Triumph Speed Twin - Road Test & Review - A legend returns?

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @wickedcoolname399
    @wickedcoolname399 5 років тому +2

    To my eye the least attractive thing is the brake reservoir. I hate it. It looks like they forgot to design one and they stuck on a urine sample jar at the last minute.

  • @joshnme
    @joshnme 5 років тому

    Nice review. Straight forward without all the gushing flowery crap. I do some subfreezing temp rides. Any heated grips or cruise control to stick my hand in my pocket for a quick spell?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yep heated grips can be specced, and i've found them to work really well on the Tiger and Bobber. Don't think CC is an option

  • @patthewoodboy
    @patthewoodboy 5 років тому

    5:35 ... M25 flyover heading toward Ongar .. I am stalking you :-)

  • @pencils1951
    @pencils1951 5 років тому +58

    A nice retro bike, though fifty five years ago I was a Norton rider. My last and final bike was a Suzuki Gixxer 750 K2, and to me one of the most beautiful designs there has been. Alas, age and infirmity overtook my enthusiasm. I maybe disabled but in my mind I relive everything. Every chosen line, gear, and speed, and so many rides I will no longer make. Enjoy your bike but ride safely and sensibly, and remember, you're only as good as the worst idiot out there.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +3

      Wise words

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz 5 років тому

      I had a couple of Nortons back in the day as well. Commando Interstate MkII in the candy red. The one I bought second hand in London had an M plate and the pea shooter pipes. First big bike I had. Then had some Dunstall work done on it. Porting and shaving the head to raise the compression ratio. Made the fin spacing look weird but really helped with the grunt. Loved the sound of that motor. Something about 360º cranks just makes the right noise. It was a good way to get about in London and wander out into the Suffolk and Norfolk countryside in the summer. Great fun and nostalgic memories. I wish Norton were still a successful and competitive company like Triumph. I'd have one instead of the KTM 950 V-twin in the garage. Cheers and thanks for the trip down memory lane.

    • @pencils1951
      @pencils1951 5 років тому +1

      Great, my last Norton was a Comando, only I had the roadster in burnt orange. 2.2 gallon tank that leaked and it threw oil all over my rear wheel and me from the chain oiler, but that aside, I still wonderful times on my Nortons.

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz 5 років тому

      @@pencils1951 Wasn't that a glassfibre tank? Great colour for that bike. Never liked the idea of glassfibre though. I preferred the 5 gallon steel tank on the Interstate. It could last a lot longer than the bum could on that saddle. I had the low bars that let me lean into the wind a bit. Bought a full face AGV helmet and a jacket from Lewis leathers, somewhere in London.
      I was over there working in the North Sea, helping to lay pipelines in from the oil rigs in the mid 70's. Back in California a couple of years later my mate needed to sell his almost identical '74 850 MkII, also in red but with different pipes. Held on to that bike for about 10 years. Had a local shop lace up some Akront 19" Allie rims to the hubs since the coastal marine salt air was doing a job on the steel rims. Might be considered sacrilege but I thought they looked great.
      I forgot about the built-in chain oiler. I miss the bike but probably wouldn't like all the maintenance at my age. The KTM reminds me of the great torque that the Norton had coming out of corners. I still get the occasional "reverse shift glitch" when I go through the gears on any other bike. Some habits are hard to overwrite. All the best to you. Nortons Forever!

    • @pencils1951
      @pencils1951 5 років тому

      Yes, you are correct but unfortunately, the petrol constantly seeped. I also remember feeling like a parachute because of the handlebars, it only took a few miles before stopping to let the blood back into my fingers. Such were the perils of bikes in those days.

  • @FredWilbury
    @FredWilbury 5 років тому +7

    Nice review Sir .... I’m awaiting mine ... end of April.... 70th birthday 😱....regards Fred.....px my old se ....

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Nice, enjoy it sir and Happy Birthday!

  • @1MrBryn
    @1MrBryn 5 років тому +7

    I had a good look at one at the dealer last week. It genuinely looks like a top shelf custom that a shop built.

  • @jackleonard2088
    @jackleonard2088 5 років тому +9

    Excellent video Tony. And good advice at the end. This looks like another winner for triumph.

  • @josephlosness1825
    @josephlosness1825 5 років тому +5

    Excellent video Tony! I do quite like the speed twin. 👍😎🏍🇬🇧

  • @marcr660907
    @marcr660907 5 років тому +3

    Nice bike, nice overview Tony. I loved the look of the Thruxton R, but I didn’t like the riding position, maybe this is an option. I like it in red, and do agree with you on the exhaust colouring. The twin clocks are great, a TFT setup would be just wrong.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Cheers Mark, yep I think this is the best sorted bike in the modern classic range for looks

  • @True.Motive
    @True.Motive 5 років тому +3

    Please review RE Interceptor 650

  • @joshnnik
    @joshnnik 5 років тому +2

    Great review, enjoyed watching. As a current T120 owner, I prefer the look of my bike but would love it to have that extra 16 bhp of the Speed Twin engine. Cheers.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yep it’s certainly a more stripped down look, so not one for those that like the traditional ‘bonnie’ look

