Who's the Most Powerful Decepticon in Transfomers? | All 48 Decepticons Ranked!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2023
- Transformers: Rise of the Beasts is out now, introducing us to not just the Maximals, but also one of the biggest villains in the entire series - Unicron. And not just Unicron the World Eater, but his faithful servants the Terrorcons as well. And today, well I think its time that we take a look at all the villains in these live-action, Bayverse movies (so the Decepticons, the Terrorcons, even the Infernocons, basically anyone fighting against the Autobots) and rank them all from weakest to strongest! Today, we’re gonna figure out who really is the most powerful villain out there in Transformers. So lets get to it!
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It's sad that Megatron got weaker and weaker every movie. In the first movie he was dangerous and could rival optimus in a 1v1 and then onwards he became a pushover. I love the Transfromers Prime series bc Megatron is a menace in there. Transformer Prime 🔛🔝
First movie meg was a menace, he probably 1vAll autobots
@@shin00keishing76 the one from tf 1 was weak as tf 2 one.
He just ate jazz's spark
What abt Megatron from tf 5
@@amenesaiesangnidjo4761 the way they had him scourge would whoop him
@@darkskinz0617 yeah lol.
Just megs from tf 1 and tlk would be enough.
Maybe galvatron too
Brawl deserves a higher position. He was able to put up fight against a 1v4. Brawl also was able to stand back up after suffering fatal injuries.
Facts. Brawl is always done dirty on these lists ong
Yeah, all the big decepticons from the first movie should be top ten
@@Lawlyayman facts Blackout was an absolute menace in the first movie, he gave no fucks. Took out the military base and went toe to toe with Ironhide in the final battle
I knew someone was gonna comment that so i wouldnt have too. Ty
he didn't put up any fight. he only threw jazz the smallest autobot. he didn't land another hit on anyone despite being covered head to toe in guns. he's a complete idiot
"Shockwave can defeat Megatron" *puts him far below Megatron*
He said "can stand up to" not necessarily defeat
Shockwave can not
Still, that should be enough to at least placed under him. Besides this Shockwave is actually a fighter. Other Shockwaves were just scientists so this version could definitely defeat Megatron. Optimus actually feared him, so did Megatron but he never showed it
Let's all agree he was really a total waste on the big screen made no sense at all
No one is agreeing with that HORRIBLE statement
Brawl should be much, much higher. In the 1st movie he held back and fought Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz on his own. He only died when he was blindsided by Bee and humans.
Yeah right?
He didn’t die
Amd throughoit half the fight his right arm was cut off due to ratchet, underrated 😤
@@N_Sweet_Dronehe did?
True
Scourge isn't a Decepticon,he's a Terrorcon. Going by the badges he has collected, he has killed Decepticons.
He said in the video that Scourge is a Terrorcon
He said in the begging that all the characters who fought against autobots will be in this list.
Originally he was but got re worked
and many more
Shockwave was heavily nerfed in the bayverse
No one was AS nerfed AS fricking megatron Dude was atleast TWICE as strong AS Optimus in Part 1 and after that He got nerfed in literally every movie
@@deinVater751 the tf5 megatron is strong he fight all autobots and overpowered prime in 1 hand and if its 1v1 the fight would be megatron tf1 vs prime all over again
@@deinVater751twice is an enormous stretch. He was stronger than prime but not by a lot
@@anthonygomez3915 that fight was the embodiement of disrespect im LA transformers in a 1vs1
Yup! Dude fought Megatron and Optimus at one time and won! So did Skorpinok!
lockdown is not a decepticon, he himself stated that the quarrell between the 2 factions is a waste of time, thus he remains unaffiliated, and is a bounty hunter instead, contracted to hunt down anyone, may it be autobot or decepticon, as well as the dinobots, teracons, predacons, maximals, knights, et
He clearly said in the beginning of the video anyone fighting against the auto bots is on this list lol
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@@toxic6633 bait titles
@@sorrybroo8303Barely, there were like only four non affiliates/non deceptions on the list
He was still a villian tho your missing the point
Shockwave with Driller is SO BADASS!
Him and his driller were defeated quite easily they might as well of been made of paper 📃 I blame the director. And apparently "PARACHUTES" are shockwaves weakness 😂😂
Thanks Michael Bay 👍 for making Shockwave & Megatron the biggest pushovers ever 😢
Megatron is still my favorite. Despite the later movies he's still so badass.
