Did I get scammed? - Opening a sealed copy of Rule of Rose
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- My sealed copy of Rule of Rose has arrived from Italy! Let's crack it open and find out if it is legit or not.
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I told you people this is a legit copy. Seriously there are so many others in group trying to say it is fake, it is all market manipulation. I can't believe they have been selling this for months and kept it from us.
Thank you for confirming it. I bought one for myself as a birthday present. This is the best opportunity and most affordable price we will ever get to have it. So Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I just hope a few others managed to get one too.
Hoping this dips down into the £80-£120 price range for an unsealed one.
Same. I really wanna own a copy of Rule of Rose but the current price is extremely steep, even if it is cheaper than it was.
Trust me, they will. The market will be saturated with them in a few months time. The rumours of them finding a warehouse full of them destined for the UK in Italy is true. I bought 3 copies and took a couple down to CeX and kept hold of one for myself. Opened them and they took them into a backroom and came back 20 minutes later and they said they were genuine. They were bouncing about with excitement and you would think that someone from CeX would have picked up on this by now. Probably bottom out at around 120/50 quid.
@@thenorthernsoulmusicchanne8939 Apparently there are 10,000 UK copies printed. I doubt 10,000 people want it and a lot of people buying it are trying to flip, that with all the investors selling off their italian copies before it crashes even more means there'll be plenty for sale.
@@thenorthernsoulmusicchanne8939 i dont think they will ever go for that cheap, the ebay dealers just to get them have to buy rule of rose lets say for 150 bucks from the distributor (not saying the actual price) and need to buy additional games for 50% of the money they spent on rule of roses. The buying price is just too high for it to be sold for so low later on. My guess is, is that we´re at the bottom of the market right now, it will stay like this for a while and then a year later or so it will climb a bit again. But that will also only happen if 505games is actually sold out already as ive confirmed with my dealer when i tried to get some master cases a month ago. But i guess my comment is just a time capsule for now, for me coming back in a few years and see if i were completely off or not :D
@@NinjaFaceGamesthey were selling this game for £500 which is beyond ridiculous when you can just emulate it for free 😏
I don't bother with discontinued PS2 games that go over $100 US. I feel justified in pirating them and playing them on emulator at that point.
Agreed, no official way to support the creators / devs = pirate, simple as.
Totally agree with you 100%. Why pay some greedy bastard a ton of money who had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the game. Just in it to make very easy money.
As a collector,
if you want the real thing, it's gonna cost ya.
@@ekahnoman7331if we're talking about a car, sure. But this is a videogame, the "real thing" are the bits. The disc and case are just containers. The case contains the disc and the disc contains the game.
@DioBrando-qr6ye
You could say that about comics or baseball cards too, "it's just paper, it's about the content inside".
But realistically, it's about the fact that you're holding a piece of history.
And if hypothetically, you had the only one left, how amazing it is to own something so rare and desirable.
And even beyond that, it's the sentimental value of your young early experiences with that game, comic book, or baseball card.
Hope they find some copies of more 505 games, maybe Michigan Escape From Hell or Dragon Blaze, I'd like to get them but don't want to pay too much for them.
Not pay too much now anyway, buy Michigan Report From Hell for £400 second hand and then they find a warehouse full of them sealed 🤣🤣🤣
Great video again! Thank you, I took the plunge and am glad I did! I look forward to receiving mine now!
congrats on obtaining a copy.
This is one of my top favorite horror games of all time. I bought mine new when it released in the united states. I still have my pristine complete copy of this game yet.
Controls are that bad. It certainly adds to the challenge though. lol Nice soundtrack and the story in this game hits hard.
I grabbed myself a copy. This was my holy grail and I can’t believe I have it. Not even the Italian version, the actual UK version!
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. I was getting 2 different listings from the same seller oddly enough. At first, it was showing as $450, but after searching more closely, the other at $322.63 USD came up. So don't fall for the former if you're ordering from the USA! :)
I just watched recently another unboxing video of a sealed copy Rule of Rose bought from the same source and it's legit. He replied from a comment and said his PS2 isn't modded so only legit copies can be played.
Hoping Kuon and Haunting Ground will have the same treatment. Also €200+ is still quite expensive but I wonder if used copies will become more cheaper in upcoming days?
The PS2 I used in the video is also not modded. Old Bessie there is my stock travel PS2. She has done the rounds over the years, bless her.
There is a chance that we could see a decent drop in price for either opened copies or copies that aren't mint (due to the overabundance of sealed ones). That would be great!
