This is a very nice treasure as examples for my already existing dashboard. So lots of stuff to enriche my dashboard. Thx for the effort making this video!
Hello, Csongor. Thank you for your review on weidmuller's products. May I ask you a question about nodes installing. I have UC20-WL2000-IoT and UR20-1COM-232-485-422. Also I have peripheral device with RS-485 interface without Modbus protocol. PLC UC20 should recieving data from device via RS-485. I tried install node-red-contrib-serialport-rs485 and node-red-node-serialport but install failed: Is enough usb-connection from PC to PLC for installing some nodes or it should be direct connection via LAN? Or it doesn't matter how to connect to PLC for installing nodes?! Regards, Alex.
Uh, this is tricky question, and I don't think I will be able to answer that. Installing nodes over LAN works, so that is not a reason it fails. But I think UR20-1COM-232-485-422 is not visible in node-red as a serial port, therefore even if you could install the nodes, the serial port would not be visible. You need to configure the UR20-1COM-232-485-422 outside node-red and it only supports certain protocols like Modbus and others, so that would be useless a generic communication protocol. I am afraid you need to contact Weidmuller, I don't have the device any more to test.
I ordered a similar configuration, for testing purposes. I also notice that you engaged UR20-2PWM-PN-2A and you connected LED LAMP. It is a pulse module, I thought that you wanted to dim a LED light. Being, that there is a module with relay output up to 6A per channel, or you wanted to elude interface relay, due to DO +Interface relay you could switch on/off your led light easily. Please can you explain what was the idea? I found 2PWM indeed interesting to me, and I would like to add it to my configuration. Best regards, MR,
@@csongorvarga Great! Many thanks for your reply, appreciate it. It is shameful that there is not enough information about Muller PLC...I discovered your channel, and it is indeed useful as an introduction to Muller's portfolio.
Good afternoon. Is it possible to restore the UR20-FBC-PN-IRT-V2 module if there was a failure during firmware download? The LEDs are lit as follows: PWR green, SF orange, BF orange, MT orange. The terminal strip LED is red. If you can, please give me a hint
Sorry, I did not and I don't have the device any more. Looking at the video, it looks like I was given a 90W power supply for it. It looks like that is the biggest power supply from the range so it can probably run and even bigger setup (with more modules). Therefore I am guessing it would still consume 20-30W average. The datasheet says typical consumption of the core unit is 116 mA, for an I/O module it is 8-30mA but you also need relays as well that probably consume 50mA (?) each when energized. Does not sound a lot, but probably add up.
This is great, I've seen wago come out with a similar device recently but it ran node red on a docker. This one from Weidmuller seems to be of a more purpose made "node red/modbus" device.
@levsarkisov2686 I am not aware of it. I think they have never models that also support CodeSys which is developped in a separate application. But I have no experience in those.
I am sorry, I don't have this device any more. You mean how many cards you can add to one automation controller? Anyway, you should probably talk to Weidmuller about this.
No. On this model the editor runs on the device. As far as I know there are other PLC products that come with the traditional offline program editor which is later uploaded to the PLC.
You can connect to the USB port which creates a local network where the IP is always the same. But there are IP scanner programs that list all the devices on the network, that could be quicker.
@@csongorvarga Hmm, well the feature is meant to allow you to install front-end libraries to work with uibuilder & will serve the package folder as a web folder so you can access it from the web code. So it would certainly be interesting to load uibuilder and maybe jQuery or REACT (uibuilder already installs VueJS and bootstrap-vue - and therefore also bootstrap). Just to see how it performs if nothing else. But you might be able to things like smtp-server and so run a local mail server on your device (see the recent thread on the Node-RED forum). There are lots of other cool things available on npm of course. I think that you would also need to hack the settings.js file in order to load things in Node-RED though (again some discussion on this recently in the forum). Shouldn't be too hard if you can access the file or exec nodes.
This is a very nice treasure as examples for my already existing dashboard. So lots of stuff to enriche my dashboard. Thx for the effort making this video!
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Hello, Csongor. Thank you for your review on weidmuller's products.
May I ask you a question about nodes installing. I have UC20-WL2000-IoT and UR20-1COM-232-485-422. Also I have peripheral device with RS-485 interface without Modbus protocol. PLC UC20 should recieving data from device via RS-485.
I tried install node-red-contrib-serialport-rs485 and node-red-node-serialport but install failed:
Is enough usb-connection from PC to PLC for installing some nodes or it should be direct connection via LAN? Or it doesn't matter how to connect to PLC for installing nodes?!
Regards, Alex.
