Both Sides of Lunada Bay Localism Lawsuit Speak Out - The Inertia
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2016
- March 29, 2016 is an important date in surf history. It marks the first time in surf culture’s relatively brief life that the United States legal system has been called upon to act as an arbiter of justice in surfing’s most ubiquitous, yet unspoken social code: localism. And what better place for the theater of the courts to perform its surf dance than Los Angeles, the entertainment capital of the world. The specific location: Lunada Bay.
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"Smog in Yosemite?" What a doorknob.
I was born and raised in Santa Barbara. 5th generation. I considered Rincon my home break. Not once in the almost 3 decades of surfing did I hassle someone for not being a local.
It's straight douche to think any part of violence and intimidation is ok because you happen to live in the same zip code where mother nature supplies good waves.
Invisible Armour Anti Bullet Systems damaged.
Amen brother we have the same problem here in San Diego with the rich and entitled Point Loma in La Jolla Surfers I'm born and raised in Point Loma 5th generation I've defended 100 dogs and non-locals many times against the vicious local punks sometimes they never grow up after being out of town for over 20 years and coming back in my 50s I could not believe the guys who are 55 to 65 still acting like teenagers
Amen brother amen!!! 100% agree pretty sad.
I surfed rincon once, it's a zoo. It would honestly be better if there were localism and only a few visitors were allowed. California doesn't have enough waves to support the legions of bozos that feel entitled to play in the surf.
@@squarecracker you’re the real bozo, because surfing is an entitlement. Looks like you’ve never actually looked up the definition of the word entitlement. All individuals have access to all ocean water through public beach access points.
Dont like it? Tough shit....
That's nothing, I went down there with my dad and they threw large rocks at us from the clif. We were just enjoying a sunny day in the beach
@Cameron Pylant nice projection grandpa
@@whistcanada there are numerous educational programs to fix your obvious lack of spelling chops...
And one other thing, if you're tough enough to attack someone because you don't want them in "your" waves, then you're tough enough to defend yourself in the jail. If not, well that's too bad.
In Rio we have a 60 miles coastline with all kinds of breaks , most beach breaks . Now there are a few sort of point breaks , they all have locals but don't act like they own the spot . Be cool and have fun knowing how to behave . Now there is a point break a lot like Snapper Rocks , the locals there are a bunch of douchebags in a bad mean way . Nobody even bother to check the conditions , drive right by . Now if one of them go surf on any other spot and is recognized he better run . He is not gonna get beat up , but will lose his board , four flat tires
Don't cut me off I won't cut you off! Other than that your welcome at my home break and I hope I'm welcome at yours. It's all about good vibes and good times.
Well said Amigo. Surfing is supposed to be fun. These guys need to chill out. Talk about entitled.
No matter how long I sit in my town's central plaza. I will never own it. The same applies to the ocean.
We have a lots of surf spots which way much better quality than this, i am so lucky to be born and race in indonesia, i live in bali where all high quality waves are on my neighbourhood ,we welcome all americans surfers and all other surfers from all over the world to come to our island and country to surf all those best quality waves in the world! Love and peace from bali island Indonesia 🌴🌴🌞🌞🌞👍🙏😀🏄🏄
That’s true. Now your country needs to do better with your moneys they can clean up the trash.
I hope they put a massive parking lot and escalator right down to the beach on this spot.
Fuck y'all surf punks, you Lose!!!
Lol, and they will. I've been saying it for years, Palos Verdes is the next Dana Point. It's not the surfers that destroy these spots, its the freaking locals who grow up, values change, and next thing you know there's a ritz carlton and a freaking elevator. I recently shot a video of Lunada Bay, posted it to my FB business page and have already had to delete 3 comments, the hate is real and its sad.
That would be fucking poetic
@@amateuradventurer8185 I seriously doubt that. I grew up in that area (did not surf Lunada Bay and didn't get along with the guys who did) and I can tell you this. The people who live there will not put up with a resort going up in LB and have the money and power to prevent any such thing from happening. And that includes locals who grow older and "value" change.
@@cycologist7069 The locals are heroes. There needs to be more spots that are regulated.
This happens all over America. Non-residents show up at parks, beaches, and hangouts that never had big crowds before. Same thing with gentrification. I've got no smpathy for the "locals" who complain. It's not "yours" and never was.
