First time I listened to this demo, back in '84, the heaviest thing I had ever heard was Slayer's Show no Mercy and I couldn't believe another band could be harder and heavier than Slayer!!
I couldn't imagine how shocked and fascinated you were at the first. I'm a huge fan of Extreme metal. I really wish i could taste that feeling at its time but i was born in 1999.
wow, were you a part of that early scene of death metal in Florida? how did you get a hold of this? really curious about you early pioneers of this music!
Rest in Peace ''Chuck'' Schuldiner. We miss you. Fact: His name is actually Charles Michael Schuldiner. But no matter his name, him, The Father of Death Metal will always be remembered.
Can't we just go back in time 37 - 38 years ago and visit Death, Bathory, Sepultura, Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, Possessed in their rehearsal rooms ? That would be my number one wish if backward time travel was materialized into consumer applications.
I read that Mantas released it as a 4-track demo on September 7th, 1984, and then it was released as a five track demo a little later that year under the band name Death (adding the track Beyond the Unholy Grave). And this video/rip is the five track Death version, right? I'm asking in case I'm missing something obvious, and I'm curious. And I'm good at missing the obvious! :) EDIT: typos.
@@demonguysayshi2666 Yeah, this is correct. Chuck's always been playing guitar, and as far as I know, did the bass on the demos before SBG. He played guitar and bass for both SBG and Leprosy.
The thing is, the people behind Death (To All) won't do it, because then they're going to have to pay Kam Lee a lot of money. He co-wrote almost everything upto the tenth demo from Death. And even some of his lyrics were used on the first album ... and he was never credited for it as it should've ...
@@nxs6musique140 it is all there on encyclopedia metallum and on other sites like it. Also you can easily talk to all persons involved in Mantas, Death, ... DTA or even to people that were left out when they did DTA like: Rick Rozz, Kam Lee, ... that is called looking further than the obvious ...
The earliest releases of every metal band that cranked things up a notch towards Extreme/Death metal Black Sabbath 1970 Death SS 1977 Angel Witch 1978 Venom 1980 Mercyful Fate 1981 Hellhammer 1983 Slayer 1983 Celtic Frost 1984 Death 1984 (the time it was officially born)
Oh absolutely. Didn't you know that Five Finger Death Punch is the true metal? Death were just wannabes. Edit: oh shoot I thought I was still commenting on this page: ua-cam.com/video/3i4NYpBb3m0/v-deo.html hahaha
Yeah, this sounds more like Death Metal (on some tracks) than Possessed. Morbid Visions of Sepultura was also much more Death Metal-esque than Seven Churches. Evil Dead sounds like Possessed.
@@Krypt708 As said by others, not Chuck. After all this is a very early demo and the lineup wasn't compelte. He did play guitar on this I'm pretty sure.
@@GamerZz-yu7lw Chuck died from a brain tumor. He was diagnosed in 1999 but didn't have enough money to treat it, resulting in his death on December 13, 2001.
I’ve been doing research on extreme metal/punk. This is the oldest example of blast beats in metal that I can find. If anyone knows of any metal comparable to this around this era please let me know. Been searching for oldest bands with blast beats/guttural vocals particularly. Beastie Boys song Riot Fight and the first demo Swedish crust band Asocial were both 82. The Asocial demo is basically straight crust grind. There was also an American noisecore band called Cymanid in 82. Those are the oldest examples I can find of blast beats.
@@ewert2776 They’re not . Think they just have a demo tape. Idk how accurate the info is on em, but they can up in my studies! 🤣 ua-cam.com/video/HFx65WlLNc0/v-deo.html
@1 UP The riff actually sounds better than the spiritual healing version in my opinion. This demo is a godamn crystal of death metal. Cant get any better than this tbh.
