I enjoyed the video. One thing I would mention, The weights are not all the same and it is important to get them back in the right places. Heaviest on the right, lightest on the left.
I have the grandfather version. 5 tube - 96 Jauch movement. Seth Thomas but also can be found badged as Colonial by General Time Corp. It has been in the family since day one 1971? and I call them furniture store clocks as that is where this one came from as an impulse buy while picking up living room furniture. Still works good, been moved around the country several times, serviced a handful of times. Chimes have always been finicky so I have it set to chime the hours only. Also, the moon dial is 180 teeth so two teeth each 12 hours. This part needed servicing recently due to wear and tear over the years. A slight forming the trip arm is all it needed.
@@johnpjonesch I have serviced several similar clocks since this video and I can say every one I’ve serviced has come back to like. The oil dries out and puts a lot of friction into the gear train and can make it sluggish. Your chimes will be slow until one day they will stall.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts chimes out of sync not slow or stalling. It is a mechanical issue. They play the entire westminster at 1/4 hour. At the top of the hour it will sound off only the hour.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Update: Loosened the set screw behind that main cam on the outside front face and it moved into place. It is now chiming correctly througout the hour. I got luck on this one.
I wish to see a video about my Colonial tall clock. Face is marked Colonial Mfg Zeeland. The movement has only "Germany" on the back. No other marks. A cabinet maker in Rhode Island sold it new in December 1955 to a doctor for $550.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Great video few questions 1. Grandfather clock stopped working many years ago. 2. Chimes not working. 3. When start clock works for 2 or 3 minutes then stops. May someone please help me
@@johnc8112 I recommend getting it a service at a watchmaker if it's a clock you value and want to keep running for years. giving it oil is gonna make it build up and eventually the dust will make a thick grease that stops the wheels.
Thanks for all the info. Have you been able to locate a manual for these clocks? I have a 1974 Colonial grandmother clock and am looking for a manual and trying to figure out if it has a night (silence mode). I read that some of these clocks have a lever where you can silence them at night (2200 to 0700). There is no lever on the face for this.
Nice video. I have purchased some old long case clocks some ago (me -> bad collector). These three clocks have all of them heavy stone lead weight. And there are of course pendulums. I have mixed up, and I don’t know which one belongs to each clock. Is it possible to use for example stone lead weight or/and pendulum from a different long case clock, and it doesn’t matter if it is not the original?
A purist would want the correct weight, however the movement does not care what the weight is made of… it just needs enough pounds to operate it… some trial and error should sort that out…
They drive the quarter hour chime (right) and the top of the hour strike (left). If there is a problem on the right side neither the chime nor the strike will work, but the clock may continue to tick and keep time. There could be a maintenance issue, but you may also have silenced the movement. Most grandfather clocks have a lever that you can silence the chime/strike with. Check that out first before spending money on repairs. Good luck.
I have an old Chinese grandfather clock,, we just purchased it and the chains are stuck will not come down plus the face is tipping forward can you advise us on how to fix it
Don’t worry man the clock is functional so there may not be a lot of wear an ultra sonic cleaning even fully assembled is okay! As long as it’s cleaned for a long time some of that gunk can hide in the pivots if not cleaned for a while though in a few years it may need to have the worn parts fixed if the parts get worn though fortunately it doesn’t appear to be worn or at least a whole lot so a cleaning should be fine as long as it’s not worn
i have a question. One of my numbers came off my clock. i attempted to glue it and when it didn't sit well. i attempted to remove glue and it took of the dull look and gave it a shine. how do i get back to the dull color? is there a metal paint?
There are a few possibilities...if you are lucky the pivots may just be dry and need a few dabs of clock oil....I’d try that first. It’s also likely your movement needs cleaning as the grease applied to the gears by the manufacturer gets dirty and gummy...
