xx i think that duran had the smartest defence out of them all i mean he was truly dynamic it was like watching a peice of art when you see him slipping then punches
What made duran so special defensively was that he transtitioned from his aggressive offense to his defense at a high speed , he didn't think defense first he was a offensive machine with great defensive skills at the same time , almost a seamless transition!!!
Duran is absolutely unstoppable at 135, he uses Pep's spinning the opponent around technique perfectly, that is how he was able to keep Leonard on the ropes all night in the 1st one, nobody does that properly now.
I love watching Duran. I don't think there's ever ben a boxer with a more dynamic and great looking style. The way he could slip and dodge and still be in his opponents face was a marvel to watch. Even as he got older and slower, he still knew how to take the power out of his opponents punches, even if he was no longer fast enough to entirely avoid them.
In my opinion that is what this video is all about. Showing the different methods employed, from Ali's reflexes and use of angles, to Duran's rolling and slipping while going forward. It's a great video!
Agreed. Good vid, and I knew Duran would be in this vid. The guy was damn near impossible to hit with a clean punch especially at lightweight. The old saying was "Leonard would make u miss by a foot, Duran by an inch." Amazing.
Thanks, I hadn't seen it on a first glow ! What an impresive subtility. But my favorite move is Walcott's left uppercut at 1:33 against Charles. Another thing you just don't see anymore neither.
@TheGreatA: I am so glad you have Wilfred Benitez in there not that you could have igneored his defensive wizardry because he is regarded as one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. The most amazing thing about Wilfred Benitez is hardly ever moved his feet when evading punches. His genius was the fact that he could stand in one place, not moving his feet and still not get hit! He was simply amazing! The other thing is he fought his whole career moving backwards! One word, wow!
Mike Tyson had the best defense that set up the offensive attack that I have ever seen. The greatest defense does nothing for you if you can just dodge punches, but never hit them back. Everything Tyson did defensive wise set him up for his own combinations, which made him so incredible.
Thanks bro. I just watch your two vids..... You are a real boxing fan, and knows a lot about it. I believe you've practice this sport, otherwise you won't make such perfect choices. See you on the ring brother.
This is all I could fit in two parts. As I said, part 3 is a work in progress. I wouldn't say that all of these fighters had amazing reflexes. It's mostly knowing where the opponent is going to throw a punch, before he even throws it. A video about the hardest p4p punchers of all time is certainly a possibility.
2 fighters stood out to me the most in this video - Ali and Duran. Duran=the greatest lightweight who ever lived bar none. However, every time I watch Mayweather I am convinced of one thing - he may well be the most gifted boxer who ever lived. That doesnt mean I am saying he is the greatest to have laced them up but as far as pure god given talent, he ranks above everyone I have seen in my eyes. He can do it all in the ring, box, brawl, defend, attack and I think he punches plenty hard enough.
Walcott was so slick, could stick and move with that lateral and diagonal step. Ali was pure leg speed in his early days. After his legal battle, he was easier to hit.
George Benton should be on this list. He had the best balanced and most stylish defensive style of boxing iv ever seen. One of the greats that never got a title shot.
James Toney, Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright are all HUGE exclusions from this list. I hope he makes a part three, with those guys, and Tyson. Although with Tyson you could argue that he didn't have a sustainably great defense like the other three who maintained their defensive prowess throughout their whole career.
Ha Benitez, what a sweet fefender, you're right, as for Lochhe who is incredible. And about the "Old Mongoose" defense, look at Foreman's one and you will understand why Archie Moore was his coach for a time....
ahhh a true connoisseur of the sweet science, watched a vid on Charley Burley other day, he's the originator of the shell defence right? absolutely sublime. Don't think anyone before him was so defensively astute.
ur totally right. same with tyson.tyson was a great offensive fighter,but at the same time he had great head movement and upper body movement. it s hard to say he was a great defensive fighter, but still he had great defense.same with roberto duran
Both part 1 and part 2 of this video had all of the good defensive fighters. Roy Jones Jr, Prince Naseem Hamed, James Toney had great to brilliant denfense as well.
I think Charley Burley had a better defense. Burley had the slip, the roll, the shoulder roll and lateral movement in a way Floyd simply doesn't possess.
haha,me too, I like to learn stuff from Walcott because he's not fast, he relies of great technique. There's a video where Walcott trains for the Marciano fight and there's a clip there where he spars and he fakes going one way-he goes that way, but then he literally glides the other way, I can't describe it, but it's so cool, you need to see it.