It's VERY bad down under and all over the world. Not just in the U.S.
@@filmlover2284 when you say down under do you mean Australia?
@The Best Western Welcome to planet earth.
Get over yourself dickhead. I’m from the Gold Coast and we have ridiculous crowds.
@@ahx4699 yes !🇦🇺
Frank Ponce, "[localism] happens at almost every beach you go to." Apparently, Frank has never surfed anywhere else.
way to go Frank you big pussy
I’m thinking about bringing a suburban full of my friends from riverside so we can have party waves on our rasta wavestorms
@@whistcanada humbodt boys com'n down to surf go ahead try that shit on us socal wuss.
@@lawrencetruitt2700 your just another punkass with no guts making comments on channels, there is dozens of little bitches like you on youtube haha
lawrence truitt I would accommodate you but I’m too busy packing fudge in the Luanda gay shack, besides I can’t fight but I’m good at sucking
@@balihigh2216 Hey Lawrence whats up man, hey this fool here 'Bali High'
@@lawrencetruitt2700 Hey Lawrence whats up man, hey this fool here 'Bali High'
I'm organizing "Lunada Bay Surf Tours" this year. Gonna be bussing groups in. All tours come with security and will be filmed for the participants. Stay tuned
Surly Man lmao. Underrated comment
Epic. I'm in
Hysterical! will you supply Wavestorms for all?
Wave storm parade!
Update?
I was recently surfing at an undisclosed location with a reputation for localism. It's a great wave but genuinely only one peak. Anyways the people there were actually so nice that I felt bad trying to take a wave and haven't been back since. On the other hand at a break in baja a guy paddled out with a lucha libre mask and started hassling me. I told him he looked ridiculous and and it just motivated me to catch more waves.
Honestly makes me wanna go fight them 😂
bring it josehoser
@Tony G Haha wow Tony G/Ant G. asking for balihigh's phone number, dam you really want to get gay with him huh? and now you are impersonating him lol what a loser!
@@whistcanada Hey balihigh wasup man, ya we know this punk Tony G. never showed up at the Bay, he's one of these fake ass internet tuff guys, this fool has not balls, gutless haha
Fight? Shoot to kill!
@ bali high: be careful what you wish for. You may find yourself busted up and in the back of a cop car and facing a lawsuit and prison time. Someone gonna get those cheeks, boy.
I surf where I want when I want.
said every kook in history
@@cb3266 calm down clown. It’s a free country.
@@cb3266 u have to be a freakin kook to use the word "kook" lol
Remember my second time in life surfing at Malibu,just moved from Rio to live in L A. A much bigger local dude for no reason while paddling looked at me . i was surfing more at the inside away from him,he was far out with their local friends.Was there surfing leftovers without bothering and snaking waves. He just saw i looked different,board,wetsuit not me,blonde hair,tall but different. Well he went by me again and start talking loud at me,did not understood a word since my english was zero. Anyway got a wave and went out,it so happen he came after me.Once on shore he swing the fin of his board on my. Was not alone had some friends with me. Told one to tell him to give me money to fix,was a 19 skinny kid and him taller and at least 45 pounds heavier,not fat. He just wanted to kick my ass,the year was 83.Had no way out there I was facing him,my friends around and also some of his buds. Thought with myself,shit have to fight this big guy now. My friend said let them go at it,is between them , they all agree. Was the first time these guys saw BJJ in real life,at the time was just JJ.Kept him away from me kicking his legs and knees,grab his legs heads down,put him to sleep. He came up to his senses not knowing what happen,but saw me walking away.still dizzy came running after me. Knew he had to be conscious when was done,just push him he felt lock his head with my legs in a harm lock until he asked to stop.First real fight in my life,never before had one. Was always a JJ athlete never learn to fight,liked only compete,the guy walked away clean. Surf is respect,locals that act like they own the beach usually are not welcome in some other brake. It comes down to,if i can't surf at yours you can't surf on my. Nobody owns the ocean,or part of it is all about respect. I won't drop in your wave and nobody on my,people have drop in my wave few ,,many times.Sucks still is not a reason to fight. Respect the locals just like locals have to respect who is not,unless one or the other have no sense.Saw J Parkisson at Snapper snaking on everybody time after time. Nice guy but bad manners.