I think sentinel did much better against Optimus Prime than the fallen did.
Yeah but fallen was not Recowered. At his full potential he would destroy everyone he is super strong and has super abilitis.
Optimus also didn't have Jetfire merged with him , he was a 50ft tall scout decepticon working for the Fallen closely , merging with that guy would give you a big ass boost , Sentinel went against a base Optimus
@@davidkosiba624 I thought Optimus fought Sentinel in the third movie? Wouldn’t he have maintained all the upgrades he received before he fought the Fallen in the second movie?
I’m by no means an expert when it comes to Transformers, so I don’t know the answer.
@@kylecollins3755 Yep he fought sentinel in the third one but , im thinking the upgrade from rotf was temporary. i'd like to hope so bc it would make ZERO sense for him to just throw away such a huge advantage. the only thing i noticed was that prime still had the jetpack. Him merging with jetfire gave him a HUGE boost of power considering he's a prime and jetfire was high ranking and was likely able to subdue most autobots before he defected to the autobots, so that's a pretty powerful duo. when it comes to combat skill i think sentinel has the fallen beat bc he was definitely more impressive in battle, but other than that if fallen is at full power then it would be over for anyone who opposed him. i used to think the fallen was the weakest main antagonist bc he was awful in that fight against optimus but i now know WHY he wasn't as impressive as he should have been , he was very old , weakened, and still trying to recover from that assault from the other primes
@@jay-685 The Upgrade Optimus received was indeed temporary. If you look at the end of RoTF when he stands next to the sphinx he's bulkier than he normally is, but by the time of DoTM he apparently lost all that bulk and armor as he's mainly back to his slimmed down configuration.
Sentinel and Megatron are both stronger that Lockdown
Yes they are
How and why
They are, finally some people understand that, thank you
Hard to believe when he was bodied by a heavily damaged prime plus lockdown beat a stronger version of prime whom was more damage resistant
But they boosted lock down up like he was a top villain. His car was so small but he was damn near as tall as prime which made no sense and he almost defeated a powered up version of prime if prime didn't receive aid from Marky mark
i’ve never understood how prime easily beat the fallen and megatron at the same time but then got cooked by sentinel and lockdown later on in the series.
couse of jetfire
Im pretty sure jetfire is his strongest for now. Thats how he was able to beat fallen snd meg
optimus defeat lockdown in the first part didin t you watch the entire movie
@@axedev1789he didn't
My main favorite decepticon apart from Megatron, Shockwave and Blackout. Is Barricade, since he is considered one of the most intelligent transformers within the forces of the decepticon ranks, managing to maintain autobots or even human lives in order to use it for his own advantage in his objectives, or those that Megatron has in mind, of whom he is happy and proud to follow, as are all decepticons. Even due to his short stature, Barricade stands out among the decepticons as one of the deadliest to exist given his abilities to demonstrate during his missions alongside his symbiotic partner Frenzy. He treats the autobots without mercy, regardless of their once allies, oppressively depriving them of their freedom in the firm belief that without Megatron, he and the other decepticons would just be another of those Cybertronians blindly following Optimus Prime.
I'm guessing this was an antagonist list as a number of the monsters listed were indifferent to the Autobot/Decepticon affiliation but hostile nonetheless. I was a little saddened to see Sentinel Prime listed here, but considering the stakes and loss Cybertron usually goes through, I sort of get it. War often leads people down paths of ruin.
Lmfao
I guess thats because most autobots are civilian class cybertronians and are thus weaker than most decepticons majority of which were worker/military class cybertronians.
Berserker reminds me of predator the green gue and the hair and face
I love how 30% of this list aren't even Decepticon .
Ikr
@@FireTigerT3 yea i was like so ma
*mad*
he literally stated in the beginning of the video that its about any tranformers that fight autobots....
@@DankoiKlio But the video is call "Who's the most powerful deception in transformers?".
Unicorn truly is absolute evil
Another person saying "Unicorn"...
