Tom, thank you for the video. I looked later some documentaries about El Reno, that was really impressive. It is very sad it killed people, but it was real dangerous. Wind speed 300 miles an hour at the surface.... Frankly speaking, despite the risks I would have gone to chase tornado myself had there been such a chance. Spectacular manifestation of the nature's power, the only thing that comes to mind that could be more impressive is a volcano eruption. I have seen not a strong eruption at Sicily, but still the sight of lava glowing at night is unforgettable.
Mt St Helens was amazing. I've not seen a tornado except on phone or tv we had tons of warnings. I swear I heard it felt it then we watched all day lightening in the cloud of ash going up for ever like the way t storm clouds
It just goes to show,even if you are a professional,it is still extremely dangerous to put yourself in the path of nature's fury,I went to college for a little bit in meteorology,always wanted to be a storm chaser.I accidentally drove into an E-F0 and it was frightening,can't imagine driving into that monster.
@@ChrisJohnson-hk6es Neither are my hopes for society. In some ways, we may already be too far gone. Anyone who would steal a Mother's Day card out of a mailbox has no sense of decency, AT ALL! But then, there's KARMA ...
That Tornado was a monster and it caught many off guard by it's sudden shift in directions. On top of that going over 60 MPH at some points. That is a beautiful memorial.
@@inthedarkwoods2022 the El Reno tornado broke all the rules and it’s unpredictable erratic behavior caught many of people completely off guard, at one point it did a 360 degree loop over the highway, it sped up to 60 mph then stalled out, dropped multiple sub vortices, was rain wrapped etc etc This wasn’t the typical tornado
I visited the site April 27, 2023. Someone has now added about a dozen car license plates where the tornado debris is placed. The plates are from OK, TX, MN, TN, VA and OH.
The best video of El reno was Dan Robinsons video he barely escaped you can actually see the Tornado right behind him trying to reach out and get him. In his video you can see the Twistex team behind him at a crossing before the Tornado shifts north and engulfs them. The only way Robinson got away was he was little bit further to the east just enough. The rear video on his Toyota Yaris you can see the Satellite Tornadoes rotating around and like they were chasing him down. His underpowered car keeps trying to turn the traction control on which is a system that applies the brakes to the tire spinning by using the ABS computer causing power to be sent to the other tire keeping the car straight. The issue is you slow down when this happens, he keeps turning it off, but I believe as speeds increase the computer turns it back on. Yaris is a underpowered car lot of chasers use cars like these because they get good MPG.
This is why some of these automatic electronics on today's vehicles can be very dangerous. The fact that they can activate automatically even when the driver tries to deactivate them takes control away from the driver, and that actually can put the driver in great peril. One of our Jeeps had a feature that automatically shut off the engine at a stoplight or stop sign. It would, supposedly, start up again when the driver pressed the accelerator, but I always feared that some day it wouldn't, and I'd be stuck in traffic with an engine that wouldn't turn on, again. Fortunately, in that particular vehicle, one could manually deactivate that feature. In some vehicles that have it, you can't. We are entirely too dependent upon technology these days -- technology that does entirely too much for us so we get out of the habit of doing for ourselves. Some of it is great, but some of it can hamper our ability to control our devices when we need to.
That section off to the side of the memorial stone is actually where the car came to rest if I recall correctly. Before the big memorial went up, there was a little garden with stones where the crosses are. Also I believe two of the three in the Cobalt were ejected despite the fact I'm pretty sure they were wearing seatbelts. Being the state of the wreckage (the engine was ripped from the car) I wouldn't be surprised if the seatbelts failed though Tim was found still buckled in his seat. I believe the CB radio was in reference (or maybe even the one that was in the vehicle) to their last transmission on the State Police channel. This loss hit me hard as I remember reading (and watching) about his probe deployments starting in 2003. I believe I still have the Nat Geo magazine somewhere. I became somewhat of a fan and got super excited when I recognized him on the show Stormchasers. Everyone that watched that show or knew Tim were just as shocked as he was usually one of the first to back out of chasing a storm, even at the frustration of Carl at times. It makes it all the more tragic that they were lost and a lesson to the unpredictability of tornados. In a way their loss serves as a final lesson from Tim, Carl and Paul to us about never underestimating tornados.