I just got a colonial grandfather clock and after a couple mins the pendulum slows down and stops. Iv tried to see if it needs to be put back in beat and same thing happens. Help please
I know you said you aren't doing a professional job, but one (of many) things that is problematic with cleaning it that way, is that some dirt will probably still be stuck between the pivots and the holes. After adding some oil, the clock will run, but these loose pieces of dirt/dust along with the new oil will act like sandpaper and wear the holes in the plates that will require re-bushing. So, your solution seems fine in the short term, but there is a hidden cost to not doing it correctly.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Awesome! It may seem intimidating, but it really isn't that hard. I've seen on your other videos that you did other full overhauls of more basic movements. If you can do that, you can do this one too. The 15min train is similar than the hour train in that you just need to make sure that the sprocket isn't resting. Only tricky part is getting it in the correct starting position, but that you can find easily by the sprockets that go directly after each other to get the 1 2 3 4 of the first part of the Westminster chime to line up with the 15min slot in the cam. But that you can do. I've been servicing cuckoo clocks and basic hour/half hour chiming clocks for a while, and did my first grandfather mechanism last week. It didn't technically need a deep clean, but I wanted to learn and get the experience. Good luck!
Hi, Jimmy, I have a question how do I get a clock appraised from a name and a serial number? I had a Colonial Mfg Co. Zeeland grandfather clock. My clock was damaged in a hurricane so I need to get an estimate for the Insurance company!
Sorry to hear about your loss…we’re from Florida and have been there with hurricane damage. I can tell you that most colonials I have seen are 1960s or 1970s. They may have originally sold in the $800 to $2500 range depending on features. The value today for such clocks is unfortunately much less probably a few hundred. If you will send me some photos of the clock and in particular photos of the movement back plate showing the stamped writing I can tell you much more. My email is bigdad56@bellsouth.net. Good luck!
I use hot water with ammonia, dishwashing soap and acetone added. I’ve heard of many variations that also work well. One gent I know just uses hot water. Good luck!
Watching that sonic bath of the parts was actually very satisfying. I couldn't believe the gunk that came off of it immediately when you placed the part in there.
It’s a great tool bit sadly it stopped working just a few days after I made this video. I haven’t tried to fix it yet - I hope it is something simple...!
Hi. I enjoy watching this video. I had just gotten a similar clock from a good friend of mine, whose father-in-law just passed away. I'm currently working on getting that clock up and running, and I thought I had it going, but somehow, I just noticed that the Westminster chime stops in the middle of the sequence every quarter hour. It used to stop at the end of the sequence. What do I need to do to get the sequence back in sync?
The drum likely isn’t in the right position. You should be able to loosen one of the drive gears and reposition the drum. It’s trial and error. Just move the drum ahead a bit and re-engage the gear teeth. As you advance the minute hand through the quarter hours you can tell if it’s ahead or behind. I can usually get it synced in a few tries. Once it is synced, just tighten the gear set screw. Good luck!
Hello again. I got the problem fixed last year thanks to your helpful advice. I have another question I'd like to ask you. I have a Jauch clock with Westminster/Ave Maria de Lourdes chimes. Even though the Westminster chime is in sequence, the Ave Maria chime isn't. Does that mean my clock has the same problem with the drum like my Colonial grandfather clock did?
Excellent video! Thank you so much! I've inherited a non running Colonial grandfather and am getting up the nerve to cleaning it, and get it running after sitting for maybe 10 years. You have taken the jitters out of the job. Will let you know. One question... how were you able to tell the year it was made?
There may be a date stamped right on the brass plate of the movement itself. Look for writing in the lower right of the back plate. Depending on who made the movement (it won’t be “Colonial” - more likely Hermle) the year may be there or a letter code for the year. Date tables for the various makers are readily available on line. One of the easiest things to check before you get started is to check that the clock is “in beat”. It’s an easy adjustment that be out of whack after a move. You can do this!
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts I’m not sure. What happens is I let the pendulum go back and forth and it sounds like it’s in beat but after a couple minutes always stops.