Miss home!
boa carai! tem que bota esses vagabundo p dormi aqui é Brasil rapaiz!! OSSSSSSAAAAA
@@jeffkimball3339 Why?
Nice! 👍🏼
I am surprised that happened to you at the Bu.
Gangs in the water. First surfed there in 62. Back then anyone could give it a go. Found it to be a novelty wave. A few years later moved to Hawaii and didn't go out there until 71. Still no problem. Mid 70s it started to change for the worse. Now it's nice to have all the a$$holes in one spot, claiming junky waves as a birthright.
I was in SD for a few months in'94.My girlfriend said If I wanted to surf, I better go with our neighbor because they would chase me out of the lineup. Locals only. We went to the beach, waves were lame, water was cold, kelp and all. What a bunch of kooks. I declined, road mtb for a few months. Then moved back to Oahu.
These guys are classic, they even have a "fort" a ha ha ha ...yeah, Yosemite's turned into Compton, haven't you heard? take a trip outside your zip code sometime Einstein.
damn u fucking killed him
The FORT got dismantled .
😂 best comment ever 😂
Fuckin commies
Imagine if other sports did this. Like the people who live closest to the gym can hit someone with a barbell if they dont live near the gym. Or in skiing they snap your ski is of your not a nomad who lives on the slope all winter
It's NOT part of every beach to do ridiculous things like that to people at "Your" surf spot. Yes, certain breaks around the World have a pecking order, but usually your skill level in the water plays an important role too. I've spent over 30 years of my life surfing all over the East Coast, West Coast, Mexico, etc.... and I've never had an issue. I always let my surfing do the talking. What makes me mad (no matter what surf spot) is when beginners learning to surf, surf right in the main line up. They makes it dangerous for all the surfers because they seem to always be in the way (stuck on the inside, dropping in on you, crashing into you, etc). If you're learning to surf, you need to pick a spot down the beach away from the "line up" so you don't get in the way. Also, you'll have a lot more waves to practice on since there isn't a pack of surfers fighting for every set wave.
Amen.
Lol thats what I did then I got swept out
this video deserves a damn award I couldn't stop laughing
I remember reading an article in the mid '90s about a local from Silver Strand who was convicted of assaulting a non-local. The judge came up with a creative sentence for the local: he couldn't surf at Silver Strand for a year or he would go to jail. So what does this Einstein do? He get's caught surfing there. I wonder what he told the others at the jail when they asked what he was in there for? Stealing cars? "No." Armed robbery? "No." Than what are you in here for? "Surfing."
A guy named Tim Banas and his son Tommy sued the police up there for protecting the Bay Boys after 8 of them attacked the two. ( Tim Banas died recently RIP ) The case languished in court for many years and Banas was eventually awarded a paltry sum .
I have heard that those "local" kooks don't even live in PV. If so, why would the cops protect them?
Are Lunada locals welcomed in any other beach or do they only surf there?
I would love them to be treated the same way when they go out ...
I lived in San Pedro for years, surfed there, even got dirty looks when I first went, no one ever attacked me or even started shit ... Lunada Bay ??? watch the videos !!! it's like the Special Olympics of surfing
Just like the locals in Hawaii.
I have autism and I surf. Many times people mistake me for being an asshole. I am just quiet and don't process social cues like regular people. I surf alone and many people don't know me even though I've lived here and surfed my break for 8 years. I try to tell people I'm autistic but they think I'm joking. I've been physically threatened in Hawaii as well because I don't socialize like normal people. I wish everyone was just a little more understanding instead of jumping to conclusions. Not everyone is wired the same way. Some of us have to really try extremely hard to train our brains to pick up subtle social cues.
Here ill help this is a happy face 😃
heres a angry one 😡
@@boogieheads lmao
@@batboy5023 sam hyde everybody
2:45 This guy trying to act like an average resident is a joke. Also, his reasoning is beyond weak. His eyes tell it all.
Of all the years surfing in the area..many moons ago..never saw the Bay worth the walk..good times were down in Redondo or Haggerty's. (PV and Manhattan Beach)
The wave looks worth surfing when its big. But these locals take off on the shoulder. What pussies.
Lol, the waves arent even that good.
class of 75 from there, it was bad back in the day. leashes made the places In pv accessible to all, thats when it got worse. I live in San Diego now, much better waves and a chill vibe.
