game since the start and I genuinely use to love it but gunplay has changed so drastically over the years making it easier to hit heads than ever before. We use to have recoil misalignment, bad lighting, no 1.5x scope, operator camouflage blending into walls, faster movement, and a whole laundry list of changes that has made gunplay easier. Now I'm not saying those specific changes were bad for the game, they were fantastic actually and much needed but it had an unfortunate consequence. It made made target acquisition and gunplay as a whole significantly easier, lessening the importance of all the other tools that we once needed to reliably win our gunfights.
@@MacieJayI know it's not quite the type of content you put on this channel but I would love to see a breakdown on the changes you think should happen to bring back "proper Siege" Maybe with clips showing bonehead TDM clips illustrating your point lol
@@LetterNumber unfortunately, if he were to put out that kind of video, he'd be hounded by tons of run and gunners out there as they prioritize aggressive assault over strategy and compromise in both gameplay and discussion. I wouldn't want Macie to have that kinda headache lol.
9:11 Who else could hear the gears turning in Kaid's head "C4" and Macie also already thinking EMP Counter.
Shit was nasty
09/11 was a Inside job
hes done it like 100 times
I had no idea you could even do that.
Everyone else besides Macie is playing checkers. And he’s playing chess
It’s nice watching macie play with nolimi7 because it feels like he finally has a teammate that cares about the game in the same way he does
Yeah exactly, the streams always have a better energy because he's not alone in these scuffed matches
@@Nova32xit’s always a mental slaughter when you have to grind alone in a shooter
8:20 I wonder if Osa placed her shield just as the thorn grenade exploded, the damage is blocked considering her feet are exposed when carrying it. Definitely need to test this out.
Osa shields do block thorn shrapnel as its not an explosive. I remember watching a mythbusting video when Osa came out and they confirmed it then.
It doesn’t matter. Any shield operators you’ll use, except for Blackbeard, will take damage reduction from the razorbloom shells. They aren’t immune.
Given that Macie still has EMP impact grenades he should’ve use all of it, expecting any electronic traps behind that deployable shield.
@@chalexen2862not like he could’ve known there was a Thorn on the defender’s team. His team may have been able to warn him about Thorn traps, but I don’t think I seen them did it once. Especially the person who eliminated Thorn.
True. However, from what I can tell from the team scores and the attacker’s team composition it implies that they’ve kept bringing entry fraggers to the point were it provoked defenders into bringing traps. It’s the same scenario I’ve encountered when I kept bringing Blitz every round.
Lesion and Frost presented above were basically the only hints.
it’s flechettes vs ballistic glass. those flechettes win every time
always love how macie plays the game like it's meant to, not like some ridiculous gun game.
You guys are such a bunch of weird eco chamber husks, praising a single person like a god just bc he uses drones and cameras more
@@Provakeject???? Chill out bro😂 he just like the way Macie plays...
@iansilva6861 don't pretend like you can't go into the comment section of a video without seeing 100 people dickriding a youtuber for no reason
@@Provakejectfound the brain rot rusher
@Provakeject uses drones, gadgets, abilities, and utility to their full potential while being creative and original on the fly. Not to mention no one is really even close when it comes to the tactical mind of Macie. Its a fact man, he's not toxic what is there to hate?
The EMP on the C4 was perfect, just perfect.
Macie is the only one that actually teaches how to play rainbow six the way it should be played.
This is the only dude that makes want to pick up R6 again.
Watching Macie play makes me wanna hop back in so bad. Unfortunately, everyone has forgotten how to play properly. love seeing this type of content!
Forgotten implies they knew how to do it at some point...
lol very true@@thermiteturtle3486
The frustration and disappointment in the Zofia Coastline clip is so real. Good lord.
I always play to plant the defuser. The game is so much more fun when you outbrain your enemies.
I was the thorn that placed that at 8:20 Its so broken lmao
WP, it's the last thing I expected.
thorns in the floor boards are still so effective
That Oregon clip, great teammates
Wait the lack of reinforcing is actually wild and concerning lol
The kid grabbed the defuser and still planted on A! xD
If dude played Cs like that
He get instant reported and kicked lmao
MJ is outside site
He had advantage to rotate bomb and he didn't and he didn't shoot drone
My brain cannot comprehend
3:30 in todays episode of macie teaches how to play otherwise useless operator
Oh man the desperation “not like this” I felt that man.
