I also had this problem but once I found out what kind of men I attract (liars, cheaters, men who are taken, con artist and don't want to commit) I just set boundaries and let them know this is how I am and this is what I'm looking for. If you're not with it goodbye. Just as simple as that. Twelfth house have no restrictions that's why it's important to set limits and see situations for how they really are before getting deeply involved with someone.
this is my Vedic natal placement and i am a woman sub here first time. This placement has me feeling doomed and hopeless. My self love is more important to me than looking for something outside myself. Ive suffered many many heartbreaks and now enough is enough. Its now time for a relationship with and for myself by myself. I dont believe in 'soulmates, twin flames' and i am now happy being alone, single & celibate by choice forever. Rx Venus Pisces 12H
My BF has Venus Taurus in 12th. Is a musician with many artistic talents - writing poetry, color, a good sense of fashion, interior decorating, etc. Forbidden affairs -for sure. Part of the lure of that is if u love someone u can't have you do not risk direct rejections, abandonment or heartache. They just aren't available. Its the flip side of the issue. You are quite right about their not declaring their deep feelings first. They lure u in and wait for you to say u love them first. Also, in searching for a soul mate these people tend to put the object of their desire on a pedestal when they wish from afar. They can be let down when the reality doesn't live up to the illusion. Complicated placement but I agree are very loyal, deeply committed and passionate once they find someone to love them back. Thanks for this video. It is RIGHT ON!
this is a painful position for me , all my relationship have been painful I try my best to love regardless of the situation and gets hurt so badly the men's lie nonstop and iam forgiving person , but emotional release is important for us Venus in 12th house, I will be honest and say mostly all the men's I attract are unavailable men's like married, commitment issues,abusers, lier's, cheaters ,men's who bring nothing but troubles and I finally understand this placement now I will rather be alone then be in an relationship with any man , and I told people this ,people who I don't want always try to convince me to date them ,iam shy,introverted person who never will have the guts to openly express how I feel to consider to date a man , I do daydream alot and not accept the reality of the situation which is so so painful .may God bless us Venus in 12th , thank you so much for this upload this resonate 100% and more. Blessing to you
shower Divine Don't give up Being aware of the karma and energy will help- loving yourself first and having healthy boundaries and a spiritual connection is important for us and then we can attract the right people But we always will love those with pain and attract those who need us We just have to know ourself and that we feel s deeply is not personal love but our empathic nature to feel others pain which feels like love
Interesting video. I have Venus in Taurus in 12th. I was very shy when I was younger and I avoided love relationships with people even though I liked them.
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Many celebrities have this placement because they have no other choice but to have secret relationships hidden form the public. Those who have this placement are not doomed in relationships. They can find love but it can be hidden or secret relationships. For example, in some cases someone who is in love with a person of different religion may have to hide. Someone who is homosexual may want to hide his/her relationships from the family, etc. Someone can be in love with a person who lives far away, etc. So, it does not prevent love. It makes it a little more challenging but not impossible. Also it depends on the sign where Venus is in and aspects. Having Venus in other houses is not always better. Some aspects are really a pain in the butt. Like Venus conjunction Saturn, etc. I have Venus conjunct Saturn and I can tell you that it is not pleasant either. So, for anyone with Venus in 12th house, there is hope!
Hi! You are not cursed. This placement has many beautiful blessings of creativity and protection as well from harm. Love is our learning and we grow through heartache- join me in my FB astrology groups. You can find them on 8and12houses.com/home
Venus in 12th is the Venus in pieces energy. It’s exalted. You will find your partner .but u will be rejected couple of times first. Then ur will find them. It will take time and hanging on. Venus in pieces will bring it to u .
Amanitaaish Aish Well what does it mean when you have a Venus in Virgo (fall) in the 12th house (exalted Pisces energy)? It seems like no matter where I look in my chart I have the negative expression of everything.
@@winter_s_44 according to vedic astrology, when it comes to weightage of seeing what's happening with a planet with respect to house and Zodiac, house 50%, zodiac 25%, aspect 25% weightage. nakshatra give the direction. Zodiac gives it personality and house gives the push. like u said venus in 12th is venus exalted. Venus will being you what u want here cuz this is like venus in 12th house of original house of pieces. So u want deep / philosophical connection. Venus in virgo zodiac will also look for something practical and realistic Cuz venus here is forced to deal with Mercuryian things like energy of 3rd house and 6th house. U must see the mercury position. How it's placed and Which houses venus is ruling to understand full picture Cuz there r various possibilities.
Amanitaaish Aish Thank you! I am very much a novice in this. Would there be any way you would be able to take a look at my chart and give me more insight? I really don’t have anyone to help explain and no one ever helps me on forums or anything. I am dealing with a difficult chart and am trying to not give up all hope on life. Any help you could provide would be most appreciated.
All through high-school, I've had these 'secret ' somethings. Where it was all in for the time it was but won't let anyone or anybody know about it. So when it ended..there's no 'evidence ' or any sort of history except the one in memories.
