Saw the title and my immediate thought was lack of reciprocation. To some women it makes sense to just not do anything and be “convinced” to show interest back, but to a guy like me it makes me think you just don’t like me like that😂
Of course, because we have far more to loose when the relationship goes sour. Not understanding that or denying it, is a sign of immaturity and selfishness.
1. Respectful people respect people, others behaviour shouldn't take you out of character. 2. In a relationship, respect is mutual and reciprocal and we are each other representative.
Because it's not some crazy thing to be interested in a woman. Getting a man to be initially interested in you is the easiest part for women. Keeping a man interested after he sees how you behave is the hard part.
I am born and raised in NYC and can speak to the patterns of Black men dating out in LA as well. I think it definitely has more to do with perceived social equity than it does to with class. Black women in America are statistically the most educated group of women and there’s a lot of upward mobility. I don’t think it’s that challenging to find one that carries herself well and offers a refined aesthetic. Be it class or pedigree. Ironically I’ll notice that some Black men will work at trying to humble these types of Black women instead of pouring into them or appreciating them. IDK….. maybe that just here? Relegating it to class feeds into negatives tropes and stereotypes without digging into the reality that some of these Black men might be running away from something internally or not facing manifestations of self hatred. Great convo! You guys have good vibes!
@@hatkingempire6286Did you see the MISREPRESENTATION AS ITC RELATION TO THE OUTCOMES IF WOMEN CHOICES…example, BW are most educated yet… LOWEST PAID…not smart enough to get degrees to make money and the most DEBT!
It’s very challenging to find a woman who carries herself well especially in this day and age. You’re not a man so you don’t have experience in finding a woman with good traits. Also educated in what? Schooling? Because when it comes to relationships and loving someone properly y’all (women in general) are the most uneducated. Some bm self hate but more bm see their worth starting gravitate to someone who is going to treat them right
telling a guy sex is off the table as an option, playing games, making a guy jump through hoops & putting up unnecessary roadblocks to a guy trying to get to know you. women do this all the time to "sh*t test" men & see how far she can push him & to see if she can make him angry. when the guy simply leaves & removes his attention, she feels stupid. because in his absence she realizes she actually liked having him around. but now he's gone because she wanted to play mind games.
so a woman can't require commitment before giving her body away, in a climate that requires women to have as low of a body count as possible? a woman can't expect an effort to be made by the guy who says he's interested? how will the woman know the man is genuinely interested in her if she gives it up without commitment or if he doesn't put in effort?
unless you're saying that no man genuinely likes a woman, outside of intimacy and child-rearing. then it would be best if you didn't bother being with women, go be with your fellow men.
@@Akintunde17 most men of value aren't obligated to, nor will they express anything. if she says or does the wrong thing, she will get ghosted. on to the next. do I think its right to do that to a woman? no. but women ghost men almost by default, so men have learned to ghost also once they've acquired value... it is what it is.
@@janewilliams5898 "so a woman can't require commitment before giving her body away" ---- a woman can do or require whatever she wants. but she has to do that with the knowledge that most men will walk away from that deal because they get nothing out of it. "in a climate that requires women to have as low of a body count as possible?" --- i'd argue the climate we're in is quite the opposite. we're in a full-on hookup culture, spearheaded by women & sex-positive feminism. if you need evidence of that, go to any college campus. "a woman can't expect an effort to be made by the guy who says he's interested?" --- in a post metoo movement world, women now have to court men, approach & put forth the effort because women have made it too risky for men to approach. men can lose their jobs, get cancelled, face legal action, be branded a creep among their social group etc. "how will the woman know the man is genuinely interested in her if she gives it up without commitment" --- if he sticks around. therein lies the importance of talking to him & getting to know the man before sleeping with him. but on the flipside, very few men are waiting until marriage. that is a custom of a bygone era (1950's) women banking on the men they want doing that for them will end up growing old, single & childless. "or if he doesn't put in effort?" --- why don't YOU put in some effort? why do men have to do everything? women said we're equal, right? ok then cool. you can take some of the man's responsibility & court him, approach him, get to know him. he is just as much of a prize as you are. ideally, you BOTH would put in effort.
100% agree on some black women not giving a man the space to lead. We don't want to fight you for it, a power struggle isn't fun, sexy or conducive to a successful relationship.
I believe that his point of BM dating WW is one aspect, but you will not play in our faces 😂 Some BM do not like themselves and therefore do not like BW. Dating BW and marrying BW are two different things.
There’s many BW who do the same thing and rather date lightskins, white men ans bash us on social media everyday. Idk why this is always a topic is hypocrisy
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Shoutout to Naomi for being a dope guest 🔥
Saw the title and my immediate thought was lack of reciprocation. To some women it makes sense to just not do anything and be “convinced” to show interest back, but to a guy like me it makes me think you just don’t like me like that😂
Of course, because we have far more to loose when the relationship goes sour. Not understanding that or denying it, is a sign of immaturity and selfishness.
100% agree on class, a women represents her men& showing him respect by being feminine &classy
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1. Respectful people respect people, others behaviour shouldn't take you out of character.