Bummer! Coincidentally the one in this video quit about a month after I filmed this. There are a couple things I’ve read about that may be repairable...need to open it up...
I enjoyed the video. One thing I would mention, The weights are not all the same and it is important to get them back in the right places. Heaviest on the right, lightest on the left.
Heaviest on the 1/4 chimes (usually the RIGHT).
One of the best videos on YT about clock repair and cleaning. Thanks for explaining in detail.
I have the grandfather version. 5 tube - 96 Jauch movement. Seth Thomas but also can be found badged as Colonial by General Time Corp. It has been in the family since day one 1971? and I call them furniture store clocks as that is where this one came from as an impulse buy while picking up living room furniture. Still works good, been moved around the country several times, serviced a handful of times. Chimes have always been finicky so I have it set to chime the hours only. Also, the moon dial is 180 teeth so two teeth each 12 hours. This part needed servicing recently due to wear and tear over the years. A slight forming the trip arm is all it needed.
@@johnpjonesch I have serviced several similar clocks since this video and I can say every one I’ve serviced has come back to like. The oil dries out and puts a lot of friction into the gear train and can make it sluggish. Your chimes will be slow until one day they will stall.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts chimes out of sync not slow or stalling. It is a mechanical issue. They play the entire westminster at 1/4 hour. At the top of the hour it will sound off only the hour.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Update: Loosened the set screw behind that main cam on the outside front face and it moved into place. It is now chiming correctly througout the hour. I got luck on this one.
2 cent solution....absolute brilliance my good man.
I love it when something turns out to be easy...!
yeah - i love it. stick it back to the big man
Really enjoyed watching this video. I have a Ridgeway clock but I need to find a service man to set it up to work again.
If you were nearby I’d do it for you….
I wish you were nearby but I guess Pa is just a little too far. Lol.
Thanks for posting. I have not had any luck with cleaning a movement without disassembly, I'm glad it worked out for you.
Thank you. I learned a lot from your video so I can understand what my Grandfather Clock repairman will have to do.
I wish to see a video about my Colonial tall clock. Face is marked Colonial Mfg Zeeland. The movement has only "Germany" on the back. No other marks. A cabinet maker in Rhode Island sold it new in December 1955 to a doctor for $550.
If you’d send me a photo or two of the movement I’d be happy to help you identify it and maybe find some help. Send to bigdad56@bellsouth.net.
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Will do and Thank You!
A very enjoyable video Jimmie ! you did a great job on the clean up and love the sound of the chimes at the end! .
Cheers and take care , Bram
Thank you for the kind comment Bram...
Thanks for the great videos you done. Plus thanks again for showing me how to clean my Grand Father's clock.
I’m glad you enjoyed...good luck!
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Great video few questions
1. Grandfather clock stopped working many years ago.
2. Chimes not working.
3. When start clock works for 2 or 3 minutes then stops. May someone please help me
@@johnc8112 proballby a dirty movement.
Thanks for the help, I oiled it and oil it until I got it to work.
@@johnc8112 I recommend getting it a service at a watchmaker if it's a clock you value and want to keep running for years. giving it oil is gonna make it build up and eventually the dust will make a thick grease that stops the wheels.
Thank you Jimmie!
Good luck!
Great job Jim. I didnt think that you had a you tube channel...............
Thanks for all the info. Have you been able to locate a manual for these clocks? I have a 1974 Colonial grandmother clock and am looking for a manual and trying to figure out if it has a night (silence mode). I read that some of these clocks have a lever where you can silence them at night (2200 to 0700). There is no lever on the face for this.
No manual for this clock…and I don’t believe it has the night silencing feature…,good luck…!
Jimmie, really enjoyed your video. I have never seen the inner workings of a clock like that. Btw, there is a Zeeland, Michigan.
Thanks Paul! Be well my friend...