  • @whittlad
    @whittlad 5 років тому +2

    I think this has been your best review to date. Well presented, researched and edited. The camera shots on the twisties were superb. Nice looking bike and food for thought if you fancy either the Thruxton or Street Twin. I do feel Triumph have an identity crisis with its name badges. Yes, they mostly have to same font/logo but some bikes have the stripe running through it (new scrambler I believe) and some have a type of shield. If Triumph are trying to pull everyone’s heart strings into buying a classic retro style then why not have a standard name badge/shield on then petrol tank that also harks back to bygone times? The cynic in me thinks that Triumph probably want you to buy a classic looking tank badge as an extra so they can cut costs and then charge top dollar to loyal customers for OEM part. Anyway enough about that. Great review and nice looking bike but I’m a Thruxton fanboy👍

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Thanks Neill, yep who knows what the process is, I just think on these type of bikes, keep it simple

  • @rumien1383
    @rumien1383 5 років тому +2

    Good review, nice looking bike, apart from the brake master cylinder. Wtf were they thinking?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      It’s much like any other remote Bmc I think, at least it gives the option to change it fairly easily. If they had fitted one of the integrated ones your kinda stick with it unless you change the entire lever assembly. With this the get the nice Brembo lever

    • @rumien1383
      @rumien1383 5 років тому

      @@mancavemoto you make a good point.

  • @FlorinNitulescu_1
    @FlorinNitulescu_1 5 років тому +2

    The best thing about any of the new Triumphs is that they are very different to one another. I love this. A Scrambler 1200 is one thing, the Speed Twin is a whole other story and so on. This one might be a little too close to the Thruxton, but the fact that it has a different gas tank (actually different than the T120 or Street Twin...) shows that Triumph wasn’t lazy when developing the Speed. It has all those little unique touches that make it a pleasure to look at. Triumph is absolutely killing it with its Modern Classics range. 👏🏻🤩

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      It’s certainly a nice addition to the line up

  • @michaelhayward7572
    @michaelhayward7572 4 роки тому +1

    Good review, thanx. Nice to see a bit of Meriden history at the beginning. Hey Triumph, can you please bring back the Trident name. A Speed Triple with pretend air cooling, retro looks, analogue clocks and a round headlight. Basically a prettier XSR900 that says Triumph on the tank. TIA...
    Edit,
    Thank me later when it becomes your best seller...

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +2

      i'm pretty sure they've got some plans tucked away somewhere?!

  • @johnaronson5974
    @johnaronson5974 5 років тому +1

    Nice review. I recently rode a few modern retros at a Triumph Demo Day here in Colorado. Unfortunately, they did not offer the Speed Twin to ride. I did like the T-120 though. Can you compare the T-120 to the Speed Twin? Similarities / Differences / rider position etc?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Thanks John, ive spend a little time on the T120 and my quick comparison would be that its a more upright riding position, heavier and a more relaxed ride. The Speed Twin pitches you forward just a little and the bike is considerably more 'urgent'. Depends what you are after really

  • @suryanadash5419
    @suryanadash5419 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for giving a detailed and genuine opinion towards it 👍👍

  • @Don-lw4cb
    @Don-lw4cb 5 років тому +1

    Great looking bike but I hate the discoloured down pipes, makes them look old and knackered.

  • @ikc4901
    @ikc4901 5 років тому +12

    Great review...great bike although I think charging another £300 for just 2 colour choices is a p##s take!
    I'm still tempted though.😕

    • @thomaselliott573
      @thomaselliott573 5 років тому +6

      Unfortunately Triumph always offer a bike that is not really up to what people want for the money, then they overcharge for the extras that make the bike what people expect it to be (and what it should be in the first place).

    • @kwakkers68
      @kwakkers68 5 років тому

      Haggle hard. Part of the art: looking convincing in your conviction that you will 'walk away' (given the economy, sales are needed).

    • @DEeMONsworld
      @DEeMONsworld 5 років тому

      I like the bike, Triumph is clever , under price the bike in basic black, and offer the real price for the "normal" paint job, and add ugly 2 tome black cans which 80% of owners will upgrade anyway, so basically add 1500 USD to the base price. I still want one :)

    • @T0BBi94
      @T0BBi94 5 років тому +2

      @@DEeMONsworld They draw you in with the base model and slowly up-sell you in the heat of excitement. "What the hell its just x amount of more money".

    • @fredholmes6788
      @fredholmes6788 5 років тому

      I agree with you about charging more for diff paint, but to be fair the two colour tanks have hand painted lines.