Uh, this is tricky question, and I don't think I will be able to answer that. Installing nodes over LAN works, so that is not a reason it fails. But I think UR20-1COM-232-485-422 is not visible in node-red as a serial port, therefore even if you could install the nodes, the serial port would not be visible. You need to configure the UR20-1COM-232-485-422 outside node-red and it only supports certain protocols like Modbus and others, so that would be useless a generic communication protocol. I am afraid you need to contact Weidmuller, I don't have the device any more to test.
I ordered a similar configuration, for testing purposes.
I also notice that you engaged UR20-2PWM-PN-2A and you connected LED LAMP. It is a pulse module, I thought that you wanted to dim a LED light.
Being, that there is a module with relay output up to 6A per channel, or you wanted to elude interface relay, due to DO +Interface relay you could switch on/off your led light easily.
Please can you explain what was the idea? I found 2PWM indeed interesting to me, and I would like to add it to my configuration.
Best regards,
MR,
There was no real purpose. I had these modules and I was just playing around with them.
@@csongorvarga Great! Many thanks for your reply, appreciate it.
It is shameful that there is not enough information about Muller PLC...I discovered your channel, and it is indeed useful as an introduction to Muller's portfolio.
Good afternoon. Is it possible to restore the UR20-FBC-PN-IRT-V2 module if there was a failure during firmware download? The LEDs are lit as follows: PWR green, SF orange, BF orange, MT orange. The terminal strip LED is red. If you can, please give me a hint
Sorry no idea. I am sure a Weidmuller technicial can fix it with some special hardware, by opening up the module...
Hey, I'm reviewing this to install on a yacht. Have you ever measured average power consumption with the setup you have in the video?
Sorry, I did not and I don't have the device any more. Looking at the video, it looks like I was given a 90W power supply for it. It looks like that is the biggest power supply from the range so it can probably run and even bigger setup (with more modules). Therefore I am guessing it would still consume 20-30W average. The datasheet says typical consumption of the core unit is 116 mA, for an I/O module it is 8-30mA but you also need relays as well that probably consume 50mA (?) each when energized. Does not sound a lot, but probably add up.
Thanks @@csongorvarga!
Nice review Thank you
This is great, I've seen wago come out with a similar device recently but it ran node red on a docker. This one from Weidmuller seems to be of a more purpose made "node red/modbus" device.
Docker on a PLC ☠
Good, but How to develop program without PLC UC20-WL2000-AC and modules? Is there a controller emulator?
@levsarkisov2686 I am not aware of it. I think they have never models that also support CodeSys which is developped in a separate application. But I have no experience in those.
nice review, how/where do you scale the analog input?
I am sorry, this video was made such a long time ago. I no longer have this unit, and to be honest I don't remember.
@@csongorvarga thank's for the fast reply
Thank you for posting this!
Nice video for presentation. I need to know how much current can i consume via a station composed of multiple card....and thanks
I am sorry, I don't have this device any more. You mean how many cards you can add to one automation controller? Anyway, you should probably talk to Weidmuller about this.
Thank you very much for the video, do you know how you can export the plc programming?
Uh sorry, this was a long time ago, I don't remember. And I don't have the device any more to test.
"U create web" looks excellent. but is there a possibility to create programs in offline mode? (without PLC available)
No. On this model the editor runs on the device. As far as I know there are other PLC products that come with the traditional offline program editor which is later uploaded to the PLC.
@@csongorvarga ok. Thanks. And can you export the fbd program ?
To import in another u-create project for exemple
@@parafuso_999 Yes, there is an export/import button so you can do that. I don't have this device any more, so I cannot export my example program.
If i forget the ip how can i restart the plc
You can connect to the USB port which creates a local network where the IP is always the same. But there are IP scanner programs that list all the devices on the network, that could be quicker.
Is this I/O Module can act like as a Gateway too ?
What do you mean gateway?
@@csongorvarga It's a module for sending the data through cloud / server after collected by i/o hub
@@Ladiesman7790 You can read the data in the PLC, and what you do with it is up to you. On it's own it does not collect the data or sends over cloud.
Thank you a lot.
It would be interesting to install uibuilder which lets you install other npm modules to see if that works OK :-)
Interesting, I did not know about that... what else would you install via npm and cannot be installed through the palette?
@@csongorvarga Hmm, well the feature is meant to allow you to install front-end libraries to work with uibuilder & will serve the package folder as a web folder so you can access it from the web code. So it would certainly be interesting to load uibuilder and maybe jQuery or REACT (uibuilder already installs VueJS and bootstrap-vue - and therefore also bootstrap). Just to see how it performs if nothing else. But you might be able to things like smtp-server and so run a local mail server on your device (see the recent thread on the Node-RED forum). There are lots of other cool things available on npm of course. I think that you would also need to hack the settings.js file in order to load things in Node-RED though (again some discussion on this recently in the forum). Shouldn't be too hard if you can access the file or exec nodes.
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