British born in 79 this is the world I came up in. I dont like the world today, we had less but our hearts were full We were RICH in culture, family and community spirit.
I hear you, but my heart drops when I think on how bad the racist abuse from police and nf gangs was for my elders them days. Atleast back then we all knew who the enemy was now the oppressors got us killing eachother
HSN EBG other races don’t kill each other? Think a bit before you speak mate. I think you’re forgetting the World Wars across Europe where millions of people from the same race fought because of ideologies and killed millions of white people on either side. You’re forgetting how east London was full of gangs prior to the arrival of immigrants, when white working class people killed each other in the crime underworld e.g. the Krays and other thugs, all white. You’re forgetting how the Irish and the English were at war for years, both white, and killed hundreds and thousands on each side. Countless others to mention, you’re beyond ignorant. Don’t speak on black people as if we’re a violent anomaly.
Respect to all the Brothers that fought for our dignity. They had the courage to speak up when others kept silent. Because of them I am proud to say i am Tottenham born n raised. I wasn’t from the Estate but i used sneak on their free youth go-karting trips. I also loved riding my bike through the long interconnecting corridors n walkways. Most of the facilities offered there would never had happened without the efforts n sacrifices of our Community Leaders. The Police were very arrogant and absolutely awful. They spared no-one from harassment. I was 11 and CID regularly made me cry. Physically gripping us up and even banging me n my friends against walls. Then i just became immune to it, I used to wish i had been old enough to Riot. This footage brought back alot of memories, some good some very traumatic. Thanks for Uploading👍🏾
I lived in Tottenham for a few years in the mid 80s, remember the riots well. But I also remember many good people from the area. The nature of housing estates like Broadwater Farm is that they provide a roof over your head, but not a community or wider society to develop and thrive. Even with good community work and many good hearted people, the underlying causes of social inequality, lack of good employment prospects and failing education systems, ultimately take their toll on many of the people living there. Local authorities know this, governments know this, yet decade after decade of failed promises and policies have shown that very few people in authority really care about the very people they are elected to serve. Those who do care often get ridiculed by the main stream media or paid lip service by those in government who have the power to influence positive change but choose not to.
@@BlackBritishLibrary Documentary like this is a must black people need to stop playing and having fun they need the real knowledge to many robots on the roads
Big respect for uploading this video, not seen this in years, I remember watching this and recording it on VHS back in 88 as a 14 year old boy which I still have in my collection. It's amazing the trials and tribulations that us black people had to encounter back then and fast forward 30 odd years later and nothing's really changed, racism seems to be getting worse in today's society. R I P to those who appeared in this documentary who are no longer with us, your memories will be a blessing and your legacy will live forever.. One love!
@Multidimensional Demi-god You neither have the intellect or the capacity to understand my statements of what I posted. My comments were based upon racism in society today, back then and for centuries, not specifically Council estates. Second, how you've arrived to the conclusion that I'm from London is beyond me.. pmsl.. You don't know where I'm from or where I live. You need lessons in education and compression!
Bless the artist who wouldn’t give up on his work and lived to inspire the community, despite the struggle. Having said that, love and respect to so many who fought for better in this video.
09:00 - that pose! Awesome. What an amazing upload and insight into life of the Caribbean-British back then. This is why I love youtube so much. Thank you so much.
yo this is crazy i grew up in tottenham born in the late 80s and lived just down the road next to broadwater farm, my dad always said to me and my bro be careful going through there because he was around when the riots happened .. its insane to finally see this footage, thank you so much ,.this is history for us that grew up in the area
When the spirit of the ancestors was alive and well in the black communities of UK. Love how untied the local residents where together. It's a shame how our mindset and spirituality had to endure constant attacks fromDrugs, poverty, crime and police and government corruption.
it was more west Indian base back then, the unity was strong , i miss it , now brothers look me in my face and dont even show respect , i see somalia etc etc looking down pon we , big up brothers of Judah
@@boeingbwoy gangsters and crack that's what mashed up the community. Most West Africans and West Indians co existed with the odd issue here and there. Fast forward to todays era and you will find that East Africans, have had a massive impact in mashing up those communities.
I was born in 88. The Red Play centre looks the exact same as my earliest memories of it in 93/94. I remember the spiral staircase leading up to the office. Mad Nostalgia
Yeah, I use to go there everyday after school. I remember in the playground around it my friends and I would try to run up the side of the roof. It's not there anymore
I remember when Farm still had those overhead walk ways & shops. Just watching I feel like I've been transported back to Tangmere. Big up Classford OBE, Still at the heart of the community till this day. R.i.P Clayton (the dread). Tottenham is Home for some of us no matter what the reputation ❤️
What a great film . What comes across to me is how articulate and thoughtful almost all the people are and also the spirit of community amongst both black and white . At one stage they argue as to how to teach the youth to be proud of their race which is great but maybe nowadays they would be pleased to see how multiracial or diverse youth culture is
Love my blk people.....its so easy to see why were hated when I watch this....and for the same reason, why I see so much positives...stay strong and uplifted my brothers and sisters.
@@gongagong Question is- how did these countries become '3rd world'? What were their economies like before western invasion and manipulation? The answers to these questions will help u to understand why Oz Truth made the statement they did ans why your statement just doesnt seem relevant.
@@belindaeveriste6575 are you really that niave? I'm not trying to start a race war of who is better blah blah blah. But the west and other big powerhouse countries have taught and built a lot for 3rd world countries. They built roads, buildings, schools etc. The west are still funding a lot of charities. The prince's and Kings in Africa are living a lavish lifestyle right now, whilst there are poor malnourished children with no water outside in the streets. Please look deeper, don't just blame the white man.