"Hank Kaplan wrote, that his “defense is the best seen in the heavyweight division in many years.” In his fights with Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker each man only landed one significant punch in their entire fights. Tyson’s perpetual motion bob and weave was designed to make an opponent miss while always being in position to punch.
There are fighters that go into the ring with a "taking punches" gameplan. Ali's Rope-a-Dope is an obvious example. When Duran fought Moore he didn't care about taking his punches, he himself said that he knew Moore couldn't hurt him, and used this to batter the guy. Watch Benitez vs Hearns and you will see that sometimes when Hearns connects Benitez will roll with the punches renderring them almost useless. Slipping isn't the only type of defense.
This video needs James Toney and Winky Wright. Wright didn't just shell up like many people think, he set up all kinds of attacks. The man went 24 rounds with Mosley, and never got a scratch, need I say more about his defense? Oh yeah and he dominated both fights too, he had good offense and a terrific jab.
Marlon Starling should be on every list of greatest defensive fighters. Moochie could stand right in the pocket and not get hit , not a dancer but an inside defensive counter-puncher who had a great uppercut and peek-a-boo style. Should be TOP 5 All-Time , period.
nice video. n its good you put mayweather in there because hes a great defensive boxer which alot of people dont appreciate. you forgot whitaker though.
I've been planning on doing this for a while. I finally decided to put it together due to a thread in ESB boxing forum. Now I have made videos of the hardest hitters, the fastest boxers and the defensive artists. I think Whitaker, Locche, Pep and Benitez would be top 4 for just about anybody. Your video is good though but it's not where I got my inspiration.
Charley Burley, Mike & Tommy Gibbons, Niccolino Loche, Miquel Canto, Sweat Pea, Benitez, LaStarza.Duilio Loi..all great defensive fighters. I knew Jersey Joe Walcott personally, great fighter, but I wouldn't include him in my list of greatest defensive artists. He was very slick, but not one of the greatest Defensive fighters. Benton fought great in the pocket and his defensive skills were vastly underrated.
Rope-a-dope was about avoiding head punches by giving Ali an unnatural advantage in that he was able to lean back at angle not humanly possible without a rope,meaning he only had to protect his body, and often punching an elbow hurts ones fist. Its not like duran has never been tkoed, he has been, which shows its not a good strategy against real fighters.
I'm not sure I would define Muhammed Ali as having a great defense. Really with him he just had insane reflexes, and used angles like crazy. I guess that is technically defense, but not in the way you'd see from Mayweather or Toney etc. Ali really excelled because of his brains, he didn't have flashy defensive moves like shoulder rolls and such, he just never put himself in any bad situations. IDK maybe that's the point, but yeah his defense was all about smarts and very gifted reflexes.
Moore also was a Light Heavyweight, and Ezzard had beaten Louis, so I'm not sure it is so important, especialy because in this time heavyweights were "lighter" than now. But I totally agree with prime Tyson's defense, one of the most impressive I've ever seen. It is strange that most people remembers Mike as a pure puncher and not as the great defensive boxer he was !
Many of the fight Tyson fought against were undefeated guys with over 30 wins, guys who were world class boxers who were champions who had belts, who had beaten aging Muhammad Ali. Lewis was in his prime, after the fight ended he said he aged like a prime wine whereas Tyson was brighter earlier in his career. Tyson was in decline with the Douglas fight in 1990, he basically was fighting once a year for money post holyfield to fight Lewis in 2002
"Tell me about all of the greats that the Klitschko brothers and Abraham have fought. " "As for the Klitschkos? Wlad: Chagaev, Ibragimov, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Botha, Byrd, Rahman just to name a few! " Thanks for making my point. Ali fought Patterson in 1965. Liston did his best to KO Ali in their first fight but barely laid a glove on him.
Mayweather is the Greatest Defensive Fighter Ever imo! He's slick & has great upperbody movement but he is the greatest counterpuncher ever! That's why!
I agree there are definitely similarities. But check out my Willie Pep and Wilfred Benitez highlights, that's where I took most of my footage. I guess there's just a very limited amount of film that you can use of these great fighters, especially Pep and Locche. It's never a bad thing to have a couple of videos highlighting defense, since there are already hundreds of other videos which are all about the KO's. The true art of boxing has always been to hit and not get hit.