  • @hollowaysteve
    @hollowaysteve 5 років тому +1

    Nice review Tony. This is what I've been after since the introduction of the Thruxton. I took out a Thruxton R and really liked it but told the salesman I still had to take out a Guzzi Griso as I was after a more 'sit up and beg' type bike as I already have a bike with a sporty riding position. I ended up with something completely different, but a year later I got the Griso as well. If this had been around at the time it might have been my choice. I always hankered after a T120 with the Thruxton R engine and I have toyed with buying a Thruxton used and putting a street bar conversion on it. (there are now top yolks available that take that drop shape of the original into account) This is a nice looking bike, save for a few details like the rear guard, the rubbish black silencers and the boring paint (I'd get the black and spend the £300 Triumph are asking for the metalics on a custom job) It's also disappointing that there isn't an 'R' version straight away with decent suspension (I don't know if there will ever be an 'R' version) I'm sure it's adequate but as you say, it is quite firm and our roads don't really deal with firm, so unless one is a little heavier it may well be too much. My Griso has fully adjustable suspension both ends but at 12 stone (76kg in new money) I still have to wind the compression down to zero. It's a quality unit, just set up 'Italian firm'. At least it is adjustable both ends and if the Griso were made today would be equivalent in cost to the 'Speed Twin' I think Triumph are short changing us a little. I'd happily lose the 'riding modes' that are of little or no consequence on a street bike and take some better suspension instead. I hope that isn't too negative; I'm looking forward to a test ride and I already know that I would consider (a used) one in a year or so.

  • @farric1
    @farric1 5 років тому +2

    Even the new budget priced enfield twin features twin clocks. C'mon Triumph...all your bikes should have them.

    • @ericb252
      @ericb252 5 років тому

      Yeah but the quality and finish don't match these

    • @karlosh9286
      @karlosh9286 5 років тому

      I guess Triumph need several things to differentiate between the Street and Speed Twin.

  • @peterkoning21
    @peterkoning21 5 років тому +3

    Hopefully my next Triumph !

  • @davidraym.4450
    @davidraym.4450 5 років тому +3

    Outstanding review. Thanks!!

  • @davidchampkin5999
    @davidchampkin5999 5 років тому +1

    The seat is not comfortable unlike the T120 which is very comfortable!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      All subjective, I found the seat comfortable, certainly more comfortable than the street twin

  • @CONFUCIUS-f2x
    @CONFUCIUS-f2x 5 років тому +1

    In a land of Harley Davidsons all over the place, this is going to be me next motorcycle. Just to be different.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      .....and I don't blame you. It's my favourite model in the Triumph 'Modern Retro' range

    • @colindebourg3884
      @colindebourg3884 3 роки тому

      You won't be disappointed, I got mine last week and love it.

  • @cosmiccharlie8294
    @cosmiccharlie8294 5 років тому +1

    Great looking bike aside from the few odd bits. Reminds me of my 1981 CB900F SS.

  • @doreenluepken
    @doreenluepken 5 років тому +1

    Couldn’t agree more with you on that review. Tried the scrambler and the speed twin and in less than 2 weeks the speed twin (grey) will be mine. So excited!

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli 5 років тому +1

    Great take on the bike! Perhaps you could do me a massive favor and give a little input on the T120 vs this Speed Twin? I reserved a T120 Diamond Edition, but for the similar price I'm thinking the Speed Twin is a better "bang for the buck."
    On one day I'll be looking for enough comfort for my wife and I for a few hundred miles a day and a way to mount a little luggage. On the next day, I'd want to have a blast through the twisties, not getting a knee down, but have the speed and agility to have loads of fun. Speed Twin, T120, I'm just not sure.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      A lot depends on the look you like, T120 obviously more traditional Bonnie styling. The T120 is probably going to be more comfortable two up as well. It’s heavier and not as dynamic or quick to steer as the Speed. So the T120 will give the torque, easy cruising and comfort, but maybe not the out and out thrill of the speed?

    • @nspinicelli
      @nspinicelli 5 років тому +1

      @@mancavemoto Yeah thanks we'll see, I'll have to wait until the Speed Triple is released here in the States. Cheers!

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j 4 роки тому +1

    I missed this review when it came out. The only Triumph I'd consider.

  • @OldManTony
    @OldManTony 5 років тому +1

    I really must go and try a Triumph modern classic. I was going to last time I took my Tiger in for service, however the sales guys were doing a brisk trade so I didn’t like to stop them hahahahah!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Give it a go Tony, always worth a little try out

  • @AAKhanivore
    @AAKhanivore 5 років тому +1

    Really good review! You should try mixing your commentary audio with the background noise from the film. Regardless, good info.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Thanks, there was just too much wind noise to be able to mix it

  • @peterford9369
    @peterford9369 3 роки тому

    I like those mirrors. They are tear drop but the taper is mild, so you get plenty of mirror . And they're stock yes? I guess they're usable with bar weights? I'd love a pair on my bonneville. Will check into them. I'd say they just wanted to add some sign of a passenger grab bar to the frame without an actual one? Personally not having any on my bonneville, I'd enjoy having something to hold on to when moving it around the utility.
    Not sure what it is, but of the 5 bikes I've owned, this is the only one I've felt top heavy pushing it around. And it's 100 pounds less than the VMAX was. Thanks man. Good review.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому

      Cheers Peter, thanks for sharing

  • @1990-t1j
    @1990-t1j 4 роки тому

    I've just watched this again. There is a Triumph dealer in Chiang Rai. Two big bikes that appeal to me are this and the Honda CB1000R, and only Triumph and Honda do test rides. I think the Honda looks better. Maybe I should give them a test ride, back to back.

