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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
  • While Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes was relatively short-lived, there’s a lot more to the show than meets the eye. In this video (I believe the first of its kind on EMH?) I go into some of the mysteries, details, and theories surrounding EMH. How deep does the iceberg go?
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:54 The Surface
    5:55 Shallow Waters
    11:46 Finding Nemo Level
    15:50 The Deep
    19:43 Outro
    Yost's notes on Season 3 Plans:
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    Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes sees comic-book superheroes -- including Hulk, Iron Man and Thor -- join forces to become the Avengers as they fight villains who have escaped from the Vault, the Cube, the Big House and the Raft. Among the villains the Avengers battle are Red Skull, Grim Reaper, Wonder Man and Cobra.
    #marvel #avengers #savetheyostverse

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  • @juliiju0484
    @juliiju0484 2 роки тому +112

    lol i didn't expect my nick fury patch comparison to show up! This was a very entertaining video, so I will leave some curiosities that I have noticed as a fan, mostly related to the yostverse:
    -although in the Marvel wiki and even Wikipedia the Emh universe and several other Marvel animated properties are recognized as "earth 8096", this has not yet been confirmed and if I'm not mistaken it was named by the wiki. What is certain is that those projects were planned to be connected and constantly referenced, but they also have several continuity errors. Joshua fine has said that it is left to the interpretation of each one how the continuity of the universe would be
    -In Spectacular spiderman there are very few references to the main Marvel, and one of them is the vault, a prison for Marvel supervillains, but this version of the vault is very different from that of Avengers earths migthy's heroes, which makes it quite difficult to connect the series
    -If we were to follow the continuity of earth 8096, there would be a couple of characters that technically appeared more than heroes like iron man or captain america. While this includes great fighters like Thor, Hulk, and Wolverine, it also includes supporting characters and enemies of Thor, even ones with supporting roles like Valkyrie. Deeper, a character with 3 appearances is professor thorton, who along with weapon x have a cameo in Emh, which is quite surprising. I mean, Nick Fury has fewer appearances than PROFESSOR THORTON! who is that guy?
    -Something that surprises me that it hasn't been brought up is that in season two, Maria hill mentions a superhuman registration act, which is commonly recognized as being what caused the civil war in the marvel universe. Another little mentioned topic regarding the civil war in this universe is that in wolverine and the X-men a new version of the villain nitro appears who is a mutant, and that in the comics he caused a massacre, which led to the creation of the aforementioned superhuman registration act, and is also known for killing Captain Marvel, but that's beating around the bush. I Enjoy the video a lot and I hope I can help contribute to the iceberg

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +10

      Great details! Pinning this!

    • @juliiju0484
      @juliiju0484 2 роки тому +9

      @@PillarofGarbage Thanks! I'll see if I can get more to enlarge the iceberg in the event

    • @AdmiralDevil
      @AdmiralDevil 2 роки тому +1

      @@PillarofGarbage it always surprised me hulk was able to stagger dook and In my personal cannon aa is a sequel of emh

    • @juliiju0484
      @juliiju0484 Рік тому

      @Brave165 yes

  • @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6
    @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6 2 роки тому +470

    Fun fact: EMH has it's own earth number Earth-8096, and it canonically shares the same universe as Wolverine and the X-men, and the tv movie Hulk vs.

    • @mandotory6728
      @mandotory6728 2 роки тому +78

      Yup, Thor : Tales of Asgard is also canonically included in that earth by the way

    • @jalontillmon2807
      @jalontillmon2807 2 роки тому +18

      Finally someone get it

    • @kyleyuen245
      @kyleyuen245 2 роки тому +32

      HULK VS !? I haven't thought of that in forever

    • @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6
      @medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6 2 роки тому +27

      @Dagupan Ghyle Well the Hulk Vs Wolverine segment takes place before Earth Mightiest heroes. While Hulk vs Thor takes place after.