Nice video. I have purchased some old long case clocks some ago (me -> bad collector). These three clocks have all of them heavy stone lead weight. And there are of course pendulums. I have mixed up, and I don’t know which one belongs to each clock. Is it possible to use for example stone lead weight or/and pendulum from a different long case clock, and it doesn’t matter if it is not the original?
A purist would want the correct weight, however the movement does not care what the weight is made of… it just needs enough pounds to operate it… some trial and error should sort that out…
What makes the right weight and left weight not go down?
They drive the quarter hour chime (right) and the top of the hour strike (left). If there is a problem on the right side neither the chime nor the strike will work, but the clock may continue to tick and keep time. There could be a maintenance issue, but you may also have silenced the movement. Most grandfather clocks have a lever that you can silence the chime/strike with. Check that out first before spending money on repairs. Good luck.
I have an old Chinese grandfather clock,, we just purchased it and the chains are stuck will not come down plus the face is tipping forward can you advise us on how to fix it
Don’t worry man the clock is functional so there may not be a lot of wear an ultra sonic cleaning even fully assembled is okay! As long as it’s cleaned for a long time some of that gunk can hide in the pivots if not cleaned for a while though in a few years it may need to have the worn parts fixed if the parts get worn though fortunately it doesn’t appear to be worn or at least a whole lot so a cleaning should be fine as long as it’s not worn
Love the two penny solution. 😆
i have a question. One of my numbers came off my clock. i attempted to glue it and when it didn't sit well. i attempted to remove glue and it took of the dull look and gave it a shine. how do i get back to the dull color? is there a metal paint?
Nice video, thouroughly enjoyed it. Great job.
Thank you Dave!
I own a Molyneau Grandfather clock that keeps perfect time, but doesn't chime anymore. Does it need to be cleaned? It' about 25 yrs old. Thanks.
I am usually able to get them going with a good solvent wash as I did in this video. Good luck!
I have a Colonial by Zeeland tall case clock. Occasionally, the second hand floats freely. Does this hand attach with friction?
I own a Molyneau clock that I've had for years. It still keeps perfect time, but it doesn't chime anymore. Does it need to be cleaned ?
There are a few possibilities...if you are lucky the pivots may just be dry and need a few dabs of clock oil....I’d try that first. It’s also likely your movement needs cleaning as the grease applied to the gears by the manufacturer gets dirty and gummy...
I just got a colonial grandfather clock and after a couple mins the pendulum slows down and stops. Iv tried to see if it needs to be put back in beat and same thing happens. Help please
Can you tell what weights this clock takes? I have the same clock but have lost the weights.
I know you said you aren't doing a professional job, but one (of many) things that is problematic with cleaning it that way, is that some dirt will probably still be stuck between the pivots and the holes. After adding some oil, the clock will run, but these loose pieces of dirt/dust along with the new oil will act like sandpaper and wear the holes in the plates that will require re-bushing. So, your solution seems fine in the short term, but there is a hidden cost to not doing it correctly.
Agree...I’m just getting to the point where I can do full overhauls. So i will probably revisit and do a full tear down at some point
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts Awesome! It may seem intimidating, but it really isn't that hard. I've seen on your other videos that you did other full overhauls of more basic movements. If you can do that, you can do this one too. The 15min train is similar than the hour train in that you just need to make sure that the sprocket isn't resting. Only tricky part is getting it in the correct starting position, but that you can find easily by the sprockets that go directly after each other to get the 1 2 3 4 of the first part of the Westminster chime to line up with the 15min slot in the cam. But that you can do.
I've been servicing cuckoo clocks and basic hour/half hour chiming clocks for a while, and did my first grandfather mechanism last week. It didn't technically need a deep clean, but I wanted to learn and get the experience.
Good luck!
Can you make a vid of it chiming in your house
I would do it in a minute but we are away for a few weeks. Please check back!
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts updates?
Hi, Jimmy, I have a question how do I get a clock appraised from a name and a serial number? I had a Colonial Mfg Co. Zeeland grandfather clock. My clock was damaged in a hurricane so I need to get an estimate for the Insurance company!