I have a stupid question: what if I were just to drive by and check out the beach no surfing just walking around? I’m from the OC and I like visiting that area when I get the chance. I’d rather ask stupid questions than do stupid things.
Been surfing for over 40 years and my conclusion is surfers can be very small minded. It's why I'd rather ride my motorcycle unless the waves are cranking.
I've taken up mat surfing: ua-cam.com/video/pMfYt0naMwo/v-deo.html No that's not me in the vid.
Unfortunately, this lawsuit will probably make these clowns act even more hostile to non-locals. But good on her for at least trying.
In 1965 I rode LB on a Surf board made by Robert Millner no leash, Just slip check and a pair of cutoff blue jeans. Eight foot no one out but one other guy on a Jacobs , great nose rider this guy was, he said he was from the Pacific Palisades. never did get his name.
My friend was 14 years old suiting up to surf lunada bay and a 40 year old man threatened to throw rocks at him and his friend if they went surfing there.
Nobody owns the ocean.
I lost my board in early 1962 and was on the beach retrieving my board when someone threw a large rock from the cliff that landed a few feet from me, if it had hit me it could have been lethal. After reading the posts here it makes me glad I moved to North Idaho to
ski deep powder and never returned. Surfing is got to be one of the most soulful sports in the world. Looks like the soul has been removed and replaced with ego.
holy shit, that's the realist thing i've heard about surfing ever
Well surfing has been that way for decades so this is nothing new. LB is considered the worst of the worst in regards to localism. I grew up there and even I would not have been allowed to surf there. Not that I would have tried because I'm the first to admit I was a real life Wilbur Kookmeyer and honestly would have sucked at trying to surf there lol.
so funny how much controversy there is over a shit wave that breaks maybe 10 times a year.
True story , it is a shit wave
What's funny about it ? It's California, so cal only sizes up a few times a year. It goes both ways look at trestles. The break at the marine base. I'd love to surf Lunada again when it's good and not feel like it's an mma conference with no talking.
Make that five and you got a deal. Lunada is a shit wave if it's not over a real 12 feet and if you go there you will not be impressed with the surfing. they cant surf thats why they dont want surfers there....
I'm joking they all surf awsome! BTW I am gay, I go up there to watch because I seriously worship them all, I have seen from afar what a few look like and dam they are sexy mmmm, I wanna get on my knees and lick their balls! I dream of them all rapping my hairy ass, I really do! hehe yesss!
All beaches should be open to the public.
all beaches are open...
i’m a hardcore surfer and this is way over the top. pathetic, disgusting, and embarrassing. this gives us all a bad rap
I surfed there in the 90's with a local. I beat the shit out of guy who my surfmate knew well. He wanted to fight and he picked the wrong F'n dude to F with that day. I lived on the beach at my home break and yes we like locals only but not to this level. These guys were a punks for the most part. This was during a huge swell and they could not handle someone surfing better than they did that day. Surfing exploded after the 70's and radicalized locals have ruined the sport.
Hmmm??? My brother and Bob Hogan were the first to surf the bay in 1955. Big day! The got caught inside, lost their boards and had to swim the south point. My brother was on a balsa redwood railed board. No rubber suits! I surfed it till 61. Big deal! there are better formed waves! Go to the Indicator!!!
A realtor named Leo Nordine filed suit against The Luhrsen tribe at Breakwall.
I've heard that the "locals" at Lunada don't even live in PV. If so, what a joke.
Once you fight back and kick the shit out of them they might learn a little respect.
Ah, reminds of surfing Windansea and Bird Rock way back in the 1900’s….
Go somewhere tough if you want to be tough.
When you can't surf very well you become a bully to make up for it.
would I get messed with at lunada if I was a resident of rolling hills and just wanted to go snorkeling? if I stay away from the breaks and just snorkeling to check out the wildlife? ...no spearfishing or anything like that.
My dad surfed out there in the 30's, 40's, and 50's, with the original land owners, long before, these new comer "wannabe locals" moved there in the 60's and 70's and started their wannabe localism. When my dad surfed there, the original surfers PV welcomed surfers from everywhere, they'd all surf and dive and fish together, hang out and have big cook outs. And they were always welcomed back. Of course that's when there were probably only about 40 or 50 hard core surfers, and 100 or so, several times a year surfers.