    • @jalontillmon2807
      @jalontillmon2807 2 роки тому +5

      @@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6 That is true

  • @thelegophoenix5183
    @thelegophoenix5183 2 роки тому +78

    One of my theories is that Cap is in fact the one responsible for ruining Kang’s timeline. Kang specifically says that he traced the origin of the problem to Captain America. Now, while Cap does exist outside his original time he didn’t time travel. He just waited it out while on ice. This alone shouldn’t affect the timeline at all, however Cap does interact with something that might have. The Cosmic Cube. During the episode where hydra and AIM fought each other over the cube, iron man scans the ship it’s on and shorts out his suit. This alone shows that the cube is powerful. AIM created an item they believe could rewrite reality itself. At the end of the fight Cap and Struker race for the cube and both appear to touch it at the same time, but nothing happens. Struker and the Avengers simply believe that the cube didn’t work. At the very end of the episode the team asked Cap if he could change the world, how would he do it. Cap being modest says that taking down hydra once and for all was enough for him. But he’s lying. Cap has one regret that he wished he could fix. Bucky dying, and the very last scene is the rocket explosion that killed Bucky. However if you watch close enough you see that there is a blue flash during the explosion. Then boom Bucky survives, and becomes the winter soldier. But Kang has traced the time anomaly to that moment. Cap inadvertently disrupted the timeline saving Bucky when he grabbed the cube. Kang was right about it being Cap’s fault the whole time.

    • @supercard9418
      @supercard9418 10 місяців тому

      Awesome

    • @owlbert2020
      @owlbert2020 10 місяців тому +5

      I always thought that Cal brought Bucky back there. It just made sense to me

    • @armaniel667
      @armaniel667 9 місяців тому +4

      @@owlbert2020 Same. Show quite strongly hinted that, as described in phoenix's comment; not exactly a conspiracy theory. While it would be awesome to see a connection between Bucky and Kang, show made a bit anticlimactic resolution that Cap's fault was to save Black Panther from blowing up Kree ship.

    • @flamingphoenix1425
      @flamingphoenix1425 2 місяці тому +2

      Cool theory, but I disagree. Kang mentions Earth is ravaged by the Kree-Skrull War. Who was responsible for almost making the war worse when the Kree came to Earth? Skrull Captain America.

    • @darksev.6468
      @darksev.6468 2 місяці тому

      @@flamingphoenix1425 That's a separate issue from the timeline disruption.

  • @davidgusquiloor2665
    @davidgusquiloor2665 2 роки тому +62

    I don't believe Doom was a Skrull. If only because the episode where he discovers the secret invasion before it happened shows he is competent enought to not be replaced.

  • @_somerandomguyontheinternet_
    @_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 2 роки тому +135

    18:13 When Mar-Vell is trying to get the Supreme Intelligence to spare the Avengers in Live Kree or Die, he says that Wasp’s “genetics were modified though exposure to an unknown particle.”
    I’d say that this likely rules her out as being a mutant, but I’d also say that it’s *highly* unlikely Hank gave the powers to her on purpose. After all, prior to joining the Avengers, Hank mainly uses his suit and size-changing tech to advance his scientific research. He shrinks his lab, communicates with ants, and studies them. He resorts to combat only if need be, like when Claue storms his lab. So, pacifist that he is, why would he give Wasp stinger blasts? He wouldn’t.
    My best guess is that she got her powers - in true comic book fashion - in an experiment gone wrong. Maybe Hank was working on something and Janet walked in at the wrong time, or she was helping him, or something. I simply find it much easier to believe than Hank intentionally giving her combat-oriented powers.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +35

      This is pretty likely to be the truth - but I’d be lying if I said part of me didn’t still want the mutant theory to be true :D

    • @_somerandomguyontheinternet_
      @_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@PillarofGarbage that would be fun.

    • @R0-83-RT
      @R0-83-RT 2 роки тому +15

      Perhaps not a mutant, but maybe mutated similar to Deadpool or Spider-Man. It even aligned with what Mar-Vell said about Janet's genetics being altered.

    • @saajiddaya2152
      @saajiddaya2152 2 роки тому +1

      @@PillarofGarbage new video, loki

    • @zarimanangel
      @zarimanangel 2 роки тому +13

      @@PillarofGarbage Actually its likely a similar explanation to the comics. Where enough exposure to pym particles allows the body to produce its own. As for the stingers, using them to help work on wiring for his old prison

  • @nigelbagguley7606
    @nigelbagguley7606 2 роки тому +73

    Doom supplying Stark with the"skrull detector" chip wasn't so much "outsourcing" as Doom considering the fight beneath him,if others could get it done.The real ommition was Doom's non-appearance in the fight against Galactus,if not along side EMH ,then trying to steal the power cosmic.