  • @frankandree62
    @frankandree62 5 років тому +2

    Great review. looking forward to next one.

  • @sishirmishra5983
    @sishirmishra5983 5 років тому +1

    Great video.. beautiful countryside to shoot in . looking forward to the followup video !!

  • @stanleydenning
    @stanleydenning 5 років тому +1

    Works well on the left-hand side of the road. What about the other side ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      This was a 'right hand drive' version, so not sure how the export models compare ;)

    • @stanleydenning
      @stanleydenning 5 років тому +1

      @@mancavemoto That makes my joke even funnier.

  • @rudramain
    @rudramain 4 роки тому +1

    Are there any vibrations ? Specifically at lower rpm ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      It Doesn't Matter Not that i noticed

  • @tinks43
    @tinks43 5 років тому +2

    Definitely a beauty Tony! Replacement for the street twin?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +2

      Ha! maybe, but i'm about £10k short at the moment

  • @ronaldwesterduin3719
    @ronaldwesterduin3719 4 роки тому

    Beautifull Triumph again,is this type made in Thailand.But when it is no problem where it is made.The only thing is ,what about jobs for the British people?But its all about the money....

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Yes I'm pretty sure the Speed Twin is assembled in Thailand. Sadly if it was made in Britain people would complain the bikes are way too expensive. There are very few mass market manufacturers building solely in their own country.

  • @matthaeus8348
    @matthaeus8348 5 років тому +1

    Nice view. I'm looking for my first bike and I 'd like to choose this bike

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +2

      It would be a nice bike to grow into, it wouldn’t be intimidating to ride and its got plenty of get up and go as your skills improve.

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 4 роки тому

    Most likely my Bonnie will be replaced by a SpeedTwin; and I am still a Norton rider ... ‘74 Commando

  • @casperdog777
    @casperdog777 4 роки тому

    Love the review. I found with my old T120, I just did not have the road space to use the power it had. So I went for the slightly lighter and nimbler Street Scrambler 900. But the Speed twin is an ideal retro with a twist of real world perfomance! Looks great. Out of interest what is economy like? Nearly 100 bhp is superb for a retro! WOW . But living in S E England - roads are crap and too much traffic out there.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. Yes the Speed Twin gives that little extra performance as well as being nimble. Economy was pretty good, mid to high 50’s (depending how it was ridden) so you won’t see much difference to your Street Scrambler. You can find plenty of quiet places if you do a bit of exploring ;)

    • @casperdog777
      @casperdog777 4 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto that's true I live in Sussex South Downs are amazing ! Thanks for the mpg figures

  • @neilabraham-dowsing2325
    @neilabraham-dowsing2325 3 роки тому

    This a true piece of badge engineering. God, you would think Triumph would have taken the Bobber and painted it Burgundy. That by itself would have been far more convincing than this stale effort. I was so looking forward to what Triumph would do to bring back this iconic name. My excitement was matched only by my sense of deflation at the timid outcome.

  • @fahmi9
    @fahmi9 5 років тому

    Have you ridden the Scrambler 1200? If so, how do you find the seating position compared to that? I find it a little low and cramped, though to be fair, I only rode the Speed Twin for less than 5 mins

  • @drewsneakerverse
    @drewsneakerverse 5 років тому +1

    That road is a belter isn’t it! Literally commute it every eve from the city.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yep, conveniently the route between Jack Lilley Romford and my house 😉

  • @vbc-hannel
    @vbc-hannel 4 роки тому

    Extra frame rolling out underneath the rear of the seat there is for a couple common-sense reasons... a push / pull...lift up & down handle if you will. Also able to attach a back pad (sissy bar type) Also, a handle for passenger etc...with that said... it also doesn't stick out as far as being able to see it or look ridiculous either. The other, is if you want to inlay LED brake light, and / or turn signals as well, could fit both! Most people are getting the flatter tail piece(fender), with a less rediculous looking plate holder. The stock one looks like an extra swing arm. Good lord! Anyway, just a few fabrication ideas done. Thank you, from the Midwest (Home of the Chiefs)

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      It wasnt that much of a problem, but I had to find something negative about the bike! Interestingly it doesnt stick out enough for any of your suggestions, good though they are. Go Chiefs.......(actually I'm a Seahawks fan!)

    • @splodge5714
      @splodge5714 Рік тому

      Look at the rear subframe of the 70's Norton Commando Roadster. That was a lovely bike, hope this Speed Twin is as good.

  • @MrJlk1973
    @MrJlk1973 Рік тому

    Im well pleased with my speed twin its a great bike for me👍👍

  • @ThrillaPark
    @ThrillaPark 3 роки тому

    Nice vid as usual. What do think between T120 v STwin? Wanna do some weekend camping trips and ride around town mostly..

