This is a very important video in the wide wizard's myth. At 4:45, fatmagic runs across a demo who may very well be VenusianRapper, the guy who kicked off the whole "fatmagic is a closet cheater" thing.
Spy is just the worst for spy mains because it scrapes away their mental health and for literally everyone because a good spy main can always turn the tides like a Phlog Pyro (not an exaggeration. A dead ringer spy recently curbed stomped our team and the sad thing is he's not even a cheater. He's a well known veteran on asian server and I've encountered him multiple times since i started playing TF2 in 2016.)
@@Agent-cv6kh Oh, well you're unbelievably immature for someone 17, no one even said Fatmagic did well and you're here wanting to one-up someone that have not played spy a lot
@@jerry3306 I don't think so, I think the timestamp was added after the comment was posted. The reason why I think so is that "(edited)" next to the "2 days ago"
All this video has done is remind me why I stopped playing spy. The sheer amount of blatant, non-register backstabs throughout this video gave me second-hand rage and disappointment.
There's been times when a single Spy with dead ringer and kunai pub stopped my entire team and trapped us in the spawn, I hated the virtual inmortality the combo gave him, but after playing with that combo I realised the ammount of skill needed to pull that off, or either he was hacking :/
Watching the first half of this video, especially with his comment at 4:18, I am reminded if a comment someone made on another video. They said (basically) "Fatmagic made a dark pact with some entity to have the power of a Spy, but only if he never plays Spy. He can play Gun Spy, but if he ever tries to go for backstabs, he loses his power." It's so true.
From all of my experience with spy there are mainly 2 possible things that can happen. 1.) Come on game i deserved that. I did the work for nothing. 2.) Game i didn't deserve that. I did nothing and was rewarded with everything.
This is an accurate display of how it feels to play spy(etleast for 90% of the tf2 playerbase). So accurte that I forgot I was watching a video and thought I was playing as the spy myself. Very entertaining video!👍
Fatmagic on his heavy video: Guys it's so easy, just turn around Also fatmagic as a spy: why are they turning around? Why- * dies * I'm laughing so hard lol
To blend in you have to act like you're on the other team. Don't look at your targets, look at your own team to appear as one of the enemy. Walk backwards to get in position. Move like you're trying to get into position to shoot to or are going to a heath pack. No bigger giveaway for a spy than some allied dude who just keeps looking at the wrong team.
@@AbcDefg-tq3ju It is truly agonizing, especially since you usually can't tell if you were acting suspicious, they randomly checked you, were seen by players who were spectating or just spawned, were called out through voice chat, or even if your disguise was just bugged, which everyone on the other team can see, but you can't. The lack of feedback is extraordinarily frustrating, but all the same the payoff is excellent when you stab a full uber medic when he's healing you, or when you get your enemies to thank you with voice commands about 2 seconds before you stab them.
20:20 have no clue if it was intentional, but that death-to-gameplay transition was so slick I had to rewatch it a few times to make sure I saw it right.
This video just reminds me that if I had spent my 3k hours on Spy and put them on Sniper, Scout or Soldier I'd probably be a god instead of a guy that wallows in salt 24/7 That said I was close to having a conniption fit anytime he wasn't disguised
Makes me want to ask, why so so many spies (good and bad) disguise as scout constantly? Like even when they’re found out they’ll still go as scout. Even fatmagic disguises as scout whenever he remembers to disguise. Why hide as a class that’s faster than you can actually go?
i feel kind of the same i only have 150 hours as scout but i do consistently well as him in pubs while i generally eat shit as spy with 900 hours when im not using the stock or gunspy loadout
@@SeaHay Disguising as Scout makes you visibly shorter due to his posture, which can confuse snipers going for headshots and help with hiding. It's also 1 of the 3 disguises that won't slow you down (others being Medic and Spy). Finally, Scouts tend to zip around the entire map so people may not be as suspicious if they catch a glimpse of him in a weird spot.