  • @hendrickeldragonquepierdee8146
    @hendrickeldragonquepierdee8146 2 роки тому +70

    Other thing that not many people know are the references to the DCAU. The fight with the Masters of Evil, the way Iron Man defeated the Purple Man, Captain America going to the barber shop with Nick Fury and the final battle against Galactus share some big similarities to some episodes of JL/JLU

    • @koushikraja331
      @koushikraja331 2 роки тому +21

      I love how the DCAU kinda respected and referenced the MU while the MU kinda did likewise. Like, the episode with aquaman, dr fate and grundy was so reminiscent of the classic defenders lineup with namor, dr strange and hulk. sure amazo was the silver surfer equivalent-and probably the best adaptation of silver surfer we might have gotten, animation or live action wise-and even he hung around with that crowd.

    • @lexofpower2822
      @lexofpower2822 2 роки тому +3

      @@koushikraja331 I actually heard that the blue print for Amazo in the show was the Super Adaptoid. That was how they convinced Bruce Timm to do Amazo in the show.

  • @SSJofZ
    @SSJofZ 2 роки тому +65

    EMH was a gift to humanity,that will always be remembered

  • @MTV2O2O
    @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому +41

    4:17 Speaking if She-Hulk, she’s canon to EMH, or at least the EMH comics, where MODOC finds a way to switch Hawkeye and Iron Man’s minds, and planned to do the same to himself and more powerful superheroes, including She-Hulk (and he had a creepy expression when he said so)

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 2 роки тому +6

      He's MODOC, he always has a creepy expression

    • @MTV2O2O
      @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому +7

      @@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Should have been more specific- I mean a *perverted* look on his face.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 2 роки тому +2

      @@MTV2O2O 😂 got it.

  • @mandotory6728
    @mandotory6728 2 роки тому +39

    Man, I really can’t thank you enough for all of this. The number of videos you did on EMH and the YostVerse, and the work you put into them, it really makes a difference. You’re getting thousands of views on so many of them. It’s just great, so thanks a lot.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +6

      Happy to help!

    • @juliiju0484
      @juliiju0484 2 роки тому +5

      I imagine what it will be like for a new viewer to discover all this, whether they have seen some yostverse project in their childhood or see it from afar, like me and the DCAU

  • @ionryful
    @ionryful Рік тому +12

    16:02 A remnant of that idea still exists in AA. In the episode that focused on Molecule Man, Hawkeye has a flashback but it's the episode from EMH. This possibly makes AA an alternate timeline to EMH.

    • @MelloMike0
      @MelloMike0 Рік тому +6

      I’m really surprised this wasn’t included. I immediately remembered that episode. Confused the hell out of me as a kid.

  • @mageeaaron2624
    @mageeaaron2624 2 роки тому +25

    15:15 Yeah, I honestly don't think a Skrull was disguised as Doom. Mostly because of the ending of the first episode in season 2, where Doom figured out The Invisible Woman was replaced by a Skrull. Plus, Earth's Mightest Heroes always respects the comic book adaption of the characters.

    • @Enchie
      @Enchie 2 роки тому +7

      And he gave Tony the Skrull finding chip.

  • @brannon811
    @brannon811 2 роки тому +26

    Skrulls not getting the drop on Doom like that, no chance

  • @RECKLESS_JA_166
    @RECKLESS_JA_166 2 роки тому +41

    Thank you for covering the emh iceberg I thought it was an interesting topic to discuss, Plus I also like how they combined zemo and his father this was a cool take tbh, Also I appreciate the time you put in making your videos 🙂

    • @MTV2O2O
      @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому +6

      Honestly the whole “sins of the father” thing is kinda overdone, I actually prefer the amalgam Zemo over the comic iterations.

    • @RECKLESS_JA_166
      @RECKLESS_JA_166 2 роки тому +5

      @@MTV2O2O that's cool too

    • @MTV2O2O
      @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому +5

      @@RECKLESS_JA_166 Amalgam Zemo = EMH Zemo

    • @RECKLESS_JA_166
      @RECKLESS_JA_166 2 роки тому +2

      @@MTV2O2O 👍

  • @freduruk6623
    @freduruk6623 Рік тому +7

    I think it'd be neat if Wasp denied being a mutant to Magneto out of some kind of internalized mutant-phobia, of the kind shown by Liz Allen from the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. They could definitely do something cool with that thread, especially if season 3 was going to feature the X-Men in a major way.

    • @Tylerisawesome2
      @Tylerisawesome2 Рік тому +2

      Yeah before liz turned out to be a mutant herself and the ultimate version of firestar and daughter of the blob

  • @johnchristopher5733
    @johnchristopher5733 11 місяців тому +3

    I guess I assumed that, from writer's standpoint, Wasp gets different powers to create a greater array of powers on the team, and from a story standpoint, Pym just wasn't as interested in personal flight (also he could pilot flying ants no problem). In the context of the cartoon, Hank doesn't really want to engage the villains in fisticuffs, but Janet does, so it makes sense that he would outfit her with the powers necessary to defend herself and present a threat to the villains.