So true! I have Venus conjunct my AC in Taurus/12th and have always been in love with LOVE! I am a singer, violinist, actress, dancer, and visual artist too!! Once, when I was in my bedroom practicing my singing (age 18-ish), I stopped in the middle of a song and exclaimed to the Universe that the ONLY thing I wanted from this life was to find my one true love!!! My third boyfriend became my now husband of 30-years...he is my soulmate! 💗💗💗
Venus in the 12th and Venus in Pisces here. The thing that have always interested me is this aspect that I have: Venus conjunct the ascendant. I would love a video about it.
Your voice....is sooo calming and relaxing that it made me sleepy😊👌🏻✨ You're like my ASMR without even trying :D lol. But yes! I AGREEE! Venus in 12th does well and need a spiritual partner. I loved someone that was pisces sun and Venus and he was so wise, intellectual and spiritual. We agreed on a lot and thinked the same way to a degree, I miss him all the time, and I doubt I'll meet someone like him again :/I've secretly had crushes on people from my past, but never told them, cuz I was super shy. I'm still shy but not like my past. My Venus is in libra in the 12th house but also on the 1st house cusp! 😊 Loved the video, I saw nothing negative that was said about this placement, like no anger from me. You're just speaking the truth, so it was fine and fair 😊❤️
i have my sun and venus in the 12th house. my venus is pisces. this is very true. i fell in love with this girl at work who loved me too, we had an emotional affair for 3 years and she was engaged and couldn't tell me. her parents arranged it before she met me. it was awful. she denied everything seeing as we never dated. i still feel like we are twin flames. i've had so many psychic moments. it's unbelievable.
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Omg it's so true. I've been bed ridden the past week my chest hurts so bad from the past ten years physically. I have got the biggest walls up. You described this so well
I have my venus in the 12th house (Virgo here). My first kiss was with a guy I met that already had a girlfriend. That was years ago. Now I think I love a friend but he also already has a girlfriend. And I've realized through out my life I've always love guys but in secret, never have I manifest my love, I've always loved them in some kind of fantasy of mine. So I truly connect with my venus in the 12th. Hopefully, one day I'll be able to love someone loudly and rightfully.
No your not doomed-just have to learn to love yourself and not allow yourself to be in unhealthy relationships with people that have problems and you are rescuer
HEY STOB IT thank you for sharing and you will! But first must learn the lesson of this placement We have to love ourselves first Watch my new videos about 12th house Venus too 🌹 Let me know what you think
Spot on! Everything you said. Venus in 12th in Pisces. Artistic in many ways, but struggled with expressing it until now, secretive in love, loving and suffering in secret, not revealing myself before the other does, spiritual. Forever searching for a spiritual kind of connection. I feel people's emotions deeply, when I was younger I often absorbed someone else's pain and thought that it was my own. In particular I suffered in a silent connection with a classmate, it sounds silly, but I knew/felt his emotions, there was some kind of block between us, and when we were close to meeting again years later and discussing it, he never made it to the meeting, he committed suicide, I found out later that he was bipolar, and all those emotions I got from him were connected to his illness. My emotions used to unimaginably confuse me, but I think I know myself better now and I can finally use all that creatively. I see it as a gift now and not as a curse. I would also add that apart from my partners being somehow unavailable due to different kind of reasons, that is the way I like it and I can deal with, closeness pushes me away and I don't want to reveal myself to anyone completely, I need to keep a little of myself private. Lots of contradictions... I want to be with someone so badly, and if it does happen I do not want to be with them any more or I do, but I don't. I also want to help other people/animals, I love them, I can't bear any suffering, I try not to imagine someone's suffering, because the images cause me despair, so a block it. My partners are usually from different countries or are unusual somehow, and I myself moved to another country twice. Thank you for your video. Gia xx
+Gia J. Thank you for sharing-nothing you said sounds silly. You feel the energies and have experienced them in life. Join my Facebook groups and connect with others with similar placements: www.8and12houses.com/home
I absolutely love your explanation of 12th and 8th house. I have 12th house in Sun, Venus, and Mercury. 8th house in Mars, Pluto, Saturn, and Jupiter (although it’s on a cusp so sometimes it reads as 9th house). I find you assessment of Venus in 12th house to be completely accurate, I have only been in love with men I couldn’t have, emotionally unavailable, or relationship had to be secret in some way. My heart has been broken by all of them. I’m currently with someone now and I feel like he is not permanent although I want him to be. I want to be in love! And being creative, attractive, or protected doesn’t seem to be a fair exchange when you constantly are being broken. I’m trying to find the positive in a love aspect with this house and Learning to accept my fate.
Jovee1982 Thank you for sharing with me- greatly appreciate it 🌹💙 Our wounds are often by those we loved the most and often it’s a one sided love and we idealize these people who are actually selfish and opportunists We have to love our selves first and see others clearly
You have exact placement as I do..... Freaking rough in love!!! That 12th house tho! You described my life to a tee! Probably the most relatable comment I've ever came across
Never had a secret love affair but mostly in love with people from afar. Venus in Aqua in the 12th, ascendant in Aqua. Mars in Virgo in 7th… I’ve given up on being in love in the 3rd dimension. Mostly struggle with boundaries and giving too much love. To me Venus in 12th is boundless love but not being reciprocated; too high standards and completely rejected being loved at some point after a multitude of disappointments.