Ali was an incredible fighter. But his defense had flaws, and he did almost everything wrong. But he got away with it, because of his speed, reflexes, and athleticism. His flaws didn't start to reveal themselves, until 1970. That's when he was past his prime. Once he started to slow down, that's when he started to take a lot of punishment.
For a long time I've been planning on making a third part including the notable defensive artists who were left out. The problem has been that there are simply too many! No way to fit them all in. But with youtube's new 15 minute limit I might as well do another part by the end of the year.
Dropping your hands is not necessarily a weakness, it's got it's uses. Duran would take punches on purpose because he was a master at rolling with them. He chose to not use his defense like Benitez and other defensive fighters did, hence why he was so underrated defensively. Mayweather has a harder time against southpaws but he has shown improvement. And that is something Tyson never did, however that was because of his personal life issues.
hey man this is very nice .. i didnt realize how nice some of them old school dudes were.... how about JAMES TONEY footage if you have any he should rank as one of the best
I don't know enough about Archie moore to comment, but Jersey Joe, drops his hands as well and it cost him the Marciano fight, had he held that right hand up, woulda blocked that left hook. The fact that he is able to avoid being punched by even light heavyweights who move up with quick hand speed like Leon Spinks, or big power punchers shows his defensive genius. There are really just 4 fighters who could imo beat a prime tyson: Ali, Holyfield,Foreman, Lewis. And I am only certain of H n F
Right people who don't really understand or know the "sweet science" only look at the punching aspect of boxing not the things like slipping countering and other defensive maneuvers that take lots and lots of practice,and getting hit. Yes Benitez, young boy world champion when he fought Mustafa Hamsho he just couldn't get out of the way of his punches. Maybe his being a southpaw gave Benitez trouble."El Finito" Ricardo Lopez was an excellent defensive fighter also.
Jersey Joe had Marciano missing and wobbly a couple of times. Marciano got him late but I have to think if he would have went for it earlier, maybe he could have got Rocky!
@mikespikeforlife He was great at rolling with punches though. Jake Lamotta hardly ever got hit with the full force of a punch. It was the combination of a Great Chin with that ability that kept him off the deck.
I never said he was finished in all those fights by uppercuts, I said he got "beat up" by them the same way in most of his fights once he was exposed. You know, just because he got lazy on defense and got tired doesn't mean he wasn't getting nailed because of holes in his defense. My point is, he is not a defensive great. You should watch Emanuel Augustus. He was pretty good at making low level competition miss, yet whenever he fought a top opponent all of his holes were exposed.
@swedishduude I think they only fought once. I watch the fight all the way through and see if I spot that moment. If not maybe it is one of his other smaller fights.
Sorry about the Mayweather part ending up a little short. UA-cam wouldn't allow the video to go on any longer than 11 minutes. I'm aware that some of the fighters included here might not be what I'd describe as "defensive artists", for example Ali got hit a ton later on in his career and Duran was hardly defensive, but they were added to bring some variety to the video with their particular styles. I've been working on a third part but it'll take me a while until I finish that.
Walcotts career is pretty loaded with KO's, from Marciano, Charles, Louis, etc. Hard to call him all time great defensively when he was blitzed that many times…Camacho was one of the few guys who made boxing seem like a relatively harmless endeavor and seems more deserving...
I ran out of time, youtube has a limit of 10 minutes 59 seconds. Canto along with some others were originally included but I couldn't fit the whole video here. I've been planning on doing a third part for a while now but I haven't had had the time and there is still some footage that I need to acquire.
I think you included a lot of good head movements but you neglected the blow blocking part. I would have liked to see some Joe Louis blocking skills, you can also find that on Joe Gans or Jack Johnsons footages. Do you know that these guys used to catch even jabs with their glove open ? and Johnson used to hit his opponents biceps to tire them.. could be awesome to find that.. great vids though.
xx i think that duran had the smartest defence out of them all i mean he was truly dynamic it was like watching a peice of art when you see him slipping then punches
Thomas Grizzell I agree with you 100%.
What made duran so special defensively was that he transtitioned from his aggressive offense to his defense at a high speed , he didn't think defense first he was a offensive machine with great defensive skills at the same time , almost a seamless transition!!!