Most of those new PV wannabe locals don't surf, and if they do t hey are flaming kooks, and in any event, the entire headland of PV has super shitty sloppy ledger waves, from Torrance all the way around to San Pedro. (Its one the few places in California that you can get away with riding a Simmons board or a kook box). When ever they think its good, there are 100's of other world class spots up and down the coast that blow PV off the map.
I have long heard of your Dad and his exploits, Joe Quigg the LEGEND...
gordon quigg . do you really want the mindless masses on your front door step .fact .so.cal is done .protect whats yours .the government is giving it to the hoards from south . Its everyman for himself .fuck lawyers hang jerry brown for treason . Its all been completely over run .. closed fishing access ..water rights . .ect . . .
Hal, when it comes to mindlessness, you win. I lived in PVE 50 years ago when I was a teenager and the bay boys were stupid rich white punks back then. The stupid rich punks trained another generation and now there's one more generation of spoiled white snowflakes that think they are better than the rest of the world.
Of course, they're not. They would get their asses handed to them in Hawaii. The would not dare do that shit on an Australian beach or in a pub. They get away with it in PV because the local police is in on it.
Guys.... you recognize this name? Here's today's fanny slap.
Gordon you clueless fuck, times have changed and so have the people who come to visit, they are not as friendly as you think, we don't take shit from anyone period. The blonde in the vid is a liar, she added a lot of bullshit to her story to get her 15mins of fame. If you really have relatives who surfed this spot back in the day you should show more respect for it and the locals who surf it now ya little kook.
That place is nothing to be proud of....Most days are small, and to run around claiming to be a Local, you should be embarrassed. I'm not a local but have surfed there, 9 out 10 of those guys could Never surf waves of any consequence...Just Punks raised by Punk Parents with NO Morals. Good Luck with That😲
I surf and this shit is just not cool. So bummed this is still happening.
So these Bay lads never surf anywhere else?
The guy from s.b. and rincon , yes me to 50's and 60's hammonds , el cap , the ranch.i am almost 70 , keep the peace , this is not heaven , yet , love our brothers and sisters.rob.
Most of these tough boy locals who terrorize visitors if faced with a stay in prison are going to get their stuff stolen and their booty took.
They have a fort? Is it in a tree with a "No Girls Allowed" sign hanging from the front?
This happens all the time on lakes too with boaters. Everyone thinks they own the lake just because they go there every day compared to visitors.
Call my nose back in the day. Went down there with my jujitsu teacher because his brother and his friend Gil got hassled by the leaders of this gang at Llanada. The way he handled it was amazing he just took me out surfing I was a Bluebell some kid from California. He just went down there to see what the story was. He found it amusing that his brother and his friend had a hard time. We were going to go home. They told him to get out of the water but they were talking shit to him, but from far away, he finally had enough put his board down and walked over to them Stuck his head in the middle of the three of them like a lion and just looked at them. Then took one of the boards and broke it over his knee and threw it in his face. Then stuck his head, and again it looked at all of them. They didn’t do shit. He just did his hands off and walked away puked a whole lot of them.
So does this mean I have to bring my heat with me in case some local punk wants to throw rocks at me just for visiting?
They will only throw rocks at you if you try to surf there. Are you going to have a gun with you to go surfing?
Used to be that fishermen would sometimes pack heat, because they were getting tired of being attacked. Most folks I talk to now carry bear spray for the same reason.
Hi I’m a local. We both drove our car to get to the spot but somehow I am more local...
Lunada Bay,stomping grounds of legendary JJ Moon who claimed getting sucked over the falls was a functional manuver,surf guru to Mickey Dora& the uninformed masses...
I would surf there if I wanted to. Sorry boys you dont own the water.
Gangs and gang violence as well as any other gang activity should be classed as terrorism. If I had anything to do with influencing laws, my motto would be; if you are in a gang, you are going to hang.
We do not have room in polite society for terrorism and acts thereof.
No, not our fort! 😭
I saw a Bayboy on his bike at Hermosa Pier . If I had wanted to cause him trouble I could have . I know some guys in PV and they don’t bother me. I don’t like THEIR wave anyway. Why bother ?
third comment here. just wanted to say great video! well done
Awesome! Thank you!
This was bound to happen to these spoiled, entitled jerks. I surfed there in the 70’s & 80’s & the localism was very real. They would damage your car (I parked blocks away) & once they threw a large rock at me while I was on the trail. I scurried back up the hill, confronted the group of punks ready for action. I was pissed because had the rock they threw hit me it could have killed me.