Unfortunately the tornado went threw rapid intensification just south of this road. It removed grass all around the intersection you can see just you the road. Now anybody familiar knows that’s unthinkable power when you actually removed grass. Basically I would suspect fatal basilar skull fractures. So I raced for 25yrs and I’ve had 185g crash in 1999 where I fractured my skull. But I’ve had a ton of 80-100g crashes at 180-215mph. The sad thing is you can survive crashes at those speeds. The human body is way tougher than we thought. BUT you gotta have. Full containment seats/HANS (Head & Neck device) of some kind/ roll bar system. Passenger cars have airbags which is to keep the head and neck in a safe position to prevent basilar skull fractures (because the head isn’t seatbelted) the problem is airbags are only good for 1 impact sometimes 2 hits if they are very in a rapid succession. But to take 5 hard tumbles your airbag will save you from the first but after the 2nd your in big trouble. That’s why in racing we use physical restraints in the head and containment seats.
When they said he was still strapped in his seat belt, my first thought was broken neck or basilar skull fracture. It's hard to imagine what the forces were during that incident. Multiple, repeated forces.
The tornado didn’t follow a conventional path to the northeast. It went south east a bit and then tended northeast. They were just too close to it and were hit by offshoot funnels.
This tornado was going towards my house at the time, we didn’t have an underground shelter. We still don’t, even though we moved, but then it took a sudden right turn right before getting to us. Rest in peace to all who died to any tornado, and this one.
This sucks man. I was just watching all the seasons again, then find out about Matt, then Joel, now finding out about this. I know I’m very late to it but still. Damn.
They died doing what they loved. I would prefer to go that way, doing what I love. Honestly, the thought of someone changing my bed pan and giving me a bath isn't my idea of living. Rest easy guys! They did so much for the learning of tornadoes.
I couldn't see all of the picture because of the words over them. I didn't have any CC on. I wanted to actually see the words and pictures of the memorial. The video wasn't that long. I loved the Storm Chasers episodes. My condolences to the friends and families. 😢
@@jennyreyes1598well they probably stopped loving it as soon as it latched onto their car. Same with sky divers who's packs fail and rock climbers who slip.
Yes because they rate a tornado by the damage done, so if a tornado with recorded winds of 300 mph happens in an open field and hits a barn that is old and falling apart, they will throw out the radar and weather instrumentation and base the rating on the beat up barn damage. With the advancement of technology we have today, they should change the rating system. We know that there were windspeed recordings of 300+ MPH but use the out dated system still.
@@westleyburgess3622 The EF rating system is not outdated. Flawed perhaps, but its not just about numbers, its meant to measure impact on human life so we can perhaps learn in time to build better structures. Those 300mph winds measured by the radar may be a half mile or more above the surface and unless someone was dumb enough to fly an aircraft into the circulation, probably don't make impact at the ground.
The downgrade is due to lack of typical structural damage that an EF5 exhibits. Silly yes, however, the winds speeds did display EF5 strength. The width of this tornado was freaking wild measuring nearly 2.6 miles😮.
A Good idea of how dangerous Tornadoes can be, (although this memorial should serve as enough of an idea) is Dan Robinsons video taken literally the exact time the twistex team lost their lives. He was around a mile ahead of them when they were swept up and with his foot on the floor trying to escape the tornado it still overtook him and he was in the peripheral wall for about 3 minutes before he finally started to pull away, all while at full speed (At least what full speed was possible with such heavy winds, a gravel road and his traction control almost constantly lowering engine power as his tyres were bouncing off the road). His video is on YT.
But I never understood why Robinson stopped his vehicle, after successfully outrunning the tornado initially, and allowed it to catch up to him. He filmed for a while until the hail and wind forced him to dive into a ditch. Had that tornado been at full strength when it "caught" him, he would have been another unfortunate fatality.
@@sammyday3341 that is very sad tim and Paul and Carl lost there lives doing what they loved and saving many lives studying tornados I have to say they were in a under powered car it was a pizza delivery car now they are angles watching over all of there storm chaser friends rip tim Carl and Paul
I notice that among the debri on the ground is a partial license plate -- from the Samaras vehicle, I assume. I dread what will happen to that memorial the next time a tornado hits that area. It needs to be placed inside of a museum or other sturdy building. Just sitting out in the open, sooner or later, it's going to be demolished.
this is what really happened to the twistex group: when they were driving to reno airport the tornado unexpectedly made a 2nd loop directly hitting them r.i.p to carl tim and his son
It disturbs me the way we refuse confront the true death details of any accident or death which denies us of creating future solutions to the particular death. For example, from this incident, we know that having a fortified vehicle with reinforced roll bars, nascar-like 5-point harnesses plus extreme proof windows and superior mud terrain tires might have made a huge difference. Even helmets would have added to their safety. I’m truly sorry they passed. I’m sure they would have wanted us to learn from their deaths. Aloha my brothers and sisters.