If Im naive, not sure what that makes u..? I referred 2 Google and utube 4 the origin of the instruments required 4 music composition, u clearly didnt take the 2 minz 2 do that, then go on about roads and infrastructure that is NOT 4 the 3rd worlds benefit, but the 'loan shark' and whoever wants access to trade. The schools that train the oppressed to see the west as the best also benefit whom? 4 Christ sake, come out of your ivory tower, read beyond what you've been told to and use more than the 3% of your brain that youve been taught to....initially it may hurt, but ur arrogance and one tracked mind is the reason 4 the imbalance between the socalled 1st n 3rd worlds As 4 race war, u lost me.... Genuine positivity sent from me to u, Propaganda is real.
Yes Europe loved africas invasion that was 5 c longer but ho on then u have CAMERA footage. Not like Turkey is ARAB right? U think its contra here too h8h. Read u kids need 5he whole story. 18 mins I hear cussing and get the cameras away and we r all HAPOY.... A DAMN FARM. GO TO TOFAYS AFRO FARMS OR ETHEOPIA OR S AFRICA FARMS BOY STFU. AFRICA TALKIN SO STFU !!
@@gongagong We West Indians are from "the West". When my father came to the UK he left his house in PoS with an inside toilet to find you all still shitting outside.
People will NEVER understand how important and powerful his work was! I remember seeing him around all the time when i was younger, and the he just faded away...
I grew up seeing him round Tottenham .@Trojan club broad lane never spoke to him but always came across as a wise humble looking man . Hope he’s doing well
We used to live around there for more than a year. That was just nearly 2 yrs ago. The building is quiet creepy. It is so quiet and looks so "sad" even though there's a lot of people living in that building. There's something in that building that could never ever forget or know. Looks no joy in there. Still exists until at this moment.
Amazing documentary hit all four corners of my past ie race relations, lack of employment & training, police brutality and religion. We are strong people!
how any of us can be racist when you see that poor little boy giggling and laughing so happily then wishing he was white is beyond any humanity. makes u wanna cry
Thats what i keep saying. I was raised white only to discover im not white, but i pass enough to get considered white by everyone, so its been a pretty weird time. I just dated the child of first generation immigrants, super tough time for anybody, let alone one who isnt white. People have a lot of pressures on them.
Rah this brought man back... I just about remember when farm was like this. I was a toddler... Big Up man like Classford.. big up Farm and big up community spirit.
Rah, great watch. I don't see this same fight in nobody nowadays! Look how things have changed but deep down nothing really changed? Babylon stronger than ever. Man still sleeping except now he got a king size bed.
@Scott Fraser yes I thought thats what you meant, and yeah I agree with you totally...however the chronic rise in racism here in London recently makes me have to question white people...I thought we dealt with all that deep racist stuff in the 70s and 80s, but no, I got fooled again. Its like white people were just taking a break until the right time to start all this shit up again...I served in the British Army, Royal Green Jackets...some of my white mates have stopped talking to me recently and their Facebook posts are full of immigrants this and immigrants that, sorry, im just not gonna get fooled a second time.
@Rab McDonald Well that was a really neg thing to say... wtf??? You don’t know what his heritage is. And heritage isn’t just about property, it’s also about cultural heritage. Besides, his material heritage might have been Africa. That’s not exactly a “‘little bit of land” it’s a huge continent that would fit thousands of Englands in it. 🧐
@Rab McDonald your bias leans far too much towards the negative aspects of African Cultural Heritage. Maybe you should turn your attentions towards your puppet masters who created all this for their own profits at the expense of peoples in general.
I think " 2 BAD MICE" in (Hertford ) pretty much started that with Moving shadow Records , however i get what you mean, it progressed more in North london , and spread..Edmonton, Enfield, N17, - jungle was starting..
@Rab McDonald What ...the drum? The voice, stringed instruments? And theres me, google and utube thinking that Africa had these instruments over 100's if not 1000's of years ago . In fact the African was so advanced musically that he used the drum to communicate, as such he was punished for using it during the enslavement period.🤷♀️
@jermaine tobin you said that was what people were saying in the 80s... and they’re still saying the same thing today bc it’s getting worse and worse. each generation can see how artificial things are becoming... jus because they made that argument in the 80s doesn’t mean it doesn’t have relevance today
@jermaine tobin the world has changed though. I disagree with people who try blame the change on the kids of today’s generation but it’s undeniable that there has been significant change
@Rab McDonald I salute your dedicated racism. For someone who hates black people so much to spend so much time watching videos about them and getting so active in the comments. You're living in confusion
@@israelhynes9435why is it confusion to honour the dead? Why??? They can put up a memorial to a racist copper who on the night taunted the rioters with racist abuse and jibes and he gets praise rather than Cynthia Jarrett who was shot in the back by policeman??? What the actual fuck!!! You should be ashamed of yourself and take that moronic comment down you inbred moronic fascist
Thanks for uploading. I remember the death of PC Blakelock , the reporting & this documentary....the BBC documentary 'who killed Keith Blakelock' is also worth watching.
The father of the man who was accused of killing police officer PC Blakelock he's talking the truth in 1988 is so sad that after all them years he's son got acquitted all the crimes
@@ceofadden9181 Funny you should say that but I always thought change came with music as Hip Hop went from the party going Electro and Run DMC style to Public Enemy and NWA Gangsta Rap in 1988 ?