I'm not the most strategic, but I definitely enjoying playing and watching siege with a little more thought behind things than just running and gunning.
Two MacieJay videos this week? We’re eating good. Love the video as always!
As someone who used to play “proper siege” I miss it so much! Haven’t played it in a few months
they can literally reduce movement speed a bit below walking speed while ads and it will fix all the cod problems instantly
Man believe me when i say that, I would rather watch your gameplay over any other gameplay. Been like that since day one, I enjoy your content to the full extent. Please keep doing what you do best, Macie.
I barely even play the game, but i still watch Macie because he plays the game the way it was meant to be played. TDM is boring. Every game is TDM. This was supposed to be different, but people are so simple that "proper siege" is too hard for them
EH, understand your condolences there.
When I Started siege it felt more "Tactical", like you kinda had people who worked towards working reletively tactically to get the angle on your enemy to win, AND go for objectives.
But these days it's just run-and-gun. Just go in, shoot shoot shoot, get head shot, get that adrenaline rush.
And it's becomes so much of a focus, that I've now come across more players who:
- Rush in, die, leave.
- Don't get a single kill in a round, leave.
- Be the last 1 standing. Leaves cause they haven't even gone into the building yet.
- Be the last 2 Standing. Leaves cause it's a 2 vs 4 and they don't want to put in effort cause they know they can't run and gun.
5:34 usually when I ask people to listen and rotate, I get scream at and tk...
Macie "I'm Planting" Jay
true
Your "proper siege" is the only video style i like to watch
I stopped play r6 a long time ago for other tactical shoters
But your videos are always a big plessur
What a man! Still finding new ways to stick to "Classic Siege" or "Proper Siege" as you say so well. I can hear the disdain in your voice when you say (implicitly and explicitly) nobody plays Siege at its full potential and treat it just like an arcade shooter, when it is so much deeper than that. I will be there if and when you decide to stick with a new game, waiting for you to surpass every expectation of the community. Love you Macie!
Didnt expect that philosophical quote in the end there macie
I have terrible aim (I'm OLD), but Macie's strats really help getting victories, even for bad gunners like me.
A good throwback to see you in my feed
I think the days of proper siege is long gone with the new generation of players. The game has shifted to tdm, and older players are being shunned for playing the game the way it was intended. No one listens to reason and facts. I truly don’t know what to do to change it. I play the game less and less now. Thanks for the tactical content it’s still appreciated.
Happy to hear I'm not the only one feeling this way.
The play at 9:20 was the cleanest thing I have ever seen
Im glad to ear that from u « champ ranked are team deathmatch » that insane
Ooooo peek me in garage…peek me. 1v1 me….goes to plant…dies hahahha. Good work Macie!
I am happy that you now play with a squad so you can create team play contents
If you are in server room, you are geting pinged and you can't find a drone, it's in the dronehole of blue stairs most of the time.
been watching you since around 2016-2017, i'm just returning to siege after not playing since 2019 and it's genuinely insane how much different the game is now. i took a very long break from all things siege, including content as well, and coming back to it now is just.. so jarring. i was a high plat/mid diamond player in original siege, and the last thing you said about it feeling like tdm is spot on.
there's no more post-plant team set-ups, there's no true coordination in operators being picked, it just feels like a more "tactical" overwatch at this point. the amount of rounds i've won since returning simply out of being the last person alive and holding a BASIC ass angle is insane. all in all, i love your content macie, you're the content creator i've always enjoyed watching in siege - maybe kix gives you a run for your money :') #BringBackOpHealthSiege
It's funny you put bring back op health Siege because that was the operation I made diamond in back in the day lol the other thing that is killing siege is xim at least on console since I played on Xbox. Can't back this past season and didn't do too bad, tactical siege still works fairly well but I'm airways forced to play hard breacher since no one else does but if I don't see anyone that can get mute, bandit or kaid I'll switch to capitao and breach an off angle only to have a good plant spot totally wasted since it's now team death match
@@AG-fv4yb i’ve always played on pc, so i can’t really speak on the xim situation lol. i just see the night and day difference between how siege was played and is played now
@@sah-daddy it's rough bro, my buddy's quit playing surge again because of it. We got to plat pretty easily and then we were just running into xims damn near every match it felt like. There was no shame either, or suspicions were anyways confirmed with the crouch spam that is very obviously only done with mnk
I agree. I dont quite know when but the game changed from a semi-tatical shooter with atleast some level of realism to a more generic feeling hero shooter-esque game with cops instead of super heroes, perhaps it was around the time they started adding those no risk, one click abilities(Finka, Lion, Etc). Those elements that made Siege unique are just a shell of what they use to be.