@@SeaHay The purpose of disguising is rarely to fool an enemy into believing that you really are your disguise target. If it is, then the disguise should only last for a few seconds while you're moving to cover or going for a stab. No disguise will be convincing for more than a few seconds unless you're playing against new players. If you try to make it last longer, then you will get spychecked and die instantly. The true purpose of disguising is to make it hard to discern your true hitbox, the weapon that you have out and to hide from sentries. Scout is small and his posture is very different from the Spy's posture. "Why hide as a class that’s faster than you can actually go?" Why would you want to move more slowly than Spy's normal speed? Your exact choice of disguise will rarely ever matter, so why not choose the one which lets you keep your speed and makes it harder for Snipers to instantly kill you?
that pyro at 15:37 lmao First he has a spasm and is randomly turning his mouse while holding M1 down and then calls Fatmagic a cheater in chat when that gets him backstabbed xD
Happy end of 2020 Fatmagic, i hope you look back to 2020 with fondness despite the overall gloomy aura and stuff... Power to you into 2021!!! Much appreciated my man for the endless high qualaty, premium TF2 content as always :)
i got a theory that for the first few hours you play spy in one day, the hitreg makes no sense and it will just screw you over. the game makes you think that you suck at spy just so you switch classes but if you insist, the hitreg fixes itself
I have over 2.5k hours in tf2 and most of my time spent playing spy and the very start of the video summed up what playing spy is. The amount of times you die simply because bad luck is staggering and honestly hilarious half the time.
The worst feeling as a kunai spy is when you've just respawned and got behind them, and a random soldier you couldn't have seen walks around a corner and immediately rocket jumps off your face before you've even decloaked.
when you go for the backstab when they are facing you , turn the opposite corner to where they are facing and look at their side or back. then try and wait for the backstab animation to strike. funny video i enjoyed it
As a spy main I always see you play sniper and I’m like “God this guy is just objectively better than me, I’m sure he’d destroy it being a spy as well.” Seeing you get absolutely annihilated as Kunai spy is so refreshing, I’m a masochist with my Big Earner and there’s so many instances where you die and it’s really, really not your fault 😂
Maybe the reason why your Scout and Spy disguise doesn't work is because people will always spycheck those classes, Heavy is the last class people will suspect
It won't matter since good players can catch any disguised class, disguising as scout, as someone said it in one of the replies, is for a smaller hit box that will make snipers have a hard time instantly killing you with a headshot.
I get backstabbed by a spy while looking him dead in the eyes. Then when I play spy I stab them directly in the back, it plays the backstab animation, and it butterknives them anyway. Trickstabbing is the only consistent backstabbing method
I actually looked this up a while back and those clouds of gnats are actually a mating thing. Due to their short lifespan, swarming makes mating much easier.
lmao i remember my comment a few videos ago how fatmagic has supernatural schneaky abilities as every class except spy, and here we are, watching the gods revoke fatmagics warlock powers because he's playing spy
When you are playing the spy, you are playing a horror game. Either you are a monster that hunts everyone down when the time is right, or you are just a prey hiding and praying to god no one would find you.
5:07 you hit the edge of what counts as a backstab but since you where turning the lag compensation predicted you'd be turned more which invalidated your backstab. The hit was registered after you had turned away, which you can hear on the hitsound. 7:22 He wasn't turned enough. You'd have to be against the wall closer looking into the same direction as he is to get the stab there (and if you had just waited half a second your current position had been fine too). 8:21 The game registers your knifes hit before your position, therefor the knife hit early enough to hit him and your angle was checked after the hit which reported as a valid angle for a backstab. So in the games eyes you got a normal sidestab 10:38 This is either something weird with lag compensation or he was more turned towards you than you saw (he was at your side so he wouldn't have to turn that much to invalidate the stab, he also reacted to you before you stabbed so it's possible) 15:39 He was moving his mouse fast and he had just moved it to where you've been (where he saw you) which opened him up for a sidestab (he's more turned than you see here) Flailing your mouse around actually helps makes you less predictable and be much more likely to get a stab like you got at 8:21
Those are just flaws with how source engine works, the game tells you HAVE to get behind an enemy for the perfect backstab, but they do not tell you that sometimes unexplainable moments for new players like those you listed occur frequently when playing spy such as unregistered backstab, and other disappointments as well. (I appreciate your explanation for each failure!)