AWESOMESHEWOLF Thank you :) Please join me in my astrology groups on Facebook. The 12th Astrological House, Astrology & The Houses 101, The Eighth (8th) Astrological House.
Yep...it's true and I'm doomed. Everything that's been mentioned is true for me...feminity, fragility, creativity, emotional, lots of self-examination and spirituality...secrecy, self- delusion. I have also had more love than most (sane) women would ever dream of. I am Taurus with Cancer rising, with Venus conjunct North node in the 12 house of Gemini...opposite moon in Sagittarius...and loving seems to be very easy for me, but for a relationship to last, I need a deep spiritual connection to maintain any emotional closeness. I was married for 31 years and during that time I was broken hearted. I needed a soulmate, but my husband couldn't be that for me. Early on, I had one secret affair of the heart with my Sunday School teacher/employer which nearly drove me crazy...and later I had four real affairs which broke my heart, too. I have been told, and it seems to be true, there is something about me that attracts men like a magnet... something unconscious...like openess, sweetness and kindness, all tied together with sensuality (aka, no boundaries)...which seems like a 12th house Venutian curse to me. Since my divorce I've been working on healing a very traumatic childhood and the resulting poor emotional regulation I have (C-PSTD) from those relationships. Does anyone know if Bipolar and BPD are common with this Venutian aspect?
It is not sweetness drawing men to you. As you just admitted you had several affairs, so clearly you are not a sweet person. If these men really liked you, they wouldn’t have left you. What attracts these men to you is that you have no moral compass and are entirely self deluded, so you are an easy lay. This is one of the most delusional placements and you just proved that correct.
Carmen, u have shared my life, whether some see as postive or negative. I am restless and exhausted from seeking the Spiritual partner. I start to shut my heart and yes I have enough of pain and heartaches not only Venus in 12th. I am losing hope in life too.
Hi Michelle, Thank you for sharing. Do not give up. We are resilient warriors who are meant to love in a higher spiritual way, not material love or earthly way. Most people don't understand the depth of our love. Hang in there. Join my 12th house Astrology FB group :)
Venus in 12th house gemini and i found my twinflame during my spiritual awakening and married him in 3 years after dating and now expecting a baby boy and also he is an artist and musician...don't worry i found one and happily living with him now doing charity works and all...
Cancer Sun in 2nd House Sagittarius Moon in 7th House Gemini Rising Venus in Taurus in 12th House Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn in the 8th House. I'll be 26 this year and never have I been in a relationship. It's so painful to be alone, but I've found a peace at being alone as it puts my mind to ease. I just hope I find that guy or even girl who knows my mind and can gauge me beyond the surface to stop me dead in my tracks on my journey of being alone. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
12th house sun conj ven, both in Aq both trine Ur. Same-sex married to Virgo Sun 12th house husband 13 years. Noone gets us but I would (cue Meatloaf) do anything for love. Tempted to cheat during a crisis and did not do so even though he would have never known; I would have. Tempted several other times but praise God I never gave in. My husband is kind and honorable (and gorgeous !) and I just ultimately couldn't betray him for any reason . Needed to be able to look him in the eyes and have truth.
Thanks for the video. I have Venus in Pisces 12th House at 26 degrees very close to the highest exaltation point of 27 degrees, and it's also in the first house cusp. You are quite accurate with your description :)
+Ankit Bisht .. Oh dont think of me as crazy or stalkerish lol.. but i just searched your profile on fb as it was v intriguing Venus in 12th that too in Pisces.. wooh i always wanted to met someone with that alignment. I looked at your chart n it was quite interesting. I am New to astrology and its not just a fascinating science but also have given me a lot of answers for lot of domains of my life.. Kindly do not think i have some alternate motive here.. My intentions are pure.. :) :)
+Astha Bansal thanks for your comment :) and that's what social media profiles are for, aren't they? ;) how did you look at my chart though, just curious.
This makes me so sad that I can no longerbe with the person I love. The more I look into astrology the more knowledge I gain and I know it's not meant to last, he was that "one secret love". It's bittersweet because I know there is someone out there that could love me better but it sucks cuz I know it's best not to work on things but to just move on 😞
Jennay Gump thank you for sharing You deserve a love in the open and someone who gives as much as you This placement is for learning and you deserve to find a true open relationship where you can be yourself
I really like a guy with Venus, Mercury, And Sun in the 12th but I feel like maybe he is dating other people which is fine because we never had that convo and it’s also very early. I like him sooo much already and it’s only been two weeks I feel like a crazy person! My moon is in 12th
Libra sun and rising with Mercury and Venus in Virgo in 12th house dealing with a Capricorn sun who is already in a long term committed relationship with somebody else. It's an affair. Everything you said truly resonated with me.