Sorry to hear about your loss…we’re from Florida and have been there with hurricane damage. I can tell you that most colonials I have seen are 1960s or 1970s. They may have originally sold in the $800 to $2500 range depending on features. The value today for such clocks is unfortunately much less probably a few hundred. If you will send me some photos of the clock and in particular photos of the movement back plate showing the stamped writing I can tell you much more. My email is bigdad56@bellsouth.net. Good luck!
What type of solvent was used in your ultrasonic bath? Thanks !
I use hot water with ammonia, dishwashing soap and acetone added. I’ve heard of many variations that also work well. One gent I know just uses hot water. Good luck!
Watching that sonic bath of the parts was actually very satisfying. I couldn't believe the gunk that came off of it immediately when you placed the part in there.
It’s a great tool bit sadly it stopped working just a few days after I made this video. I haven’t tried to fix it yet - I hope it is something simple...!
Hi.
I enjoy watching this video. I had just gotten a similar clock from a good friend of mine, whose father-in-law just passed away. I'm currently working on getting that clock up and running, and I thought I had it going, but somehow, I just noticed that the Westminster chime stops in the middle of the sequence every quarter hour. It used to stop at the end of the sequence. What do I need to do to get the sequence back in sync?
The drum likely isn’t in the right position. You should be able to loosen one of the drive gears and reposition the drum. It’s trial and error. Just move the drum ahead a bit and re-engage the gear teeth. As you advance the minute hand through the quarter hours you can tell if it’s ahead or behind. I can usually get it synced in a few tries. Once it is synced, just tighten the gear set screw. Good luck!
Hello again.
I got the problem fixed last year thanks to your helpful advice. I have another question I'd like to ask you. I have a Jauch clock with Westminster/Ave Maria de Lourdes chimes. Even though the Westminster chime is in sequence, the Ave Maria chime isn't. Does that mean my clock has the same problem with the drum like my Colonial grandfather clock did?
Lindo trabalho! O meu sonho é um dia se eu merecer ter um relógio como este na sala da minha mãe!
the date is on mechanism its 2 numbers on it and is it a emperor
it is not an emperor. dial says colonial. although emperors also used jauch movements and have a similar hour chime.
My papas clock was also made in zee land Michigan
My grandmother has the same clock
Excellent video! Thank you so much! I've inherited a non running Colonial grandfather and am getting up the nerve to cleaning it, and get it running after sitting for maybe 10 years. You have taken the jitters out of the job. Will let you know. One question... how were you able to tell the year it was made?
There may be a date stamped right on the brass plate of the movement itself. Look for writing in the lower right of the back plate. Depending on who made the movement (it won’t be “Colonial” - more likely Hermle) the year may be there or a letter code for the year. Date tables for the various makers are readily available on line. One of the easiest things to check before you get started is to check that the clock is “in beat”. It’s an easy adjustment that be out of whack after a move. You can do this!
thank you
Дякую вам за працю 😊
oh so beautiful
hope you fix your mic?
I need to get one but man they are expensive…
The figure 4 should be IIII not IV. I suspect this is of far east origin.
It is a grandfather clock . Just a pinch waist
H.R.W Productions thanks for that info...I shall remember pinch waist !
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts and the clock is from 1968 too
I have a similar colonial my pendulum has stopped tried everything.
Is your clock in beat?
@@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts I’m not sure. What happens is I let the pendulum go back and forth and it sounds like it’s in beat but after a couple minutes always stops.
Have you had the spring barrels apart? A big cause is that the grease dries and adds friction...
Muito bom
My Free 7 gallon Ultrasonic tank from CNC dept where i work, just quit on me, I am heart broken,,,
Bummer! Coincidentally the one in this video quit about a month after I filmed this. There are a couple things I’ve read about that may be repairable...need to open it up...
Make sure the cooties don't get in it!
please improve your sound