Do We Have a Creed?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Do we have a creed? In this presentation brother Andrew White will respond from the Bible and Spirit of prophecy this question. We hope it will bring rest to those who are interested in the truth and will encourage many.
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Timely message, Praise our heavenly Abba Father and His Son. This has been a long presentation though.
Is that his message? or he got it from someone else. Or he is just forming several quotes, and passages to support some preconceived ideas? Is he deceiving many?
"It is written???????" Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
What is a creed? Does God you ascribe to have a creed. Why even argue about creed or no creed. If you people cannot even settle such irrelevant issues, because of selfishness. How can you expect other non-believers believe you?
"It is written???????" Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
My brethren and sisters, appreciate and study the truths God has given for you and your children. Spend not your time in seeking to know that which will be no spiritual help. "What shall I do to inherit eternal life?" (Luke 10:25). This is the all-important question, and it has been clearly answered. "What is written in the law? how readest thou?"--Manuscript 26, 1901. {1SM 174.4}
During the time of the pioneers which was during the 50 years prior to 1904, did the pioneers hold open communion (Lord's supper) or closed communion (Lord's supper)? Today, would the SDCR exclude Peter who had not yet been converted before the Lord Jesus washed his feet?
I think you misunderstand what happened at the feet washing. Here is a section from the Desire of Ages that may help. This chapter “A Servant of Servants” as well as the following one “In Remembrance of Me” have been a blessing to me.
“Solemnly Christ said to Peter, “If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with Me.” The service which Peter refused was the type of a higher cleansing. Christ had come to wash the heart from the stain of sin. In refusing to allow Christ to wash his feet, Peter was refusing the higher cleansing included in the lower. He was really rejecting his Lord. It is not humiliating to the Master to allow Him to work for our purification. The truest humility is to receive with thankful heart any provision made in our behalf, and with earnestness do service for Christ. {Ellen White, The Desire of Ages, 646.1}
“At the words, “If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with Me,” Peter surrendered his pride and self-will. He could not endure the thought of separation from Christ; that would have been death to him. “Not my feet only,” he said, “but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit.” {Ellen White, The Desire of Ages, 646.2}
“These words mean more than bodily cleanliness. Christ is still speaking of the higher cleansing as illustrated by the lower. He who came from the bath was clean, but the sandaled feet soon became dusty, and again needed to be washed. So Peter and his brethren had been washed in the great fountain opened for sin and uncleanness. Christ acknowledged them as His. But temptation had led them into evil, and they still needed His cleansing grace. When Jesus girded Himself with a towel to wash the dust from their feet, He desired by that very act to wash the alienation, jealousy, and pride from their hearts. This was of far more consequence than the washing of their dusty feet. With the spirit they then had, not one of them was prepared for communion with Christ. Until brought into a state of humility and love, they were not prepared to partake of the paschal supper, or to share in the memorial service which Christ was about to institute. Their hearts must be cleansed. Pride and self-seeking create dissension and hatred, but all this Jesus washed away in washing their feet. A change of feeling was brought about. Looking upon them, Jesus could say, “Ye are clean.” Now there was union of heart, love for one another. They had become humble and teachable. Except Judas, each was ready to concede to another the highest place. Now with subdued and grateful hearts they could receive Christ's words.” {Ellen White, The Desire of Ages, 646.3}
Peter had “come from the bath”, in a spiritual sense, in having already been washed in the great fountain opened for sin and uncleanness. But then his feet soon became dusty, in a spiritual sense, and they again needed to be washed.
Known sin is to be put away before baptism. But this doesn’t mean that a person won’t stumble and need to be cleansed again. This happened to Peter. As we just read, he needed to be prepared to be able to partake of the Lord’s Supper.
It is known sin that must be put away before baptism. To use another illustration, we see that a corn of wheat must fall into the ground and die before it can bring forth fruit (see COL 86.2, 86.3). This is just the planting. Then develops the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear. Known sin is put away at the planting, but once known sin is put away there can still be plague spots in the character (see DA 301.1) that will be revealed and corrected throughout our sanctification (the development to the full corn in the ear - see 2SP 244.1). Like I mentioned in the video, that is another study, which I couldn’t do justice to in the comments section here, but I hope these few thoughts help.
BOTTOM LINE? When everything is said and done. Then what?
"It is written???????" Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
"It is written???????" Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
My brethren and sisters, appreciate and study the truths God has given for you and your children. Spend not your time in seeking to know that which will be no spiritual help. "What shall I do to inherit eternal life?" (Luke 10:25). This is the all-important question, and it has been clearly answered. "What is written in the law? how readest thou?"--Manuscript 26, 1901. {1SM 174.4}
"It is written???????" Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.
17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
"It is written???????" 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
It is written??????? Exodus 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
"It is written???????" Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
"It is written???????" Matthew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
False doctrine or ideas is an idol, "trinity/godhead", "Christ's mass", and "Halloween"? ETC? IDOLATRY.