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Carmen, thank you! I recently became interested in astrology. As a Christian to some this is taboo. I have a stellium in the 12th house, I am a Chaplain and trying to figure out my personal life I felt cursed. Now, everything makes sense but I don’t want to see this as a curse but instead a cause. Thanks for all the information.
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My husband has a virgo venus in the 12th he also has several different personality disorders. Because of the personality disorders and maybe the fact that I have my sun and several other planets in the 8th. I can see right through his " secret loves". However I think it's more because of his personality disorders and all his projections. I know when he has "secret" yearnings because he usually accuses me of " falling in love, having secret affairs etc.." Probably doesn't help that his aries mars is in the 8th. So he is definitely on the aggressive side when projecting. My venus in libra 9th is square his mars and we have alot of saturn and uranus square everything. It's a marriage from hell that Thanks to saturn I'm having a hell of time getting out of.
xkristyx7x x I'm so sorry to hear this- it is hard to change a Venus in 12th they have to stop living in fantasy and illusion I hope everything works out for you ❤
Yup. Ouch. Almost 60years old. Still nobody for me. 2 devastating short relationships many years ago. And 1 horribly unrequited one before that. I had resigned myself to bachelorhood, and have been looking to learn to truly love myself. It's been a long self relationship, and though it's been on the rocks recently, I know it's a lifetime commitment. Divorce is not in the cards. Conjunct ASC (-6°) in Sagittarius. Near Antares. My Mars in Cancer doesn't help.
Bojana - Thank you for your kind words. I have Facebook groups love for you to join The 12th Astrological House group I run and 8th House Deep Soul Divers Group and Astrology & The Houses 101. :) Carmen
I love your videos, now I understand my love to God and Universe. Hm, that about soulmate is so true, actually everything you said is spot on... North node, Jupiter, Moon, Pluto in the 7th in scorpio, I hope that I'll find mine... Btw I'm also crystal child! Greetings :)
Yes, there was 1 secret love affair, but with that said, I hated every aspect of it, the behind the scenes, the meeting places..........................ugh. It will never happen again.
FWIW, a few caveats. I have my Ascendant lord (Saturn) right on my 12th house cusp (late Sagittarius) in opposition to my 7th lord (Moon) in the 6th in late Gemini. While my natal Venus does have a positive aspect to my natal Mars (sextile), my natal Venus is also in my 12th house (in Capricorn) while my natal Mars is in my 10th in Scorpio. You'd think w/ the strong Mars placement by sign and house as well as the positive aspect between it and Venus it'd make for an easier time. It doesn't. It amps this shit up to 11. Every single relationship I have been in I get stuck with one of two outcomes : A)the woman doesn't actually have sexual feelings for me and just wants to milk me for money OR B)the woman ONLY has sexual feelings for me and just wants to use me to cheat on her current significant other. And she usually has some pretty aggressive fantasies to put it lightly that could put me in jail if she ever "regretted" it after the fact. Because of this insane bipolar attitude towards sex I get from every woman I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with, I've sadly had to keep my notch count fairly low (albeit still non-zero) out of fear for where it could land me. Short and sweet : there is no good point to this placement. Anyone telling you otherwise is just trying to fill your head with feel good bullshit. I have no idea what the hell I did in past lives, but I guarantee you whatever gods may be are doing their damnedest to punish me for it in this one. I feel like the dog who gets the shit kicked out of him by his owner for tearing up a couch cushion 10 hours after the fact when they've already forgotten what they did and don't even know why they're being punished. And I promise you as much as I admire good art, I'm absolutely shit terrible at making it however much I've actually read, tried, and failed at doing so.
Thank you for sharing- I was criticized for writing an article about this years ago that some thought was negative Please check out my article on Venus 12 I have this placement and I agree it sucks Karmic relationships and I often say same what did I do to these people in past to be punished so greatly with heartache with love Those I loved the most always have betrayed me, even after I forgave them they came back and did same thing and healing from that has been a lifelong process Hang in here it will get better I had to learn to have strong boundaries and look at red flags with people before letting them into my life I would only see the good and ignore the bad that I felt was there bc of love The heart never listens www.8and12houses.com
@@CarmenTurnerSchott I can't say I'm surprised at the criticism. I've generally come to realize that people don't like bad news even if it can spare them future pain by giving it to them. I believe this is a problem with modern astrology specifically. I may disagree with Frawley on some of his analysis of specific horary problems, but he's dead on about modern astrology feeling this ridiculous need to put a "good" spin on all the houses. Yes, derived houses are a thing, and I'm sure there's an horary question about a positive thing that would fall into the 12th house. That said, it's not called the House of Bad Spirit for no reason. I challenge any of these people who criticize you for the honest presentation of this topic to go read what the ancients like Vettius Valens or others like him have to say about Venus in the 12th or Venus in Capricorn. It's not pretty, they're spot on, and no amount of belief in political correctness is going to move the stars. Thanks for being genuine.