Ozzie Balan I agree with you 100%. Duran was amazing! A lot of people that don't understand boxing don't realize how good Duran was defensively.
Jose Ortega i agree he was good even one of the best but ahead of ali?? in defense?? idk about that one
Ali was easy to hit. Great offensive fighter, but no defense.
Jose Ortega 60's Ali was not easy to hit.
Cassius Clay was not easy to hit.
roberto duran was a amazing fighter, beautiful moves in every angle
xx roberto durans defence was truly dynamic he had the best defence ever i mean he was special lolll xx
Thomas Grizzell Durans head movement was amazing. He was also a great counter puncher.
Duran is absolutely unstoppable at 135, he uses Pep's spinning the opponent around technique perfectly, that is how he was able to keep Leonard on the ropes all night in the 1st one, nobody does that properly now.
I love watching Duran. I don't think there's ever ben a boxer with a more dynamic and great looking style. The way he could slip and dodge and still be in his opponents face was a marvel to watch.
Even as he got older and slower, he still knew how to take the power out of his opponents punches, even if he was no longer fast enough to entirely avoid them.
5:47 Ali shoulder rolls the right he knows its coming because hes circling towards it. Basic but beautiful to watch.
In my opinion that is what this video is all about. Showing the different methods employed, from Ali's reflexes and use of angles, to Duran's rolling and slipping while going forward.
It's a great video!
i got to check that out, the way he slips and returns with a counter is truly amazing. He was ahead of his time skill wise.
Agreed. Good vid, and I knew Duran would be in this vid. The guy was damn near impossible to hit with a clean punch especially at lightweight. The old saying was "Leonard would make u miss by a foot, Duran by an inch." Amazing.
:55-57 love the footwork from jersey joe, one of my favorite boxers. I've been trying to get that footwork pattern down for a while now, i love it
jersey joe wolcott at :54-58 that foot work and head movement is ridiculous, I have been trying to learn for a few months now. I love it
Thanks, I hadn't seen it on a first glow ! What an impresive subtility. But my favorite move is Walcott's left uppercut at 1:33 against Charles. Another thing you just don't see anymore neither.
@TheGreatA: I am so glad you have Wilfred Benitez in there not that you could have igneored his defensive wizardry because he is regarded as one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. The most amazing thing about Wilfred Benitez is hardly ever moved his feet when evading punches. His genius was the fact that he could stand in one place, not moving his feet and still not get hit! He was simply amazing! The other thing is he fought his whole career moving backwards! One word, wow!
Mike Tyson had the best defense that set up the offensive attack that I have ever seen. The greatest defense does nothing for you if you can just dodge punches, but never hit them back. Everything Tyson did defensive wise set him up for his own combinations, which made him so incredible.
Thanks bro. I just watch your two vids..... You are a real boxing fan, and knows a lot about it. I believe you've practice this sport, otherwise you won't make such perfect choices. See you on the ring brother.
hey, duran was a great defensive fighter. head movement like almost nobody else. great vid dude. keep them coming
Joder con Walcott!! Este tipo ya habia inventado el breakdance unas decadas antes, menudo portento el tipo.
Excelentes videos TheGreatA!!
thanks bro, been dying to to find that out for quite some time i really do appreciate it.
I wouldn't necessarily include Winky Wright and B Hop, but indeed James Toney, he's never been knocked out or stopped!!
Duran is so underrated as a defensive boxer.
This is all I could fit in two parts. As I said, part 3 is a work in progress.
I wouldn't say that all of these fighters had amazing reflexes. It's mostly knowing where the opponent is going to throw a punch, before he even throws it.
A video about the hardest p4p punchers of all time is certainly a possibility.
2 fighters stood out to me the most in this video - Ali and Duran. Duran=the greatest lightweight who ever lived bar none. However, every time I watch Mayweather I am convinced of one thing - he may well be the most gifted boxer who ever lived. That doesnt mean I am saying he is the greatest to have laced them up but as far as pure god given talent, he ranks above everyone I have seen in my eyes. He can do it all in the ring, box, brawl, defend, attack and I think he punches plenty hard enough.
Walcott was so slick, could stick and move with that lateral and diagonal step. Ali was pure leg speed in his early days. After his legal battle, he was easier to hit.