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  3 роки тому +1

      The Speed Twin is deffo more of a sporty ride with a slightly more aggressive riding position. The New T120’is lighter than the old one and is said to be a bit less lardy all round. I would say the T120 would offer more comfort but the speed Twin more fun?!

    • @ThrillaPark
      @ThrillaPark 3 роки тому

      @@mancavemoto Thanks for getting back man! Cheers!

  • @zardportugal
    @zardportugal 5 років тому +2

    Great review.

  • @colblimp1882
    @colblimp1882 5 років тому +1

    Nice review, and brilliant bike.

  • @corvair140
    @corvair140 5 років тому

    Great review Tony. First one that tells us about the speed twin. Every other jurno review, just rides the bike round twisty lanes with fancy background music and arty shots, then they just say its great. (no doubt it is). Anyone interested, join my facebook page. Speed Twin Owners.

  • @freddobbs2011
    @freddobbs2011 5 років тому

    Taking a hard look at this bike. Great review and summary. I'm in Thailand. I had looked at the T100 andT120, but things like heated grips are like the proverbial tits on a bull and the T100 seemed a little spare. Long story short, I ended up with a Kawa W800, and am quite happy with it. Comparable to the Street Twin, but with more features, I guess. The Speed Twin looks to be a terrific upgrade. Another reviewer complained about the shifter. He found it awkward to hook his toe under it. Also no one has mentioned center stand. I assume it doesn't have one, since they paid so much attention to weight. Anyway, your thoughts on the shifter "issue" would be great. Thanks, John

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Hi John, no issues with the shifter, either the position or operation. It’s a lovely slick gearbox. No centrestand on the bike as standard

  • @steveross2280
    @steveross2280 5 років тому

    Good luck with your new bike. I'm waiting for the new Scrambler 1200 to come in, reminds me of my first bike, a Honda CL160 with Scrambler pipes that I had at 15. Never had a Triumph but think I'm going to like it. Swerve carefully out there in Cali!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Sadly not my new bike, just a loaner for the review

  • @hamishsb
    @hamishsb 4 роки тому +1

    Great Review - Thanks

  • @markfoster2033
    @markfoster2033 5 років тому

    I run a 675R Street Triple,it's due a service next month & after watching this I'm tempted to demo a modern classic Triumph why my bike gets serviced,thanks for posting this video.

  • @AFard-hn3fo
    @AFard-hn3fo 5 років тому +1

    How does the speed twin compare with the BMW R NineT? Which bike would you choose and why?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Great question. I REALLY liked the RnineT when I rode it, and the content on my channel was almost very different. In the end price was a factor for me buying a Street Twin. It was £5k cheaper although performance wise very different. In terms of the Speed Twin, things are closer. The bmw is still £2k more expensive but the performance differences are negligible. In fact I think the Speed Twin feels lighter and more agile. So I guess it would come down to personal taste. Genuinely difficult for me to pick one, I’d probably nudge towards to Speed on looks and handling, but with low mileage used beemers at around £7500, they are hard to ignore

    • @AFard-hn3fo
      @AFard-hn3fo 5 років тому +1

      Thanks for you feedback. I can’t make up my mind which one to buy...I literally change my mind a few times every day. Im leaning toward the speed twin because of its looks and for adding more technical features such as riding modes and traction control. What do you think about the reliability of the Triumph? I know the beemer is solid, I have a 1978 R100 that is still running strong...

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      I think the triumphs have been pretty good, the Street Twin had a few issues, but pretty minor. I think the beemer would be a better long distance mileage muncher? It would be a case of riding back to back I guess?

    • @AFard-hn3fo
      @AFard-hn3fo 5 років тому +2

      I’d love to see a review of both bikes compared to each other. I’m guessing Triumph is trying to go in same category as the beemer. I would even throw in the Ducati 1100 Scrambler in that review

    • @percyc123
      @percyc123 5 років тому +1

      Views from the Man Cave - I’ve had a long test ride on this bike.Ive also owned several BMW’s including RR and ninet. The Speed Twin is not an Bmw 1000R but it’s power feels very eager , more than the Ninet and much lighter.

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 5 років тому

    Talk about simple pleasures, to not have a lot of distracting drone-perspectives and flashy video editing is a welcome feature. Here is my question: Will this bike accept the same de-cat system many people are putting on their Thruxtons?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Hi Walter, yes the current xpipe’s will fit this bike also.

  • @rhugh02
    @rhugh02 5 років тому

    Great bike but dude get it out of the dirt... Now go give it a wash and a detail.

  • @vejos5338
    @vejos5338 5 років тому +1

    Excellent vide, as always. Thanks.

  • @tonihannan
    @tonihannan 5 років тому

    Hi tony (it’s Toni again). I heard you comment on the older model street twin brakes. I have the 2017 street twin and the brakes leave a lot to be desired. I recently cleaned off the calipers and they seem to work better but i still want more from them. I recent;y test rode the 2019 street twin and these felt fine for the bike. Do you have any suggestions for upgrades on brakes for 2017 models? Many thanks Toni

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Quite a few people have gone to aftermarket sintered pads with good results i hear. I found the brakes did the job when called upon, but they are not the snappiest.