Well... That was so accurate it hurts! I'm 24 now and I have been in 4 romantic relationships, all of them ended because one of is was moving away, sometime me, sometimes my companion. I never had the experience of breaking up because love was over, it is always an inevitable choice, where we just have to let go. );
Stephanie Rend Thank you for sharing. It can get better and I believe that there is good things that can come from this placement :) Please join my 12th house astrology group on FB. You can find all my astrology groups on my website www.8and12houses.com/home :)
I am dating someone with Venus in the 12th. He is a coworker. We have been dating for a couple months. Due to work circumstances, it isnt allowed. So our dating life is a secret. This obviously fits with his placement. Does this mean we are not meant to be?
I don't think that you all not ready when you have Moon involved and conjunct Venus in the 12th house Cancer closed to the ascendant Cancer. Its so bad that it's destroying my life.
Halfers 83 I’m so sorry - there are blessings with 12th House planets as well and many good things that can happen too It’s emotional karma and difficulties we often face that makes us stronger but we have to protect ourselves from others who like to use and abuse us Having strong boundaries is key and knowing who is truly loyal to us I used to see with rose colored glasses a few people I loved who were deceptive and opportunists never truly loves me I had deep wounds from them I still am healing after years! It’s a process Stay strong
Then the Soul with Venus in H12 should recognize they are with someone who is capable of loving them deeply or their wouldn’t have been attracted to them initially instead of being “ addicted “ to clandestine affairs which gives them an adrenaline rush and continues their delusions. In addition, many addictions are seen in this house placement with Venus desiring the senses to be filled for self gratification and selfish reasons, rather than understanding giving selflessly to a partner who desires the same is exalting the marriage or relationship. Venus in house 12 creates Karma and destroys the partner through betrayal: addictions sexual and drugs, porn addiction,
thank you for your post. I am a very spiritual person and was really beginning to like a girl with venus in 12th. Didnt realize she was fickle minded and had affairs with married men. I had to ditch my feelings and move on.
+Kristina Hrnjak I am glad you felt it helpful. Please join my Facebook groups if you have not already, you can find them on my website on the right hand side (12th house group, 8th house group and a Astrology and the Houses 101 group) www.8and12houses.com/home
marmary Hi! Yes. You have a guardian angel watching over you and Venus brings creativity, imagination, beauty, peaceful nature and spirituality. Writing abilities as well. :) www.8and12houses.com/home
Carmen Turner-Schott woaw thanks for the link. Luckily I have 3rd house and 1st house stelliums. They overshadow the 12th house. That Cancer Venus is like an isolated entity in my chart. It seems as if it doesn't belong there. I wish I had more luck in my love life
Carmen Turner-Schott your description is just SPOT ON. I've never read a better description of Venus/12th house before. Every word you've written seemed to be taken from my own life experiences. I'm literally sobbing after reading it because you've described this so well. I fully acknowledge it. I just wish I had better luck in love. Love is the most important thing in life. It is the meaning of life itself. And it seems as 12th house Venuses, despite having guardian angels, will always suffer from love. That's the reason why some of us either pretend it isn't there or we keep it secret because we don't like suffering from it. I wish there was a way to make it stop! The more I read about it, the more desolating it sounds. As if there were no solutions to this curse. Because no matter how much I understand this placement, I now see it as a curse. As if I'm domed to fail in love and I'm domed to misery. It's really devastating having this awful placement...
marmary Thank you for sharing. I know exactly how you feel as I have Venus in 12th. Love is so important to people like us and we need a spiritual love and connection- something deep, pure, real and everlasting. Something on a soul level, which is why it's hard to find this. I have come to believe that this placement's purpose is to make the native love God first and put a human before that. It is similar to 12th house Sun which I have as well. I had to be spiritual and when I put that first everything is better in my life. If I neglect that, its painful. Loving someone you can't have or where the situation is not possible etc. is part of t his energy. It will happen at some time. I do know a lot of people who are married or dating and very happy who have this placement so I think we need to look at your entire chart to see. This placement alone is not a dead love sentence.. I promise you. Join my Facebook groups Astrology & The Houses 101, The 12th Astrological House, The 8th Eighth Astrological House Deep Soul Divers.
Not sure what is happening. Some people tell me this others can hear it fine? I only know the volume on the computer and on the youtube must be turned up. I don't know what to say... only some have said this to me. www.8and12houses.com
This is very true, i always find myself liking people that are already married :/ I'm a girl and almost 19 years old and i always liked older guys, even around 40. This sounds weird to most people and i don't have any father issues at all, but since i was little i always liked older guys then myself and of course they were married and probably had children. My venus is in virgo in 12th house, does this have anything to do with it?