Many people who do this sort of thing likely don't have the money to do that level of modification to their car. As for the Twistex crew, they took a direct hit from one of the sub-vorticies. Two of them were sucked out of the vehicle and were found half a mile away. Maybe seat belts could have helped, but it's hard to say. Cars just aren't meant for that kind of powerful force.
@oddtoucan After seeing more of the wreckage and the extreme extent of the damage to the vehicle, I doubt much would have saved them. May they Rest In Peace.
Regardless of these sensible safety features, if a very powerful tornado pulls your car high into the air then slams it to the ground & pancakes it, you're still very likely to die. Because of severe blunt force impact damage. Similar to the wall crash that killed Dale Earnhardt. But much worse because this car appears to have also tumbled many many times.
El Reno’s lessons are not about the car you drive-tho it did start a stagnant period after the “extreme meteorology” days surrounding Discovery’s Storm Chasers. Even if they were driving / wearing all of that, or at least driving Tim’s truck and not the goddamned Cobalt, they were dead anyway when they were hit. The true lesson that nobody seems to learn is that placing one’s self north of a tornado makes you susceptible to deviant motion, that is when a tornado turns hard left or to the north because of certain mechanisms with the storm. They were anticipating East-Southeastward motion, before it pivoted, widened like crazy for some reason, and then just threw itself at Reuter Road, and later that jammed up interstate. The intensity with which they were hit, thrown, and slammed back down would mangle even the most reinforced vehicles around, not to mention the traumatic forces inside. Getting yanked out like Paul and Carl were is no better of a fate. In short, chasing is all about positioning, and El Reno is what happens when even the best of the best lose the 4D chess match of road networks and storm motion.
Unfortunately, it wouldn't have helped in this type of tornado; however, if it was a smaller EF scale, there may have been a chance. Considering the TWISTEX vehicle was struck and thrown by a subvortex, which generate the highest winds; some of these were moving at 175 mph and thrown half a mile from initial impact death was pretty much immediate.
@@hamradiocq They were playing it as safe as possible, while trying to deploy probes ahead of an exceptionally rare tornado. I would like to see how you are "safer", dealing with a tornado of this size, when it puts on an unprecedented burst of growth, speed and then violently hooks round into your path? Especially when the tornadic winds are unexpectedly way further out than normal. On that day, many chasers found out the hard way.
@@Cantfindme2121 I listened to interviews of other storm chasers. They said the storm literally changed paths and accelerated towards twisted and there were 4 smaller vortexes rotating the main vortex. One of the vortexes hit the twistex team ultimately killing them. The person in the interview said it’s almost like the storm accelerated and lunged out after the twistex team. Like it had a mind of its own. Scary stuff. Completely in predictable and they were actually in a decently safe spot before the hook growth and acceleration.
If they rated them by windspeed it would have been, but they rate tornadoes on damage done. In an open field there's no damage to be done. Had recorded winds of 296 mph but didn't hit much so an EF5 got an EF3 rating
At least have the respect to say Tim's name right. Would of been nice if you had done some real research on this before trying to use it to gain views also.
Not everybody has proper time or knowledge to do research on events, to which not all sources have correct facts. But the fact that this man even came out there to visit this memorial is something large. I personally have only recently been watching a lot more tornado and storm chaser videos, and ended up watching a video about the El Reno tornado (It was a video with footage from the storm chaser who had been in front of the three men who lost their lives.) and learned about this incident. Which goes to show... Some people don't learn about things until they look it up and majority of the public are in the dark. It's purely frightening to even try to process what happened to these men. It's hard to pronounce names properly if you only have words and not an oral pronunciation, so please give this man a break when he even had the decency to even visit this memorial. Not everybody has the decency to do so as how he mentioned that this memorial had been shot up before... I don't mean this whole spiel to be rude or anything like that, but just to show a different side to things and that this man didn't mean to defame the men by a simple mispronunciation. It's how a lot of hate online and irl spreads. If I have some points wrong, I apologize. Mistakes do get made.
@@FCPrincessX Thank you for the defense. Entitled people believe it's easy and cheap and free to deliver interesting content. It's not, but they don't appreciate.
@@FCPrincessX He visits the memorial but he clearly doesn't give a rat's ass about the people who the memorial was made after. He's just checking it out of curiosity rather than respect and honor. Also, the dude just straight disrespected them in a reply to a comment saying that he's "safer" than them (TWISTEX was a very cautious team and to say they weren't would be a lie). What a joke.
Given one glance over, I would have thought it was just some of the stuff that gets tossed to the side of the road. With a closer look, it is definitely the wreckage, but hard to tell at first.