They backed off & I let them know if it ever happened again I wasn’t going to talk, I would just start kicking ass beginning with one of them I pointed out. I was a very good & respectful surfer & also an extensively trained fighter & am very glad it did escalate because they stood no chance. You’d get similar hassle at the Indicator but Lunada was the worst of the two.
Jason is a Fucking Liar..
@@whistcanada has a tiiiiiny dick to match his brain.
Typical response of bullies. Once they realize that there may be something for them to lose, they all of a sudden act like little bitches. What makes it worse, from what I have heard, is that these idiots don't even live in PV.
Headline: Wealthy Palos Verdes locals want private beach so they hassle people.
Aloha Point!!
Hahaha...protecting a shitty wave at best
Wish I had a fort
Looks like they approach people no problem who look like can’t hurt them. I’d like to see them start shit with a group of some super hood looking dudes lol bet they won’t
thats not a good wave, come out to michigan in december... thatll smog ur yosemite
Seems like karens want to go surf. Better let em try and surf now i guess.
Public access ? You lost me there lol
Surf the Beautiful Left at Haggertys
I hope you win your lawsuit
LUNADA BAY SURFER GANGS AKA THE FUCKING MARX BROTHERS! Sorry Marx Brothers I mean LUNADA BAY WATCH GIRLS!!!!
Lol rich ppl thinking they own the surf too
I lived with a nice group of 11 hard core Lunada Bay locals on the North Shore back in 1981. We all shared Carlos"s house together accross from Chris Lundy's place. The stories I heard about Lunada bay seem to be in complete contradiction to how they behaed in Hawaii. Very nice and respectful. Ofcourse on the North shore you are always on your best behavior. But, what I think underscores the whole localism atttitude like at most surf spots is a tradition of localiam passed down to each generation. The honor system. It's not right but it is this aspect of paying your dues which allows you to belong to the tribe. I grew up around the Huntington Pier. That's what you did no questions asked. Lunada bay locals just seem to take it a step further. Good or Bad Surfing is unique. Can you change that? Rules never fit surfing. Ask Frank. Btw, I think Frank was in Hawaii back in 81' along with Jeff and Don Johnston. Aloha Frank!!
Fred knows what's up..
Probably because the Lunada locals would’ve gotten beaten up by Oahu locals? Ah, a taste of their own medicine.
Lunada Bây is a dangerous wave to surf. I think the locals want to keep the outsiders out because they don’t know the break. They will cause turmoil in the lineup and get in the way, I was shagging boards of the rocks for older friends when I was in 5 th. Grade there. I know a few things about all the bay, not just the point. These lawsuits are disturbing to the regular guys who surf there now.
In the late 1960’s
You should try watching Johnny tsunami. Grandpa says the waves are for everyone.
Aloha Point
reminds of here in australia in the 60's..ha ha funny neanderthals
I was born and raised in Sunset Cliffs and Ocean Beach area and have surfed Lunada Bay more times than I can count I never once had a problem with any of the locals. it's kind of like new break down here if you know how to surf fine if you don't know how to surf stay out of the way and go to the beach that's safe to learn how to surf. no one is teaching surf etiquette and that is a God damn problem so yes we deal with it sometimes
now that I think about it maybe it had to do with the fact that I wasn't wearing a goon cord and I was riding my skip fry fish. I even asked somebody for some wax cuz I forgot mine and some guy tossed me a piece of Wax and said here no problem just put it on my bumper when you're done
No one is teaching grammar in English class anymore, apparently.
“They say there’s a gang called the Bay Boys. There’s no such gang.” But, eh… Excuse me, I’ve got to go run slash some tires real quick. Be right back.
these "Lunada Boys" should get jobs!
Well...that's interesting, like in my Area; if you didn't have parents that paid, and sent ya to college, Well....if you wanted to make Honest decent money, it was the trades for you! Honest Hard work, but necessary, You know for when the college kids got the bigger jobs and Homes. They needed them to be built, Cared for, and Usually dependent on a good Tradesmen to do it, I mean someone had to build the Pyramids for the Pharaohs?