My Mum Tina worked for Clasford and it was a very important time,a time of togetherness and a time of empowerment. voices had to be heard or there would be a price to pay. No one should die but it took a policeman to die and a innocent mother before the government would listen. Broadwater farm should be one of the blueprints of how to deal with the the sick Government in the uk, on a positive the little boy having a birthday is Wretch 32 Jermaine Scott just one of the Diamonds to come out of the Fire. Its time to wake up people the time is now!!!
I just wish black folks could look inside white heads and see we ain't what they think we are, many here offended at the black boy saying he wished he was white - well as a kid who loved his hip hop I sometimes wished I could wake up black, we're not any different from each other, the only things that keep us apart is dwelling on what makes us different rather than celebrating where we're the same
Very true. It's like people think there is an inherent demon inside "white heads" that makes them dislike people of other races. It's not true in any way shape or form: every white person I know grew up with Asians and Blacks and didn't see them as different or treat them differently. In fact, I've been in more black households that mention "whites" more than I have white households that mention "blacks". In truth, I've never known any white households that go on about black people or how much they hate them. Honesty, the transatlantic slave trade isn't too far away in the past. Black people know more about their own suffering more than whites know about their own hence why the white people of today are going all weird and apologising for the transatlantic slave trade: it's not our responsibility to apologise. Millions upon millions of white Christians along with other races were enslaved throughout the Barbary slave trade which didn't really end until the 18th century. Also, to this day millions of people are enslaved and they're all in third world countries; the whole of mankind has suffered, we've got to suck it up, love who treats us well and steer clear of those who don't. You can't change the evils in humanity. The media is also not doing a good job at reducing racial tension, in fact they're increasing it - telling lies that black people are being massacred by "white" police officers. They even mention the race of the officers in the news feeds on the radio etc. But when an Islamic terrorist stabs a woman in the back and goes for a bunch of other people they don't even mention the colour or race. The media tells us stories as if to depict the world as going after black people when more white people are gunned down by police in the US than black people - including a father with his autistic son but yet that gets NO media coverage. The media want racial tension, they make money off of it.
Old skool like Classford, bro just passed me the skeng, he just assist this goal like Hazard, done too much road on these opps its bout time my toes get pampered-
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 we all special, maybe our understanding of the word is different, I'm from same shithole had the similar experiences growing up, so many kids brainwashed from young rather than recognising the amazing potential we perhaps had! And yeah growing up in a council estate does make u feel inferior! 😤 Hence why violence and lawlessness was a escape
What’s the name of the main Dread featured with the Son calling him orange? Anyone know please, And who is the singer on the Sound, Are they still about. Bless up.
I was 8 years old when the riots happened, i remember the day like yesterday.... the sad truth about how its gonna get worst in the future was not far off....my cousin was one if the people who were arrested during the farm riots,one of many innocently sentenced...the madness is that the community was so much more together then it is today,dont get me wrong in some estates we still get down like family for street BBQ or football with the mans them, couple drinks etc but overall its not as tight as it once was..
Love the shamolic panel....no doubt this motley crew were appointed by LB Haringey....seen them then and they continue today. I grew up in Tottenham. I was 13 on the night of those riots. I recall feeling scared at home with the sirens etc.....Today my love and care for Tottenham has not dimmed. If only the MP cared......the circle will continue for more decades to come
As a white man that kid wanting to be white broke my heart I hope he’s now proud of who he is Stay blessed people ⭐️ 1:12.29 little did you know lol The boy done Good 😂
@@espringer695 We all human I’m not into all this racist shit We are what we are born He became wretch 32 UK rapper One of the worlds best wordsmiths Jermaine Scott ✌🏼
Still the same today, but updated a bit. 2019 issue with the buildings, being on columns and if in the unlikely event of a gas explosion the blocks could collapse. Originally the estate had a central boiler building which gave hot water to the whole estate. Over the years the boiler system was not good enough, so it was only used for part of the estate and the majority of the flats got their own gas boiler central heating. So phase one was to firstly change all gas cookers to electric free of charge (Over 700 electric cookers were bought and exchanged for free). Then put in fire safety systems with auto gas shut off systems linked to the electrics and gas. Then a big project in renewing the main gas boiler hub and re-connect all the blocks and flats to the main one boiler system. Also we put in cctv everywhere, ask for by the people living there. For safety of the workers and that some locals did not want the cctv, these workers would pack up work by 2pm, this was so they had left the area before the criminal gangs got out of bed and it worked hardly any major incidents.
1:00:01 black community needs strong olders in the community like this. Their voice alone is guiding and caring. Black youths today need some of assurance from fatherly figures. One person having a gentle tone with the correct people can change everything.
Passion fm 9.18fm studio was there for a little while around 1999/2000 , we was warned what exit to go in etc as precautions due to possibility of danger etc
British born in 79 this is the world I came up in. I dont like the world today, we had less but our hearts were full We were RICH in culture, family and community spirit.
I hear you, but my heart drops when I think on how bad the racist abuse from police and nf gangs was for my elders them days. Atleast back then we all knew who the enemy was now the oppressors got us killing eachother
@@mrsalaam1202 Got you killing each other? Funny that other races Don't kill each other Only blacks. It's your mentality
HSN EBG other races don’t kill each other? Think a bit before you speak mate. I think you’re forgetting the World Wars across Europe where millions of people from the same race fought because of ideologies and killed millions of white people on either side. You’re forgetting how east London was full of gangs prior to the arrival of immigrants, when white working class people killed each other in the crime underworld e.g. the Krays and other thugs, all white. You’re forgetting how the Irish and the English were at war for years, both white, and killed hundreds and thousands on each side. Countless others to mention, you’re beyond ignorant. Don’t speak on black people as if we’re a violent anomaly.
