omg ive been trying to figure this out for years. (7:1) i was taught this by a tree service guy that was near retirement and i only got to see it one time. thank you so much!
This was fun to learn! You can also eliminate the friction on the bark if you use a second rope and tie a carabiner to the tree, using that to tie your Truckers Hitch zo
you did not mention the biggest adventage of using a carabinner : You do not have to pass the whole rope through the loop. (very important when you use a long line that you prefer not to cut)
You should check out the Australian Trucker's hitch. Works more like a sheep shank, comes apart far more easily than an alpine butterfly, even after loading it up, and you don't have to feed the rope through... ...because how much would that suck, while you are trying to secure a truckload with a truckload of rope?
Idea for the 7:1 If you put two carabiners in the first loop, both lines can have their separate carabiners to slide friction-free. You loose the self locking, but this way using 3 carabiners... you should get a LOT of mechanical advantage and very wear and tear.
Another useful truckers hitch tool for the belt is the half shank method. It means not having to pass the free end through, which is good if you have a lot of rope, and with practice you can tie it one-handed. It works well with the doubled back (5:1 method) too.
Thanks for the tips! I only have one change in these. Instead of the Alpine HItch, take the Tag End of the rope and toss it over the main line, then reach up ahead of where the tag line crosses over the main line. Grab the main line and make a double-twist, the next stip is to grab the main line behind where the tag line crosses over, create a bite in the line and push it through the double-twisted loop just created. Pulling on the Tag line will tighten the hitch, and. If you want, you can fish the loose end of the Tag lien through the loop created to make a self tightening knot. It’s hard to explain this in words, I hope you can follow what I typed..
Awesome explanation! I was thinking maybe you could have a stand alone loop and put a larks head around the tree and attach a carabiner to it to run the line through that would normally be around the tree. Less wear and tear on your line and less friction. I just thought of this while watching and it might be wrong so someone call me out if that doesn’t make sense lol.
Look at all these knotheads on here 😂❤ it's great how everyone has something to offer. Sir you've helped me understand this rope tightening really well after over 60 years so Kudos 👊
I like to use a half sheep shank in lieu of the alpine butterfly. It has to be tied correctly based on pulling forces or it will collapse toward the pulling direction. But it is much easier to untie.
This video should be called ," Making damn compound leverage hitches so strong, you can pull a tree down, the make another with the bowed tree To tann a giant buffalo..."
that knot is the midshipman's hitch and I agree it is better than taut-line...especially on modern synthetic rope that tends to be stretchy and slippery.
I'm searching for knot but I can't find it anywhere. I'd like to make an auto locking knot to join 2 ropes, for example, tying a shoelace so I can make it tight and when I release it, it keeps tight.
Better yet--depending on your application--grab two poles and tie a windlass instead to really crank up (pun not intended) your mechanical advantage. I've snapped my 600 lb safeload rope this way, so be careful.
There is a lot of great info in this video but for someone trying to learn these knots, it would be helpful if the play speed slowed down as they are being tied rather than playing fast.
there are multiple " trusted" sources of old knowledge that predate the internet called "books" that show either way wrap the last half hitch and still call it a taut-line hitch. Are you aware of any detriment to the knot by wrapping in either direction? I think it comes out about the same...
Off to a bad start. The slipknot is not insecure, it won't close under load if tied the right way around (you pull the working end through, not the standing end) and it is the easiest to undo knot in existence. Only difference to the alpine butterfly is the harsher turns the rope goes which stress and wear the rope a bit faster.
Simple to undo. Not always easy when put under stress. Can require yanking to break the knot. I do agree with you though, I prefer the slipknot to the alpine butterfly for a truckers hitch for speed and simplicity
The slip knot is not easy to undo at all once it has been put under stress. It has been so tight at times that I have had to use a fid or similar tool to undo it. Alpine butterfly would be easier.
A bunch of conflicting advice! " Use a caribiner" to reduce friction... followed by "wrap around the loop twice". Also... "use a spike marlin to get more purchase power"... followed by "use a taut line hitch" (and fumble with trying to slide a knot up to get more tension. They all can't be right!
These are options. It doesn't mean you have to apply them all at once, or that one somehow negates another alternative. What works best will depend on your application and what you're carrying... Whether you have a carabiner, what kind of rope you have, how much tension you need, and so on.
They can absolutely all be right, just not all at once. I thought it was pretty clear from the video that each variation has it’s place if you know how to use it
omg ive been trying to figure this out for years. (7:1) i was taught this by a tree service guy that was near retirement and i only got to see it one time. thank you so much!
This was fun to learn! You can also eliminate the friction on the bark if you use a second rope and tie a carabiner to the tree, using that to tie your Truckers Hitch zo
you did not mention the biggest adventage of using a carabinner : You do not have to pass the whole rope through the loop. (very important when you use a long line that you prefer not to cut)
You should check out the Australian Trucker's hitch. Works more like a sheep shank, comes apart far more easily than an alpine butterfly, even after loading it up, and you don't have to feed the rope through... ...because how much would that suck, while you are trying to secure a truckload with a truckload of rope?
Idea for the 7:1
If you put two carabiners in the first loop, both lines can have their separate carabiners to slide friction-free. You loose the self locking, but this way using 3 carabiners... you should get a LOT of mechanical advantage and very wear and tear.
you can keep the self locking in the 3rd carabiner!
Another useful truckers hitch tool for the belt is the half shank method. It means not having to pass the free end through, which is good if you have a lot of rope, and with practice you can tie it one-handed. It works well with the doubled back (5:1 method) too.
