Þrymskviða: Thor Gets His Hammer Back
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2017
- Þrymskviða (often spelled Thrymskvida) is one of the most famous poems of the Poetic Edda, telling of the time Thor had to put on a wedding dress to get his stolen hammer (Mjǫllnir) back.
Dr. Jackson Crawford is Instructor of Nordic Studies and Nordic Program Coordinator at the University of Colorado Boulder (formerly UC Berkeley and UCLA). He is a historical linguist and an experienced teacher of Old Norse, Modern Icelandic, and Norwegian. FAQs: • Video
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I have read this poem in translation many times, but it was so interesting to learn about the "pun" Loke makes by using the neuter "we two" when he goes forth in disguise as Thor's bridesmaid. It isn't a joke that is knowable to us unless we know the language...or watch Dr. Jackson Crawford!
+ megin na It's an esoteric pleasure, isn't it, enjoying puns in one's "other" languages! (A pleasure that other "language nerds" like us can understand!)
This was great! I enjoy hearing how the translation affects the meaning. Thank you for making these videos! I would have loved to have taken your class.
I love this story, this is the first story in the Eddas that I read, and what got me interested in Norse Folklore
Dr. Crawford! This is one of your best so far. Equal parts entertaining and informative. I really like that you delved a bit into meaning, as regards Heimdallr as "the whitest".
For as funny as the end of the narrative is, imagine how horrifying from the perspective of the Jotun; you're at a wedding and everyone is happy then the bride reveals herself to be the nightmare of your entire clan made flesh and she proceeds to smash the heads in of your whole family.
Maybe this is also a cautionary tale about getting married. I've see quite a few " Freyja" brides in time reveal themselves to be nightmares made flesh.
I think this calls for a rebranding of the term "bride-zilla"
Hahaha
I love the idea of looking at it from the perspective of the Jotun.
This was SUCH A JOY to listen to! I know this story, but you have added so much by giving us cultural context, and pointing out the linguistic insinuation... I felt like I was listening to it for the first time. The added context made me think of sitting around at night, listening to the storyteller weave this tale under the stars, as everyone laughs occasionally at the subtle puns and bawdy inferences... DO MORE OF THESE, PLEASE :-D
For people who want this story as a song (in German), there's Wingthor's Hammer by Equilibrium. ;)
What a hilarious story! I'm glad that the Marvel movies incorporate a bit of the buddy-cop duo for Thor and Loki, even if the rest of their mythology is completely wrong.
The hammer is similar though haha.
It's better in the comics. And this story is canon there.
honestly i love the poems where Thor and Loki are "mismatched buddies" especially the one where they are accompanied by roskva and tjalfi and get fooled by the giant and all that (sorry i forget what its called). anyway this video was super helpful!! i loved learning about the pun with tvau, it's really funny,, i interpret that as Loki sort of poking fun at himself, not at Thor, just because of how he acts around Thor in this story (like in the beginning Thor says he knows Loki isn't crazy enough to steal his hammer). great video!!
Thor's Journey to Utgard (Útgarða-Loki), where Thor can't empty the drinking horn and is wrestling with aging itself. I would love to see Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston in a movie adaption. Directed by Taika Waititi!!
Great video
Thank you Doc.
I Love Norse mythology.
Love this poem, it's one of my favorites in any language. One of the better narrative poems out there, in my opinion, it's actually one of the first poems I recited on my channel.
How giants can stole Mjölnir, if Járngreipr are required to lift the hammer?
Járngreipr is only mentioned in the Prose Edda, which means that Sturlason could have made it up himself.
As I remember it, you need Járngreipr to *catch* Mjölnir, or maybe weild it, but *lifting* Mjölnir is only a problem if you're in a Marvel story.
@@lakrids-pibe The background of why the hammer cannot be used by others has nothing to do with purity of the soul but because Dwarves made the hammer's handle too short so you need the special glove to use it effectively.
Something I've wondered about this story, if Loki is a shapeshifter, why does he need Freya's feather suit?
It's one of those details no one really worried about back then. Also just as likely was that this story was created by someone who didn't know Loki could shapeshift. Or thought he could only assume certain forms.
It's interesting you should say that at the end of this tale, order is restored to the realms, at least for the time being.
Was it intentional, do you think, that further disorder (a particularly drengr god like Thor assuming woman's garb and function like an argr) had to be temporarily endured to remedy the initial disorder of the theft of Thor's hammer (and the subversion of his function as cosmic Jotunn-slayer, which in the first place already reduces his drengr-ness)?
Maybe fjaðrhamr is a thing similar to those wolf skins mentioned in Vǫlsunga saga and other places.
I can never understand how could Thyrm take Mjölnir? Surely part of the hammer's magic is that it is so unweildly that Thor himself must wear Járngreipr , his iron gauntlets, himself so that he can weild it?
I wanna bet Loki had something to do with that!
I thought you wouldn't post anything while you were in California, fortunately I was wrong !
Someone implied that in the comments, but I was thinking at the time, "You know, he didn't explicitly say that he wouldn't be doing videos"....:-) I was glad as well.
In his last video before heading back to Berkeley, he said something like "I won't be posting any videos for a while from " which is where I think the misunderstanding came from.
Who is Thjotreyrir? he's mentioned in Havamal but I cant find any other info about him.
Could Thrym have anything to do with the Anglo-Saxon coin, the Thrymsa??
Thor said leave him loneeeeee lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember this from Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard: The Hammer of Thor. One of the main characters has to dress up in a dress for a wedding while retrieving Mjolnir.
Colton Zuspan I love that book I laughed the entire time 🤣🤣🤣 btw thor got me watching breaking bad
Maybe when Loki uses the neuter form of two, he is implying that they are both partially man and woman, or at least not quite man or woman in the moment. Admittedly, this interpretation comes from watching anime, Japanese has a gender neutral pronoun which is sometimes used to denote someone who is strange.
Soo... Heimdall can be both the whitest of gods AND be played by Idris Elba?
Why don’t we understand his shining of his pureness as a God by the descriptive word “white”?!
All i want to say is that my English class is ruining my life, gosh i hate my English class.
Too much work
i just know this is gunna ruin marvel universe 4me ~ not relavent but he looks wyrd ina suit, also should maybe consider an eye patch