You Really Said It With No Care Do Some More Research Before You Talk So Openly About Something You Don’t Know About Tim Paul And Carl We’re Found Where That Mess Is At I Actually Knew Them So Please Know That There Are People Out There That Knew And Loved Them 😭😭😭😭
Calm down karen. Just because you know them he doesn't. Obviously you're going to be more emotional about it. Everyone has a different tone or a way of saying things. The guy wasn't being disrespectful.
You know I have chased storms for 20 years and I don't think any of the three men would want anyone to come here in there memory and argue. My point is, you stand up for them as I do as well. Then you have a bunch of keyboard warriors who want to turn this into a my dad can beat up ur dad. If you really want to honor them. Stop the bickering bullshit
Adam, these guys were out trying to deploy probes that gather important information that could be used to better understand tornadoes in hopes of keeping people safe and alive during tornadoes.
@@tjwhitt80 Whatever. They were adrenaline junkies that liked to ride close to the razor’s edge. It was a high for them. Well, guess what…they rode it too close, and they got cut. Plain and simple. These “weather chasers” are nothing more than extreme adrenaline junkies, using science and the “public good” as their excuse to obtain funding so that they can go out and play with tornadoes.
Tom, thank you for the video. I looked later some documentaries about El Reno, that was really impressive. It is very sad it killed people, but it was real dangerous. Wind speed 300 miles an hour at the surface.... Frankly speaking, despite the risks I would have gone to chase tornado myself had there been such a chance. Spectacular manifestation of the nature's power, the only thing that comes to mind that could be more impressive is a volcano eruption. I have seen not a strong eruption at Sicily, but still the sight of lava glowing at night is unforgettable.
Wow, thanks for the interesting comment.
Mt St Helens was amazing. I've not seen a tornado except on phone or tv we had tons of warnings. I swear I heard it felt it then we watched all day lightening in the cloud of ash going up for ever like the way t storm clouds
It just goes to show,even if you are a professional,it is still extremely dangerous to put yourself in the path of nature's fury,I went to college for a little bit in meteorology,always wanted to be a storm chaser.I accidentally drove into an E-F0 and it was frightening,can't imagine driving into that monster.
300 was a supposed speed of a subvortex, possibly the one that hit the TWISTEX car.
It should be a crime that the El Reno tornado was rated an EF3.
I hope people will NEVER take things off of a memorial..really bad luck they will face. They are offerings for the dead!
People these days are disgusting. Just had someone steal my mom's mother's day card from the mail. My hopes for society is not positive.
@@ChrisJohnson-hk6es so sorry to hear that!! people are disgusting !!
I would not do that. What we say in Georgia “y’all get some bad juju”.
You would be surprised how often people take stuff from cemeteries. It's an actual business for some.
@@ChrisJohnson-hk6es Neither are my hopes for society. In some ways, we may already be too far gone. Anyone who would steal a Mother's Day card out of a mailbox has no sense of decency, AT ALL! But then, there's KARMA ...
That Tornado was a monster and it caught many off guard by it's sudden shift in directions. On top of that going over 60 MPH at some points. That is a beautiful memorial.
Well if you are chasing a tornado you should be on your guard.
@@inthedarkwoods2022 Agree. It's a bit shocking when veteran chasers get caught non the less.
@@inthedarkwoods2022 the El Reno tornado broke all the rules and it’s unpredictable erratic behavior caught many of people completely off guard, at one point it did a 360 degree loop over the highway, it sped up to 60 mph then stalled out, dropped multiple sub vortices, was rain wrapped etc etc
This wasn’t the typical tornado
@@brizzle3903 The fact you think there are "tornado rules" shows your inability to understand the unpredictability of nature. There are no "rules"
Some of the satellite tornadoes (like what got Twistex) had ground speeds of almost 160mph.. which is LUDACRIS…
I visited the site April 27, 2023. Someone has now added about a dozen car license plates where the tornado debris is placed. The plates are from OK, TX, MN, TN, VA and OH.
This is the tornado I saw outside of my home before it was demolished completely. Absolute monster tornado, The El Reno...
The best video of El reno was Dan Robinsons video he barely escaped you can actually see the Tornado right behind him trying to reach out and get him. In his video you can see the Twistex team behind him at a crossing before the Tornado shifts north and engulfs them. The only way Robinson got away was he was little bit further to the east just enough. The rear video on his Toyota Yaris you can see the Satellite Tornadoes rotating around and like they were chasing him down. His underpowered car keeps trying to turn the traction control on which is a system that applies the brakes to the tire spinning by using the ABS computer causing power to be sent to the other tire keeping the car straight. The issue is you slow down when this happens, he keeps turning it off, but I believe as speeds increase the computer turns it back on. Yaris is a underpowered car lot of chasers use cars like these because they get good MPG.