Thanks for the tips! I only have one change in these. Instead of the Alpine HItch, take the Tag End of the rope and toss it over the main line, then reach up ahead of where the tag line crosses over the main line. Grab the main line and make a double-twist, the next stip is to grab the main line behind where the tag line crosses over, create a bite in the line and push it through the double-twisted loop just created. Pulling on the Tag line will tighten the hitch, and. If you want, you can fish the loose end of the Tag lien through the loop created to make a self tightening knot. It’s hard to explain this in words, I hope you can follow what I typed..
Aussie Aussie Aussie
Lost….I gotta see it. Maybe make a video of your idea 😊
Awesome explanation! I was thinking maybe you could have a stand alone loop and put a larks head around the tree and attach a carabiner to it to run the line through that would normally be around the tree. Less wear and tear on your line and less friction. I just thought of this while watching and it might be wrong so someone call me out if that doesn’t make sense lol.
Good idea, makes sense to me! Thanks for watching.
Thank you this will definitely come in handy
Fantastic video, excellent filming and teaching. The best I've seen! THANKS!
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful
I really wanted to understand the mechanical advantage principle, and 7:1 is 🤯! Thx! 🤩
The best video about this topic. Thank you.
That 7:1 is amazing. I can't wait to solo pull a stuck hatchback out the mud
Look at all these knotheads on here 😂❤ it's great how everyone has something to offer. Sir you've helped me understand this rope tightening really well after over 60 years so Kudos 👊
If you use doubled up carabiners, running the rope through twice, the locking effect will be more secure. Excellent explanation video.
I like to use a half sheep shank in lieu of the alpine butterfly. It has to be tied correctly based on pulling forces or it will collapse toward the pulling direction. But it is much easier to untie.
Nicely made video, good going!
Great video and pulley science! Not meaning to be negative at all but it's not really a Halter Hitch. It's just called a Half Hitch tied on a Bight.
This video should be called ," Making damn compound leverage hitches so strong, you can pull a tree down, the make another with the bowed tree To tann a giant buffalo..."
wow the 721 (seven to one) Thing is amazing!
Explain the 721 again❤
Awesome tutorial. Thank you so much!
Excellent! Great explanations. I will try these.
I didn't read all the comments but what are some examples where you'd need all that power of a 7/1 or 5/1? Great video and explanation btw.
Very helpful indeed! Thanks!
On a taut line hitch, when you make the second turn inside the loop make it above the first. Finish as usual. The result holds even better.
that knot is the midshipman's hitch and I agree it is better than taut-line...especially on modern synthetic rope that tends to be stretchy and slippery.
Excellent video
Pretty cool.
Thank you for such an inspiring and excellent video! What brand of carabiner do you use?
Thanks for the comment, which is also inspiring for me to read, completing the circle of inspiration!
Here are the carabiner's used in this video: amzn.to/3QQZq6F
The brand is "Oupeng sky" (just a random amazon brand), 855 lb tensile strength
The engineering calculations of kinematics that's what we called it when I learned it
I'm searching for knot but I can't find it anywhere. I'd like to make an auto locking knot to join 2 ropes, for example, tying a shoelace so I can make it tight and when I release it, it keeps tight.
I like the 5:1 idea. Probably easier with 7:1 position-wise when tying down my kayak on my car. Hopefully not snap my kayak in half. 😂😂
Better yet--depending on your application--grab two poles and tie a windlass instead to really crank up (pun not intended) your mechanical advantage. I've snapped my 600 lb safeload rope this way, so be careful.
Cheers Mate.
What kind of rope is that Sir?
There is a lot of great info in this video but for someone trying to learn these knots, it would be helpful if the play speed slowed down as they are being tied rather than playing fast.
UA-cam had a feature to slow the speed of the video in the settings button on the video
These mechanical advantage exercises are fun, but you don't really need anything beyond a standard trucker hitch in real life.
3:1
Too bad that is not a tauntline hitch.. You wrapped the final wrap the wrong direction.
there are multiple " trusted" sources of old knowledge that predate the internet called "books" that show either way wrap the last half hitch and still call it a taut-line hitch. Are you aware of any detriment to the knot by wrapping in either direction? I think it comes out about the same...
Off to a bad start. The slipknot is not insecure, it won't close under load if tied the right way around (you pull the working end through, not the standing end) and it is the easiest to undo knot in existence. Only difference to the alpine butterfly is the harsher turns the rope goes which stress and wear the rope a bit faster.
Simple to undo. Not always easy when put under stress. Can require yanking to break the knot. I do agree with you though, I prefer the slipknot to the alpine butterfly for a truckers hitch for speed and simplicity
The slip knot is not easy to undo at all once it has been put under stress. It has been so tight at times that I have had to use a fid or similar tool to undo it. Alpine butterfly would be easier.
You call these tutorials?! These are KNOT tutorials.
Knot Funny
A bunch of conflicting advice! " Use a caribiner" to reduce friction... followed by "wrap around the loop twice". Also... "use a spike marlin to get more purchase power"... followed by "use a taut line hitch" (and fumble with trying to slide a knot up to get more tension. They all can't be right!
These are options. It doesn't mean you have to apply them all at once, or that one somehow negates another alternative.
What works best will depend on your application and what you're carrying... Whether you have a carabiner, what kind of rope you have, how much tension you need, and so on.
They can absolutely all be right, just not all at once. I thought it was pretty clear from the video that each variation has it’s place if you know how to use it
It’s like you can’t understand basic concepts or something. Damn, I’m glad I can actually use my brain.
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