@@followthewolves1991 never forget when pengu and the rest of g2 all said ubisoft needed to stop making operators that force you to play a specific way. no operator should ever force you to do anything
Hearing Macie sad makes me sad. We love you Macie.
7:30 wow Macie tanked that shit off just right in time, I'd say most of the player couldn't survive that. impressive!
Impact EMP on a Nitro. I’m sure just as the devs intended! Amazing stuff!
Macie reaction with that zofia at 4:49 was funny af.
I just recently had a teammate use this exact echo drone positioning to clutch a round. It was awesome to see!
Bring back full match Fridays Macie 🙏🏾
Love to see more Osa clips, she truly is amazing, the EMP on the C4 was honestly perfect 🔥
the silence of that dude eating his words when you blew up the Kali was peak
I feel your pain Macie... @6:07 lol worst part is that everyone has to die until the last one alive listens... or none 😂. At least for you is good content for entertainment!
That first clip I mean what do you do? Lol. Macie is a genius when it comes to stuff like this.
Grab the defuser and go to the other site to create as much separation as possible from Echo and his drone.
Then you don't have to worry about Echo swinging you, allowing you to safely shoot the drone when planting or just keep planting, Echo can only deny the plant twice before it needs to recharge, he had over a minute left so that is an option.
Echo can not run to lockers in time to deny the plant directly when sitting in servers, so it should be guaranteed to go down at the least.
Post plant may not favor the Kali 100% but it's a much better chance of winning than swinging Echo directly while concussed.
@@MacieJaynobody has the brain in siege to do that unfortunately
@@landojr. To take the bomb to the other site? They have a drone on him so they will know for certain which way he comes from and there's only two ways he can go, through site or loop around and come down stairs, as a kali why would you take a close fight like that? I know he was using the secondary but you don't even have to be super accurate with the sniper, you just have to clip an arm or a leg in some cases
@@AG-fv4yb yeah my teammates would never even think about doing that
@@landojr. how long you been playing siege bro? Did you and your buddies pick up the game more recently because I've partied up with some randoms and the common theme is they decide on one bomb site and if it fails just go for kills. It just sends like the mindset has shifted a bit no disrespect intended btw
I feel you. I think the same thing wish we could team up
“Proper siege is gone” I know that pain
4:30 that transition tho
always a pleasure watching a Macie video
These videos are such a different experience from the streams.
The man is completely drained of any enjoyment of the game in his streams.
Proper Siege is a vibe tbh
HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THAT IMPACT ON 15HP????
Awesome video Mr Macie as always :)
Really appreciate these top tier siege videos, I actually learn a lot of like how to hold angles and different ways to push from your videos, obviously I don’t copy thing from thing but I try to add it into my own gameplay! You’re IMO the best siege content creator
I agree with Macie man, some people just get killed hungry and throw easy rounds so frustrating
Another Tactical Siege Video. Feels good when you make a quick plan to pressure the enemies into your trap.
Just got back into the game after a few years off and I get the “proper siege frustration”. I’m an Xbox player so I could only imagine how much of a tdm fest ranked on pc is. Funny enough, in a lot of casual lobbies on Xbox, it’s so nostalgic seeing everyone on attack slowly sweeping the building and moving together lol. It’s not every match but I love playing like that even if it’s not the most effective
it is the most effective literally everyone roams u can get a couple picks just from actively sweeping rooms of roamers
3 am right now, and Macie jays videos always makes me want to hop on even if I’m tired after a long shift. Since the beginning and still.
The goyo gadgets gave me a proper laugh xD
Your idea of 'proper siege' is correct. People are just lazy. It's so much easier to just turn your brain off and run in than think methodically about how you will make your next few steps.
Please keep uploading this kind of content, it never gets old.