@@miguelangelgonzalezdelaros5616 riffs seem to be pretty much the same, but mantas/ early death is death metal, fecal matter is punk rock, nothing mutual in genres
I really doubt it, mayhem formed in 1984 and I doubt he’d get his hands on a copy of this demo tape all the way from Florida, and to be fair SBG and Deathcrush came out in the same year- its also just a really simple riff
@@kostka8152 Even in that case is interesting to know that it was a similar riff for the first black metal song and for the first death metal song. Thanks
Yeah it's the same riff! I knew this reminded me something but I didn't know what. Mayhem just played it in a less chuggy way. Euronymous was very aware of what was going on in the underground and I think it's entirely possible copied it in 1987, when Death had it's first album released.
@@eriknebularraven No. Just the the song " Death Metal" which is important nonetheless. Musically, Thrash Metal. Lyrics alone do not designate a band's genre. If you think Possessed, totally valid. I wrestled with it for years. Important? No. Fun? Yes.
Kam Lee was actually the co-founder of Mantas/Death and creator of the original Deathlogo. So it isn't "Kam Lee from Massacre", but Kam Lee from Death also Massacre, Bonegnawer, GraveWax, ....
Same period in time, how can one demo be a copy of another demo, when they were released aprox same time?? Possessed, Mantas (this demo), Master/Deathsttike, ... all same period deifferent locations. Not necessarly copying eachother, probably same idea at same time. Like the saying: great minds think alike.
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tracklist:
Legion of Doom 0:00
Evil Dead 3:34
Beyond the Unholy Grave 6:45
Power of Darkness 9:59
Death by Metal 12:31
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The Legion of Doom opening riff is the hook riff for Spiritual Healing.
fate_f30 yeah it’s pretty cool
Practice what you preach!!!
And the same for Deathcrush of Mayhem!!!
Haha, you're totally right - how did I miss that!? I always loved that riff: It's very Iommi but somehow very Chuck, too.
Rick Rozz swears up and down that he came up with that and I tend to believe him
First time I listened to this demo, back in '84, the heaviest thing I had ever heard was Slayer's Show no Mercy and I couldn't believe another band could be harder and heavier than Slayer!!
I couldn't imagine how shocked and fascinated you were at the first. I'm a huge fan of Extreme metal. I really wish i could taste that feeling at its time but i was born in 1999.
wow, were you a part of that early scene of death metal in Florida? how did you get a hold of this? really curious about you early pioneers of this music!
@@Gabe-1997
Haha why are you curious ?
@@Gabe-1997 tape trading maybe?
how “underground” would bad brains black flag and suicidal tendencies have been to metalheads in the 80s
Rest in Peace ''Chuck'' Schuldiner. We miss you.
Fact: His name is actually Charles Michael Schuldiner. But no matter his name, him, The Father of Death Metal will always be remembered.
We all know that, genius. Chuck is short for Charles.
him will always be remembered
@@analeyesanalyzeanallies5579 i didn’t know that
What are you saying tf is the fact? 😂😂
Can't we just go back in time 37 - 38 years ago and visit Death, Bathory, Sepultura, Hellhammer, Celtic Frost, Possessed in their rehearsal rooms ? That would be my number one wish if backward time travel was materialized into consumer applications.
That would be cool. Add Sodom, Kreator, Slayer, Destruction, Exodus, Carcass, Napalm Death, Sarcofago, Razor, Necrophagia, Autopsy, so many.
This is Mantas, they weren't calling themselves Death yet.
I read that Mantas released it as a 4-track demo on September 7th, 1984, and then it was released as a five track demo a little later that year under the band name Death (adding the track Beyond the Unholy Grave). And this video/rip is the five track Death version, right?
I'm asking in case I'm missing something obvious, and I'm curious. And I'm good at missing the obvious! :)
EDIT: typos.
in this album, the drummer was as a vocalist and Schuldiner as bassist
That explains the solos😂
Nah, I'm pretty sure that chuck was always playing guitar, although he might've recorded the bass on SBG and leprosy
@@demonguysayshi2666 Yeah, this is correct. Chuck's always been playing guitar, and as far as I know, did the bass on the demos before SBG. He played guitar and bass for both SBG and Leprosy.
chuck - guitar, vocals sometimes
rick - guitar
kam- drums, vocals
Some of the best quality for a demo, you can clearly hear the instruments, even if it's a bit muffled.