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Fr@@shannonkinne3181
Driller being above megaton and sentinel is hilarious 😂
All jokes aside. @DanCo as a long time subscriber it's nice to hear your words come out more fluently. I remember you yourself made a video addressing your speech. I don't know if you slowed things down or have been taking speech classes or the combination of the two but whatever you are doing, us long time subscribers can tell. I've always enjoyed your videos and look forward to watching more. (Side note) It's going to take some getting used to not hearing some of your words get jumbled up 😅but I'll adjust.
Kind of you to read from all 48 wiki pages so we don’t have to 😂
Literally 😂
Brawl should’ve been put in like the top 10.
Also you put Lockdown & Scourge here when they’re not Decepticons.Same goes with Battletrap & Nightbird.
If I’m not wrong, Scourge is obviously a terror con which is a subspecies of a deception so technically he is one. As for lockdown, he is a cybertron in which is the decepticon faction came from. Decepticons are a faction of cybertrons basically. So technically they are but correct me if I’m wrong.
@@zer0serpents106 lockdown doesnt belongs to any faction and scourge is terrorcon, not desepticon, there is a huge difference
@@davidgnjatic6387 I’m pretty sure a terrorcon is a type of decepticon though
We’ll I’m sure he means villains and plus he says it at 0:26
@@colesnitker3964 then video title is wrong
Starscream?
I understand his brute strength isn't up to some of the Leaders he follows yet his burning talent to finish any job is remarkable...
Yh in the first movie he wrecked house during the final battle and even in revenge of the fallen he did well only lost to optimus which yh he was never winning that fight anyway its only when they kill him off in dark of the moon that ruins it coz he dies to sam with one of wheeljacks grenades he should of been killed by optimus
Love these list keep it up 💯I always rewatch 😂
Skurge is by far the strongest, he has the blood of Unicron ( Dark Energon ) running in him
LOL NO,
@@kusihari1425 who's stronger?
Bro scourge got hes ass beaten my a weak toy like optimus
He isn't
@@spiritoffire1615 tf1 megatron would wreck scourge effortlessly , lockdown would subdue him and make him look foolish , sentinel would embarrass scourge , and if the fallen had a chance to gain full power he would make scourge his servant. optimus got humiliated by scourge but that optimus was nowhere near as impressive as bayverse optimus. i think galvatron vs scourge would be closer with scourge taking the win.
I can now understand why Megatron and Prime have always been butting heads in the BayVerse. They quarrel like siblings under the leadership of Sentinel and when differences in ideas shifted the factions shifted as well. Plus, Megatronus being there to twist his mind didn’t help things for both Cybertron or Earth.
Soundwave💪, the most loyal Decepticon
Excellent narration
Shockwave at 11 is criminal
Nah, I disagree with some of the last entries. Sentinel prime is above the fallen. Because “only a prime can defeat the fallen”. So sentinel, being a prime, would be above the fallen. Also, if you disagree with that, Optimus wiped the floor with the fallen, and sentinel wiped the floor with Optimus.
Bruh the only why optimus wiped the floor because of bad writing during that time in 2013 their was a writers strike due to the writers not getting a pay increase plus if you re watch the film u can see how the fallen. Was heavily handicap through the intro and the fight himself how does the fallen use a couple of abilities like telekinesis and teleportation once and never use it again during the fight
1 Optimus wasnt in jet mode vs sentinel 2 if it was full power fallen he could destroy sentinel because his brothers couldnt even beat him 11v1
And they were primes to lol😂
Bad writing aside, that’s the way it is. So what? The fallen lifted a few bricks like once, and teleported like twice(jet fire teleported too, is he more powerful than prime?) according to the fallen himself, only a PRIME can defeat him, and sentinel was a prime, thus COULD defeat him, and should be higher than the fallen. All that prime did with his jet stuff was bring himself up to speed and get close. He could already take megatron no problem in the forest, and if he can do that no extra buff, then so can sentinel.
“Jet mode” you mean Optimus had the extra power of one extra crippled bot? Yeah. And what did the fallen do? He was tearing it off pretty easy for a moment, so I don’t think it did much other than get Optimus back into the fight, and a means to get close to the fallen/megatron.