Thank you so much for the comment friend!
Yeah that video is terrifying I just watched and it's unbelievable that he managers to escape
This is why some of these automatic electronics on today's vehicles can be very dangerous. The fact that they can activate automatically even when the driver tries to deactivate them takes control away from the driver, and that actually can put the driver in great peril.
One of our Jeeps had a feature that automatically shut off the engine at a stoplight or stop sign. It would, supposedly, start up again when the driver pressed the accelerator, but I always feared that some day it wouldn't, and I'd be stuck in traffic with an engine that wouldn't turn on, again. Fortunately, in that particular vehicle, one could manually deactivate that feature. In some vehicles that have it, you can't.
We are entirely too dependent upon technology these days -- technology that does entirely too much for us so we get out of the habit of doing for ourselves. Some of it is great, but some of it can hamper our ability to control our devices when we need to.
That section off to the side of the memorial stone is actually where the car came to rest if I recall correctly. Before the big memorial went up, there was a little garden with stones where the crosses are. Also I believe two of the three in the Cobalt were ejected despite the fact I'm pretty sure they were wearing seatbelts. Being the state of the wreckage (the engine was ripped from the car) I wouldn't be surprised if the seatbelts failed though Tim was found still buckled in his seat. I believe the CB radio was in reference (or maybe even the one that was in the vehicle) to their last transmission on the State Police channel.
This loss hit me hard as I remember reading (and watching) about his probe deployments starting in 2003. I believe I still have the Nat Geo magazine somewhere. I became somewhat of a fan and got super excited when I recognized him on the show Stormchasers. Everyone that watched that show or knew Tim were just as shocked as he was usually one of the first to back out of chasing a storm, even at the frustration of Carl at times. It makes it all the more tragic that they were lost and a lesson to the unpredictability of tornados.
In a way their loss serves as a final lesson from Tim, Carl and Paul to us about never underestimating tornados.
The car was found out in the field directly behind the original memorial.
@@tjwhitt80 from the photo of the wreckage it looks like it was found right there next to the gravel road, not in the field.
@@THEGLASSMANSWORLDthat’s cause it was moved.
@@elric5371 oh bs
Rest in peace legends of the twistex team
That money you saw and mentioned is there from people who came to pay their respects and left the coins in tradition.
ok
Yep. Offering for the dead. Those who would take it will get bad luck.
2:13 “I heard on the news that somebody shot this”
Ok wasn’t expecting that.
Yeah people like to shoot this thing they put up
It was Joe Biden
@@dukenukem69 have some respect here.
the whole area with good weather just so beautiful and peaceful
Unfortunately the tornado went threw rapid intensification just south of this road. It removed grass all around the intersection you can see just you the road. Now anybody familiar knows that’s unthinkable power when you actually removed grass. Basically I would suspect fatal basilar skull fractures. So I raced for 25yrs and I’ve had 185g crash in 1999 where I fractured my skull. But I’ve had a ton of 80-100g crashes at 180-215mph. The sad thing is you can survive crashes at those speeds. The human body is way tougher than we thought. BUT you gotta have. Full containment seats/HANS (Head & Neck device) of some kind/ roll bar system. Passenger cars have airbags which is to keep the head and neck in a safe position to prevent basilar skull fractures (because the head isn’t seatbelted) the problem is airbags are only good for 1 impact sometimes 2 hits if they are very in a rapid succession. But to take 5 hard tumbles your airbag will save you from the first but after the 2nd your in big trouble. That’s why in racing we use physical restraints in the head and containment seats.
When they said he was still strapped in his seat belt, my first thought was broken neck or basilar skull fracture. It's hard to imagine what the forces were during that incident. Multiple, repeated forces.
Did u ever have a clue that his son was decapitated and here u r going on about skull fractures, etc….dude, just take a break!
@@lbanderson40 the tornado tore the head off?
@lbanderson40 You act like it's his fault.
Sounds like your driving needs some improvement.
The tornado didn’t follow a conventional path to the northeast. It went south east a bit and then tended northeast. They were just too close to it and were hit by offshoot funnels.
I believe it also took a turn as well right before approaching the chasers! Not enough credit was given to these chasers, they were excellent!!
This tornado was going towards my house at the time, we didn’t have an underground shelter. We still don’t, even though we moved, but then it took a sudden right turn right before getting to us. Rest in peace to all who died to any tornado, and this one.
This sucks man. I was just watching all the seasons again, then find out about Matt, then Joel, now finding out about this. I know I’m very late to it but still. Damn.
The tornado literally ripped their clothes off of their bodies. It’s so sad.
RIP Twistex team ❤
I visited the memorial with my brother and father about two weeks ago now.