  • @ianfyfield6292
    @ianfyfield6292 2 роки тому +11

    More like finding ZEMO level, amrite.
    I love the idea that Yost brought in surtur because he felt bad about the cliffhanger

  • @R0-83-RT
    @R0-83-RT 2 роки тому +17

    Before watching I just want to acknowledge I only recently went into EMH, and it is thanks to you and UA-camrs like you that got me into the series. I appreciate it, it was a good watch.

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1
    @GamerSlyRatchet1 2 роки тому +11

    Cool that you mentioned the comics. Some of them actually solve mini-cliffhangers the show set-up (like the fate of Karnilla, Grey Gargoyle, and I think Ravonna) and it feels like the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver issue was meant to be an episode of season 3.

  • @dairesdepths
    @dairesdepths 2 роки тому +17

    Hope it ain't skrull doom, would undercut how excellent his appearance is.
    Furys eyepatch could have to do with all those fury body doubles he's had but it's probably just an error

  • @thrallgames
    @thrallgames 2 роки тому +14

    Wasn't there a line in EMH where she's annoyed at Hank and says that none of his shrinking stuff would have been possible without her? I took that as him studying her abilities is what led to his discovery of the Pym Particles.

    • @MTV2O2O
      @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому +9

      Janet’s not a mutant, she said that none of Hank’s research and his GRANT would have been possible without the financial backup that Janet gave him, as she is rich.

    • @lordbendtner6404
      @lordbendtner6404 2 роки тому +2

      @@MTV2O2O yeah it always been daddy van dyke support pym

    • @MTV2O2O
      @MTV2O2O 2 роки тому

      @@lordbendtner6404 You mean Van DYNE?

    • @lordbendtner6404
      @lordbendtner6404 2 роки тому +1

      @@MTV2O2O yeah
      I always thought it was van dijk like the football player Virgil van dijk

    • @jouskehigaskita8835
      @jouskehigaskita8835 2 роки тому +1

      @@MTV2O2O she is in some versions

  • @devisrikadem8781
    @devisrikadem8781 2 роки тому +9

    Earth's mightiest heroes is like spectacular spider-man.Spectacular spider-man only lasted for two seasons but came in pretty excellent.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +2

      Indeed - there’s even a video on my channel specifically about how SSM made the most of its short run!

  • @sbotstudios
    @sbotstudios 2 роки тому +10

    If you are looking for another series to make a videos on, you should make a video on Young Justice. Every scene has a timestamp, and the continuity is really good. It also has a comics series that directly ties in. It is also a series that a studio gave a revival to. One of the writers is Greg Weisman who also worked on Spectacular Spider-Man

  • @milesarmstrong2990
    @milesarmstrong2990 2 роки тому +5

    13:05 Wow that is a deep Marvel cut... having Crystar the Crystal Warrior (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saga_of_Crystar) fighting along side Planet Hulk!

  • @mateogarciagonzalez534
    @mateogarciagonzalez534 2 роки тому +4

    There's a document featuring a revamped version of the latter half of EMH's season 2 made by an user named brodiemarschall. He's not an ex staff member from the EMH crew (As far as I know) but the stuff he details in that document is pretty interesting to read and wonder what it could have been

  • @jesuscuellar3624
    @jesuscuellar3624 2 роки тому +26

    I personally really like the idea of the Wasp being a mutant. I find the concept to be an interesting and fun aspect to her character and besides, since in EMH we didn't got to have Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver join the team during the first two seasons, I like the idea of the Wasp as the first mutant Avenger.
    One thing about the Avengers in the comic books is that, for them to be the biggest superhero team which rooster continually changes to add heroes of all places and avenues in the Marvel universe, the truth is that in retrospective, they never had the strongest representation of mutants among their ranks (by this I am not saying there hasn't been; yes, there's been mutants before, true. Heck, even Beast has been an Avenger, but let's be honest, the impact of these has never been as significant as it should be). Thus, at least in my eyes, having the Wasp, a founding member and chairman of the team, be a mutant is a great way to reassert the team's representation of mutants. Also, considering the public opinion of mutants in the Yostverse based on the events of Wolverine and the X-Men, the Wasp could be a very important advocate for mutant rights that could seriously turn around the social climate.
    Hell, I even get chills right now just thinking of a hypothetical scene of the Wasp coming out publicly as a mutant, maybe to show support of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver joining the team.
    "You got a problem with mutants joining the team? Breaking news, everybody. I, a founding member of the Avengers, am a mutant. None ever had a problem with me before, surely you ain't having one now, right?"