Thanks Blair
@@robakles1 you really need history lessons...
Respect to all the Brothers that fought for our dignity. They had the courage to speak up when others kept silent. Because of them I am proud to say i am Tottenham born n raised.
I wasn’t from the Estate but i used sneak on their free youth go-karting trips. I also loved riding my bike through the long interconnecting corridors n walkways. Most of the facilities offered there would never had happened without the efforts n sacrifices of our Community Leaders. The Police were very arrogant and absolutely awful. They spared no-one from harassment. I was 11 and CID regularly made me cry. Physically gripping us up and even banging me n my friends against walls.
Then i just became immune to it, I used to wish i had been old enough to Riot.
This footage brought back alot of memories, some good some very traumatic.
Thanks for Uploading👍🏾
I lived in Tottenham for a few years in the mid 80s, remember the riots well. But I also remember many good people from the area.
The nature of housing estates like Broadwater Farm is that they provide a roof over your head, but not a community or wider society to develop and thrive. Even with good community work and many good hearted people, the underlying causes of social inequality, lack of good employment prospects and failing education systems, ultimately take their toll on many of the people living there. Local authorities know this, governments know this, yet decade after decade of failed promises and policies have shown that very few people in authority really care about the very people they are elected to serve. Those who do care often get ridiculed by the main stream media or paid lip service by those in government who have the power to influence positive change but choose not to.
Do not let this get deleted
Somebody better put this on a hardrive asap to much history right here
I copied this already, any issues I'll put this on my channel 👊🏿
@@BlackBritishLibrary Preach have to do it
@@Search889 Come on 🙌🏿 I plan to drop documentaries about all Ends of London by the summer. Not enough people know how its been/is for us here!!
@@BlackBritishLibrary Documentary like this is a must black people need to stop playing and having fun they need the real knowledge to many robots on the roads
Big respect for uploading this video, not seen this in years, I remember watching this and recording it on VHS back in 88 as a 14 year old boy which I still have in my collection. It's amazing the trials and tribulations that us black people had to encounter back then and fast forward 30 odd years later and nothing's really changed, racism seems to be getting worse in today's society. R I P to those who appeared in this documentary who are no longer with us, your memories will be a blessing and your legacy will live forever.. One love!
True talk
@Multidimensional Demi-god You neither have the intellect or the capacity to understand my statements of what I posted. My comments were based upon racism in society today, back then and for centuries, not specifically Council estates. Second, how you've arrived to the conclusion that I'm from London is beyond me.. pmsl.. You don't know where I'm from or where I live. You need lessons in education and compression!
Rahhh classford is still in farm to this day helping the youth. What a great man honestly
gud ebening wow that's amazing....how his work hasn't been recognised 💯
I seen him at the community centre yesterday and told I was watching this on youtube 😁 proper guy
Scott McKenzie Yh he still coaches kids football there doesn’t he
@@riyadinho6795 he does indeed
Classford a good man. He kept me away from the thug life. Nothing but respect for him. He saved my life.
Bless the artist who wouldn’t give up on his work and lived to inspire the community, despite the struggle. Having said that, love and respect to so many who fought for better in this video.
Every child needs a father. It is massively important in a child's development. A mother and a father
I get you. But that comment is redundant. That's like saying every child being raised needs a mother.
I get you. But that comment is redundant. That's like saying every child being raised needs a mother.
@@khh8799 You clearly don't...
Would love to see an update of the people involved in this story. 2021.
Me too
Definitely!!
Me too 🌸🌸🌸
SAME! 🙏🏾
go watch a ofb vid lol
This made me emotional, especially seeing some of my mum and dads friends 😢😢
Omg I just saw my dad 😂😂😂😂 not giving you guys the time stamp tho
Wats your Instagram name 😍
Take care Sis
Are they all still alive?
@@goonervillegonad3662 most are tbf 🙏🏾
I was about 4-5 years old, lived in Tangmere on the Broadwater Farm when this was filmed!
They killed them sessions. Big up the OGs on the mic👏🏾💯 seeing this in Dec,2019!
09:00 - that pose! Awesome. What an amazing upload and insight into life of the Caribbean-British back then. This is why I love youtube so much. Thank you so much.
yo this is crazy i grew up in tottenham born in the late 80s and lived just down the road next to broadwater farm, my dad always said to me and my bro be careful going through there because he was around when the riots happened .. its insane to finally see this footage, thank you so much ,.this is history for us that grew up in the area
i really appreciated seeing life back in 1988 and how things differ to now. great insight on so many things
When the spirit of the ancestors was alive and well in the black communities of UK. Love how untied the local residents where together. It's a shame how our mindset and spirituality had to endure constant attacks fromDrugs, poverty, crime and police and government corruption.
it was more west Indian base back then, the unity was strong , i miss it , now brothers look me in my face and dont even show respect , i see somalia etc etc looking down pon we , big up brothers of Judah
@@XBASS247
Lol what has Somalis got to do with this? We ain't your people although respect is mutual.
@@XBASS247 can't understand why you brought Somalis into it but I agree it was more West Indian based back then.
They moved in a lot of africans into the west indian community to mix it up and they knew it would mash up the community
@@boeingbwoy gangsters and crack that's what mashed up the community. Most West Africans and West Indians co existed with the odd issue here and there.
Fast forward to todays era and you will find that East Africans, have had a massive impact in mashing up those communities.