Really enjoyed your Rose videos. I've subbed, hope you carry on doing UA-cam videos, you've got a very nice, relaxed and gently funny presenting style. Love to watch more
Ok I've just bitten the bullet and bought a brand new & sealed PAL copy from the same seller in Italy. The most I've ever spent on a video game. Nervous but excited for when it arrives.
What ridiculous price did you pay for it?
Saw they were selling this game in cex for £500 I was like that is absolutely ridiculous
Hi there can I ask did you get stung with import tax around 20% on top of the total price?
Had a discussion with you about this on a PS2 Facebook group where I raised my suspicions due to the recent Italian counterfeiting ring that was busted
But this has convinced me, they are legit.
I sold my French language one a few years ago (the UK one was always astronomically priced)
Good, informative video
Thanks! I don't use Facebook though so someone else must have shared it on there '^^
From what I have read, the counterfeiting ring focused on 16-bit consoles and cartridge games. It was concerning though when the article first appeared 2 days after I made the first video '^^
@@gamegaijin yeah, I had replied to the guy on FB but he said it wasn’t his video after all
I stopped collecting a while back so not buying one myself (only ever had a FR Rule of Rose before I sold it) but glad that collectors can get the UK version now
I remember a guy on the groups a year or so ago turning down £1500 offers when fishing for a price
That was me, i wasnt claiming to be this youtuber, but i was claiming i got it from the same supplier as him but i wanted to assure everyone that it is, cause for some reason the group wont let me post the ebay link despite not violating the rules, i think someone within the admins is trying to hide it so as not to encourage others to buy it. which sucks.
Thanks for sharing my video around! I am sure it was a big help in getting eyes on it.
I hope your copy arrives safely and has minimal manual damage like mine.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love minor misunderstanding, I thought it was your video initially. I think most groups don’t allow eBay links as they like to do sales on the groups?
If you just post the title of the auction listing on the PS2 group I’m sure it will be allowed and other collectors can get this game
yes to be real there is a couple of playstation logos in the disc itself and the boxart should have a hologram
I would not play it on the slim one. The laser ribon cable are know to circle scratching the games, your best play in glorious PS2 Fat.😊
Thanks for the heads up! I will make sure to unearth my chunky PS2 before streaming later.
Take this comment seriously if you value this game as much as it seems. @@gamegaijin
yep, i scratched up one of my games this way. I might be able to salvage my copy of Castlevania Curse of Darkness.
I need to eventually get a fat PS2 so i can enjoy my games once more.
nobody made a joke about 03:15 no? just me? ok...
Waking up on a cold winter morning
I think you should of spent the money on a new pair of scissors!
Man these videos got me, i gotta stop making midnight random buys. Mine took a week to get to the USA. If anyone is interested
Chuffed to bits for you! Looking forward to watching the stream while building my IKEA bed 😂
Did you have to pay import tax on them? Wondering as I want to purchase one myself
Crazy how if it doesn't have the postcard on the manual the value goes down by hundreds of pounds.
Congratulations 🎉
Am I the only one who opens games with a razor blade, keeps the plastic wrap as dust cover and flips the manual over so its easier to remove from the case?
It's a shame all the edge titles on the PS2 game sleeves are uniform and uninteresting. Everything else looks great!
Glad to hear. Im saving my copy for october
If they're still available I am gonna cop next month when I have some disposable income lol
Did you get a tracking number for your game? I bought it from the same guy and it doesn't have a tracking number from the economy shipping from Italy. I don't know if it's gonna get here safely.
I can confirm i did not get a track code on mine either. It seems they all are without track codes.
Mine turned up safe and sound
Nice, now you can get a free copy 😜
How long it took?
Has it arrived? How long it took?
Man the temptation is so strong but I'm really struggling to convince myself to pay so much for a game. Do you think it'd go down any more?
I hope it does! There is a good chance that a bunch of sealed copies hitting the market will impact the price of opened ones.
The thing to do is ask yourself "Can you afford it? If you can but don't buy it and the price goes up, will you be sad about it?".
Or just tell yourself it is only 50 Bison dollars ^^
not from the seller tough, they have been steadily rising the price again. They started at 250 euros now it is at 300 my guess as more copies are running out, the more the price increases.
@@Bird-Birdy-Lovejust emulate it I say
@@therunawaykid6523 Yeah but i can play it, emulate it and have a good retirement investment lol
Messes me up that the cartridge isn’t black
It's 340 Pound plus postage now.
Make sure you have the listing that is in Italian. That version is only €299 (£250~) and is still the PAL UK version.