That is a powerful conjunction It intensifies the transformational experiences that you find through love and relationships 🌹 I am writing a book about the 8th and 12th together it won’t be released for awhile I am still writing it I have not written about this conjunction yet but here is an article I found insightastrology.net/current-transits/pluto-conjunct-venus-transit/
Tips would be to become your own soul mate first and find a partner who balances you - you need affection, respect, and to feel appreciated in love Watch my newest videos on Venus in 12th I give tips and more info lessons learned this is my first ever video on it ❤️🌹
Jupiter is a blessing there I think this helps but you are very generous and may feel others take advantage of your giving loving nature at times. www.8and12houses.com
I hate the 12th house 😢😐 but your review is spot on. For me it's worse cause my venus is in Leo in the 12th house..... I need love and I can't get it 😕
I am confused wth my placements since I don't know the exact time of my birth my Venus was either in the 11th or 12th since my parents inky remember some few hints of my birth time.... I don't hide my relationships but I am lucky I meet partners who are loving and kind I just pushed them away before coz I had trust issues towards them since I meet my partners mostly through Social Media, I did met some partner back then because of friends, and sometimes people misjudged my loving nature in a bad way and I just get SURPRISE when I am kind and loving yet others comments bad on me which happens a lot, but in romance I mostly never had a private one I even post about my relationships a lot and write poets about it I'm Venus in Libra. I only had one bad relationship with a narcissistic Taurus, I was kind and loving with him but he really doesn't changed I left him and found a better man.
+Anne Cooper It has to do with your computer. You have to have both volumes turned up. Most people can hear it but a few have had same problem - Visit my website for the video too and see if that helps with both volumes turned up www.8and12houses.com/home
the first person i fell in love with was a sociopath, now i know why lol, now i just pretend my modern astrology chart doesnt exist and follow my vedic chart where im venus in 1st. denial
I also had this problem but once I found out what kind of men I attract (liars, cheaters, men who are taken, con artist and don't want to commit) I just set boundaries and let them know this is how I am and this is what I'm looking for. If you're not with it goodbye. Just as simple as that. Twelfth house have no restrictions that's why it's important to set limits and see situations for how they really are before getting deeply involved with someone.
Thank you for sharing- so true and insightful
It's a learning lesson and once we learn we soar
So true. It is a spiritual journey of self awareness and learning to listen to our intuition.
marcateyes87 , I agree with you 100%..
marcateyes87 oh dear so true.. likewise.. and I've been so naive that i dint even know or accept the truth.
this is my Vedic natal placement and i am a woman sub here first time. This placement has me feeling doomed and hopeless. My self love is more important to me than looking for something outside myself. Ive suffered many many heartbreaks and now enough is enough. Its now time for a relationship with and for myself by myself. I dont believe in 'soulmates, twin flames' and i am now happy being alone, single & celibate by choice forever. Rx Venus Pisces 12H
Hi- thank you for sharing. Please watch my newest videos of Venus in 12th, I give many positive tips
My BF has Venus Taurus in 12th. Is a musician with many artistic talents - writing poetry, color, a good sense of fashion, interior decorating, etc. Forbidden affairs -for sure. Part of the lure of that is if u love someone u can't have you do not risk direct rejections, abandonment or heartache. They just aren't available. Its the flip side of the issue. You are quite right about their not declaring their deep feelings first. They lure u in and wait for you to say u love them first. Also, in searching for a soul mate these people tend to put the object of their desire on a pedestal when they wish from afar. They can be let down when the reality doesn't live up to the illusion. Complicated placement but I agree are very loyal, deeply committed and passionate once they find someone to love them back. Thanks for this video. It is RIGHT ON!
Victoria Sieger Thank you for sharing 🌹
this is a painful position for me , all my relationship have been painful I try my best to love regardless of the situation and gets hurt so badly the men's lie nonstop and iam forgiving person , but emotional release is important for us Venus in 12th house, I will be honest and say mostly all the men's I attract are unavailable men's like married, commitment issues,abusers, lier's, cheaters ,men's who bring nothing but troubles and I finally understand this placement now I will rather be alone then be in an relationship with any man , and I told people this ,people who I don't want always try to convince me to date them ,iam shy,introverted person who never will have the guts to openly express how I feel to consider to date a man , I do daydream alot and not accept the reality of the situation which is so so painful .may God bless us Venus in 12th , thank you so much for this upload this resonate 100% and more. Blessing to you
shower Divine Don't give up
Being aware of the karma and energy will help- loving yourself first and having healthy boundaries and a spiritual connection is important for us and then we can attract the right people
But we always will love those with pain and attract those who need us
We just have to know ourself and that we feel s deeply is not personal love but our empathic nature to feel others pain which feels like love
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If moon there too
Interesting video. I have Venus in Taurus in 12th. I was very shy when I was younger and I avoided love relationships with people even though I liked them.
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Carmen Turner-Schott I dont use Facebook, sorry!
Vicar Kudo that's okay. I understand that.
Many celebrities have this placement because they have no other choice but to have secret relationships hidden form the public. Those who have this placement are not doomed in relationships. They can find love but it can be hidden or secret relationships. For example, in some cases someone who is in love with a person of different religion may have to hide. Someone who is homosexual may want to hide his/her relationships from the family, etc. Someone can be in love with a person who lives far away, etc. So, it does not prevent love. It makes it a little more challenging but not impossible. Also it depends on the sign where Venus is in and aspects. Having Venus in other houses is not always better. Some aspects are really a pain in the butt. Like Venus conjunction Saturn, etc. I have Venus conjunct Saturn and I can tell you that it is not pleasant either. So, for anyone with Venus in 12th house, there is hope!