Depending on when this was filmed, I was either 3 or 4 year olds at this time...... Man, wish i could go back in time! Great docu 👊🏽
Such RAW footage!
I think I’d have fit right in the 1980’s
I was born in 88. The Red Play centre looks the exact same as my earliest memories of it in 93/94. I remember the spiral staircase leading up to the office. Mad Nostalgia
Yeah, I use to go there everyday after school. I remember in the playground around it my friends and I would try to run up the side of the roof. It's not there anymore
Maybe you used to play with me i was born 1990. Went there too
Where's is headie one
This explains why Wretch 32 is the GOAT. His family is inspiring
I remember when Farm still had those overhead walk ways & shops. Just watching I feel like I've been transported back to Tangmere. Big up Classford OBE, Still at the heart of the community till this day. R.i.P Clayton (the dread). Tottenham is Home for some of us no matter what the reputation ❤️
RIP Bernie grant🙏🏿🙏🏿
RIP CYNTHIA JARRETT..........
Definitely...Nah forget her
Scorcher’s grandma
❤️
What a great film . What comes across to me is how articulate and thoughtful almost all the people are and also the spirit of community amongst both black and white . At one stage they argue as to how to teach the youth to be proud of their race which is great but maybe nowadays they would be pleased to see how multiracial or diverse youth culture is
Love my blk people.....its so easy to see why were hated when I watch this....and for the same reason, why I see so much positives...stay strong and uplifted my brothers and sisters.
@@gongagong Question is- how did these countries become '3rd world'?
What were their economies like before western invasion and manipulation?
The answers to these questions will help u to understand why
Oz Truth made the statement they did ans why your statement just doesnt seem relevant.
@@belindaeveriste6575 are you really that niave? I'm not trying to start a race war of who is better blah blah blah. But the west and other big powerhouse countries have taught and built a lot for 3rd world countries. They built roads, buildings, schools etc. The west are still funding a lot of charities.
The prince's and Kings in Africa are living a lavish lifestyle right now, whilst there are poor malnourished children with no water outside in the streets.
Please look deeper, don't just blame the white man.
If Im naive, not sure what that makes u..? I referred 2 Google and utube 4 the origin of the instruments required 4 music composition, u clearly didnt take the 2 minz 2 do that, then go on about roads and infrastructure that is NOT 4 the 3rd worlds benefit, but the 'loan shark' and whoever wants access to trade.
The schools that train the oppressed to see the west as the best also benefit whom?
4 Christ sake, come out of your ivory tower, read beyond what you've been told to and use more than the 3% of your brain that youve been taught to....initially it may hurt, but ur arrogance and one tracked mind is the reason 4 the imbalance between the socalled 1st n 3rd worlds
As 4 race war, u lost me....
Genuine positivity sent from me to u,
Propaganda is real.
Yes Europe loved africas invasion that was 5 c longer but ho on then u have CAMERA footage. Not like Turkey is ARAB right? U think its contra here too h8h. Read u kids need 5he whole story. 18 mins I hear cussing and get the cameras away and we r all HAPOY.... A DAMN FARM. GO TO TOFAYS AFRO FARMS OR ETHEOPIA OR S AFRICA FARMS BOY STFU. AFRICA TALKIN SO STFU !!
@@gongagong We West Indians are from "the West". When my father came to the UK he left his house in PoS with an inside toilet to find you all still shitting outside.
steelie the artist was a genius....his work needs to be acknowledged.
People will NEVER understand how important and powerful his work was! I remember seeing him around all the time when i was younger, and the he just faded away...
is that the guy singing , i made a jungle tune from it , how can i get in touch with him
I grew up seeing him round Tottenham .@Trojan club broad lane never spoke to him but always came across as a wise humble looking man .
Hope he’s doing well
Wonderful documentary. Thanks for posting it 👍🏼
Great post. Brilliant channel. Thank you.
All these yout man, black on black violence/murder. They really need to watch this. Solidarity and community spirit.
The yardies ruined it when they arrived in the 80s
@@PatrickEvans-x1v what do you mean? jamaicans been in london since windrush
@@II-wk8kv I'm talking about the ones that arrived during the drug era in the 80s
@@PatrickEvans-x1v oh right, do you know any good places to read/watch more about that topic?
These kids will be around my age now, 37 - 39yrs In 2019
Yep I'm 33 and was born on the farm in 86 how times have changed so much
I was born in 78 ....so 42 this year...same generation as I was 7 during those riots
I was born in 80 lived in loughborough till 5 , I can remember what the estate looked like ,
It’s was rough, full of punk rockers
these comments are evidence to how the situation in wider society has not improved one bit, and infect has regressed. this is the saddest part.
Came up randomly in my suggestion. Wow! What a good documentary
I was 26 years old when this was made and lived 10 min from the farm, memories
We used to live around there for more than a year. That was just nearly 2 yrs ago. The building is quiet creepy. It is so quiet and looks so "sad" even though there's a lot of people living in that building. There's something in that building that could never ever forget or know. Looks no joy in there. Still exists until at this moment.
Amazing documentary hit all four corners of my past ie race relations, lack of employment & training, police brutality and religion. We are strong people!
how any of us can be racist when you see that poor little boy giggling and laughing so happily then wishing he was white is beyond any humanity. makes u wanna cry
That scene was sad
The little boy makes my heart bleed xxx
Thats what i keep saying. I was raised white only to discover im not white, but i pass enough to get considered white by everyone, so its been a pretty weird time. I just dated the child of first generation immigrants, super tough time for anybody, let alone one who isnt white. People have a lot of pressures on them.