Poor Macie...
this game isnt the same one we fell in love with
that c4 counter was the biggest iq play iv ever seen
You’re the last tactical player on a frontier of run and gunners. Everyone goes 1.5 and pew pews everything.. keep it alive Macie 💕
I feel like your proper siege problem is especially bad in Champ. I am nowhere near that, maybe platinum average, and I too can notice the TDM meta, but not to the same extent. Quite often I get teams with great coordination and utility usage, and it might help that I usually play with 4-stack as well. Despite all this, I do feel most matches resemble deathmatch more than proper siege.
Macie, your idea of "proper" siege is correct. One of the reason i dont play anymore(only when i have a full squad of friends to play) is that everyone treats the game like its a run and gun TDM. I miss the old siege.
Funny how pre3 spd nerf days
It was more Siege than it is now
Dear Macie, thank you for always posting positive and entertaining content. I just wanted to say, your videos are like a mental rest point for me when they come out.
Big fan of MacieJay so I rewatch his vids a lot. In the first clip the drone is by dirt facing the middle desk in server😂😂blended in with the floor
People love talking shit nowadays it's actually kinda hilarious 😹
proper siege demands 10 people of the same skill level playing together in a lobby.... the gap between players is so large that good players can just play tdm and win with minimum effort.
The future is now, old man
Macie dropping 2 vids this week… hell yeah! 🔥💯
I watch your videos to learn cause I know you play this game the way it's supposed to. Thank you for never changing Macie 🖤💛 (Your charm has boosted my IQ)
I love watching your videos, keep up the great work! I love how you always say Siege isnt Siege anymore its more like team death match because now its true. I liked playing the older years since you had to work as an actual team and use all of your gadgets.
I still play this way in Emerald on PS5. We appreciate you my dude.
macie constantly showing us how if you play smart and can coordinate with teammates (i know thats almost impossible most of the time) you can win
Good content once again Macie! Don't stop playing proper Siege!!
Good stuff as always Macie! Keep it coming!
The real META ladies and gentlemen
10:43 I can’t lie Macie, I totally agree with you but at that point the score is 0-1, it’s a 5v1 and the bomb is planted. I feel like there’s an unwritten rule most people follow that you can go chase the last guy alive until it’s a 3v1 or 2v1, at that point yes 100% just guard the diffuser. Most times you’re guaranteed to win a round like that.
But most importantly, feels good to play game.
4:32 We now push aqua and A site mainly when I play with my friends. Bring Sens and Hibana and we can plant default like 4 out of 5 times.
"its an honor macie" ❤
coming from someone who started during Black Ice and quitting after Flores got added I 10000% get what you mean by proper siege. Started to play again (1 month in) I find it so weird how this current meta is with everyone blood thirsty and playing for themselves instead of the objective/team.
Nice! Honestly I am a big fan of these types of videos. Its always really cool to see the master at work with one op, but it can get boring sometimes especially with some of the 1 trick pony characters. Keep up the content!
I love watching ur videos man, literally art
I remember old Siege where every single person on defense just stayed on site and no one roamed at all and just hid there waiting.
When I play siege the proper way, half my team gets killed a minute in
I believe a big factor as to why there is no ¨proper¨ siege anymore is because allot of traps like Kapkan etc that forces you to slow down is either not as lethal anymore or its just way too easy to get rid of them using the EMP grenades or other means to disable or destroy them, which makes you lean towards a rush mentality instead of taking it at a slower pace to really investigate the area and then clearing it to avoid destroying yourself. And my own thoughts for the defenders is that they don't feel like they are at a disadvantage when they roam and hunt attackers instead of defending their objectives which i contribute to Solis most heavily but not exclusively. There is definitely much more to this but its how i view it.
I've noticed the whole "everyone just goes for the kills" way more these past few years. Nobody wants to play OBJ and really only care about kills. Like if you're 2-4 but middle of leaderboard cause of OBJ points you get called "Trash" by some douchebag.
I'm still learning from Macie Jay, trying to play a proper siege is frustrating. I pick a breacher and asked someone to pick thatcher or at least pick emp instead of any other utility but nobody listens
The game has changed. I love watching your videos for the tactical implementation you commit to in your content. Shame alot of forethought and planning get completely overshadowed in the game now.
Macie blessing us with the vids this month
True jujutsu == proper siege
The deevolution of Siege tactics.