  • @magicdaveable
    @magicdaveable 5 років тому +1

    Great Review Thanks.

  • @buddhastaxi666
    @buddhastaxi666 5 років тому +1

    I have a 215hp bike and this seems ok power wise.

  • @Farwalker2u
    @Farwalker2u 4 роки тому

    I have a 2017 Bonneville T-120 with the 1200 HT engine. The main problem I have with the T-120 is that I often scrape the foot pegs when cornering. The foot pegs on this Speed Twin look to be mounted higher so that you can lean more into the corners without scraping.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Yes, thats certainly one difference between the bikes.

  • @charliefarlie6469
    @charliefarlie6469 5 років тому

    Definitely agree on the comment between this bike and the scrambler, only time will tell but I reckon that after the initial clamour to have a new model in the stable the speed twin sales will rise above that of the scrambler, I think that the scrambler will be too tall for the majority of riders and fitting a lowering kit ( of which there will undoubtedly be one ) is counter intuitive to producing a bike with such long suspension travel , added to that the scrambler is a good deal more expensive and is restricted to the amount of luggage panniers that the owner can have due to the one sided high level pipes . Thanks for posting , now subscribed .C.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Cheers Charlie, my thoughts exactly

  • @DebjeetPal
    @DebjeetPal 5 років тому

    How a 10L rupee bike sell like hot cake in India? Has the economy gone up this high? Wonderful thought though. India might be one of the growing economy but you might have forgot the fact that 13% of people are still below the poverty line

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      I'm not sure I understand? did you comment on the right video? I didnt refer to any of the above.....

  • @derf9465
    @derf9465 5 років тому

    A 60's Thruxton Bonneville is lovely an R1 of its day. The modern Thruxton is 41kgs heavier. It's an embarrassment to the name. These modern theme bikes are no where close.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Very true they were lovely bikes, the modern Thruxton is heavier but it has twice the horsepower. Mind you I think a 65 Thruxton would have good for over 130mph

  • @xjeffyb4656
    @xjeffyb4656 5 років тому

    They need to stop with rider modes. No one needs rider modes or traction control. I'm all fine with ABS, but the reason i bought my 17 Street triple R over the 18 was mostly due to the lack of computer riding aids, the gauge cluster is nice and simple, and it is crystal white. Now the new Speed twin is really nice but i wish they would throw the modes away and they should of put the Truxton R's front forks instead of the classic looking ones. Hopefully ill get to test ride one of these soon tho.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      I admit that most of the time (other than test purposes) I left it in the same mode. Traction control is useful as long as it can be switched off if required. Personally I like the 'standard' forks, upside down forks would be ok as long as they weern't the gold ones...

  • @shujaatks
    @shujaatks 5 років тому

    Hey tony, great video...when are you going to do the scrambler 1200 review? Hopefully soon coz I wanna upgrade my street twin and was thinking of the scrambler 1200.

  • @onurb.2770
    @onurb.2770 5 років тому

    How is the sitting position and the position of the knees on the bike? I tried Thruxton R and I really struggled to find a place for my knees as I was constantly looking for an OK place to keep my knees and squeeze the bike so my arms could relax a bit.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      It’s roomier than a Thruxton, I found it a comfortable bike to ride

  • @MrToonfish
    @MrToonfish 5 років тому

    What about the catalytic converter ? I have the Street Cup and it's like your Street Twin under the engine, you replace it with an x-pipe. On the Speed Twin is the cat integrated into each of the exhaust pipes on the rear ?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      The cat is in the same position, so would be ripe for an x-pipe swap

  • @natekwart
    @natekwart 5 років тому +1

    Excellent review Tony!

  • @Cuzzazbuzz
    @Cuzzazbuzz 4 роки тому

    Can’t sling a leg over due to restrictions at the moment. Do you mind me asking how tall you are and if you’d think it will be comfortable a 6’2" rider?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Hi 5ft 10 and yes i think it’ll be OK

  • @JLOSTAFF1
    @JLOSTAFF1 5 років тому

    Heard reports of jerky on/off throttle response at low speed. Was this noticeable to you at all? Nice review BTW.

  • @Soggz7785
    @Soggz7785 5 років тому

    Nice looking bike. Wouldn't mind one me self,might even have to downgrade from my 1982 CX 500 for it!

  • @chello885
    @chello885 5 років тому

    How much a custom paint job for the tank? Could be worth getting the black and putting the £300 towards a custom tank .

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Depends who does it and what finish. But that should be enough for a single colour paint job in solid paint

  • @sandorvasas611
    @sandorvasas611 4 роки тому

    factory suspensions are hell too hard for eastern european roads.

  • @markjacobs6294
    @markjacobs6294 5 років тому

    A twin cylinder hooligan bike that sits similar to a Speed Triple. This and the new Scram 12 are in class of their own. Well done T!