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Finally now people can see the true pain of playing spy and not just the frags and lucky moments
if im not wrong lazypurple had a spy FEELS vid
family spy lucky moments
Idk man, I find it boring, it's almost always an easy topfrag toppoints for me every single game
@@DankDimensionMemes how about going to community servers with good people
"For every trickstab, there is a thousand failures"
- Mahatma Gandhi
This is a very important video in the wide wizard's myth. At 4:45, fatmagic runs across a demo who may very well be VenusianRapper, the guy who kicked off the whole "fatmagic is a closet cheater" thing.
I saw fatmagic lock on to his head at that exact moment (confirmed cheating)
The REAL Spy experience, all in one video.
Spy is straight up the worst class in the game and it's not even close
Spy is just the worst for spy mains because it scrapes away their mental health and for literally everyone because a good spy main can always turn the tides like a Phlog Pyro (not an exaggeration. A dead ringer spy recently curbed stomped our team and the sad thing is he's not even a cheater. He's a well known veteran on asian server and I've encountered him multiple times since i started playing TF2 in 2016.)
@@Agent-cv6kh no one will think ur cool lmao how old are you
@@Agent-cv6kh ur not fooling anyone with “im 17” lmfao
@@Agent-cv6kh Oh, well you're unbelievably immature for someone 17, no one even said Fatmagic did well and you're here wanting to one-up someone that have not played spy a lot
This is exactly how spy is played, being completely cloaked, then dying to a rogue crit.
I felt that at 5:05
Huh?
Think you got the wrong time stamp
@@jerry3306 I don't think so, I think the timestamp was added after the comment was posted. The reason why I think so is that "(edited)" next to the "2 days ago"
@@shookengie370 oh yeah, just realized its not part of the sentence
14:25 The palpable fear the moment a melee scout rounds the corner. Every other class wins that for free, yet spy does not.
I have killed every single class with just the fucking fish. So I disagree.
fatmagic can get behind lines with all classes, EXCEPT the one made for that, incredible
Fuck the heavy update whens the spy update
spy def needs one more than heavy lol
13:33
Fatmagic skipped the whole round where I was playing just to shatter my hopes and dreams of appearing
*Hello darkness my old friend*
17:40 imagine being the medic having to witness your heavy die this way
All this video has done is remind me why I stopped playing spy. The sheer amount of blatant, non-register backstabs throughout this video gave me second-hand rage and disappointment.
There's been times when a single Spy with dead ringer and kunai pub stopped my entire team and trapped us in the spawn, I hated the virtual inmortality the combo gave him, but after playing with that combo I realised the ammount of skill needed to pull that off, or either he was hacking :/
i fucking hate spy also cant play it
Along with the amount of undeserved successful stabs
It pains me in an inexplicable way
tbh i’ve been trickstabbed enough to the point where whenever i see one miss i am happy
Welcome to spy, where trying to get backstabs makes you question your own existence
"Why are there three scouts around eachother" these genuine questions are what made tf2
Watching the first half of this video, especially with his comment at 4:18, I am reminded if a comment someone made on another video. They said (basically) "Fatmagic made a dark pact with some entity to have the power of a Spy, but only if he never plays Spy. He can play Gun Spy, but if he ever tries to go for backstabs, he loses his power."
It's so true.
This man really went from bottom frag to top frag in one video. Inspirational.
Yeah like how tf, that was my progress in like 6 months but this man is doing it in one video
@Shazza Boi its called spy. Spy is super RNG. I’ll have one game whrre I get 80 points then another with barely 30 and I got like 500 hours on spy
@@eresoup7229 relatable
@@sharonsabu365 also pretty sure that Fatmagic has like minimum 5000-10000 hours playing TF2
Ah yes, the classic "undisguised spy" tactic.
Well he doesn't wanna disguise near the enemy's spawn because of the teammate outlines you see on spawn.
@@doctorquack1399 What about when he’s literally behind the enemy?
@@SomeFreakingCactus Haven't watched the whole thing yet so I dunno
Me when YER and dead ringer
From all of my experience with spy there are mainly 2 possible things that can happen.