So skilled Labor was the way to go, at least in my area, and the trades was the way to obtain to a certain standard of living at least, and that there Lye's the problem? You say go out and get a Job??? At one point, What Jobs? industry was outsourced, and Labor like Trades Saturated with cheap labor! Now that's a Vicious cycle once it starts.!...And thats what happened here in Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, and throughout most the Areas in the US experiencing Growth in late 70's, 80's, and 90's.
With Cheap labor Flooding the Nation coming up from the southern border driving down labor prices, while most where taking the money back across the border? With our Politicians Selling out industry to the Global markets, which only served Politicans and MultiNationalists, Bankers, with the explotation of the Nation and Resources, while destroying the Standard of Living etc, with changing the imigration act of 1990? That in its self allowed 700,000 New Imigrations to start Flooding the Nation starting in 1990, and has been every Year Since, Not to Mention the Obama Administration Flooding it even more!
So Politicians like Clintons, Bushs, Pelosi's, Fienstines, Newsom, and the Obama's are Getting enRiched? And We are left with the increased Taxs, No Jobs, Left with Coast of Living Rising, Food, Gas, Rent, Property Tax's going through the roof, and the average Person who Labored?....Well...Most don't realize that there are Billions of people willing to flood America to work for a $1.50 an hour, because the Country their fleeing From is the problem, Yet....You are being replaced here in the US for cheep Labor!....And If people dont understand that??? Well....I hope it doesnt happen to you, but it happened to many of my Generation, and that's why Trump was Popular.... but....As Biden is Reading for the Oath?, all Ready Mass's are forming at the Borders, Biden telegraphing going back to the Bull Bush, Clinton, Obama Sell out, and returning back to the problems We had Prior to Trump! The cycle readying itself again...But it will be worst this time, because we have idiots in charge!!!
@@clint45sday35 ya democrats r socialist who sell out the country to China
@@clint45sday35 please spare us the Dave Ramsey speech 🙄
@@spants1058 ….who’s Dave Ramsey??? But non the less, it’s panning out just what was thought … that F_o f f Biden and Democrat/Rino Republicans blowing BS …
The last part above, “Returning Back to the Problems We had, The Cycle readying it’s self Again”??? Well that F_ k ing cycle is here, in all areas, and it started day 1 of that Stupid mental sell out, SEEMS WAR & Tearing up WW2 peace treaties, setting up the good ol boy globalists Multi-nationalists to get paid, while they help facilitate the suffering, state noble words of outrage, patriotism, as they busily sell the dummied down societies with their BS…. Can’t help it if you can swollen the whole load, and bend over for more, but it bothers me to hear constant lies while you and all of us are being readied for the same BS…. What makes you think your safe? Your puke to them, I have a little higher standard to myself and Nation… freedom, liberty, and pursuit of happiness… and that means spit wads like Biden? There’s no room for his throw up….
I live in redondo beach and surf PV all the time and there isnt a lot of localism is you live in the area
That’s the definition of localism dopey!
@@danielgrrll Lol
I get it now as I get older. My local area is inundated with kooks now. People from the other side of the Bay Area coming and starting stuff. It sucks
You don't get anything.sad - neal a. Surfing is fun.that is the only take away that matters. - neal a.
And you cant see the similarities between you a short time ago galling in love with a sport and wanting to ride all kinds of waves? The only solution is to not breed.
Well…you can’t argue with stupid.
all this fuss over an overrated wave
I've surfed my home break since I was a little kid. Almost 30 years in the water. Locals get the waves wherever you go, that's just how it is. People who aren't locals tend to be the ones who don't like that and are usually the ones who leave trash, drop in on other surfers etc. When I travel I try to be respectful because I know what it's like. But I also have no problem dropping in on somebody at my home break if they aren't local. Respect gets respect. Don't like it? Who cares
You must be fun at parties 🙄 Hope you get dropped in on wherever you travel.
Everyone's a gangster to a real gangster shows up
“Locals Drool” 🤙🏻
you can own a piece of the dry stuff up there on the cliff, but the wet stuff is for everyone who respect fellow surfers
Lunatic Bay
i wanna crush their Boss and be at the top of their hierarchy and share the wave for all.
You gotta fight for your right to party.
California…. 😂😂😂 where even the surfers are lefties. 😂😂😂
surfer gang???? wtf hahahaha that shit is funny
Make them choke on their teeth, that should do the trick, then hold surf lessons with about 30 people.