Will Prat I agree. It manifests in so many ways.
Carmen Turner-Schott I'm a Sagittarius rising, lol. I am optimistic :-).
That is great!
I always feel like I'll never be able to find love with this placement. That I'll never be with my soulmate or twin flame because I'm just cursed.
Hi! You are not cursed. This placement has many beautiful blessings of creativity and protection as well from harm. Love is our learning and we grow through heartache- join me in my FB astrology groups. You can find them on 8and12houses.com/home
Venus in 12th is the Venus in pieces energy. It’s exalted. You will find your partner .but u will be rejected couple of times first. Then ur will find them. It will take time and hanging on. Venus in pieces will bring it to u .
Amanitaaish Aish Well what does it mean when you have a Venus in Virgo (fall) in the 12th house (exalted Pisces energy)? It seems like no matter where I look in my chart I have the negative expression of everything.
@@winter_s_44 according to vedic astrology, when it comes to weightage of seeing what's happening with a planet with respect to house and Zodiac, house 50%, zodiac 25%, aspect 25% weightage. nakshatra give the direction. Zodiac gives it personality and house gives the push. like u said venus in 12th is venus exalted. Venus will being you what u want here cuz this is like venus in 12th house of original house of pieces. So u want deep / philosophical connection. Venus in virgo zodiac will also look for something practical and realistic Cuz venus here is forced to deal with Mercuryian things like energy of 3rd house and 6th house. U must see the mercury position. How it's placed and Which houses venus is ruling to understand full picture Cuz there r various possibilities.
Amanitaaish Aish Thank you! I am very much a novice in this. Would there be any way you would be able to take a look at my chart and give me more insight? I really don’t have anyone to help explain and no one ever helps me on forums or anything. I am dealing with a difficult chart and am trying to not give up all hope on life. Any help you could provide would be most appreciated.
All through high-school, I've had these 'secret ' somethings. Where it was all in for the time it was but won't let anyone or anybody know about it. So when it ended..there's no 'evidence ' or any sort of history except the one in memories.
Awww, it's so me!
So true! I have Venus conjunct my AC in Taurus/12th and have always been in love with LOVE! I am a singer, violinist, actress, dancer, and visual artist too!! Once, when I was in my bedroom practicing my singing (age 18-ish), I stopped in the middle of a song and exclaimed to the Universe that the ONLY thing I wanted from this life was to find my one true love!!! My third boyfriend became my now husband of 30-years...he is my soulmate! 💗💗💗
Shauna I love this! Venus there blesses you with beauty, artistic and creative abilities
Love too ❤️🌹
Venus in the 12th and Venus in Pisces here. The thing that have always interested me is this aspect that I have: Venus conjunct the ascendant. I would love a video about it.
You have the most beautiful placement 😔 literally
I have the same Venus.. 12th house but literally on the last degree. The sign is Aquarius and it is conjunct the ascendant. Not much info about this…
true im very understanding of other peoples pain and loyal.
Your voice....is sooo calming and relaxing that it made me sleepy😊👌🏻✨ You're like my ASMR without even trying :D lol. But yes! I AGREEE! Venus in 12th does well and need a spiritual partner. I loved someone that was pisces sun and Venus and he was so wise, intellectual and spiritual. We agreed on a lot and thinked the same way to a degree, I miss him all the time, and I doubt I'll meet someone like him again :/I've secretly had crushes on people from my past, but never told them, cuz I was super shy. I'm still shy but not like my past. My Venus is in libra in the 12th house but also on the 1st house cusp! 😊 Loved the video, I saw nothing negative that was said about this placement, like no anger from me. You're just speaking the truth, so it was fine and fair 😊❤️
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i have my sun and venus in the 12th house. my venus is pisces. this is very true. i fell in love with this girl at work who loved me too, we had an emotional affair for 3 years and she was engaged and couldn't tell me. her parents arranged it before she met me. it was awful. she denied everything seeing as we never dated. i still feel like we are twin flames. i've had so many psychic moments. it's unbelievable.
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Jordana Bove can completely understand dear.. exalted Venus that too in 12th..!! you are made to Love ppl.......
My sun and venus (which is in retrograde) is in the twelfth house. Venus in Gemini. Her accuracy almost frigtenend me lol!
Can understand you. ❤ believe you.
