Adrian Vermeule "Reviving the Classical Legal Tradition: Common Good Constitutionalism"

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Professor Adrian Vermeule makes the case for what he calls the classical legal tradition, focused on the common good of the community. He contrasts this tradition with both originalism and progressivism. He argues that the tradition needs to be recovered and that promoting a well ordered public community can address the disorder in today's society.
    This lecture is part of the Stranahan National Issues Forum speaker series at the University of Toledo College of Law.

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  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy Рік тому +3

    3:15 Thanks for having prof.
    We’re talking about Common Good Constitutionalism
    4:18 Government is instituted for The Common Good
    6:54 Progressivism & Originalism are mirror images of each other
    9:04 Memory
    Continuity of Tradition
    13:47 Law: A Reasoned Will Ordering Toward The Common Good
    15:53 Peace and Order
    18:01 What Is The Common Good? The Flourishing Of The Well-Ordered Community.
    • Victory of a sports team, victory of all of us and each of us.
    19:17 No man is an island 🏝
    1. Live Honorably
    2. Harm no other person
    3. Give each one what is due to them in Justice
    22:15 Particular Judgement, Prudence.
    27:02 Incorporating without being Positivist
    28:11 Giving One His/Her Due
    30:49 Competitors to the Classical Approach
    36:18
    42:50
    46:40 Polity in decay
    *Questions*
    49:27 Gorsuch, Common Ground. Hard Cases.
    52:37 Different structures
    54:14 Constitution is short, general, ambiguous.

  • @MadisonDamiani
    @MadisonDamiani Рік тому

    Vermeule has the economic luxury to spend his days in thought, and maybe God is speaking to his heart through right reason so that he can share these historic ideas with a world that needs to hear them.

  • @abidd
    @abidd Рік тому +2

    I thought that America was about individualism and not about being part of a society bases on the common good of the collective.

    • @oktavianzamoyski9809
      @oktavianzamoyski9809 Рік тому +5

      That's the liberal tradition, a very problematic tradition (have a look at Edward Feser's "Locke" if you want a primer), but individualism (emphasis on the -ism) is at odds with the natural law, that is, human nature and the human good. We are social animals, not atoms. Our good depends essentially on a common good. Some like to blame the chaos and overall malaise of our times on bad actors---and to be sure, there are bad actors---but the eldritch currents of history have much more to do with bad ideas than bad actors who tend to be opportunists that pale in comparison with the power of bad beliefs. Individualism, like collectivism, is an extremist position that neglects what is true of human beings and what they need to flourish. The liberal notion of freedom understood as the ability to do what one wants is disastrous to both individual and society. As Augustine wrote, this is a recipe for slavery of the most veritable kind. True freedom is to be found in the classical understanding of freedom as the ability to do what one ought.

    • @abidd
      @abidd Рік тому +4

      @@oktavianzamoyski9809 The problem is "who gets to decide what one ought to do"? Are you saying that the state gets to tell us how to live, and to choose for us what will make us happy?
      I think that I know myself better than the state. And what I choose (as long as it does not infringe on anyone else's freedom) should be left up to me.

    • @davidr2299
      @davidr2299 Рік тому +1

      @@oktavianzamoyski9809and who decides what is the common good? 🤡🤡 what is the “common good”. So incredibly subjective. You wouldn’t like it if liberals decided for you what was in the publics best interest huh? So, don’t be a hypocrite and call for the same thing just because it’s YOUR agenda. The second amendment exists to fight all kinds of tyranny. Including Christian tyranny. Don’t forget that!

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 Рік тому

      @@abidd then you are by definition a liberal. What you said can only be described as individualism in its pure form.
      😀
      I see that as problematic.

    • @dansonoflightning2277
      @dansonoflightning2277 4 місяці тому

      ​@@davidr2299The people

  • @johndavidmerritt8437
    @johndavidmerritt8437 Рік тому +3

    It’s really weird hearing this ideology coming from the Federalist Society, because this ideology’s focus on the collective rather than the individual in its logical framework is almost identical to that of socialism.

    • @karlheven8328
      @karlheven8328 Рік тому +1

      Well, that is the problem with antithetical thinking.
      Going back to the roots of natural law inevitavly has to upset those who believe that we have overcome the tradition (that is also present in the catholic social teachings) via the liberalism (classical) socialism dichotomy.
      In my view though, such a 'small government' libertarianism is not sufficient for a holistic conservative judicial philosophy.
      And textualism and originalism are well intentioned but fail whenever one has to infer moral judgment which in some cases is necessary. And Textualists forget that the context that according to Scalia is important in reading a statute is also something that has to be evaluated based on value judgments.
      In conclusion I do not think that the natural law tradition is akin to socialism.
      In contrast I believe that the mainstream conservativism in the US has a very individualistic bent which is not necessarily good for the wider public for which the law (also) exists, not just for the individuals but for the community.
      I do believe that the natural law tradition is well-suited to find the right balance between individualism and the community.
      The common good certainly can also be fulfilled in individuals but not exclusively

  • @MadisonDamiani
    @MadisonDamiani Рік тому

    Recondita harmonia…di teorie legali diverse...

  • @ev3goddess
    @ev3goddess Рік тому +1

    ~*❤ lord€ holyspiriot understands iii need revival