  • @andrewr6425
    @andrewr6425 5 років тому

    Lovely bike and stylish. Glad the seat height is more sensible than the twin . I’m not ready to chop in my Twin yet but when I do this could be a contender.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yep, a better bike for the taller/bigger rider

  • @alexmorgan3435
    @alexmorgan3435 5 років тому

    Just found your channel. Good review.
    I loved the Thruxton R not because I like cafe racers but just loved the look of the Thruxton R and spec of it. You're saying the Speed Twin is possibly better i.e. lighter to ride, more flickable, as weighs less and quicker because it is a little lighter? Does it have Ohlins suspension as well?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Thanks, yes possibly quicker not better, although not very much in it but I’d like to try them back to back. I reviewed the Thruxton r quite some time ago and loved it. No ohlins on the Speed twin

  • @victorstennis
    @victorstennis 4 роки тому

    How many inches lower can this bike be reasonably lowered too...I am 5' 5" ...is this bike even an option

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому

      Kinda depends on your inside leg measurement, I think it could be ok. You wouldn’t want to lower it much

  • @vambo152
    @vambo152 5 років тому +1

    Nice video very informative.

  • @turboman6680
    @turboman6680 5 років тому +4

    I know it's a personal opinion of some folk but how can people be disappointed with the performance of the STREET twin? Its got 54bhp for crying out loud. I've been riding 100+ bhp bikes now for 10 years and I'm genuinely having a blast with the torque of the STREET twin. Having said that, i'll be having one of these probably!

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Exactly, I never had an issue with it, but it’s evident that some people do. Unless they are not actually owners commenting online and are just looking at the spec sheets? You can be a proper hooligan on this if you want too though, the front wheel was losing contact with the ground on some ‘spirited’ departures from traffic lights (in road mode)

    • @ericb252
      @ericb252 5 років тому +1

      The problem with the Street twin is the massive HP degradation as you rev it out. Lots of torque for sure but they handicapped it.
      Will be trading it in for this bike :)

    • @karlosh9286
      @karlosh9286 5 років тому +1

      I don't get how the 200 BHP sports bike brigade actually really use their machines, unless they're on regular Track days. It must be frustrating having to be so gentle on the throttle. Maybe they don't mind riding bans, incarceration, a visit to A&E or the morgue.

    • @heythere6983
      @heythere6983 5 років тому

      when a Harley has 70 hp everyone whines, but everyone loves the triumphs lol

    • @alexmorgan3435
      @alexmorgan3435 5 років тому

      @@karlosh9286 Charming.

  • @timphoto83ec
    @timphoto83ec 4 роки тому

    Its in the details isnt it. Thats why i bought my first Guzzi over the Bonie. Nothing seems to go together with the Triumphs

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  4 роки тому +1

      Generally I think the detailing is well done, but this bit seemed neither one thing or the other.

  • @JonathanBijos
    @JonathanBijos 3 роки тому

    The authentic Street Twin upgrade.
    Will be getting mine 2021 hopefully!

  • @splodge5714
    @splodge5714 5 років тому

    Nice review. Would the Scrambler 1200XE be better on those lanes?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Possibly, I’m hoping to find out soon 😉

  • @ypirnay
    @ypirnay 5 років тому

    Hello, Tony. Nice and complete review, as usual ...but, I wonder: what is the « proverbial » that sticks to the blanket? 🤔

  • @AkaAndyKnuckles
    @AkaAndyKnuckles 5 років тому

    Like your style. Did you ever ride the last generation Yamaha XJR1300? If yes; how does it compare to the Street Twin?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Cheers, and sadly I’ve not had an opportunity to ride an XJR, but I would imagine it’s a different beast entirely.

  • @alexmorgan3435
    @alexmorgan3435 5 років тому

    Had Triumph given The Speed Twin 120bhp it would have been an absolute winner. Still a bit too slow compared even to the slowest sports bike. Can't see why anyone would buy a Street Twin. It's so under powered. The Thruxtion R is such a pretty bike. Even though a tad lighter this Speed Twin still looks heavier. Triumph needs to upgrade the Thruxton R in terms of performance. It's been out a few years now and needs fettling.
    For me the most interesting Triumphs are the Speed Triple RS and the new Daytona hopefully coming 2020.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Interesting view, although I’m not sure another 20hp would make that much difference for a bike of this sort, which is also why I don’t why it would be compared to any sports bike? Having owned one, I can see plenty of reasons why someone would buy a Street Twin, its such a fun bike to ride. Just looking at spec sheets and numbers doesn’t give any indication to how a bike ‘rides’....

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Interesting view, although I’m not sure another 20hp would make that much difference for a bike of this sort, which is also why I don’t why it would be compared to any sports bike? Having owned one, I can see plenty of reasons why someone would buy a Street Twin, its such a fun bike to ride. Just looking at spec sheets and numbers doesn’t give any indication to how a bike ‘rides’....

  • @payton7483
    @payton7483 4 роки тому

    The thruxton smoking had me rolling! won a thumbs up from me.

  • @farric1
    @farric1 5 років тому

    What, no amaryth red? The hallmark colour of the classic speedtwin.