1.) Come on game i deserved that. I did the work for nothing.
2.) Game i didn't deserve that. I did nothing and was rewarded with everything.
fatmagic struggles for 15 minutes then understands how to harness baby’s power
1:46 You can tell that gasp was genuine fear 😂
After having sunk many hours into this class, watching someone experience the true pain of playing spy feels almost cathartic.
This is an accurate display of how it feels to play spy(etleast for 90% of the tf2 playerbase).
So accurte that I forgot I was watching a video and thought I was playing as the spy myself.
Very entertaining video!👍
Someone give this man a large cake for his angry birthday
the amount of improvement in like 3 games is insane. no wonder youre so good at the game.
I like how fatmagic was so happy once he learned how to play spy in the second half of the video
its pretty fresh seeing fatmagic not being godlike player. i thought he mastered every class
20:26 shows how much your team can (accidentally) give away your position lol
Fatmagic on his heavy video: Guys it's so easy, just turn around
Also fatmagic as a spy: why are they turning around? Why- * dies *
I'm laughing so hard lol
Quick tip: at 1:02 you should have cloaked because afterburn, like all status effects, fade 20% faster when cloaked
Actually, it blocks 20% of all damage and reduces the durations of status effects by 50% I think, it can be really helpful indeed
@@sweetiecandy4885 you can survive a quickshot from the sniper while invisible
To blend in you have to act like you're on the other team. Don't look at your targets, look at your own team to appear as one of the enemy. Walk backwards to get in position. Move like you're trying to get into position to shoot to or are going to a heath pack. No bigger giveaway for a spy than some allied dude who just keeps looking at the wrong team.
Shh, people might start catching on. Disguise kills are by far the most fun and rewarding to get.
all of that commitment to disguises, so easily nullified by "they just spycheck you anyways"
@@AbcDefg-tq3ju It is truly agonizing, especially since you usually can't tell if you were acting suspicious, they randomly checked you, were seen by players who were spectating or just spawned, were called out through voice chat, or even if your disguise was just bugged, which everyone on the other team can see, but you can't.
The lack of feedback is extraordinarily frustrating, but all the same the payoff is excellent when you stab a full uber medic when he's healing you, or when you get your enemies to thank you with voice commands about 2 seconds before you stab them.
1:34 look at that awesome degreaser(?) scout is using :
That moment when Fatmagic enter the zone while playing in his hometown was epic. Great video as always!
The perfect definition of "how it feels to play spy"
20:20 have no clue if it was intentional, but that death-to-gameplay transition was so slick I had to rewatch it a few times to make sure I saw it right.
I watched your spy gameplay like a mother bird watching her babies flying out of the nest first time
Im so proud of you
Frenchman with weeb knife is off to visit our mothers
0:42 just noticed that the "why" is actually a sound effect made by fatmagic lmao
0:41 Story of my life as spy.
as spy you mostly need to master movements
Also press "b" to use your previous disguise: pretty good when you are on the move
2:51 is that THE Venusian rapper?
Imagine seeing that happen and going "yup, he's hacking" lmao
This video just reminds me that if I had spent my 3k hours on Spy and put them on Sniper, Scout or Soldier I'd probably be a god instead of a guy that wallows in salt 24/7
That said I was close to having a conniption fit anytime he wasn't disguised
Makes me want to ask, why so so many spies (good and bad) disguise as scout constantly? Like even when they’re found out they’ll still go as scout. Even fatmagic disguises as scout whenever he remembers to disguise. Why hide as a class that’s faster than you can actually go?
The sad state of spy. You can make him decent with thousands of hours of experience, and you can make every other class unstoppable with a thousand.
i feel kind of the same i only have 150 hours as scout but i do consistently well as him in pubs while i generally eat shit as spy with 900 hours when im not using the stock or gunspy loadout
@@SeaHay Disguising as Scout makes you visibly shorter due to his posture, which can confuse snipers going for headshots and help with hiding. It's also 1 of the 3 disguises that won't slow you down (others being Medic and Spy). Finally, Scouts tend to zip around the entire map so people may not be as suspicious if they catch a glimpse of him in a weird spot.