Wretch 32 manifested from his families prophecy. Powerful
Knew that was wretch 32’s dad lol Iooks the double of him
@Ian Mangham UK rapper
@@Kwm-ur8qh Is that kid being hurried up for school, Wretch 32?
I knew it was
@@goonervillegonad3662 no. Wretch's dad is the very vocal man who is wearing a brown leather cap in a lot of the scenes.
Rah this brought man back... I just about remember when farm was like this. I was a toddler... Big Up man like Classford.. big up Farm and big up community spirit.
Rah, great watch. I don't see this same fight in nobody nowadays! Look how things have changed but deep down nothing really changed? Babylon stronger than ever. Man still sleeping except now he got a king size bed.
There's no fight or togetherness no more , sad . we've been split up & segregated due to gentrification , no more frontlines anywhere in UK.
You done know, but the way racism has risen once again...we also will rise up, once again...
@Scott Fraser well who else? the white man is the creator and custodian of race hate, but we are going to smash it
@Scott Fraser I think I agree with you, but I'm not sure I understand EXACTLY what you mean
@Scott Fraser yes I thought thats what you meant, and yeah I agree with you totally...however the chronic rise in racism here in London recently makes me have to question white people...I thought we dealt with all that deep racist stuff in the 70s and 80s, but no, I got fooled again. Its like white people were just taking a break until the right time to start all this shit up again...I served in the British Army, Royal Green Jackets...some of my white mates have stopped talking to me recently and their Facebook posts are full of immigrants this and immigrants that, sorry, im just not gonna get fooled a second time.
Great video respect to all in it, from a middle aged gammon Englishman born in Stepney.
Broadwater farm is an icon of London
I was 10 at this time & it’s so nostalgic to see this footage.
Dam your old
@@chrismichaels2094 😂 cheers
you still are 10 in your mind
I hope that young lad learnt about his heritage and became proud of himself..
@Rab McDonald Well that was a really neg thing to say... wtf??? You don’t know what his heritage is. And heritage isn’t just about property, it’s also about cultural heritage. Besides, his material heritage might have been Africa. That’s not exactly a “‘little bit of land” it’s a huge continent that would fit thousands of Englands in it. 🧐
@Rab McDonald that would all depend on how you define great. You clearly haven’t read much black history, or even seem to be aware of it...
@Rab McDonald your bias leans far too much towards the negative aspects of African Cultural Heritage. Maybe you should turn your attentions towards your puppet masters who created all this for their own profits at the expense of peoples in general.
@Rab McDonald there have ALWAYS been serial killers in most countries.... your point being?
@Rab McDonald 🤞
When Less Was More✊🏽✊🏽🖤
Life was real back then, the youth today think life is a computer game and that killings are not real.
@Smoke Piffington drake ain’t a hamster rapper tf
I know man its disgusting
@Smoke Piffington everyone knows Drake isn’t a gangster nobody looks at him like he’s gangster
@Rob u don’t kno shit about hip hop if u think Drake is looked at like a gangster or hard man
Drum and bass music started on the Broadwater farm estate. D&B is now a international multi million pound industry.
I think " 2 BAD MICE" in (Hertford ) pretty much started that with Moving shadow Records , however i get what you mean, it progressed more in North london , and spread..Edmonton, Enfield, N17,
- jungle was starting..
And jungle started in h town
some one Houston ?
@@Seven-c6q Hackney
@Rab McDonald What ...the drum? The voice, stringed instruments?
And theres me, google and utube thinking that Africa had these instruments over 100's if not 1000's of years ago .
In fact the African was so advanced musically that he used the drum to communicate, as such he was punished for using it during the enslavement period.🤷♀️
See couple face me recognise from back in the day, things and times change. Used to live in Rochford. All de original people dem Hail one love
I wonder what that young girl is doing now?
Hopefully she has a good job and earns good money!
Matty Sykes shes like im her 40’s
@@JAZZYGLA lol ok so she prob not soo young any more!
Or has a happy family
She had her son who is part of ofb
@@chrismichaels2094 who was her son?
Gosh things have changed in this world everything is so artificial nowadays😣
@jermaine tobin it’s getting worse and worse
@jermaine tobin you said that was what people were saying in the 80s... and they’re still saying the same thing today bc it’s getting worse and worse. each generation can see how artificial things are becoming... jus because they made that argument in the 80s doesn’t mean it doesn’t have relevance today
@jermaine tobin the world has changed though. I disagree with people who try blame the change on the kids of today’s generation but it’s undeniable that there has been significant change
29:50 This is sad. I really wish people could be proud of who they are.
That was depressing to watch.
Richie Davis - he became one of the smoothest voices in England.
He sounded so good. I hoped he made it big, just looked him up.
The black community put up a memorial in memory of PC Keith Blakelock....what did the police do for Cynthia Jarret?
probably because that story was total bullshit, or are you stupid enough to believe that someone being pushed dies immediately from a heart attack?
@Rab McDonald I salute your dedicated racism. For someone who hates black people so much to spend so much time watching videos about them and getting so active in the comments. You're living in confusion
@@israelhynes9435 exactly 🤣😂
@@israelhynes9435why is it confusion to honour the dead? Why???
They can put up a memorial to a racist copper who on the night taunted the rioters with racist abuse and jibes and he gets praise rather than Cynthia Jarrett who was shot in the back by policeman???
What the actual fuck!!!
You should be ashamed of yourself and take that moronic comment down you inbred moronic fascist
Thanks for uploading. I remember the death of PC Blakelock , the reporting & this documentary....the BBC documentary 'who killed Keith Blakelock' is also worth watching.
