For Curl Dealge below , the "stooker " or flat 8 sledge as we call them here , is a George Browns " compactor" type , made in Leighton Buzzard , Bedfordshire , there are at least 2 main types of Browns sledge , the other one , that I liked , used to arrange the centre rows of bales on the other right - angle , which made the layers of 8 stack & ride the trailer better , called the "contractor " type . Browns are still going , but I don,t know if they still make conventional bale handling equipment , they are the area leading Kubota dealers now . For Mr Box , it,s great to see the Massey - Ferguson equipment still being used , I,ve done thousands upon thousands of bales this way with virtually identical kit . For the guy with the knotter problem below , these knotters are sensitive to string tension on the little plate on the back of the string box , it provides a braking effect on the string as it is pulled out of the carrier box , I found by experience , & by being re - educated by the then British Ropes field engineer , who was a Geordie gentleman , ( native of Newcastle - upon - Tyne , where the twine factory used to be , now an art gallery ! ) to only use STRAWBERRY COLOURED POLYPROPYLENE HAY TWINE with these knotters , also set the twine tension plate pressure mentioned above so that you can just quite comfortably pull each string singly through the tension plate assembly with your forefinger & thumb alone , using no wrist or arm movement , heavier than that is too tight , slacker than that will make the string simply fly out in a big arc & miss the knotters completely as the needles whip up , try to rethread the knotters as part of the tying cycle , then fly down again out the way & park . The knotters have to catch the string in a little groove formed in the outside of the knotter body , between the knotter body & the hooked end of the twine clip , milliseconds before the knotter body revolves 1/2 a turn & traps the string between the body & outside twine clip . IT,S JUST SO FAST YOU CAN,T SEE IT , but I found out by hand winding the baler through one complete tying cycle , also , the knotter bill hook assemblies are quite strong tubular steel / nickel alloy , these look like a steel shaft straight down through the centre of the knotter , they are certainly not solid metal , but tubular , & have a simple powerful spring , follower , & needle inside them , retained by a tiny roll - pin ,that preloads the bill hook catch right down under the bottom of the knotter , this assembly can get dry , corroded , filled up with chaff & rubbish . Without losing the timing , remove each knotter , strip down just this assembly , blow all rubbish out & lightly lubricate it , then re-assemble , & plug the top of the drive tube , silicon sealer does it o.k. , make your own special tool out of a 5/16 dia setscrew & a bit of welding rod to preload the spring a little more , to get the roll - pin out & back in without damaging or losing it. Don,t use sharp ended punches , use parralel ground drifts , ( sometimes called pin - punches ) . These knotters are always doing 1/2 of each knot per tying cycle ; tying cycle 1 - 1st 1/2 of 1st knot , tying cycle 2 - 2nd 1/2 of 1st knot & 1st 1/2 of 2nd knot , tying cycle 3 - 2nd 1/2 of 2nd knot & 1st 1/2 of 3rd knot & so on & so on. Right , hope this helps , Best Regards from a lifelong Massey - Ferguson fan in Central England , Happy Spanners .
2 124's offered for sale locally today - must have been a lot of them around - so old, now - but that 128... not seen one for years. Sounded like baler should - but the 165 ? worked afew and never sounded like that ! - are they still going - 6yrs on ? a grand outfit together, adequate power for the job, especially with the Multipower.
I believe it's made by a firm called browns....they are also made by another company called cooks... we generally refer to them as flat 8 sledges as they leave bales in packs of 8 which can be picked up by a special grab that can either stack them say 8 layers deep and be then picked up by a special trailer or loaded onto a traditional trailer stacked manually by a helper
Matt it's just barely slow enough. "Grabbing a gear" would increase ground speed excessively and either bog the baler or leave unbaled hay on the ground
Depends on the tractor. If she is fitted with an 8 speed box it might be difficult to find one. A 12 speed ( i.e. 6 speed plus Multipower) then you might find a slightly faster speed. All our Masseys had the Multipower transmission except The 135 which had the standard 6 speed box which was a little bit frustrating at times.
Going to guess that's 3rd-low on a 165 (probably not a multi-power model), the next step would be 1st-high, probably too fast. Bumpy looking ground in places.. :/
So many crap comments! I have watched it twice on the bounce now. Keep up the good work thanks for posting
For Curl Dealge below , the "stooker " or flat 8 sledge as we call them here , is a George Browns " compactor" type , made in Leighton Buzzard , Bedfordshire , there are at least 2 main types of Browns sledge , the other one , that I liked , used to arrange the centre rows of bales on the other right - angle , which made the layers of 8 stack & ride the trailer better , called the "contractor " type . Browns are still going , but I don,t know if they still make conventional bale handling equipment , they are the area leading Kubota dealers now .
For Mr Box , it,s great to see the Massey - Ferguson equipment still being used , I,ve done thousands upon thousands of bales this way with virtually identical kit .