@@SeaHay The purpose of disguising is rarely to fool an enemy into believing that you really are your disguise target. If it is, then the disguise should only last for a few seconds while you're moving to cover or going for a stab. No disguise will be convincing for more than a few seconds unless you're playing against new players. If you try to make it last longer, then you will get spychecked and die instantly.
The true purpose of disguising is to make it hard to discern your true hitbox, the weapon that you have out and to hide from sentries. Scout is small and his posture is very different from the Spy's posture.
"Why hide as a class that’s faster than you can actually go?"
Why would you want to move more slowly than Spy's normal speed? Your exact choice of disguise will rarely ever matter, so why not choose the one which lets you keep your speed and makes it harder for Snipers to instantly kill you?
that pyro at 15:37 lmao
First he has a spasm and is randomly turning his mouse while holding M1 down and then calls Fatmagic a cheater in chat when that gets him backstabbed xD
Yeah life as spy is just pain 90%of the time but great satisfaction in the 1%
The other 9% is eternal suffering
Among us now the threat of us begin to go sus between us and sus and no sauce
Happy end of 2020 Fatmagic, i hope you look back to 2020 with fondness despite the overall gloomy aura and stuff... Power to you into 2021!!! Much appreciated my man for the endless high qualaty, premium TF2 content as always :)
One of my friends already said that he has the attitude of a spy main, now this is just fun
Spy: the class that you play right and everything fails, you play all wrong and get rewarded. It just works.
i got a theory that for the first few hours you play spy in one day, the hitreg makes no sense and it will just screw you over. the game makes you think that you suck at spy just so you switch classes but if you insist, the hitreg fixes itself
Decent at every class but absolutely rubbish as spy is something I can SO wholeheartedly relate to
7:20 how it feels to spy main tf2
pain.
save your sanity and don’t start playing kunai spy
I have over 2.5k hours in tf2 and most of my time spent playing spy and the very start of the video summed up what playing spy is. The amount of times you die simply because bad luck is staggering and honestly hilarious half the time.
This is absolutely the curse of playing Spy. Oh my God. I thought I was just terrible at the game
No no trust your instincts! You are definitely just terrible.
The worst feeling as a kunai spy is when you've just respawned and got behind them, and a random soldier you couldn't have seen walks around a corner and immediately rocket jumps off your face before you've even decloaked.
I honestly thiught this was 24 minutes of FatMagic whiffing the spy knife over and over and getting his only source of points from his gun.
11:31
LESS GO FATMAGIC MUSICAL CAREER REVEAL
when you go for the backstab when they are facing you , turn the opposite corner to where they are facing and look at their side or back. then try and wait for the backstab animation to strike. funny video i enjoyed it
Fatmagic is the only friendly killing, hightower capping sniper/spy main I support
all of the fail stabs make me feel like when im playing spy
Fatmagic: why do they know I'm there???
Also fatmagic: runs at them uncloaked and undisguised like he's playing an offense class
This video should've been called "70 health Ambassador spy guy", because clearly, The Ambassador did more work than the Kunai here
As a spy main I always see you play sniper and I’m like “God this guy is just objectively better than me, I’m sure he’d destroy it being a spy as well.”
Seeing you get absolutely annihilated as Kunai spy is so refreshing, I’m a masochist with my Big Earner and there’s so many instances where you die and it’s really, really not your fault 😂
10:00 ah yes welcome to blu borneo spawn. im surprised u havent seen a whole team of bottle knights doing that
This video is triggering my spy pain flashbacks
9:24 I hate walking my dog after rainy days, tons of those demons roam my streets and it's impossible to evade them.
Maybe the reason why your Scout and Spy disguise doesn't work is because people will always spycheck those classes, Heavy is the last class people will suspect
It won't matter since good players can catch any disguised class, disguising as scout, as someone said it in one of the replies, is for a smaller hit box that will make snipers have a hard time instantly killing you with a headshot.
Omg I didn’t even realize that venusianrapper was in this game
i love walking around (i eat the gnats)
The first minute and forty seconds was the most accurate spy gameplay ever.