Leaving money for the dead is ingrained within several cultures…. Not mess or weird
I also heard that the tornado was expanding 11 feet a second, correct me if I’m wrong.
I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure it was the fastest expanding tornado in history
They died doing what they loved. I would prefer to go that way, doing what I love. Honestly, the thought of someone changing my bed pan and giving me a bath isn't my idea of living. Rest easy guys! They did so much for the learning of tornadoes.
Yeah I agree
I doubt they were in a loving mood as they were screaming into the radio that they were going to die.
The El Reno tornado did not make it to Moore.
I couldn't see all of the picture because of the words over them. I didn't have any CC on. I wanted to actually see the words and pictures of the memorial. The video wasn't that long. I loved the Storm Chasers episodes. My condolences to the friends and families. 😢
Oh my goodness....looking at that car....they must've died a scary, horrific death. Very sad.
They did. But everybody keeps saying "they died doing what they loved." Such a stupid saying.
@@gooberpeas535 are they wrong though?
@@jennyreyes1598well they probably stopped loving it as soon as it latched onto their car. Same with sky divers who's packs fail and rock climbers who slip.
I read that the El Reno tornado is classified as an EF3
Yes because they rate a tornado by the damage done, so if a tornado with recorded winds of 300 mph happens in an open field and hits a barn that is old and falling apart, they will throw out the radar and weather instrumentation and base the rating on the beat up barn damage. With the advancement of technology we have today, they should change the rating system. We know that there were windspeed recordings of 300+ MPH but use the out dated system still.
@@westleyburgess3622 The EF rating system is not outdated. Flawed perhaps, but its not just about numbers, its meant to measure impact on human life so we can perhaps learn in time to build better structures. Those 300mph winds measured by the radar may be a half mile or more above the surface and unless someone was dumb enough to fly an aircraft into the circulation, probably don't make impact at the ground.
The downgrade is due to lack of typical structural damage that an EF5 exhibits. Silly yes, however, the winds speeds did display EF5 strength. The width of this tornado was freaking wild measuring nearly 2.6 miles😮.
My thought on the dollars is the old practice of putting coins on a person's eyes to pay the toll to actually go to the underworld.
If it follows the military tradition, maybe it indicates they were chasing that storm or involved in it. That's my guess
A Good idea of how dangerous Tornadoes can be, (although this memorial should serve as enough of an idea) is Dan Robinsons video taken literally the exact time the twistex team lost their lives. He was around a mile ahead of them when they were swept up and with his foot on the floor trying to escape the tornado it still overtook him and he was in the peripheral wall for about 3 minutes before he finally started to pull away, all while at full speed (At least what full speed was possible with such heavy winds, a gravel road and his traction control almost constantly lowering engine power as his tyres were bouncing off the road). His video is on YT.
But I never understood why Robinson stopped his vehicle, after successfully outrunning the tornado initially, and allowed it to catch up to him. He filmed for a while until the hail and wind forced him to dive into a ditch. Had that tornado been at full strength when it "caught" him, he would have been another unfortunate fatality.
That tornado didn’t follow any rules.
Dindu
That is so disgusting that someone vandalized this memorial! They were all good men, very intelligent! Rip Tim, Paul and Carl🙏
Is that trash to the left of it?
I couldn't see it, what does it say?
what does what say?
I went here today, it has changed alot.
Interesting
@@hamradiocq Yep, a lot more things added to it.
The el Reno tornado is now a ef3
Ok
Whats the license plate I bet it came from the car
I recently visited. There are now about a dozen license plates there, from all over the country.
@@sammyday3341 that is very sad tim and Paul and Carl lost there lives doing what they loved and saving many lives studying tornados I have to say they were in a under powered car it was a pizza delivery car now they are angles watching over all of there storm chaser friends rip tim Carl and Paul
I'm not sure
None of the plates there came from the Twistex car
WASNT EF-5 IT WAS A EF-3 BUT THE VORTICIES THAT KILLED THE TWISEX TEAM WERE EF-5 WIND SPEEDS
Yes, that's what I heard, a whip came out and got them.
@@hamradiocq YEP
I think the debris was from the inside of the car
I notice that among the debri on the ground is a partial license plate -- from the Samaras vehicle, I assume. I dread what will happen to that memorial the next time a tornado hits that area. It needs to be placed inside of a museum or other sturdy building. Just sitting out in the open, sooner or later, it's going to be demolished.
Yup
this is what really happened to the twistex group: when they were driving to reno airport the tornado unexpectedly made a 2nd loop directly hitting them r.i.p to carl tim and his son
Never go into a tornado when ur car cant resist the windspeeds.