George Benton should be on this list. He had the best balanced and most stylish defensive style of boxing iv ever seen. One of the greats that never got a title shot.
Thanks for the video, THEGREATA
James Toney, Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright are all HUGE exclusions from this list. I hope he makes a part three, with those guys, and Tyson. Although with Tyson you could argue that he didn't have a sustainably great defense like the other three who maintained their defensive prowess throughout their whole career.
Ha Benitez, what a sweet fefender, you're right, as for Lochhe who is incredible. And about the "Old Mongoose" defense, look at Foreman's one and you will understand why Archie Moore was his coach for a time....
ahhh a true connoisseur of the sweet science, watched a vid on Charley Burley other day, he's the originator of the shell defence right? absolutely sublime. Don't think anyone before him was so defensively astute.
ur totally right. same with tyson.tyson was a great offensive fighter,but at the same time he had great head movement and upper body movement. it s hard to say he was a great defensive fighter, but still he had great defense.same with roberto duran
7:58 that's a good move, go Duran
Both part 1 and part 2 of this video had all of the good defensive fighters. Roy Jones Jr, Prince Naseem Hamed, James Toney had great to brilliant denfense as well.
I know. My point was that Pep, Loche and Whitaker were great defensively even when they got older.
Mike Tyson definitely... i think his other attributes make people look over how solid his defense was....
floyd has the best defense ever.. he's got the slip, the roll and the shoulder roll!!!
I think Charley Burley had a better defense. Burley had the slip, the roll, the shoulder roll and lateral movement in a way Floyd simply doesn't possess.
Ed's lah_rabia Floyd takes to many body shots.
Jose Ortega body shots feel good when u in shape bro..! so it's ok.
BreuckelensFinest Floyds jab and right hook are used a lot to the body
BreuckelensFinest All were great set up punches.
haha,me too, I like to learn stuff from Walcott because he's not fast, he relies of great technique. There's a video where Walcott trains for the Marciano fight and there's a clip there where he spars and he fakes going one way-he goes that way, but then he literally glides the other way, I can't describe it, but it's so cool, you need to see it.
"Hank Kaplan wrote, that his “defense is the best seen in the heavyweight division in many years.” In his fights with Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker each man only landed one significant punch in their entire fights. Tyson’s perpetual motion bob and weave was designed to make an opponent miss while always being in position to punch.
There are fighters that go into the ring with a "taking punches" gameplan. Ali's Rope-a-Dope is an obvious example. When Duran fought Moore he didn't care about taking his punches, he himself said that he knew Moore couldn't hurt him, and used this to batter the guy. Watch Benitez vs Hearns and you will see that sometimes when Hearns connects Benitez will roll with the punches renderring them almost useless. Slipping isn't the only type of defense.
This video needs James Toney and Winky Wright. Wright didn't just shell up like many people think, he set up all kinds of attacks. The man went 24 rounds with Mosley, and never got a scratch, need I say more about his defense? Oh yeah and he dominated both fights too, he had good offense and a terrific jab.
Marlon Starling should be on every list of greatest defensive fighters. Moochie could stand right in the pocket and not get hit , not a dancer but an inside defensive counter-puncher who had a great uppercut and peek-a-boo style. Should be TOP 5 All-Time , period.
Marlon starling had a superb defense mate... He cant be forgotten despite the fact he has never been a superstar
As the guy below said, Toney and Wright definitely both deserve mention.
nice video. n its good you put mayweather in there because hes a great defensive boxer which alot of people dont appreciate. you forgot whitaker though.
No Jack Johnson or Mike Tyson? I'm sure there are others that need to be on the list, time for part 3!
5:20 to 5:50 That's why boxing is called an art
I think he'll make an appearance along with some other lesser known defensive fighters.
I've been planning on doing this for a while. I finally decided to put it together due to a thread in ESB boxing forum. Now I have made videos of the hardest hitters, the fastest boxers and the defensive artists.
I think Whitaker, Locche, Pep and Benitez would be top 4 for just about anybody.
Your video is good though but it's not where I got my inspiration.
Charley Burley, Mike & Tommy Gibbons, Niccolino Loche, Miquel Canto, Sweat Pea, Benitez, LaStarza.Duilio Loi..all great defensive fighters. I knew Jersey Joe Walcott personally, great fighter, but I wouldn't include him in my list of greatest defensive artists. He was very slick, but not one of the greatest Defensive fighters. Benton fought great in the pocket and his defensive skills were vastly underrated.