In rejecting the truth, men reject its Author. In trampling upon the law of God, they deny the authority of the Law-giver. It is as easy to make an idol of false doctrines and theories as to fashion an idol of wood or stone. By misrepresenting the attributes of God, Satan leads men to conceive of Him in a false character. With many, a philosophical idol is enthroned in the place of Jehovah; while the living God, as He is revealed in His word, in Christ, and in the works of creation, is worshiped by but few. Thousands deify nature while they deny the God of nature. Though in a different form, idolatry exists in the Christian world today as verily as it existed among ancient Israel in the days of Elijah. The god of many professedly wise men, of philosophers, poets, politicians, journalists-the god of polished fashionable circles, of many colleges and universities, even of some theological institutions-is little better than Baal, the sun-god of Phoenicia. {DD 29.1}
No outward shrines may be visible, there may be no image for the eye to rest upon, yet we may be practicing idolatry. It is as easy to make an idol of cherished ideas or objects as to fashion gods of wood or stone. Thousands have a false conception of God and His attributes. They are as verily serving a false god as were the servants of Baal. Are we worshiping the true God as He is revealed in His Word, in Christ, in nature, or are we adoring some philosophical idol enshrined in His place? God is a God of truth. Justice and mercy are the attributes of His throne. He is a God of love, of pity and tender compassion. Thus He is represented in His Son, our Saviour. He is a God of patience and long-suffering. If such is the being whom we adore and to whose character we are seeking to assimilate, we are worshiping the true God. {LHU 143.4}
Work of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing.--There will be, even among us, hirelings and wolves in sheep's clothing who will persuade [some of] the flock of God to sacrifice unto other gods before the Lord. . . . Youth who are not established, rooted and grounded in the truth, will be corrupted and drawn away by the blind leaders of the blind; and the ungodly, the despisers that wonder and perish, who despise the sovereignty of the Ancient of Days, and place on the throne a false god, a being of their own defining, a being altogether such an one as themselves--these agents will be in Satan's hands to corrupt the faith of the unwary. {3SM 398.1}
The Charm of New Theories
Every phase of fanaticism and erroneous theories, claiming to be the truth, will be brought in among the remnant people of God. These will fill minds with erroneous sentiments which have no part in the truth for this time. Any man who supposes that in the strength of his own devised resolutions, in his intellectual might united with science or supposed knowledge, he can start a work which will conquer the world, will find himself lying among the ruins of his own speculations, and will plainly understand why he is there. . . . {2SM 14.2}
From the light given me of the Lord, men will arise speaking perverse things. Yea, already they have been working and speaking things which God has never revealed, bringing sacred truth upon a level with common things. Issues have been and will continue to be made of men's conceited fallacies, not of truth. The devisings of men's minds will invent tests that are no tests at all, that when the true test shall be made prominent, it shall be considered on a par with the man-made tests that have (15) been of no value. We may expect that everything will be brought in and mingled with sound doctrine, but by clear, spiritual discernment, by the heavenly anointing, we must distinguish the sacred from the common which is being brought in to confuse faith and sound judgment, and demerit the great, grand, testing truth for this time. . . . {2SM 14.3}
Never, never was there a time when the truth suffered more from being misrepresented, belittled, demerited through the perverse disputings of men than in these last days. Men have brought themselves in with their heterogeneous mass of heresies which they represent as oracles for the people. The people are charmed with some strange new thing, and are not wise in experience to discern the character of ideas that men may frame up as something. But to call it something of great consequence and tie it to the oracles of God, does not make it truth. Oh, how this rebukes the low standard of piety in the churches. {2SM 15.1}
Men who want to present something original will conjure up things new and strange, and without consideration will step forward on these unstable theories, that have been woven together as a precious theory, and present it as a life and death question.--Letter 136a, 1898. {2SM 15.2}
No one in the world has truth and it makes no difference what the religion is. This isn't the era we are living in. The era we are in is the whole world was deceived. This is where we are and this is where we have been for 1,000's of years.
Do you pray?
@@SeerSeekingTruth Are you familiar with the father of lies? So? what are you going to do about it? Stay with the status quo?
@@mmcrae2109 Keep praying until you turn blue. What kind of brain do you have that produces the faculties of your mind? I guess you just go with your instinct, instead of conscience. Can you make a decision? So? do you do something about what you are praying for? Or some spirit have to do it for you. Some power from outer space maybe? 100% total SPIRITUALISM/SPIRITISM. Are you a spiritualist? There is a thin transparent line the separates between faith, and presumption my friend. Get my drift?
EGW's warning of the changes.
“I am charged to tell our people that they do not realize that the devil has device and device, and he carries them out in ways that they do not expect. Satan’s agencies will invent ways to make sinners out of saints. I tell you now, that when I am laid to rest, great changes will take place. I do not know when I shall be taken; and I desire to warn all against the devices of the devil. I want the people to know that I warned them fully before my death.” - Manuscript 1, February 24, 1915
The Track of Error vs The Track of Truth.
The track of truth lies close beside the track of error, and both tracks may seem to be one to minds which are not worked by the Holy Spirit(Powerful Holy mind(Spirit/divinity/divine nature) of God, and which, therefore, are not quick to discern the difference between truth and error. {1SM 202.2}
@@SeerSeekingTruth No one in the world has truth? How about the 100% real human Christ? That thousands of human mind claiming to be "Christians"? What kind of Christ are they claim to? Here is, his warning. See if it makes sense.
"It is written???????" Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
JUST BECAUSE THIS GUY USES SCRIPTURES AND SPIRIT OF PROPHECY PASSAGES. DOES NOT MEAN HE IS TELLING ABSOLUTE TRUTH? SELECTIVELY RIPPING THOSE PASSAGES TO SUPPORT SOME SATANIC IDEAS.
"It is written???????" Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
"It is written???????" Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart(mind); and lean not unto thine own understanding.
3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
When the leading churches(SDA?) of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common,(THE HOLY SPIRIT? ETC.) shall influence the State to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result. {GC88 445.1}
Respectfully the "bible" cannot be a standard. The canon of both Christian and Jewish scriptures are merely collections of books put together by men. Unfortunately this just flat out isn't the case and there are even multitudes of errors and problems in the KJV bible itself.
So who is the god you are ascribing to? yourself?
Not only creed, but total orthodoxy. From the Sunday keepers.