Alternative Title: Fatmagic goes insane while random people act in ways unlike they would normally.
The fact that I tried to vote for harvest in the outro tells you that I was invested.
I get backstabbed by a spy while looking him dead in the eyes. Then when I play spy I stab them directly in the back, it plays the backstab animation, and it butterknives them anyway. Trickstabbing is the only consistent backstabbing method
When trying to stab someone who is looking at you try to strafe to the left it’s much easier to stab on the left
spy mains: *get a backstab when their target is facing them*
fatmagic:
‘Stupid ass spy bullsh**, oh I’m gonna wiggle my mouse look at me. Trick stab! I’m stabby stabby’
I love this video so much! Thanks fatmagic for the upload, it made my day waay better
I actually looked this up a while back and those clouds of gnats are actually a mating thing. Due to their short lifespan, swarming makes mating much easier.
welcome to spy where you don't know if your enemy has developed super hearing or sleeps 9 hours every night
Title: Kunai spy guy
Video: Spy perfectly disguised as harmless friendly hoovy
I feel the dejavo at 1:26, I think I saw this clip before, the scoot killing fatmagic after the soldier rocket jumps!
Happy new years largewizardry!
I swear, the fake backstabs are the bane of any spy player's existence.
The prime gamer diet consists of wine and beans
hope you have a nice end of the year and an awesome start of 2022 FatMagic!
lmao i remember my comment a few videos ago how fatmagic has supernatural schneaky abilities as every class except spy, and here we are, watching the gods revoke fatmagics warlock powers because he's playing spy
When you are playing the spy, you are playing a horror game.
Either you are a monster that hunts everyone down when the time is right, or you are just a prey hiding and praying to god no one would find you.
fatmagic being happy about getting a stab:
Klown: First time?
Spy may be fuqing Scouts mom but Valve is raw-dogging him harder.
"I can feel Ms. Pauling coursing through my veins"
the only time I get "back" stabbed is when im fully facing the spy and hes fully facing me and he clicks his m1 button and I die from 20 years away
The start shows exactly why disguises are important.
Something about harvest just unlocks abilities he never thought he had
5:07 you hit the edge of what counts as a backstab but since you where turning the lag compensation predicted you'd be turned more which invalidated your backstab. The hit was registered after you had turned away, which you can hear on the hitsound.
7:22 He wasn't turned enough. You'd have to be against the wall closer looking into the same direction as he is to get the stab there (and if you had just waited half a second your current position had been fine too).
8:21 The game registers your knifes hit before your position, therefor the knife hit early enough to hit him and your angle was checked after the hit which reported as a valid angle for a backstab. So in the games eyes you got a normal sidestab
10:38 This is either something weird with lag compensation or he was more turned towards you than you saw (he was at your side so he wouldn't have to turn that much to invalidate the stab, he also reacted to you before you stabbed so it's possible)
15:39 He was moving his mouse fast and he had just moved it to where you've been (where he saw you) which opened him up for a sidestab (he's more turned than you see here)
Flailing your mouse around actually helps makes you less predictable and be much more likely to get a stab like you got at 8:21
Those are just flaws with how source engine works, the game tells you HAVE to get behind an enemy for the perfect backstab, but they do not tell you that sometimes unexplainable moments for new players like those you listed occur frequently when playing spy such as unregistered backstab, and other disappointments as well. (I appreciate your explanation for each failure!)
Most accurate Pro spy gameplay: Just keep trying the same shit over and over until it works REALLY well for some reason
New challenge: You can only play Spy until you go Godlike with the knife in a random pub.
Time Limit: The end of the universe.
How i react when someone says spy isn’t the most skilled class ingame
worlds first real tf2 spy gameplay
Fatmagic forgot he's playing the spy instead of the sniper
fatmagic playing spy: cannot get a backstab and hits all of the headshots he goes for
the spies I play against: get facestabs and post lenny binds
Most random venusianrapper encounter
the first four minutes is my entirety of spy summed up into four minutes
The moment you said, I'm gonna crack the code" my video froze, for a looooong time. Congrats!
This is what I always wanted, Fatmagic playing as the spy for real