+Storm Bringer Hey if you knew Jersey Joe could you tell me how he developed his style?
Rope-a-dope was about avoiding head punches by giving Ali an unnatural advantage in that he was able to lean back at angle not humanly possible without a rope,meaning he only had to protect his body, and often punching an elbow hurts ones fist. Its not like duran has never been tkoed, he has been, which shows its not a good strategy against real fighters.
I'm not sure I would define Muhammed Ali as having a great defense. Really with him he just had insane reflexes, and used angles like crazy. I guess that is technically defense, but not in the way you'd see from Mayweather or Toney etc. Ali really excelled because of his brains, he didn't have flashy defensive moves like shoulder rolls and such, he just never put himself in any bad situations. IDK maybe that's the point, but yeah his defense was all about smarts and very gifted reflexes.
Unfortunately youtube limits the length of the video to 11 minutes.
Moore also was a Light Heavyweight, and Ezzard had beaten Louis, so I'm not sure it is so important, especialy because in this time heavyweights were "lighter" than now. But I totally agree with prime Tyson's defense, one of the most impressive I've ever seen. It is strange that most people remembers Mike as a pure puncher and not as the great defensive boxer he was !
Herol Graham deserves an honourable mention!
Jack Johnson and Benny Leonard were also great defensive boxers.
In time, in time. Right now I have some other projects.
Many of the fight Tyson fought against were undefeated guys with over 30 wins, guys who were world class boxers who were champions who had belts, who had beaten aging Muhammad Ali. Lewis was in his prime, after the fight ended he said he aged like a prime wine whereas Tyson was brighter earlier in his career. Tyson was in decline with the Douglas fight in 1990, he basically was fighting once a year for money post holyfield to fight Lewis in 2002
"Tell me about all of the greats that the Klitschko brothers and Abraham have fought. "
"As for the Klitschkos? Wlad: Chagaev, Ibragimov, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Botha, Byrd, Rahman just to name a few! "
Thanks for making my point.
Ali fought Patterson in 1965. Liston did his best to KO Ali in their first fight but barely laid a glove on him.
Duran the greatest period.
Mayweather is the Greatest Defensive Fighter Ever imo! He's slick & has great upperbody movement but he is the greatest counterpuncher ever! That's why!
someone's probably arleady mentioned this, but wilfred benitez definitely for a third part.
I agree there are definitely similarities. But check out my Willie Pep and Wilfred Benitez highlights, that's where I took most of my footage.
I guess there's just a very limited amount of film that you can use of these great fighters, especially Pep and Locche.
It's never a bad thing to have a couple of videos highlighting defense, since there are already hundreds of other videos which are all about the KO's. The true art of boxing has always been to hit and not get hit.
winky wright, benny leonard, bernard hopkins and jack johnson would have deserved a place in that vid too
Cool crowd scene at 1:36
IMO Bernard Hopkins does too. He can slip, roll, and dodge punches as well as any middleweight to ever fight.
I've been viewing Helenius's fights since his amateur days.
What does Tyson have to do with anything? Do you see him in this video?
Jesey Joe footwork was giving fits to bamas!!!
Ali was an incredible fighter. But his defense had flaws, and he did almost everything wrong. But he got away with it, because of his speed, reflexes, and athleticism.
His flaws didn't start to reveal themselves, until 1970. That's when he was past his prime. Once he started to slow down, that's when he started to take a lot of punishment.
For a long time I've been planning on making a third part including the notable defensive artists who were left out. The problem has been that there are simply too many! No way to fit them all in. But with youtube's new 15 minute limit I might as well do another part by the end of the year.
Dropping your hands is not necessarily a weakness, it's got it's uses. Duran would take punches on purpose because he was a master at rolling with them. He chose to not use his defense like Benitez and other defensive fighters did, hence why he was so underrated defensively. Mayweather has a harder time against southpaws but he has shown improvement. And that is something Tyson never did, however that was because of his personal life issues.
hey man this is very nice .. i didnt realize how nice some of them old school dudes were....
how about JAMES TONEY footage if you have any
he should rank as one of the best
@UndeadFool
Boxing exhibition with Michael Dokes.