Hundreds of people saw, knew and took part, but no fucking witnesses. Fuck them all.
1:12:00 Wretch 32 as a child with his father and family. Beautiful
There's no fight or togetherness no more , sad . we've been split up & segregated, no more frontlines anywhere in UK.
I'm glad for that because otherwise we'll end up with ghettos like Baltimore in US.
Wretch 32's dad man! 🙏🏾😪💔
What die how long ago ?
No way is that Ryan from set yeh
@@McSliksOnline yeah bro lol
The father of the man who was accused of killing police officer PC Blakelock he's talking the truth in 1988 is so sad that after all them years he's son got acquitted all the crimes
@Rab McDonald gronk
Wretch looks just like his dad!!
C which one is wretch Dad?
@@m600ooo3 you can't tell??
C I clocked in the end
And then the crack came to town
Matty Sykes and ruined a generation
Are you the girl in the film ? If so I think you’re cute !
Would u say that’s gangs started to form around them times
@@ceofadden9181 Funny you should say that but I always thought change came with music as Hip Hop went from the party going Electro and Run DMC style to Public Enemy and NWA Gangsta Rap in 1988 ?
@@samuelspoons3553 Music doesn’t cause violence, NWA rapped about violence cause that’s what they’d experienced in their lives
My Mum Tina worked for Clasford and it was a very important time,a time of togetherness and a time of empowerment. voices had to be heard or there would be a price to pay. No one should die but it took a policeman to die and a innocent mother before the government would listen. Broadwater farm should be one of the blueprints of how to deal with the the sick Government in the uk, on a positive the little boy having a birthday is Wretch 32 Jermaine Scott just one of the Diamonds to come out of the Fire. Its time to wake up people the time is now!!!
The father conversation to his son at 29:35 was deep
Very deep and sad too.
I was there! A great community. Dolly Kiffin was something of a character.
I just wish black folks could look inside white heads and see we ain't what they think we are, many here offended at the black boy saying he wished he was white - well as a kid who loved his hip hop I sometimes wished I could wake up black, we're not any different from each other, the only things that keep us apart is dwelling on what makes us different rather than celebrating where we're the same
Beautifully said brother
@A Z I still get looks whilst walking down the road with my black missus and mixed race children. Mainly from black people though
Very true. It's like people think there is an inherent demon inside "white heads" that makes them dislike people of other races. It's not true in any way shape or form: every white person I know grew up with Asians and Blacks and didn't see them as different or treat them differently. In fact, I've been in more black households that mention "whites" more than I have white households that mention "blacks". In truth, I've never known any white households that go on about black people or how much they hate them.
Honesty, the transatlantic slave trade isn't too far away in the past. Black people know more about their own suffering more than whites know about their own hence why the white people of today are going all weird and apologising for the transatlantic slave trade: it's not our responsibility to apologise. Millions upon millions of white Christians along with other races were enslaved throughout the Barbary slave trade which didn't really end until the 18th century.
Also, to this day millions of people are enslaved and they're all in third world countries; the whole of mankind has suffered, we've got to suck it up, love who treats us well and steer clear of those who don't. You can't change the evils in humanity.
The media is also not doing a good job at reducing racial tension, in fact they're increasing it - telling lies that black people are being massacred by "white" police officers. They even mention the race of the officers in the news feeds on the radio etc. But when an Islamic terrorist stabs a woman in the back and goes for a bunch of other people they don't even mention the colour or race.
The media tells us stories as if to depict the world as going after black people when more white people are gunned down by police in the US than black people - including a father with his autistic son but yet that gets NO media coverage. The media want racial tension, they make money off of it.
@@tonyoliver2167 dats the truth mate
@@littlebrayutd I appreciate the appreciation, my friend. The mind of mankind is being poisoned
big up saffron saffron good works !!! 👊🏾❤👍🏾
R.I.P. Mark Duggan 🕊❤️
Why
the section of society that mourns the death of a criminal will forever be sick and underachieving
Trillest Rick init
Hotass Manky your dumb aren’t you
HBK Customs Rip gone too soon
Old skool like Classford, bro just passed me the skeng, he just assist this goal like Hazard, done too much road on these opps its bout time my toes get pampered-
Rah clasfed was in the shop i was 8 i witnessed it all much to the farm bless up classmy memories will never die
30:00 almost brought me to tears, Black is beautiful shame on this inbred racist establishment that made this child feel inferior 😤
Samuel Hutchison special child ? That sounds racist
Samuel Hutchison why are you racist bro ? No race is superior to other so just get the duck out with that - special child. Maybe special needs
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 we all special, maybe our understanding of the word is different, I'm from same shithole had the similar experiences growing up, so many kids brainwashed from young rather than recognising the amazing potential we perhaps had! And yeah growing up in a council estate does make u feel inferior! 😤
Hence why violence and lawlessness was a escape
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 Racist? You barking up the wrong tree there! My family is mixed I grew with culture Haringey Crew from birth!
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 I took out the word special, I get your point 👀
41:34 i find it wierd how in 1985 they talking about another Mark that’s dies from the farm
hopefully the other mark wasn't a scumbag drug dealer with a converted handgun.
@@tropicalpalmtree oh shut up boomer 🤣
@@tropicalpalmtree nice...GunsDirect🤣😂😂😃😃😂
@tropical palm tree if you’re the big tree we are the small axe 💥
@@iosdrippy1513 I'm the big tree that falls and crushes those who try and cut it down
What’s the name of the main Dread featured with the Son calling him orange?