My favorite Decepticon would be Star Scream I've always found him to be bad ass and potential leader of the decepticons. Especially in the shows he was my fav but i wish the used him more in the movies...
he was infinitely better than megatron in the movies
Nice video
GREAT TRANSFORMER RANKINGS 💪🔥🔥🔥
Lockdown was so cool though
As a person that grew up on Transformers, they totally messed up with the Decepticons. Examples; Combaticons, which includes Onslaught (leader), Brawl, Swindle, Vortex, Blastoff which merged into Bruticus. Terroricons; Hun-Garr(leader), Blot, Sinnertwin, Cutthroat, Rippersnapper, which formed Abominus.
It's crazy how big the plot hole of scourge absolutely whooping prime in the beginning of RotB and then getting crapped on at the end is. I still think he is the most powerful just due to that first scene
Super duper awesome.
Nitro Zeus was put a bit to low considering he was next in line at one point of mega Tron was to die
The infernacons were defeated with no effort from prime. Like why even have them in the movie? In TF5 Megatron was hiding under a bridge afraid 😨 of humans, what a disappointment 😞
i think it was kinda smart being covert considering the humans were more capable of taking out autobots/decepticons and the fact that they were being hunted on sight. take canopy for example , he was killed extremely fast. but if you think about it bumblebee had the balls to fight out in the open so maybe megs was being a coward after all😂🤔
@jay - Megatron ruled over Cybertron for many years but fears humans & human technology
@@Vincente_Guerrero very sad and embarrassing when you think about it🤣
Scourge’s face looks like the decepticon logo
I like how he talks about them being all aware and holding themselves in battle. Meanwhile a clip plays of them getting oblitetated by autobots😂😂
The Seven (The Boys) vs The Guardians of the Galaxy (MCU)
Saitama (One Punch Man) vs Omni-Man (Invincible)
Optimus Prime (Bayverse) vs Wonder Women (DCEU)
Megatron killed one Prime, and almost killed another. He was weaker in ROTF and DOTM but I think he'd still have Shockwave beat. It'd be close but Megs would kill him brutally for betraying him if that were the case
He wasnt weaker he just wasnt the main villain thats why he seemed weaker
Shockwave has committed some of the most gruesome crimes in the entire universe and has done things that even Megatron thought was overkill
"sees both sides as squabbling children" got me💀
love this! also rise of the beasts was the best transformers movie :)
1. Fallen, 2. Galvatron, 3. Megatron, 4. Lockdown, 5. Schorge, 6. Devastator, 7. Starsscreem, 8. Soundwave, 9. Brawl, 10. Cyclonus, 11. Baricade, 12. Bounechrusher.
Lockdown???
@@_MECHA_ remember lockdown isn’t a decepticon
you definitely just started naming random decepticons towards the end of your list. Shockwave is more powerful that all of the ones you put past 5, and can also beat Megatron. Which is why even Megatron fears him. Also no Quintessa? And Lockdown isn't even a Decepticon
Shockwave?
Shockwave???
Optimus Prime got hella bodies. 😂
y was sentinel a deception and and Autobot at the same time
i really wish they make megatron as scary as scourge in the future movies. or even scarier
First movie megatron was built different
he drink the spark of jazz that why he was stronger
People sleep on the fallen, he was on par with 6 other primes that are a lot stronger than the new primes and he also after being in a weaker state fought the most powerful version of optimus while sentinal fought base prime and lockdown who got beat by him a lot of times and also fallen is A LOT bigger and can teleport and he had telekinesis powers too and he was very powerful
i just want more scourge and lockdown vibe decepticons, megatron too ofc!
I’d say if megatron and scourge were a bit higher it’s perfect
Hawkeye vs Xenomorph please!
I’m surprised Lockdown and Scourge weren’t higher on the list. Considering how many Autobots Lockdown has taken down and Scourge almost getting rid of Bee, Prime, and Mirage in one movie.
Lockdown isnt even decepticon
@@kristianzigo2299”ever bot that fights the auto bots are on this list”
@@pterodactyl662exactly
I don’t think lockdown and scourge were decepticon. Lockdown was the bounty hunter and scourge and his gang were terracons or however you spell it but they were servants of unicron
Now we know how some parts of the pyramid got torn down
Please do cosmic armor Superman vs Lucifer Morningstar. Y’all please like my comment so he notices. :)
Even if Devastator is gigantic, Scourge is stronger still though. The ranking system of some is mistakened
How is this films graphic this good after so many years ?
Shockwave at number 11 is just…….