I don't know enough about Archie moore to comment, but Jersey Joe, drops his hands as well and it cost him the Marciano fight, had he held that right hand up, woulda blocked that left hook. The fact that he is able to avoid being punched by even light heavyweights who move up with quick hand speed like Leon Spinks, or big power punchers shows his defensive genius. There are really just 4 fighters who could imo beat a prime tyson: Ali, Holyfield,Foreman, Lewis. And I am only certain of H n F
its actually a very simple principle,like all great principles.A moving target is harder to hit,SO MOVE!!!!simple
What is the instrumental used for Ali's part of the video? It's excellent and fits Ali's style completely
Great Musics
I like the first one could you tell me its name please?
Right people who don't really understand or know the "sweet science" only look at the punching aspect of boxing not the things like slipping countering and other defensive maneuvers that take lots and lots of practice,and getting hit. Yes Benitez, young boy world champion when he fought Mustafa Hamsho he just couldn't get out of the way of his punches. Maybe his being a southpaw gave Benitez trouble."El Finito" Ricardo Lopez was an excellent defensive fighter also.
Thanks G.A
Could someone please tell me the song for Muhammed Ali's part? Absolutely beautiful song.
Jersey Joe had Marciano missing and wobbly a couple of times. Marciano got him late but I have to think if he would have went for it earlier, maybe he could have got Rocky!
Hans Zimmer - Maestro
@mikespikeforlife He was great at rolling with punches though. Jake Lamotta hardly ever got hit with the full force of a punch. It was the combination of a Great Chin with that ability that kept him off the deck.
Great video but too short of clip for Mayweather.. Would have loved to see more.
I never said he was finished in all those fights by uppercuts, I said he got "beat up" by them the same way in most of his fights once he was exposed. You know, just because he got lazy on defense and got tired doesn't mean he wasn't getting nailed because of holes in his defense. My point is, he is not a defensive great. You should watch Emanuel Augustus. He was pretty good at making low level competition miss, yet whenever he fought a top opponent all of his holes were exposed.
@swedishduude I think they only fought once. I watch the fight all the way through and see if I spot that moment. If not maybe it is one of his other smaller fights.
@Transformers217 thats true but before they striped him of his title the guy couldnt be touched
Nice vid man, could you tell me the name of the song that starts when the muhammad ali part starts
great vid,but again i wud have liked to see floyd more.He made sugar shane look normal.
I'd like you to add Marlon Starling too... if another video comes ogg
You can count the amount of times Ali was hit in his 1960's prime on one hand.
holy shit good catch.
@mwhitbc
If you want to see how good his defense is at top level, watch his fight against Mayweather.
@TheGreatA
Really? Good to know...well, I guess that's the best reason for only having a bit of film on him...thanks for the post nonetheless...
Sorry about the Mayweather part ending up a little short. UA-cam wouldn't allow the video to go on any longer than 11 minutes.
I'm aware that some of the fighters included here might not be what I'd describe as "defensive artists", for example Ali got hit a ton later on in his career and Duran was hardly defensive, but they were added to bring some variety to the video with their particular styles.
I've been working on a third part but it'll take me a while until I finish that.
hey thegreatA whats the name of the song on the mayweather frag.?? can u help i like it alot
@TheGreatA exactly...i can't even believe his name was mentioned.
What is the name of that first song?
Yeah what is it?
thats how you know joe louis is the best! watch him and walcott you see how amazing joe is hahah walcott just slipped a couple jabs but so did joe!
Walcotts career is pretty loaded with KO's, from Marciano, Charles, Louis, etc. Hard to call him all time great defensively when he was blitzed that many times…Camacho was one of the few guys who made boxing seem like a relatively harmless endeavor and seems more deserving...
Walcott got koed either by naturally bigger and stronger guys or when he was well past it, but in his prime that guy was a very slippery customer.
I ran out of time, youtube has a limit of 10 minutes 59 seconds. Canto along with some others were originally included but I couldn't fit the whole video here.
I've been planning on doing a third part for a while now but I haven't had had the time and there is still some footage that I need to acquire.
I think you included a lot of good head movements but you neglected the blow blocking part.
I would have liked to see some Joe Louis blocking skills, you can also find that on Joe Gans or Jack Johnsons footages. Do you know that these guys used to catch even jabs with their glove open ? and Johnson used to hit his opponents biceps to tire them.. could be awesome to find that..
great vids though.