For the guy with the knotter problem below , these knotters are sensitive to string tension on the little plate on the back of the string box , it provides a braking effect on the string as it is pulled out of the carrier box , I found by experience , & by being re - educated by the then British Ropes field engineer , who was a Geordie gentleman , ( native of Newcastle - upon - Tyne , where the twine factory used to be , now an art gallery ! ) to only use STRAWBERRY COLOURED POLYPROPYLENE HAY TWINE with these knotters , also set the twine tension plate pressure mentioned above so that you can just quite comfortably pull each string singly through the tension plate assembly with your forefinger & thumb alone , using no wrist or arm movement , heavier than that is too tight , slacker than that will make the string simply fly out in a big arc & miss the knotters completely as the needles whip up , try to rethread the knotters as part of the tying cycle , then fly down again out the way & park . The knotters have to catch the string in a little groove formed in the outside of the knotter body , between the knotter body & the hooked end of the twine clip , milliseconds before the knotter body revolves 1/2 a turn & traps the string between the body & outside twine clip . IT,S JUST SO FAST YOU CAN,T SEE IT , but I found out by hand winding the baler through one complete tying cycle , also , the knotter bill hook assemblies are quite strong tubular steel / nickel alloy , these look like a steel shaft straight down through the centre of the knotter , they are certainly not solid metal , but tubular , & have a simple powerful spring , follower , & needle inside them , retained by a tiny roll - pin ,that preloads the bill hook catch right down under the bottom of the knotter , this assembly can get dry , corroded , filled up with chaff & rubbish . Without losing the timing , remove each knotter , strip down just this assembly , blow all rubbish out & lightly lubricate it , then re-assemble , & plug the top of the drive tube , silicon sealer does it o.k. , make your own special tool out of a 5/16 dia setscrew & a bit of welding rod to preload the spring a little more , to get the roll - pin out & back in without damaging or losing it. Don,t use sharp ended punches , use parralel ground drifts , ( sometimes called pin - punches ) . These knotters are always doing 1/2 of each knot per tying cycle ; tying cycle 1 - 1st 1/2 of 1st knot , tying cycle 2 - 2nd 1/2 of 1st knot & 1st 1/2 of 2nd knot , tying cycle 3 - 2nd 1/2 of 2nd knot & 1st 1/2 of 3rd knot & so on & so on. Right , hope this helps , Best Regards from a lifelong Massey - Ferguson fan in Central England , Happy Spanners .
We clearly have different perspectives on “old school.”
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Old school with a baler means having a wagon and a person stacking.
Amen
Me too.used to have to pick it off the ground and put on a trailer that was 4 feet off the ground a lot for a teenage kid.1960s
I had a baler like that best of the best
Nice job!
Simple yet effective
2 124's offered for sale locally today - must have been a lot of them around - so old, now - but that 128... not seen one for years. Sounded like baler should - but the 165 ? worked afew and never sounded like that ! - are they still going - 6yrs on ? a grand outfit together, adequate power for the job, especially with the Multipower.
I want a 128! Currently running a no3 and probably will end up with a no12.
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Can this baler be used with compact/mini tractor?
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It seems them days are on way back
Nice video
Old school? Where's your pitchfork?
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Simple et efficace
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Amen to that.
How is this old school?? because they don't have brand new equipment
Might be due to the fact that the 165 came out before 1968!
@@jwrobin21 Still not old school.
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Eventually they will be because the MF's would outlast any other tractor.
We had MF's that are over 50 years old and still going strong.
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Can anybody name the maker or model of that stooker? I'd really like to get one, or rebuild one!
I believe it's made by a firm called browns....they are also made by another company called cooks... we generally refer to them as flat 8 sledges as they leave bales in packs of 8 which can be picked up by a special grab that can either stack them say 8 layers deep and be then picked up by a special trailer or loaded onto a traditional trailer stacked manually by a helper
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I didn't know Massey Ferguson made a baler
hi, have you ever had any trouble with the knotters of this baler?
@@johnogara3029 The International balers improved when they brought out the D series with The Rasspe knotters (e.g. 445D)
As I remember with a 124 you had to keep them right up to speed to push the knots off properly would go forever and never miss a beat
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i would grab a gear
Matt it's just barely slow enough. "Grabbing a gear" would increase ground speed excessively and either bog the baler or leave unbaled hay on the ground
Depends on the tractor. If she is fitted with an 8 speed box it might be difficult to find one. A 12 speed ( i.e. 6 speed plus Multipower) then you might find a slightly faster speed. All our Masseys had the Multipower transmission except The 135 which had the standard 6 speed box which was a little bit frustrating at times.
Going to guess that's 3rd-low on a 165 (probably not a multi-power model), the next step would be 1st-high, probably too fast. Bumpy looking ground in places.. :/
Could easily go up a gear !
going to slow
MF balers never as fast as New Holland or Welger
Easily! ua-cam.com/video/_EBsmqpgfJ8/v-deo.html
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This is not an old-school Baylor
Baler.
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