Great songs too!
Yes!
If I'm being honest, the old school quality just adds to the experience.
Actually it was a rehearsal room recording with one Mic on the top of the room. Same for Sodom and so on...
@@morighost3623 Not just any rehearsal room either: This was recorded in the garage of Chuck's childhood home.
I wish they had stuff like this on Spotify!
Is more death metal’s in the 70s too Ik my friend give me credit
somebody should do a compilation of all the demo songs until scream bloody gore into one "album"... that would be sick
There are. Something called Death anthology. A tribute to chuck etc..
The thing is, the people behind Death (To All) won't do it, because then they're going to have to pay Kam Lee a lot of money. He co-wrote almost everything upto the tenth demo from Death. And even some of his lyrics were used on the first album ... and he was never credited for it as it should've ...
@@marchanlet7416How do we know that what you're saying is true?
@@nxs6musique140 it is all there on encyclopedia metallum and on other sites like it.
Also you can easily talk to all persons involved in Mantas, Death, ... DTA or even to people that were left out when they did DTA like: Rick Rozz, Kam Lee, ... that is called looking further than the obvious ...
The earliest releases of every metal band that cranked things up a notch towards Extreme/Death metal
Black Sabbath 1970
Death SS 1977
Angel Witch 1978
Venom 1980
Mercyful Fate 1981
Hellhammer 1983
Slayer 1983
Celtic Frost 1984
Death 1984 (the time it was officially born)
mantas was formed 1983
How is Metallica not on here?
@@tomwilliams4152 Early Metallica was thrash metal band. They are not extreme.
@@user-nb3yh2pd4k they were considered extreme in the early years absolutely
@@tomwilliams4152
No. NEVER.
No one think like u.
They are just thrash since they were formed
Kam Lee does the vocals on this demo but Chuck Schuldiner does vocals on the song the Power Of Darkness!
He does two songs
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!
I really love the way Evil Dead sounds on this demo... Holy crap
It's Kam Lee not chuck
@@isuckatbass2552 Vocals or guitar?
@@MyNameBibo on vocals
This is a demo from 84 and is very decent quality if you compare to some grindcore demo you here actually
Man I like this better than "scream bloody gore" wow struth it gets me moist.
Oh absolutely. Didn't you know that Five Finger Death Punch is the true metal? Death were just wannabes.
Edit: oh shoot I thought I was still commenting on this page: ua-cam.com/video/3i4NYpBb3m0/v-deo.html hahaha
@@WhatsReallyGoingOn84 HAHA FIVE FINGER DICK LUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone confused about which band started death metal between Possessed and Death needs to listen to this.
Possessed started the term, Death started the genre. it's simple as that
@@xyvxyethe5584 so, they just removed "by" from this demo?
Hellhammer/Frost, Master/Deathstrike...
Who cares honestly?
Possessed recorded a 1984 demo called "Death Metal", but whole demo sounds like thrash or hardcore idk
Yeah, this sounds more like Death Metal (on some tracks) than Possessed. Morbid Visions of Sepultura was also much more Death Metal-esque than Seven Churches. Evil Dead sounds like Possessed.
evil dead was ripped off "Amazon" song by Sortilege , one of chuck's favorite bands ever
and btw
possessed sounds more like thrash metal not death
Shockingly good quality for a death metal demo from 84 lol
Kam Lee. Fantastic vocals!
that is not kam lee, thats chuck
@@Krypt708 Kam Lee, legend.
@@Krypt708 As said by others, not Chuck. After all this is a very early demo and the lineup wasn't compelte. He did play guitar on this I'm pretty sure.