    • @danielboyle1647
      @danielboyle1647 2 роки тому +6

      The thing that I would counter with on the wasp being a mutant argument is that Hank actually gives himself stings after a bit, as well as the ability to fly. He does this when he becomes yellow jacket. He probably found a more affective way of flight without the need for wing either after Wasp got her powers or after he went crazy. If it was after wasp got her's there is a chance that he offered it to her and she refused thinking the wings looked better and did the job anyway.
      I think people forget about the yellow jacket stingers because he uses his gun most of the time during that his time in the show

    • @robinjameson4261
      @robinjameson4261 Рік тому

      You could say that there aren't many mutants on the avengers. Then again you could also say there aren't any non mutants on the X-Men roads do go both ways.

  • @ComicGuy2004
    @ComicGuy2004 2 роки тому +13

    If you have the time, can you please do a top 10 best/worst episodes of EMH, please?

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +9

      Perhaps I will save this idea to promote the next #savetheyostverse trend event?

    • @ComicGuy2004
      @ComicGuy2004 2 роки тому +3

      @@PillarofGarbage Ok 👍🏻

    • @lordbendtner6404
      @lordbendtner6404 2 роки тому +1

      I don’t think emh have a bad episode

    • @ComicGuy2004
      @ComicGuy2004 2 роки тому

      @@lordbendtner6404 I mean like storywise.

  • @Truthisscarierthanfiction
    @Truthisscarierthanfiction 2 роки тому +4

    16:35 I've always wondered about that quote, thanks for helping to clear that up

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power 2 роки тому +16

    Doom being a Skrull is stupid.

  • @SAS-jj8yh
    @SAS-jj8yh 2 роки тому +3

    Ultron doing the t-pose is iconic now

  • @theprofessionalnftvendor7611
    @theprofessionalnftvendor7611 2 роки тому +6

    Should have named "finding Zemo level" lmao

  • @Mirrorcomics24
    @Mirrorcomics24 2 роки тому +9

    Fir two season shows emh and spectacular Spider-Man had a lot of depth

  • @CHADCONTEXT
    @CHADCONTEXT 2 роки тому +10

    This is indeed Earth's Mightiest Iceberg

  • @KnowYourMarvelNews
    @KnowYourMarvelNews 2 роки тому +4

    A small tidbit on AA originally being an EMH sequel: S1 E8 of AA there is a flashback of entirely new footage of The Avengers fighting Molecule Man and they have their EMH design and art style

  • @diaryofarobot
    @diaryofarobot Рік тому +1

    PSA Avengers Assemble and Ultimate Spiderman are likely a part of Yostverse because, if I recall correctly, in an episode of Avengers Assemble(Molecule Kid one) they run a flashback which shows the avengers dealing with Molecule Man but they looked like their EMH variants instead of the Avengers Assemble ones. As for Ultimate Spiderman, it is linked with Avengers Assemble so indirectly it's also part of Yostverse

  • @carlinc.christensen3478
    @carlinc.christensen3478 2 роки тому +3

    Another thoughtful video about EMH!! I just finished rewatching this show again and I have got to say it'd be awesome to learn if Wasp was a mutant. She's already my favorite character it'd be great to see that drama play out between the Avengers and the Mutant Response Division if they even went that route.
    I also didn't know that Wasp's outfit was completely unique in this show! So awesome to learn!
    On Dr. Doom and the skull: I thought that he was a skrull until I watched your video and paid more attention to the episode... And you're right, Dr. Doom isn't a skrull, the tech he gives Tony works to reveal the skrull's true form on Capital Hill. But because we never see the skrull tamper with Tony's suit it's easy to assume that the virus came from Doom, but it didn't. To clear up this confusion it would've been nice to see Skrull Cap tamper with Tony's suit before the team split up. But that's just my thoughts.
    Thank You for such great videos!!
    Hope you get better soon!
    Keep up this amazing work!!

  • @OrientalBales
    @OrientalBales 8 місяців тому +1

    Fun fact: One of the scrapped concepts for EMH would be Hulk leading a team of Hulks. This would later be used in Agents of SMASH

  • @ItsaLaz
    @ItsaLaz 2 роки тому +5

    Fury's eyepatch switched because he's from the Mirror Universe.
    *cough*

  • @theodorerigopoulos6509
    @theodorerigopoulos6509 2 роки тому +2

    That was insightful. Thank you for the trivia and the analysis. Good job as always!!!