Have a good one 👍
I'm going to guess those were items from the car. 😢
I don't think so, I think they were little tokens
It disturbs me the way we refuse confront the true death details of any accident or death which denies us of creating future solutions to the particular death. For example, from this incident, we know that having a fortified vehicle with reinforced roll bars, nascar-like 5-point harnesses plus extreme proof windows and superior mud terrain tires might have made a huge difference. Even helmets would have added to their safety. I’m truly sorry they passed. I’m sure they would have wanted us to learn from their deaths. Aloha my brothers and sisters.
Many people who do this sort of thing likely don't have the money to do that level of modification to their car. As for the Twistex crew, they took a direct hit from one of the sub-vorticies. Two of them were sucked out of the vehicle and were found half a mile away. Maybe seat belts could have helped, but it's hard to say. Cars just aren't meant for that kind of powerful force.
@oddtoucan After seeing more of the wreckage and the extreme extent of the damage to the vehicle, I doubt much would have saved them. May they Rest In Peace.
Instead of all that, how about just don't drive your car into a tornado to begin with. Let's start there.
Regardless of these sensible safety features, if a very powerful tornado pulls your car high into the air then slams it to the ground & pancakes it, you're still very likely to die. Because of severe blunt force impact damage. Similar to the wall crash that killed Dale Earnhardt. But much worse because this car appears to have also tumbled many many times.
El Reno’s lessons are not about the car you drive-tho it did start a stagnant period after the “extreme meteorology” days surrounding Discovery’s Storm Chasers. Even if they were driving / wearing all of that, or at least driving Tim’s truck and not the goddamned Cobalt, they were dead anyway when they were hit.
The true lesson that nobody seems to learn is that placing one’s self north of a tornado makes you susceptible to deviant motion, that is when a tornado turns hard left or to the north because of certain mechanisms with the storm. They were anticipating East-Southeastward motion, before it pivoted, widened like crazy for some reason, and then just threw itself at Reuter Road, and later that jammed up interstate. The intensity with which they were hit, thrown, and slammed back down would mangle even the most reinforced vehicles around, not to mention the traumatic forces inside. Getting yanked out like Paul and Carl were is no better of a fate.
In short, chasing is all about positioning, and El Reno is what happens when even the best of the best lose the 4D chess match of road networks and storm motion.
Looks like a roll cage would have probably saved their lifes
agreed
Unfortunately, it wouldn't have helped in this type of tornado; however, if it was a smaller EF scale, there may have been a chance. Considering the TWISTEX vehicle was struck and thrown by a subvortex, which generate the highest winds; some of these were moving at 175 mph and thrown half a mile from initial impact death was pretty much immediate.
None of the body’s were found ???
Yes, they were found.
Sweet, minced meat or recognizable? Is there a link to the actual pics?
@@bobhubson8511 Seek professional help.
@@bobhubson8511 Are you a f*cking psycho?
@@bobhubson8511why in the world would you want to see pictures of their dead bodies??
I hope your name does not come up as a victim. Please take care when you storm spot.
:) I'm more careful than they were my friend.
@@hamradiocq I'm glad! 👍👍
@@hamradiocq They were playing it as safe as possible, while trying to deploy probes ahead of an exceptionally rare tornado. I would like to see how you are "safer", dealing with a tornado of this size, when it puts on an unprecedented burst of growth, speed and then violently hooks round into your path?
Especially when the tornadic winds are unexpectedly way further out than normal. On that day, many chasers found out the hard way.
The storm shifted directions out of no where and they were caught in it. It changed paths unexpectedly so how is that not safe man? Dam
@@Cantfindme2121 I listened to interviews of other storm chasers. They said the storm literally changed paths and accelerated towards twisted and there were 4 smaller vortexes rotating the main vortex. One of the vortexes hit the twistex team ultimately killing them. The person in the interview said it’s almost like the storm accelerated and lunged out after the twistex team. Like it had a mind of its own. Scary stuff. Completely in predictable and they were actually in a decently safe spot before the hook growth and acceleration.
wasn't EF5 it was EF3 RIP TWISTEX
Yeah that's the rating it got but the wind speeds were way over 200mph
296 mph
This video was taken a long time ago, I'm not sure now. Tnx for watching.
Ham...go check why we put money on the monument...i don't remember why but i do it too for spirits. I knew...❤
You pay the reaper to guarantee entry into the next life
Wasn't an EF 5 tornado
winds of it but no damage
If they rated them by windspeed it would have been, but they rate tornadoes on damage done. In an open field there's no damage to be done. Had recorded winds of 296 mph but didn't hit much so an EF5 got an EF3 rating
Ok
3:42 threw it somewhere?? It got thrown where the tombstone is sitting, that’s why it’s their!