@@gamegaijin Yep! found it. Thanks for the tip!
Is any game worth that price???
@@therunawaykid6523
No, not really.
Though, I guess if there are people willing to pay that money, the prices can't drop much, can they?
It’s been proven to be legit. The boxes were found in a closed down distribution warehouse. You lucked out. Keep it safe. There limited copies I think they said about a thousand. So get it while it’s hot. Unfortunately the games value has taken a severe hit and is likely to stay well below its initial value with an additional 1k copies floating around now. Keep in mind this is the Italian version. There is a pal rule of rose uk version with the uk flag on the back cover still very valuable out there.
This is actually the PAL UK version with the Union Jack on the back! Check out my video from last week where I did some sleuthing and covered this in detail ^^
Why is that unfortunate that the value has gone down? That's a good thing... And we can only hope it goes down further, making them accessible to more people.
@@symphony137 it is accessible to everyone. you can get it in rom format.
if you dont like expensive games get a different hobby. People like you with that lame excuse about a game being accessible to all when you have plenty of options. All your saying is your cheap or broke to buy a particular game. 90% of games are very affordable. If you really want a game money is no obstacle unless you have none. But what really burst my bubble is if you had the game you'd be posting on UA-cam bragging about how you got it for a dollar. Respect the expensive games they are costly for valid reasons. If you can't deal with that your in the wrong hobby.
@@gamegaijinoh dam so you golden. Congrats enjoy the game and keep it safe when your done.
I streamed it last week and I am really enjoying it so far. Looking forward to continuing it on Friday.
How long did it take for delivery?
About a week and a half.
so. that means that the market for this game and probably for so many games that are called HOLY GRAIL, RARE and such, are manipulated. There are thousands of the game - most of them sealed - kept away for long time to raise the prices and then sell them off at a good time. I guess we all overpaid all our games as so many might be not even rare. Someone stocked them knowing what will happen after some time :-) I am in the wrong business for sure. LOL. Even 300 EUROS for Rule of Rose seems now overpriced. But so many copies were already sold by just one seller. Lucky shop! Good job. I mean it. The best way to do business.
No thats not how it works, just because 1 game had a crazy story and cuz of that wasnt sold and stored doesnt mean any game out there got the same story?!
It's not like someone was intentionally keeping them hidden from the rest of the world in some secret vault... The game's European publisher is located in Italy. It's not really that wild when shelved copies are found, especially these specific ones which were intended for the UK where the game was banned, hence never sold.
There are 2 listings on eBay with the one in Italian being £90 cheaper but I can’t see any difference between the two. It still says PAL, it’s still all English on the back and the Union Jack is present, do you know what the difference is?
I mentioned it in my first video, but I couldn't see any difference between the two outside of price. I picked up the cheaper Italian language listing and can confirm it is the PAL UK version.
Ok thank you!
Havent dives too far into it but all i keep seeing are people tieing this back to that fake italian counterfit ring that hot busted?
From what I have read they focused on 16-bit consoles and cartridge games. These are legit copies of the game from when it was pulled from the shelves before release (see my previous video for more info ^^)
@@gamegaijin ah fair enough. In all honesty I think we are almost at the point where no one will be able to tell certain fakes apart anyways. As long as I can play the games then 🤷
Did you get hit by the import tax?
From what I hear, it's hit and miss when it comes to import fees. Some people have said they had to pay them whilst others said they didn't. So I would only buy under the assumption you will have to pay them and if you get lucky, it's a bonus. 😊
@@matthewhill7937 Yep I got hit £65...!!!
You better not play this game on ps2 slim the orange ribbon cable could damage it better play expensive games on a fat model
did u get hit with import fees
From what I hear, it's hit and miss when it comes to import fees. Some people have said they had to pay them whilst others said they didn't. So I would only buy under the assumption you will have to pay them and if you get lucky, it's a bonus. 😊
I’m still trying to understand how the back of the manual is damaged if it’s sealed? Heavy handed guys in factory??
Maybe?
I have looked at a few copies in CEX now and the damage is consistent enough for me to believe it is a manufacturing issue (but damage is normally at both the top and bottom of the manual, so I got lucky).
They were packed by hand (most still are). This stuff doesn't come off the printing line perfect either. I'd wager QC didn't toss many for imperfections.
@@SpookyDollhouse most dont even come with manuals anymore
@@kidrobot. Paper inserts and other such things packed at the same media pressing facilities have similar issues. It's not exclusive to games despite rarely including manuals anymore.