  • @sbotstudios
    @sbotstudios 2 роки тому +8

    How did I not notice Fury’s design change.

  • @lamelev
    @lamelev 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know if this is a false memory or something, but I vividly remember watching a clip of EMH with the Josh Keaton Spider-Man on UA-cam when I was younger.

  • @phenomenal8196
    @phenomenal8196 2 роки тому +2

    One thing about AA possibly being a sequel Is where in the episode molecule man in season 1 we see a flash back to when the avengers first fought him. The flash back is shown in EMH art style completely, it’s very obvious there, but there are errors.

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 2 роки тому +4

    I am still annoyed that they replaced the Keaton audio with Drake's. And even to this day, they refuse to allow Keaton to voice Spider-man. Do they think if they do they would have to pay Sony or something? Ridiculous.

  • @oliveragag8576
    @oliveragag8576 29 днів тому +1

    I like the idea of Wasp being a mutant. Especially since she'd be a mutant not directly tied to the X-Men or their enemies. Having mutants that don't tie into the X-Men just makes the world feel much bigger, since it makes sense that not all mutants would be involved with them and many would become independant superheroes.

  • @jamesmorgan1886
    @jamesmorgan1886 Рік тому +2

    If you just watch the first episode of AA its specifically about reforming the Avengers to deal with a threat after being broken up for a while

  • @bergorreynisson9520
    @bergorreynisson9520 2 роки тому +1

    You forgot to put the link to the episode synopsis in the description. Btw love the EMH love, keep it coming :)

  • @theserpent8667
    @theserpent8667 2 роки тому +7

    This was actually quite interesting.

  • @peekochoo5718
    @peekochoo5718 2 роки тому +2

    I love iceberg videos and love your content. Thanks for doing this!

  • @henrybelman7424
    @henrybelman7424 2 роки тому +7

    I still don't want a united yost verse unless they reveal that the timeline of W&Xmen is the one where Kang won and the avengers didn't form, and maybe also the hulk verses timeline

  • @ANW115
    @ANW115 2 роки тому +3

    Loved this! 😁

  • @nikkibrowning4546
    @nikkibrowning4546 2 роки тому +3

    I doubt that the Scrulls replaced Dr Doom, but I do believe the Dr Doom that gave the chip to Tony was a Scrull.
    It would have been a pretty safe gambit on their part: Tony is not going to call up Viktor and check if he actually dropped in on him.

  • @KingCandyGames
    @KingCandyGames 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m one episode of avengers assemble season one, where at the beginning where black widow and Hawkeye are chasing down a teen with a like a powerful wand or something, there is a scene that is using the emh animation style

  • @mishmashmedley
    @mishmashmedley 9 місяців тому +1

    considering how often animation cells are re-used, including being reversed, it's no surprise Fury's eye patch got switched at least once

  • @la3g462
    @la3g462 2 роки тому +3

    GI Joe has a helicopter pilot named Wild Bill that flies the dragonfly helicopter. This is the same helicopter pilot that works for Ross.

  • @kidflashjnpr6905
    @kidflashjnpr6905 2 роки тому +1

    Your channel is...my favorite. At this point, your channel's probably my favorite on UA-cam

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +1

      I’m flattered!

    • @kidflashjnpr6905
      @kidflashjnpr6905 2 роки тому

      @@PillarofGarbage You never fail to impress, dude! Always look forward to your uploads

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 2 роки тому +3

    YOU FORGOT A PRETTY FUN ONE
    *THIS WAS THE FIRST SHOW WERE IRON MAN DOESN'T HAVE BLUE EYES, INSTEAD HIS IRIS IS ORANGE*

  • @jec15
    @jec15 2 роки тому +3

    I’m starting to think it might be too late, but #savetheyostverse
    Good job on this

  • @ninetalesboiree9779
    @ninetalesboiree9779 2 роки тому +1

    There was also some Easter eggs cause in one off the episodes that focused on antman and wasp there was a taxi driver reading a news paper with a Easter egg to punisher and man thing

  • @TreFKennedy
    @TreFKennedy 2 роки тому

    You’ve made me a fan of EMH universe , your video essays are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @mageeaaron2624
    @mageeaaron2624 2 роки тому +2

    This was great!!!!