Suggestions of the Day
Pacific Rim Jagers vs Deceptions(Bayverse)
(Bayverse) Aubobots vs Pacific Rim Kaiju
(DCEU) Doomsday vs (Bayverse) Lockdown
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Mario and Luigi (with the star) vs (MCU) Kang
Spiderman 2099 (Spider-verse)
vs Venom, Riot and Carnage(Sonyverse)
(MCU) Hulk vs (Mario movie) Donkey Kong (with powerups)
Who wins and why?
why tf would doomsday go against lockdown
Did you consider the possibility of those two roles being reversed?
Doomsday destroys Lockdown in 3 seconds.
My List:
1. Unicron
2. Scourge
3. Quintessa
4. Megatron (The Last Night)
5. Lockdown
6. Shockwave
7. Sentinel
8. The Fallen
9. Soundwave
10. Starscream
Scourge is a joke. Very easy to kill
He beat Optimus Prime and Primal, Bumblebee, Apelinq and Airazor. Also, it literally took the Autobots and Maximals to beat him, you idiot.
Hell nah
Fallen megatron and sentinel would destroy scourge
Final figh was big disappointment when Scourge dead like that. Battletrap and Nightwing was total losers. Decepticons on TF123 can put a better fight.
What about jetfire? My all time favourite decepticon, that can knocked up a group of decepticon in his old age
Shockwave was done dirty in the Bayverse, yet he still manages to be and absolute MENACE.
I firmly believe that scourge is more powerful than Megatron
Bro scourge got Betan by a weak optimus
Maybe stronger than TF2 and TF3 Megatron, No way Scourge could beat TF1 or Knight Megatron.
@@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667no hate but y not
Scourge in rotb is 18 feet, Megatron in bay is 33 feet. Megatron wins easy😂
@@General_MacArthur optimus wasnt weak didnt you watch the previous movie before saying stupidity
Optimus and Bumblebee take out Quintessa rather easily though surprise attack
Scourge takes out both at the same time though maybe Optimus was nerfed in ROTB
Scourge reminds me of younger version of DOTM Megatron (even vehicle modes are similiar)...
I like how almost every deception you showed was getting their ass kicked while you were talking about how strong they are lol
Unicron is probably gonna have cyclonus come back and finish the job
or probally galvatron if they plan to go g1 once again
galvatron truly needs to be in one of the new movies the bayverse was a joke
He suck the building with the body of scourge so he will return:when a herald of unicron do quite good the job unicron will creat him again like in the comics (universe ramjet)
To me top 5 strongest
1 unicron
2 queentessa
3 fallen 4
4 megatron tf1/tf5
5 sentinel
Imagine all of these guys were all together and ganged up against the autobots 😲😨
Was interested in Nitro Zeus, thought I'd Google him, see what he transforms into, took me to the Transformers Wiki... seems you did too :P
you guys notice prime always needs help to win? He NEVER wins his fights without backup (excluding the forest fight) and always has unfair advantages.
MEGATRON(1st movie) - ABSOLUTELY WRECKED optimus. prime had help from the air force teaming up on megatron to kill him and only won bc of sam disposing the energy of the allspark into megatron's spark , overloading him.
THE FALLEN/MEGATRON - megatron got much weaker in rotf and nerfed and that forest fight proves it. also the beating he put on optimus from the 1st movie proves it also. the fallen wasn't at full power and didn't even fully recover AND optimus combined with jetfire to gain additional power in the final battle. also i believe the allspark may have caused megatron to be significantly weaker and he had parts of decepticon scrapper. poor scrapper. "no sacrifice no victory"🤣but in this case (sacrifice = no victory)
SENTINEL PRIME - actually WON his fight 1 on 1 and beat optimus , he even solo'd the autobots and still held his own , optimus got saved by megatron
LOCKDOWN - actually subdued optimus 1 on 1, not to mention yet again... optimus had backup🙄 everyone loves to say " prime was distracted ". what about the beginning of the fight , who was winning? LOCKDOWN. it was 5v1 and even bee got taken out of action. lockdown was the most impressive antagonist imo
QUINTESSA - she was clearly a very powerful sorceress and could have killed prime whenever she wanted but bee shot her from behind , proving my point.