Its a result of the manual holder. And when the case is being flipped around all over the place during delivery the manual is sliding up and down in the plastic clips which hold it in place and it's scuffing away at the manual.
Wow. How much did that cost ????
I got it for around £250 (before customs).
Check out my previous video for more info ^^
@@gamegaijin im thinking of taking the plunge, what was the customs fee (hopefully not too much)?
@@jrc16ify Customs is usually 20% plus handling fee. From what I hear, it's hit and miss when it comes to import fees. Some people have said they had to pay them whilst others said they didn't. So I would only buy under the assumption you will have to pay them and if you get lucky, it's a bonus. 😊
@@matthewhill7937cheers good shout, worth factoring 20% on top (£55ish based on the Euro version at GameSpark 92) plus handling fee. The UK version is going for £340 which may be the same as the Euro one in the end.
I got a repro copy with freemcboot patch and a freemcboot card, just to play it on an unmodified ps2. I like the game and the story but the combat is awful🤣.
This is not good for me!!
What a tragedy. Vintage games are meant to be left sealed and graded
No, they're not. This is exactly what ruined the whole market for old games. These grading companies are the worst. Games are meant to be played, not used as an asset by people who don't even give a shit about them.
I bought 3 copies and you have saved me a job of opening mine. Keeping one copy for myself and getting rid of a couple at Cex for vouchers before the market is absolutely flooded with them. Subscribed.
Ahhh seeing that collectors like buying crap games for clout/shovelware. Maybe for Europe this is a thing due to it being banned, but here in NA it's a crappy game. You could literally buy it in a bargain bin for 10- 15 dollars at the time. It was kinda released at the end of PS2 career. Add insult to injury, 250 pounds is roughly 450.00 CAD. Ouch....
Collectors like to collect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg
It wasn't banned in Europe. It only got expensive because people found out it was great too late and there isn't enough copies to go around. Learn about supply and demand.
@@SpookyDollhouse So the demand for a poorly received game selling for hundreds of dollars and to what? collect more dust on the shelves or to actually break the seal and play the game? Which in other words means for clout, bragging rights.
@@GrindingMadness It sells for hundreds unsealed because people want to have it to play it. (The dude posting the video even unseals his to play) There's definitely scalpers and 'investors' in on the mix though driving demand and price. As for it being poorly received, game journalists had no taste then and doubly so now. Easy as pie!
This game has quite the cult following and fans. If the mainstream media thinks something is bad, that doesn't mean people won't like it. I love this game, it's easily in my top 5 PS2 games. And this is certainly not shovelware... I suggest you look into its creators and their history.
Blue case is a dead giveaway the first second you took it out of the box
PS4 games are in a blue case. PS2 games are in a black case. 💫🎮🦍
European PS2 games came in blue cases.
Yep. Early blue disc games came in black cases but the majority of the European library has a blue case. Which I prefer personally.
Well not all ps2 cases are, the platinum versions are in grey cases at least here in uk
@@therunawaykid6523 True. I had forgotten about the platinum cases.
How to say you're American without saying you're American 😅
So you paid £257 and call that cheap? OMG. I'd also like to play this game just because I've heard about it for years but I'll wait til it's £30 lol and even that is expensive for me!! I like your content. Will you be showing any of your gameplay on UA-cam?
Well, relatively speaking it is cheap. It is not every day I spend that amount of money on a game. This was definitely a special occasion.
I plan on uploading the stream vods over on the Game Gaijin VODs channel. I should have done it this week but got sidetracked with stuff for my next video '^^
It's kind of scam... But for other reasons. The PAL conversion for Rule of Rose is not the best, it's bordered and doesn't run at the correct speed, and there's no 60hz option buried in a menu to fix this. It's the least desirable version if you want to actually play the game and should command a lower price.
You have such great production quality I thought you had been making UA-cam videos forever!
lolwut
I bought one at the same store and opened it, yes, it’s original but people didn’t understand why I unsealed it 😂
To play with right? Games are meant to be played after all ^^
@@gamegaijin that’s the fact, the buried me under hate comments, but I WANT TO PLAY my game! I recovered it thanks to them ‘cause we lost it a few years ago in a moving.
Any reason you opened a mint copy . I assume you didn't pay much?
If you check out my previous video I mention where it came from and how much I paid (just ￡250). I also talk a bit about my (apparently somehwat controversial?) philosophy that games are meant to be played.
These UK copies currently go for around 300 euro and more. It's cheaper than the game was before but far from "not much". And people open games to play them...
I burned this on a disc a while ago
Best thing to do paying a ridiculous price just to own it is ludicrous imo