  • @timholt8141
    @timholt8141 5 років тому

    Great video but please ditch the dodgy music. Rather hear the motor. Ta.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Tim Holt Thanks Tim, only 29 seconds of music in a 15 minute video, not that bad is it?!

  • @JK-tu1xx
    @JK-tu1xx 5 років тому

    Triumph needs to introduce some bespoke customization to these old school bikes.. I personally don't really care for the regular forks, give an option to upgrade to inverted forks off of the street triple or speed triple.. Better yet allow the customer to choose what kind of dash that they want, personally I'd like a TFT on a speed twin. It's all about customizing with personal touches on these types of bikes, they need to let the customers get their hand in their and buy the bike that they want not have to settle for something close to it just to modify it..

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Maybe, but that makes manufacture difficult and I guess quite long order times for bespoke builds. Not to mention the cost

    • @JK-tu1xx
      @JK-tu1xx 5 років тому

      How much cost and time would really be involved in just swapping over a display onto a bike? Same with forks really.. They have the parts, it's just part of assembly.

  • @mykhailo.ukraine
    @mykhailo.ukraine 2 роки тому

    +100500 for twin clocks

  • @ostekuste3646
    @ostekuste3646 5 років тому

    Excellent review, Tony. A lot of the details on this bike influenced my decision to buy the Street Cup instead of the Twin. I did like the slightly more aggressive riding position of the Cup as well, but the twin clocks, bar end mirrors, and paintwork were a bonus. I’ve added Motone Monza gas cap, British Customs drag pipes, and a couple other bits, and this suits me perfectly. I honestly like it better than the Thruxton as i found it a stretch to fit on. I guess I basically built a water cooled 900 Thruxton. Beautiful new bike, though. If it had been out I may have taken another look. Cheers.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Chad your bike sounds great, anywhere I can see pics of it?

    • @ostekuste3646
      @ostekuste3646 5 років тому

      Views from the Man Cave thanks! If you go to the TriumphForum, I am there. Look for OsteKuste. That’s an old nickname I’ve had since my younger days of being into vws! I e got a few pics in my gallery you could check out. Cheers!

  • @WesRoberts42
    @WesRoberts42 5 років тому

    11:29 does that exposed frame in the back work as a GoPro mount?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Possibly, I couldn’t fit my mount on it, but I’m sure there will be a solution

  • @stevenhill6214
    @stevenhill6214 5 років тому

    Good day for a review if not totally ideal. I really like this bike and it's equal 1st with the Speedmaster on my wish list. It's got everything you need really and that bit of frame at the back could have been made into a grab rail for pillion use, but then there's no accessory value in that and presumably why they didn't do it, i cant see what it's for either and maybe it's one of those "all will be revealed" things.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      Yep, wasn’t a bad day for this time of year. I suspect that frame rail was possibly left exposed to give the look of a custom ‘loop tail’? I can’t see any other reason for it

    • @splodge5714
      @splodge5714 5 років тому

      Look at an old Norton Commando.

  • @PNRobo
    @PNRobo 5 років тому

    Hi Tony . Perfect review like always. 4 month s ago in yours test video "New Triumph Scrambler 1200 - Press Launch and detailed spec run through" i wrote it that Speed Twin is perfect bike for you. When i saw it first time u was the first person who did i imagine that can be perfect owner. U can make this bike to top form. U did lot of good job on yours Street Twin and u was very inspirating for my Street Cup (i love yours Home Brew Tail Tidy). I hope that this youtube chanel bring this 10k what you need it :D

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Hi Robert, thanks for supporting the channel, 10k subscribers would be great, and i'll try and find a giveaway if I hit that number

    • @PNRobo
      @PNRobo 5 років тому

      @@mancavemoto btw did u saw new rocket 3 ? U have in plan Road Test or is not yours cup of tee ? :)

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому +1

      Not really my thing Robert, but i'd like to give one a test

  • @kiwijeff3102
    @kiwijeff3102 5 років тому

    Love the styling, nice balance. Hate the brake fluid reservoir, wonder if it can be lowered or hidden somehow?

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      That should be an easy job to sort....replacing with a small direct mount pot would look good

    • @kiwijeff3102
      @kiwijeff3102 5 років тому

      Good idea, the Speed Twin is on my list to ride along with the Moto Guzzi Audace, V9 Bobber Sport, and the BMW R Nine T, one of these will be my next bike when I move back to NZ this year.

  • @LeftHandCustoms
    @LeftHandCustoms 3 роки тому

    I love my Speed twin, even more since I took the cat out.

  • @gman913
    @gman913 5 років тому

    I wish my Speedmaster had those twin gauges hate the single gauge setup it came with for a premium bike it's rather cheesy.

    • @mancavemoto
      @mancavemoto  5 років тому

      They were probably going for a specific look....

    • @gman913
      @gman913 5 років тому

      Well it has the looks that's for sure. So mission accomplished on that one I park my bike in front of my record shop on the weekends and people break necks staring at it when driving by. lol