  • @williamwatson4354
    @williamwatson4354 2 роки тому +2

    I must say, I loved EMH but couldn't get through a single episode of AA. It just couldn't hold my interest. As for the Jan, she my favorite character, and she'll always remain my Wasp.

  • @METZUZ12
    @METZUZ12 2 роки тому +4

    "How deep does it go?"
    ... THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

  • @Deuwl
    @Deuwl Рік тому +2

    This show was the best depiction of the Avengers in any media including media I have seen that is not the comics. They went overboard in Avengers Assemble. AA wasn't the same as they wanted to go more with it was like in the movies. However, EMH was so so good. The characters, their design was so great. Just look at Cap. In AA, Cap looks like crap. However, EMH looks so so good. What works in the movies doesn't work in cartoons. EMH got the looks perfect like Zemo. Zemo looks so friggin good in EMH. This was the perfect cartoon. We really need 5 seasons of this. Start a petition and get it back. Kang, Doom, Zemo, Leader. All were great villains. Fucking brilliant show

  • @jackmahoney3783
    @jackmahoney3783 2 роки тому +3

    I don’t really have much to say about the skrull Doom other than that was the connection that I had made at the time when I was younger. Although I don’t really remember when the virus would have been implanted and even than the detector was shown to be useless except for maybe finding skrulls that were still hidden.

  • @MrChupacabra555
    @MrChupacabra555 Рік тому +3

    On 'Skrull Doom': That episode was both one of the most exciting episodes, and one of the most disappointing, because it gave us a non-avengers Villain, and kind of promised we would see the Fantastic Four at some point (to reveal that Sue was a Skrull), but it never happened 😔
    On Fury's Moving Eyepatch: I remember in the ads for 'Spider-Man: Far From Home', that the posters messed up what eye Fury had his patch on, and Sam Jackson himself even used his favorite word to point out the mistake on twitter 😂
    However, we later learn that that wasn't the real Fury, but a Skrull posing as him while he was off world. Could the wrong eyepatch on the poster have been a subtle hint that something was 'wrong' with Fury, I wonder?
    I loved the show because, as a Boomer fan going Way back, I see how they combined the best of stories decades old (Kree/Skrull War, Korvac), with more modern stories (Secret Invasion, and I think they pulled off S.I. better than the comics, by replacing an 'important' member of the group with a Skrull [Cap] and letting the audience know, and have us wonder how long it would take for the rest of the Avengers to notice (quite longer than I expected).

  • @px8864
    @px8864 2 роки тому +1

    I never knew the lore was this deep. Thanks for making this video

  • @garethmcguinness377
    @garethmcguinness377 Рік тому +1

    I want a Superhero Squad show iceberg video next

  • @egdiroh
    @egdiroh Рік тому +1

    Also the hulk busters had a helicopter pilot that was a GI Joe character

  • @Someguywithalotoftism
    @Someguywithalotoftism 2 роки тому +1

    I've never watched one of these ice erg videos I don't mind what they are and they're always like an hour long so I'm posting this before watching I'm intrigued

  • @impulsivestudios6705
    @impulsivestudios6705 2 роки тому +4

    I would’ve liked to see Marvel zombies and secret wars in the Yostverse

  • @fractalairduct7600
    @fractalairduct7600 2 роки тому +3

    Usually these videos are going through an iceberg that someone else made and has existed for a while, hence 'explained'.

  • @superduperman6535
    @superduperman6535 2 роки тому +3

    Do you think hulk vs wolverine is part of yostverse? Because if events of movie happend then it doesn't connects with wolverine and xmen as wolverine has no idea of sabertooth

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +2

      I think it happened - just a long time before WatXM. I haven’t watched it in a while, though, so my recollection might be off.

  • @Zander2212
    @Zander2212 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome, though I thought you'd mention that Tony Stark in EMH is also pretty heavily inspired by Robert Downey Jr (much like Banner and Norton.

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +2

      You’re right, would have been a good one to include - I suppose I just felt it was already well know enough.

  • @ShakyShako
    @ShakyShako 2 роки тому +2

    I remember this clip vividly, there was a flashback scene in Avengers Assemble with the EMH's designs. They may have wanted to make AA a sequel to EMH or just give an easter egg to the viewers.
    Here is a link to the clip: ua-cam.com/video/3ofP1GU3F2s/v-deo.html

  • @dynamic9852
    @dynamic9852 2 роки тому +2

    I knew I wasn't crazy when Nick Fury looked different!

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 роки тому +5

    i am still sad avengers earth mightiest heroes got cancelled.