Chuck Schuldiner - guitar, vocals on Power of Darkness
Kam Lee - drums, vocals
Rick Rozz - guitar
@@Krypt708😂😂😂 that's Kam Lee, bro.
Never knew the Spiritual Healing chorus riff came from Legion of Doom. Super cool!
Imagen how mind blowing it must’ve been for someone listening to this in 1984. I’m listening in 2021 and im fucking mind blown
Death By Metal By Death
Very cool! Great quality! RIP Chuck!
How did chuck die?
@Daily Sandwich
Throat cancer...
13.12.2001.
@@dailysandwich4838 brain tumor
@@GamerZz-yu7lw Chuck died from a brain tumor. He was diagnosed in 1999 but didn't have enough money to treat it, resulting in his death on December 13, 2001.
its actually crazy to think that chuck sounded like this when he was 16
The solo on Evil Dead sounds better on the demo than on the actual album!
Awesome thanks for posting!!!
Esto si suena a lo primer disco de Death Metal de la Historia
I agree. Still pretty thrashy but some parts are pure death metal essence, much more than Seven Churches or Scream Bloody Gore.
Y los demos anteriores de possessed no cuentan ?. KMOT
Y los demos anteriores de possessed no cuentan ?. KMOT
@@jaimegodoy757 El primer demo de possessed es del 84 tambien, pero suena mas thrash que otra cosa a comparación con esto
@@mranggmer7974DEATH lo patentó , POSSESSED lo creo . Mi impresión
Amazing quality! thanks for sharing
I’ve been doing research on extreme metal/punk. This is the oldest example of blast beats in metal that I can find. If anyone knows of any metal comparable to this around this era please let me know. Been searching for oldest bands with blast beats/guttural vocals particularly. Beastie Boys song Riot Fight and the first demo Swedish crust band Asocial were both 82. The Asocial demo is basically straight crust grind. There was also an American noisecore band called Cymanid in 82. Those are the oldest examples I can find of blast beats.
I can find nothing for cymanid, are they even on discogs?
@@ewert2776 They’re not . Think they just have a demo tape. Idk how accurate the info is on em, but they can up in my studies! 🤣
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There are no blastbeats in this demo
@@figu6ka3794:19
not metal but heres the first one
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Thanks for sharing
Oh my lord what a demo 💀🖤
Ty for your Throat Lam. R.I.P. Chuck.
chuck doin gutturals?
fucking sick
I’m pretty sure this demo was made before Chuck done vocals
Evil Dead!! Goose bumps. So freakin awesome.
Absolutely amazing..all hail...
Spiritual healing is a masterpiece....
what does that have to do with this demo lol
@@mr.hedgehog420 the intro riff is the same riff as the hook of spiritual healing
@@mr.hedgehog420lol
@@victherattlehead5099indeed, conoisseur.
Best Cover Art ever. ☠️
It's so awesome hear Evil dead opening tunes ♥
thx to kam lee
Ty Marco!
@1 UP The riff actually sounds better than the spiritual healing version in my opinion. This demo is a godamn crystal of death metal. Cant get any better than this tbh.
Interesting, the riff from Legion of Doom was later re-used in 1990 in the song Spiritual Healing.
Gracias!!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
sehr gut
This rip sounds completely different than the relapse issue. In this some parts are cut and the relapse one sounds like it was mixed differently
Legendary
Que musicota!!!! Increible en esa época
Wanna me show my age ? I still got my original copy, purchased directly from Chuck back in the day.
Cool
Sorry about the typo
Damn
I'd personally love seeing it in action at some point if you wouldn't mind posting a video or something
I died listening to this! 10/10 would listen again!
Unbelievable extremity for the time
thanks man. I just copied it to a tape...hell, this shit is good
Oj, jest dobre
essential
nice
Yep. When this came out, there was nothing heavier!
love this sound.. dont have to hit every note perfectly just fucking RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1983!
Is that a low C note I hear in 1984?
What bands were the biggest influences on this 1984 tape?
this is some good shit
I gotta listen to some more old school DM demos. Never knew how fucking brutal a demo could be.