2. In a relationship, respect is mutual and reciprocal and we are each other representative.
Because it's not some crazy thing to be interested in a woman. Getting a man to be initially interested in you is the easiest part for women. Keeping a man interested after he sees how you behave is the hard part.
I can’t stand people that always late , sorry .
Cant lie...Naomi be my type..
Need me a wife like her
I am born and raised in NYC and can speak to the patterns of Black men dating out in LA as well. I think it definitely has more to do with perceived social equity than it does to with class. Black women in America are statistically the most educated group of women and there’s a lot of upward mobility. I don’t think it’s that challenging to find one that carries herself well and offers a refined aesthetic. Be it class or pedigree.
Ironically I’ll notice that some Black men will work at trying to humble these types of Black women instead of pouring into them or appreciating them. IDK….. maybe that just here?
Relegating it to class feeds into negatives tropes and stereotypes without digging into the reality that some of these Black men might be running away from something internally or not facing manifestations of self hatred.
Great convo! You guys have good vibes!
Thanks glad you enjoyed! 🔥
Anytime bm have a choice apparently it’s self hate 😂😂yea ok
@@hatkingempire6286 “some”
@@hatkingempire6286Did you see the MISREPRESENTATION AS ITC RELATION TO THE OUTCOMES IF WOMEN CHOICES…example, BW are most educated yet… LOWEST PAID…not smart enough to get degrees to make money and the most DEBT!
It’s very challenging to find a woman who carries herself well especially in this day and age. You’re not a man so you don’t have experience in finding a woman with good traits. Also educated in what? Schooling? Because when it comes to relationships and loving someone properly y’all (women in general) are the most uneducated. Some bm self hate but more bm see their worth starting gravitate to someone who is going to treat them right
38:15 it got real after that
telling a guy sex is off the table as an option, playing games, making a guy jump through hoops & putting up unnecessary roadblocks to a guy trying to get to know you. women do this all the time to "sh*t test" men & see how far she can push him & to see if she can make him angry. when the guy simply leaves & removes his attention, she feels stupid. because in his absence she realizes she actually liked having him around. but now he's gone because she wanted to play mind games.
For sure a test. Though I think she's looking for a man to express his standards and isn't afraid to lose her for it, that makes her respect him
so a woman can't require commitment before giving her body away, in a climate that requires women to have as low of a body count as possible? a woman can't expect an effort to be made by the guy who says he's interested? how will the woman know the man is genuinely interested in her if she gives it up without commitment or if he doesn't put in effort?
unless you're saying that no man genuinely likes a woman, outside of intimacy and child-rearing. then it would be best if you didn't bother being with women, go be with your fellow men.
@@Akintunde17 most men of value aren't obligated to, nor will they express anything. if she says or does the wrong thing, she will get ghosted. on to the next. do I think its right to do that to a woman? no. but women ghost men almost by default, so men have learned to ghost also once they've acquired value... it is what it is.
@@janewilliams5898 "so a woman can't require commitment before giving her body away" ---- a woman can do or require whatever she wants. but she has to do that with the knowledge that most men will walk away from that deal because they get nothing out of it.
"in a climate that requires women to have as low of a body count as possible?" --- i'd argue the climate we're in is quite the opposite. we're in a full-on hookup culture, spearheaded by women & sex-positive feminism. if you need evidence of that, go to any college campus.
"a woman can't expect an effort to be made by the guy who says he's interested?" --- in a post metoo movement world, women now have to court men, approach & put forth the effort because women have made it too risky for men to approach. men can lose their jobs, get cancelled, face legal action, be branded a creep among their social group etc.
"how will the woman know the man is genuinely interested in her if she gives it up without commitment" --- if he sticks around. therein lies the importance of talking to him & getting to know the man before sleeping with him. but on the flipside, very few men are waiting until marriage. that is a custom of a bygone era (1950's) women banking on the men they want doing that for them will end up growing old, single & childless.
"or if he doesn't put in effort?" --- why don't YOU put in some effort? why do men have to do everything? women said we're equal, right? ok then cool. you can take some of the man's responsibility & court him, approach him, get to know him. he is just as much of a prize as you are. ideally, you BOTH would put in effort.
I really like her honesty and the open conversation about Bm and bw. Refreshing
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100% agree on some black women not giving a man the space to lead. We don't want to fight you for it, a power struggle isn't fun, sexy or conducive to a successful relationship.
Kit's bicep is as big as my forehead
Haha appreciate it
Can someone tell me at what point in history was it the NORM for women to stay at home and not work in America?....Especially for black families
She lives by African time 😅 always 45min-1hour late
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Guys have to learn how to communicate better, women have to have their minds read instead of communicating what they're thinking
Don't lie we don't pay for dates in Sweden 😂
Ey I was surprised and didn't believe it but my Swedish friends were adamant 🤣
When they can’t name the issues that them reaching for bs.
I believe that his point of BM dating WW is one aspect, but you will not play in our faces 😂 Some BM do not like themselves and therefore do not like BW. Dating BW and marrying BW are two different things.
🤦🏾😂😂😂👌🏾
There’s many BW who do the same thing and rather date lightskins, white men ans bash us on social media everyday. Idk why this is always a topic is hypocrisy
Disgusting 🤢