There not their.
They need to release the video already
ua-cam.com/video/ZSnNE8NSMNI/v-deo.html
They won't. They're keeping it private to respect the families
This is extremely insensitive. If the family wants to keep it private then leave them be
@@sonnysock I do believe the parents of them as well as the wives want to keep the footage private
I would like to see it, but I respect the family’s decision
Actually killed 4, but people only talk about 3.
At least have the respect to say Tim's name right. Would of been nice if you had done some real research on this before trying to use it to gain views also.
Not everybody has proper time or knowledge to do research on events, to which not all sources have correct facts. But the fact that this man even came out there to visit this memorial is something large.
I personally have only recently been watching a lot more tornado and storm chaser videos, and ended up watching a video about the El Reno tornado (It was a video with footage from the storm chaser who had been in front of the three men who lost their lives.) and learned about this incident. Which goes to show... Some people don't learn about things until they look it up and majority of the public are in the dark. It's purely frightening to even try to process what happened to these men.
It's hard to pronounce names properly if you only have words and not an oral pronunciation, so please give this man a break when he even had the decency to even visit this memorial. Not everybody has the decency to do so as how he mentioned that this memorial had been shot up before...
I don't mean this whole spiel to be rude or anything like that, but just to show a different side to things and that this man didn't mean to defame the men by a simple mispronunciation. It's how a lot of hate online and irl spreads.
If I have some points wrong, I apologize. Mistakes do get made.
Ok, Chrass Simmpletom Sammons.
@@FCPrincessX Thank you for the defense. Entitled people believe it's easy and cheap and free to deliver interesting content. It's not, but they don't appreciate.
@@FCPrincessX He visits the memorial but he clearly doesn't give a rat's ass about the people who the memorial was made after. He's just checking it out of curiosity rather than respect and honor. Also, the dude just straight disrespected them in a reply to a comment saying that he's "safer" than them (TWISTEX was a very cautious team and to say they weren't would be a lie). What a joke.
I want more footage on their end, where can I find it?
joking
Lol, so many people are mad at me for this video. I'm glad you have a sense of humor.
MAYBE WREAKAGE FROM THERE CAR??
Given one glance over, I would have thought it was just some of the stuff that gets tossed to the side of the road. With a closer look, it is definitely the wreckage, but hard to tell at first.
None of the Twistex car is at the memorial.
TWISTEX I MEAN
Money on a grave means something… you should look it up, it’s not weird.
I sern it many times
A sub vortice go them and sucked them in the tornado and they got thrown over half a mile
Why didn't the uploader include the footage from beginning to bitter end of twistex?
Well they died doing what the loved but they was killed by the same thing that they chased the tornado 🌪️
I wonder who leaves an unopened beer and cigarette money for the dead.
😢RIP
Rip :(
shame tim
You Really Said It With No Care Do Some More Research Before You Talk So Openly About Something You Don’t Know About Tim Paul And Carl We’re Found Where That Mess Is At I Actually Knew Them So Please Know That There Are People Out There That Knew And Loved Them 😭😭😭😭
Calm down karen. Just because you know them he doesn't. Obviously you're going to be more emotional about it. Everyone has a different tone or a way of saying things. The guy wasn't being disrespectful.
Actually two of them got sucked out of the car and were fucking lobbed half a mile away
Hey thanks for clarifying to that Karen. I love Alex Jones btw.
Aimee: Punctuation is quite a concept. Loved the capital letter on each word though! 😂
You know I have chased storms for 20 years and I don't think any of the three men would want anyone to come here in there memory and argue. My point is, you stand up for them as I do as well. Then you have a bunch of keyboard warriors who want to turn this into a my dad can beat up ur dad. If you really want to honor them. Stop the bickering bullshit
3:10 i was totally expecting the money to just disappear from that cup when the transition happened
All three of those men shared in earning the Darwin Award of the Year for 2013. Their families should be proud! 🤣😂😃
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. All I gotta say.
What a stupid comment to make. Go educate yourself on this tornado…
I totally agree.
Adam, these guys were out trying to deploy probes that gather important information that could be used to better understand tornadoes in hopes of keeping people safe and alive during tornadoes.
@@tjwhitt80 he’s a troll with zero brains
@@tjwhitt80 Whatever. They were adrenaline junkies that liked to ride close to the razor’s edge. It was a high for them. Well, guess what…they rode it too close, and they got cut. Plain and simple. These “weather chasers” are nothing more than extreme adrenaline junkies, using science and the “public good” as their excuse to obtain funding so that they can go out and play with tornadoes.