BTUHG sounds great and the scream at the end is sick as fuck🤘🤘
Thought the same about Unholy Grave. That scream around 12:00 is insane.
Badass
Hammer Qualität, hast du den Rip sonst noch irgendwo hochgeladen oder nur auf UA-cam?
Evil Dead would later be in Screamy Bloody Gore
This was when death metal began
2:11 Immolation
Vocal sounds like the hell spirit's from film evil dead
Awesome Demo! Raw as fuck! Way Ahead of the game at the time! ..
Kam Lee has the best voice for death metal
apocalipse wayyy
Holy shit this was faster than hellhammer satanic rites lol
Martin van Drunen brought me here
Why is the pitch than usual? Did death used to play in c standard?
Does anybody have the lyrics of "Death by Metal"?
Power of darkness sounds like witching metal by sodom. Anyone else?
0:00 to 3:34 - Anorexorcist of FECAL MATTER after NIRVANA!! WTF!!!!!!!!!! I think nobody noticed about this!!!!
I don't think Kurdt listened to death metal, he was more into zeppelin and sabbath stuff
@@viktorr5060 listen and compare both songs and years also
@@miguelangelgonzalezdelaros5616 so I did
@@viktorr5060 So then? What happened? I realized when the song started..
@@miguelangelgonzalezdelaros5616 riffs seem to be pretty much the same, but mantas/ early death is death metal, fecal matter is punk rock, nothing mutual in genres
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, the first song is pretty similar to Deathcrush of Mayhem (I mean, could Mayhem have copied Chuck?)
I really doubt it, mayhem formed in 1984 and I doubt he’d get his hands on a copy of this demo tape all the way from Florida, and to be fair SBG and Deathcrush came out in the same year- its also just a really simple riff
@@kostka8152 Even in that case is interesting to know that it was a similar riff for the first black metal song and for the first death metal song. Thanks
Yeah it's the same riff! I knew this reminded me something but I didn't know what. Mayhem just played it in a less chuggy way. Euronymous was very aware of what was going on in the underground and I think it's entirely possible copied it in 1987, when Death had it's first album released.
@@juliana.gonzalezibarra2169 Deathcrush first "black metal" song? Have you heard of Bathory?
@@kostka8152 Everybody was trading tapes worldwide
11:55
Is death first invented death metal genres ? Or possessed ?
Both of their first demos came out in 84
@@seventybelow139 i think possessed first cause seven churches
@@eriknebularraven Gents. Death-D.M...Possessed-Death/Thrash-R.I.P. Chuck.
@@cplineberger really ? for me seven churches is totally death metal.
@@eriknebularraven No. Just the the song " Death Metal" which is important nonetheless. Musically, Thrash Metal. Lyrics alone do not designate a band's genre. If you think Possessed, totally valid. I wrestled with it for years. Important? No. Fun? Yes.
Sleepy Joe's tier list lead me here
WHOS SINGING ?, DOESNT SOUND CHUCKIESH 4 ME
Kam Lee from massacre
kudos to you !..!:
Kam Lee was actually the co-founder of Mantas/Death and creator of the original Deathlogo. So it isn't "Kam Lee from Massacre", but Kam Lee from Death also Massacre, Bonegnawer, GraveWax, ....
Chuck sings in Power of Darkness I believe
@@marchanlet7416 I have a random gravewax cassette around somewhere. Kinda decent.
Cassettes sucks in a good way lol
Yeah the hiss adds to the atmosphere
Just a band that copied Possessed
Same period in time, how can one demo be a copy of another demo, when they were released aprox same time??
Possessed, Mantas (this demo), Master/Deathsttike, ... all same period deifferent locations. Not necessarly copying eachother, probably same idea at same time.
Like the saying: great minds think alike.
Vocals kim lee
First growls?
Somberdance, To think of it gives chill, nah, man?
Hellhammer/Celtic Frost?