I returned to siege some weeks ago I'm currently silver II and I hate it. It's absolute mayhem, no one tries to plant, no one is patient when at a numerous advantage, no one holds their ground. They're always trying to frag and hunt down everyone, it's definitely like a deathmatch...
loving the upload frequency Macey!
Loving the frequent uploads
Proper siege is anything operation health Macie
Genuine Question, how would Ubisoft fix this? Nerf all the guns? Make all attackers 1/2 speed?
Incentivise tactical play, bring back the proper stun effect from concussion type effects like breach charge detonation. Weaken gunplay by removing OSHS from all but dmr/sniper types and giving a damage bonus to all others instead (if any), bring back a lot of the smoke left from explosions from early siege to decrease battlefield visibility, bring back the "almost blinding sunlight flooding in through windows" to counteract spawnpeeks and defender angle holding (i.e. add a dynamic sunlight effect on defenders looking outside, making it harder to hold the long range angles). Add a recoil penalty when moving to disincentive run and gun on automatic weapons to reduce the incentive to always swing and decrease the effectiveness of peekers advantage. Add a proximity based scan warning if an opponent gets yellow pinged to equalize otherwise unrealistic wall bang lineups. Revert to old 1.0 or 2.5x scope options to reintroduce actual pros and cons instead of the best of both worlds 1.5 (outside of special scopes ofc). Change bulletproof to bullet resistant, allowing gadgets to eventually break under enough fire and giving attackers more to waste their ammo on and less incentive to bring a gonne/gadget clearing that often is used in rushes.implement aimjerk when flashed proportional to stun magnitude when flashed, i.e. your aim will jerk away from the flash instinctively. Increase stun when hit coming out of shield by 2 frames, especially after a charged smash attack, decrease Doc's jab stun to remove jab lock combos, add a vaccine to cure yourself if you get bitten, so on, so forth.
Tuning down 1.5x scope is a good option in the short term. changing speed and guns will just make the game not fun....
Old siege was way darker, had night maps, more smokes while destroying things or using gadgets, debris and dead bodies stayed on the ground. All of this gave an overwhelming amount of information for a player to process and i think slowed down tha gameplay quite a bit.
Today, none of this exists anymore or was changed to be clearer and bright. hiding spots are patched every now and then and players now have this bright aura that makes hiding even harder
I think all this changes to the game in the name of quality of life had a big impact on the tdm meta, not requiring you to be cautious. On top of this, the matchmaking sucks and ranked 2.0 sucks
They have to make run and gun less viable, if blindly running around with Warden works then people will keep doing it.
Ubisoft seems to think adding recoil to every good gun is the best solution, but crazy recoils only make the game less fun, Ela and Twitch being a prime example considering they went from god tier to balanced, but is just no fun to play anymore. I think it would be better to just change the current headshot damage multiplier from 50x to 2x.
Since every headshot is an instakill the guns with low recoil and high rate of fire have a massive advantage, so of course defenders force direct gunfights and have a much higher win rate. Changing the HS multiplier would favor the guns with higher damage per second rather than rate of fire, which means attackers would have the advantage in direct gunfights instead, as they should.
This would then force defenders to mold the map into their favor and use their utility to play those power positions in order to have an advantage over the attack. The attackers would then be forced to try to dismantle those advantages with their own utility, thus creating the true R6 experience.
I know one shot headshot has been in the game since the start and I genuinely use to love it but gunplay has changed so drastically over the years making it easier to hit heads than ever before. We use to have recoil misalignment, bad lighting, no 1.5x scope, operator camouflage blending into walls, faster movement, and a whole laundry list of changes that has made gunplay easier. Now I'm not saying those specific changes were bad for the game, they were fantastic actually and much needed but it had an unfortunate consequence. It made made target acquisition and gunplay as a whole significantly easier, lessening the importance of all the other tools that we once needed to reliably win our gunfights.
@@MacieJayI know it's not quite the type of content you put on this channel but I would love to see a breakdown on the changes you think should happen to bring back "proper Siege"
Maybe with clips showing bonehead TDM clips illustrating your point lol
@@LetterNumber unfortunately, if he were to put out that kind of video, he'd be hounded by tons of run and gunners out there as they prioritize aggressive assault over strategy and compromise in both gameplay and discussion. I wouldn't want Macie to have that kinda headache lol.
pocket EMP ftw countering c4 from connector... that was awesome