But....muh shoulder! Two years ago, I strained something in my shoulder while benching and couldn't seem to rehab it. I eventually gave up trying, and switched to a machine (Hammer Strength Decline Chest Press). The decline arrangement seem to take the stress off whatever is messed up in the joint. I'm interested in hearing about the adjustments you make for old guys with bad shoulders.
Its often not worth the risk. Failing a reverse grip bench press can be fatal. Much easier than a normal grip. If you INSIST on doing it, best done with light weight and high reps. Something very easily controllable.
Exactly my point Reverse Grip Bench in a power rack with the safety bars set right above chest not any more dangerous than conventional overhand. It is actually safer on the shoulder joint because it allows external rotation and room for the shoulder to breathe.
You say that about the back, then mention curls? Lol I think chin-ups or barbell row would complete the workout better. They engage the biceps AND the back.
Rip tends to argue that Rows are less trainable than deadlifts and, to a lesser extent, power cleans. If you are doing deadlifts, power cleans, and chin-ups, you probably don’t “need” rows. To paraphrase Rip, get your deadlift up to 500 lbs first and you wouldn’t have to care about Rip’s opinion on Rows.
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Same, since I train alone, I’ve never felt comfortable setting my shoulders. I prefer push-ups. Also, I like to do a full horizontal press that ends with the shoulders shifting forward (think hollow body). Can’t do that on a bench. Finally, even the Starting Strength book says the push-up is a better movement pattern. Rip says that he only uses the bench because it is easier to load. While this is a fair point for the rank novice or advanced heavy bencher, the intermediate lifter can probably use push-up bars and a block filled vest to do push-up training with progressive overload similar to the bench.
It was featured in one of his previous videos. If I remember correctly the injuries to his neck were multiple and pretty serious, but he survived. My memory is fuzzy though go look it up.
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Great video Sully!
Brilliant, thanks for this one
But....muh shoulder! Two years ago, I strained something in my shoulder while benching and couldn't seem to rehab it. I eventually gave up trying, and switched to a machine (Hammer Strength Decline Chest Press). The decline arrangement seem to take the stress off whatever is messed up in the joint. I'm interested in hearing about the adjustments you make for old guys with bad shoulders.
Is Incline bench necessary?
Love this! nothing but facts!
Love the video. A video for reverse grip bench would be great. Thats my go to and I feel like alot of people have the wrong idea about it.
Zachary Schilleci i do it all the time for upper chest development
Its often not worth the risk. Failing a reverse grip bench press can be fatal. Much easier than a normal grip. If you INSIST on doing it, best done with light weight and high reps. Something very easily controllable.
frodo the hobo of course I do it like that, like under 50% of my regular bench 1rm
Exactly my point Reverse Grip Bench in a power rack with the safety bars set right above chest not any more dangerous than conventional overhand. It is actually safer on the shoulder joint because it allows external rotation and room for the shoulder to breathe.
Being in the “Masters” category, I nearly needed to change my Depends after they flashed the “Average Stupidity Per Rep” formula.
“The back is the legs of the upper body” Dom’ Mazzetti
Add curls and the workout is complete.
overhead press*
You say that about the back, then mention curls? Lol I think chin-ups or barbell row would complete the workout better. They engage the biceps AND the back.
Where does the barbell row fit into your schema? Do you believe the back need direct work to be strong? Thanks from Calgary Alberta! Love the content!
The back is more important than working chest. Yes direct work is needed to avoid muscular imbalances that always lead to injury.
Barbell rows, dumbell rows and cable rows yeah baby
Rip tends to argue that Rows are less trainable than deadlifts and, to a lesser extent, power cleans. If you are doing deadlifts, power cleans, and chin-ups, you probably don’t “need” rows. To paraphrase Rip, get your deadlift up to 500 lbs first and you wouldn’t have to care about Rip’s opinion on Rows.
Add barbell rows Nd pullups to your deadlift, squat, Press and bench..
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Who is this series of videos aimed at? Narrowcasting to older lifters getting into or back into lifting weights?
Can't wait for you to talk about what has been the most beneficial exercise to me, the deadlift.
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He's already covered it on the Gray Steel channel.
Tip number one. Dont use a slippy wooden bench.
"This is not ideal....."
The athlete is supine during the bench? Uh. They are in pronation. Am I wrong?? Confused because he said this multiple times
"The supine position (/səˈpaɪn/ or /ˈsuːpaɪn/) means lying horizontally with the face and torso facing up, as opposed to the prone position, which is face down. "
@@justindankert7725 that makes PERCECT sense. Thanks!!
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I don't like the bench press that much, rather do push ups.
Same, since I train alone, I’ve never felt comfortable setting my shoulders. I prefer push-ups. Also, I like to do a full horizontal press that ends with the shoulders shifting forward (think hollow body). Can’t do that on a bench. Finally, even the Starting Strength book says the push-up is a better movement pattern. Rip says that he only uses the bench because it is easier to load. While this is a fair point for the rank novice or advanced heavy bencher, the intermediate lifter can probably use push-up bars and a block filled vest to do push-up training with progressive overload similar to the bench.
great video about benching. lots of big words that make you sound pretentious
Press > Bench Press.
Did I witness a death?
ya that looked less than optimal
It was featured in one of his previous videos. If I remember correctly the injuries to his neck were multiple and pretty serious, but he survived. My memory is fuzzy though go look it up.
my shoulders are too jenky now at age 54...it sucks and it hurts.
Still hurt