  • @george49632
    @george49632 2 роки тому +1

    Did Reed Richard's come up with that Skrull Doom take because it's a stretch.
    I know, kill me haha

  • @abigailstaples3686
    @abigailstaples3686 3 дні тому

    good news; some time between this video being released and the day this comment was made, "powerless" is back in its proper spot as episode 15 of s2 (on disney+)!

  • @crashedfilms5720
    @crashedfilms5720 2 роки тому +1

    The doom-skrull theory is one is disagree with. He’s a leader first his country is his first priority. So it makes since he would try to fix the situation the fastest way possible.

  • @dunkbuscusgaming7016
    @dunkbuscusgaming7016 2 роки тому +2

    I always just assumed Hank didn't give himself blasters and whatever because he was a pacifist.

  • @emanuelcruzcarrasco4277
    @emanuelcruzcarrasco4277 2 роки тому +2

    Will you do a video about hulk and wolverine relationship in the hulk vs wolverine movie and wolverine and the xmen series

  • @l.gbrandon8762
    @l.gbrandon8762 Місяць тому

    I always thought AA was a sequel when I was younger, seeing as it starts with Avengers Mansion

  • @legokiller3579
    @legokiller3579 2 роки тому

    I’m fairly certain there is a flashback scene in AA that is animated in the style of EMH

  • @subsecretinc
    @subsecretinc Рік тому

    That video came out at my birthday 😊

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 2 роки тому

    Maybe a mention of Kirkland's contribution and untimely death.

  • @blakenilsen9852
    @blakenilsen9852 2 місяці тому

    I definitely thought the doom that gave Ironman the skrull detector was a skrull giving him the virus. Keep in mind, the skrulls don't even need to replace doom. Doom could have been somewhere else not necessarily captured

  • @alexanderjamesaustin
    @alexanderjamesaustin Рік тому +1

    I would assume wasp's design was inspired by bee's from teen titans

  • @bobZfish
    @bobZfish 2 роки тому +2

    Almost at 14k

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 2 роки тому +2

    12:01 TOO BAD THAT IRON MAN DIDN'T HAD THE SAME LUCK

  • @justnojustn3036
    @justnojustn3036 2 роки тому +2

    You forgot to mention the lost episode
    "De z es "

  • @orokusaki8670
    @orokusaki8670 Рік тому

    damn bro. you love EMH’ so so much

  • @SAS-jj8yh
    @SAS-jj8yh 2 роки тому +2

    I swear I've seen a... *downloaded* episode of the first few episodes where Nick Fury was originally white, then turned black. Or maybe I'm mixing him with another Marvel show that showed him white at first

  • @nitroplays7024
    @nitroplays7024 2 роки тому +3

    My vidoes fore the event are ready + i now they where from predator the one is litterly billy

  • @scottking8189
    @scottking8189 2 роки тому +3

    Love being a British boy and getting access to these vids before sleeping for work. Thanks broski
    Edit
    I made a Spider-Man swinging 3D animation, would love if you checked it out, you kinda got me back into spidey with spectacular so thanks for the inspiration

    • @PillarofGarbage
      @PillarofGarbage  2 роки тому +1

      Us Limeys gotta look out for one another
      And send me a link / post your animation in the Pillar of Garbage Discord / email it to me, whatever’s easiest!

  • @dumbass8647
    @dumbass8647 2 роки тому

    I actually have a DVD of the entire series with the full episode of powerless

  • @jackspicer6864
    @jackspicer6864 9 місяців тому

    So like how tf does the whole shared universe thing fit in timeliness wise cuz like in spectacular spiderman the whole villain shit thing was new and didn't start happening till spiderman came along but in emh seems like they'd always been a thing

  • @houssemchougui7340
    @houssemchougui7340 Рік тому

    Please somebody bring this shit back

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 2 роки тому +2

    I know its not the point but, y'all call Americans "yankees"? Even people from Texas? I don't know how I feel about that. Impressive video. Haven't seen all episodes, but EMH is easily my favorite Avengers cartoon adaption. Even above the 60's episodes of Cap's cartoon that were using Silver Age Avengers' comic art. Though, I think if either the 90's X-Men/Spider-Man makers or Spiderman and his Amazing Friends makers had made one, I'd have prefered it.

  • @ANW115
    @ANW115 2 роки тому +1

    Hey can u do a ice berg for wolverine and the X-men and can u also do one for spectacular Spider-Man

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 2 роки тому

    Wasp's _Ultimate Avengers_ look was by far the TASTIEST hot (i.e. best) look of all! (IMHO)