Anyone know please,
And who is the singer on the Sound,
Are they still about.
Bless up.
Judge, surname Dread.
I was 8 years old when the riots happened, i remember the day like yesterday.... the sad truth about how its gonna get worst in the future was not far off....my cousin was one if the people who were arrested during the farm riots,one of many innocently sentenced...the madness is that the community was so much more together then it is today,dont get me wrong in some estates we still get down like family for street BBQ or football with the mans them, couple drinks etc but overall its not as tight as it once was..
innocent and part of a riot... fuck off.
Facinating,Thanks for sharing,Reminds me of slummung it in Enfield,Ponders End and Stoke newington in the early 90's
High Rising...........
Grew up in Enfield n haven’t been back in years, should prolly go back and have a look again
I was born in 1988 , am 33 years old , nothing has changed 😒
Love the shamolic panel....no doubt this motley crew were appointed by LB Haringey....seen them then and they continue today. I grew up in Tottenham. I was 13 on the night of those riots. I recall feeling scared at home with the sirens etc.....Today my love and care for Tottenham has not dimmed. If only the MP cared......the circle will continue for more decades to come
As a white man that kid wanting to be white broke my heart
I hope he’s now proud of who he is
Stay blessed people ⭐️
1:12.29 little did you know lol
The boy done Good 😂
Thank you for your love and understanding. What did he become?
@@espringer695 We all human I’m not into all this racist shit
We are what we are born
He became wretch 32 UK rapper One of the worlds best wordsmiths
Jermaine Scott ✌🏼
@@BoSSLeVeLs the kid that said he wants to be white isn't wretch 32
@@officerfranktenpenny626 I know he’s the kid at the end that fell asleep in church ✌🏼
Check time stamp !it’s his mum talkin about Jermaine
Great documentary
Still the same today, but updated a bit.
2019 issue with the buildings, being on columns and if in the unlikely event of a gas explosion the blocks could collapse.
Originally the estate had a central boiler building which gave hot water to the whole estate. Over the years the boiler system was not good enough, so it was only used for part of the estate and the majority of the flats got their own gas boiler central heating.
So phase one was to firstly change all gas cookers to electric free of charge (Over 700 electric cookers were bought and exchanged for free).
Then put in fire safety systems with auto gas shut off systems linked to the electrics and gas.
Then a big project in renewing the main gas boiler hub and re-connect all the blocks and flats to the main one boiler system.
Also we put in cctv everywhere, ask for by the people living there. For safety of the workers and that some locals did not want the cctv, these workers would pack up work by 2pm, this was so they had left the area before the criminal gangs got out of bed and it worked hardly any major incidents.
u cannot tell me the guy in the thumbnail isn't related to head one
😂
Looks more like Wretch32
1:47 Lol I'm 13 and I've been living at Farm for over 7 years and I've never seen that wall plain, has that mural now
Yoo bro are u with da ofb
1:00:01 black community needs strong olders in the community like this. Their voice alone is guiding and caring. Black youths today need some of assurance from fatherly figures. One person having a gentle tone with the correct people can change everything.
Passion fm 9.18fm studio was there for a little while around 1999/2000 , we was warned what exit to go in etc as precautions due to possibility of danger etc
Mad I was born there a year after this was filmed. The attack on Millard must not be tolerated and severely punished!
love the little boy, what a character
34 mins. Heart breaking to see that generation subjected to this shit.
the father really tried to keep calm infront of the camera when his son told him he wants to be white, u know he didnt sleep that night
RealTalk TalkReal 💯 probably just wanted to fight the system even more after that
There's a guy there calling himself an Englishman so I'm not surprised
@@rainyfeathers9148 well he is! Born in England what is he??
@@soundmind6477 I beg you, don't be stupid please🙄. For once let's not go there.
@@rainyfeathers9148 If he considers himself English whats it got to do with you? Born in England, mostly likely carries a British passport.
Classford look really young here. I knew Classford form 1998 to 2000 Broadwater community center . He was always a farm man
Which 1 is classford
@@johnhirst5659 rhw man with the denim jacket 5:50
I can’t believe they just tasered this man at 62 yrs of age down his stair case during black life’s matter !!
It was in April bro but it still ain't right
Why did they tase him?
@@CD-ng7ur new world order
They tryna start a race war so they can enforce marital then ultimately the new world order
@j 1 nice to see other ppl that think how i do
Went to Google maps...love that the mural is still there...
Big up mi people yard man sey she nah do Notting fi we!
Bare memories right here...
ive made a jungle ttune from 57:17 ,could some tell me who is singing so i can get in contact with him please
10 benson was £1.50 in 1988!!!!!
Who else remembers the 10 packs?
No it was £1.50 for 20! I can remember buying 10 benson for 82p in 89/90.
No it wasn't! a 10 pack of Richmond was £1.50 in 2002 1988 it have been much much cheaper to buy fags.
I remember embassy no6 was 19p in 1974 pack 10
Did anyone clock that Jermaine, the boy who was christened, is Wretch 32. I clocked it was his dad from the beginning when I saw the thumbnail.
I can't believe it they was so right about wretch! Wow...
RENZEENO ?
I seems strange to watch myself at uncle marks funeral I was only 4 years old but never forgotten this said day and still miss my loving uncle 😢
Lv this tune u goo respect man may god be with ur community at all times I mean at all times 💃❣🤴🙏🙏💖😍xxxxxxx
Salute Richie
This is very interesting.
47:21 when the mc is spitting
Anyone know the song at 57 minutes?