SPOILER BELOW🫣🫣😬IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RISE OF THE BEASTS
SCOURGE - embarrased rotb version of optimus. and you wanna know something else? prime had backup YET AGAIN and scourge isn't even a prime yet still humiliated him
also , shatter is the only decepticon we ever saw in combat that was lower ranking and subdued bumblebee. although she didn't win in the end.
Yes I noticed that but I think on lock down he wouldn't happend if he dint save cade the reason why he lost on lockdow is he save cade he got distracted and we see that the ly fighting = on lock down he even knock down lockdown in a few second and see cade is in danger while lockdown is down
@@Resh404_Reaper yeah i wouldv'e preffered to see the rest of the fight without a distraction and also optimus being pinned against the wall. i think the writers screwed up there big time 100%. i honestly think it couldv'e went either way
Dude Megatron destroy Optimus in first movie bcz Optimus protect human's 😀 and never want to hurt him! Watch the movie again pls 😀
@@Pavel.Balevski how he never hurt him when he killed in DOTM(not saying Optimus wasnt holding back) and even then lockdown whooped Optimus and wasnt going to kill Optimus 😂
Why does this comment have so many likes
Yeah, one like
Do Unicron vs Galactus
tbh I thought shockwave at first and I still haven't seen the 6th movie yet but from whatI saw in the trailer. The leader of the terracons was the only one that had enough power to stab bumblebee from what it looked like so I think the leader of the terracons
Up till now I'm curious about Lockdown and Scourge. Who's stronger?
Tell me you dont know transformers lore without telling me. Puts tercons on a top decepticon video and lockdown.
In the movies, Megatron is made of the same material as a Nerf dart. 😂
Where are you getting these bios?
13:59 I wonder if berserker is based off of the berserker predator
Damn bonecrusher was done dirty
Putting brawl at 35 is insaine
Suggestion: Christy Fimple (Small Soldiers) vs Mister Chuckle Teeth (X-Files)
Brawl should have been higher on that list. He is a devastator unit. He is the decepticon version of the juggernaut. Heavily armoured and armed as we clearly see. His battalion are always sent first into battle just jumping into the middle of autobot defenses and just completely blowing everything up.
what is the song name in the first few seconds of the video
Lockdown forever favorite
KSI really making the money out here, first the Sidemen, then Prime, now Decepticons.
any idea what all the badges were on scourge?
I love how one of the characters in your thumbnail isnt even a Decepticon.
My list
1. Unicorn
2. The fallen
3. Megatron
4. Lockdown
5. Sentinel
6. Quintessa
when i was young i had a berserker action figure
“The fallen is immensely powerful, despite what the majority of the Transformers community believes.” Is what he should have said when describing about the fallens true power
I just want to see my boi PREDAKING make an appearance and shut everything down 💪🏾😂. He could beat everyone under the sun including Optimus. Depending on plot.
I was hoping my boy Shockwave cracked top 10 on this list.. atleast 9th or 10th. 😔
How would you rank the human characters?
So is this a list for decepticons or just any antagonists? Am confused
Soundwave and Shockwave are both lower than they should be imo. Tho I may just be biased towards soundwave cuz he's my favorite Decepticon, Shockwave is definitely several places too low
I love how everyone says Megatron got weaker lol. He was only weak in Dark Side Of The Moon and the only reason Megatron was owning Optimus throwing him around in Tf1 was due to Optimus had to avoid hurting humans and not 1 Autobot hurt any humans. Its funny how known one mentions in Tf2 how Optimus was back handing and punching Megatron sending him flying in the woods yet alone taking on 3 Decepticons at once and winning until Megatron stabbed him through the back. Optimus killing Megatron with 1 arm was insane! Especially after Megatron wrecking Sential Prime. Optimus was even beating Galvertron and in Tf1 he never got to use his sword or battle axe. Optimus killed Scourge who was given infinte power by 1 of there gods yet people use Tf1 as an excuse that Megatron got weaker after that. He didn't seem weak in all the other movies besides Dark Side Of The Moon.
i'll be honest. i think the insecticons should have been higher. for one, no they aren't powerful by means of brute force. however, in warfare, if we have an enemy that can sneak its way into your body, assume control over your body, and make you fight on their behalf, or self destruct, then by all means that in itself is probably very powerful. especially if they infest a powerful host.