Omg it's so true. I've been bed ridden the past week my chest hurts so bad from the past ten years physically. I have got the biggest walls up. You described this so well
I have my venus in the 12th house (Virgo here). My first kiss was with a guy I met that already had a girlfriend. That was years ago. Now I think I love a friend but he also already has a girlfriend. And I've realized through out my life I've always love guys but in secret, never have I manifest my love, I've always loved them in some kind of fantasy of mine. So I truly connect with my venus in the 12th. Hopefully, one day I'll be able to love someone loudly and rightfully.
lol and i'm 20 I talk as if I was 30+
Sounds like I'm doomed
No your not doomed-just have to learn to love yourself and not allow yourself to be in unhealthy relationships with people that have problems and you are rescuer
I'm trying. It's great to know I'm not alone. 12th house placements are difficult. Sun, Venus, Mercury, and Jupiter are all in the 12th house
Samee
@@Racquel822 same😭
Leo Venus in 12th house , I always think that I probably will never have that "true love" or will never meet them in my life 😔😂
HEY STOB IT thank you for sharing and you will! But first must learn the lesson of this placement
We have to love ourselves first
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Spot on! Everything you said. Venus in 12th in Pisces. Artistic in many ways, but struggled with expressing it until now, secretive in love, loving and suffering in secret, not revealing myself before the other does, spiritual. Forever searching for a spiritual kind of connection. I feel people's emotions deeply, when I was younger I often absorbed someone else's pain and thought that it was my own.
In particular I suffered in a silent connection with a classmate, it sounds silly, but I knew/felt his emotions, there was some kind of block between us, and when we were close to meeting again years later and discussing it, he never made it to the meeting, he committed suicide, I found out later that he was bipolar, and all those emotions I got from him were connected to his illness.
My emotions used to unimaginably confuse me, but I think I know myself better now and I can finally use all that creatively. I see it as a gift now and not as a curse.
I would also add that apart from my partners being somehow unavailable due to different kind of reasons, that is the way I like it and I can deal with, closeness pushes me away and I don't want to reveal myself to anyone completely, I need to keep a little of myself private. Lots of contradictions... I want to be with someone so badly, and if it does happen I do not want to be with them any more or I do, but I don't.
I also want to help other people/animals, I love them, I can't bear any suffering, I try not to imagine someone's suffering, because the images cause me despair, so a block it.
My partners are usually from different countries or are unusual somehow, and I myself moved to another country twice. Thank you for your video. Gia xx
+Gia J. Thank you for sharing-nothing you said sounds silly. You feel the energies and have experienced them in life. Join my Facebook groups and connect with others with similar placements: www.8and12houses.com/home
I absolutely love your explanation of 12th and 8th house. I have 12th house in Sun, Venus, and Mercury. 8th house in Mars, Pluto, Saturn, and Jupiter (although it’s on a cusp so sometimes it reads as 9th house). I find you assessment of Venus in 12th house to be completely accurate, I have only been in love with men I couldn’t have, emotionally unavailable, or relationship had to be secret in some way. My heart has been broken by all of them. I’m currently with someone now and I feel like he is not permanent although I want him to be. I want to be in love! And being creative, attractive, or protected doesn’t seem to be a fair exchange when you constantly are being broken. I’m trying to find the positive in a love aspect with this house and Learning to accept my fate.
Jovee1982 Thank you for sharing with me- greatly appreciate it 🌹💙 Our wounds are often by those we loved the most and often it’s a one sided love and we idealize these people who are actually selfish and opportunists
We have to love our selves first and see others clearly
You have exact placement as I do..... Freaking rough in love!!! That 12th house tho! You described my life to a tee! Probably the most relatable comment I've ever came across
I too have venus conjunct mars in the 12th house on ascendant ....I have loved people that have not been free to love me..
Never had a secret love affair but mostly in love with people from afar. Venus in Aqua in the 12th, ascendant in Aqua. Mars in Virgo in 7th…
I’ve given up on being in love in the 3rd dimension. Mostly struggle with boundaries and giving too much love. To me Venus in 12th is boundless love but not being reciprocated; too high standards and completely rejected being loved at some point after a multitude of disappointments.
@@asathora1819 love from afar definitely fits the energy of this placement too
Thank you for sharing
Boundaries was my biggest learning 🌹
So true! I have Venus in Aquarius in the 12th house.
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i have this too venus in aquarius
Aries Sun and Mercury, Taurus Venus all in the 12th. You nailed it. People with these placements fail into denial about how it can manifest.
Fabulous explanation with deep logic ,it truly resonates all that you have said as I have experienced with a 12th ven in gemini
This has happened to me more times than I can remember.
Yep...it's true and I'm doomed. Everything that's been mentioned is true for me...feminity, fragility, creativity, emotional, lots of self-examination and spirituality...secrecy, self- delusion. I have also had more love than most (sane) women would ever dream of.
I am Taurus with Cancer rising, with Venus conjunct North node in the 12 house of Gemini...opposite moon in Sagittarius...and loving seems to be very easy for me, but for a relationship to last, I need a deep spiritual connection to maintain any emotional closeness.
I was married for 31 years and during that time I was broken hearted. I needed a soulmate, but my husband couldn't be that for me. Early on, I had one secret affair of the heart with my Sunday School teacher/employer which nearly drove me crazy...and later I had four real affairs which broke my heart, too.
I have been told, and it seems to be true, there is something about me that attracts men like a magnet... something unconscious...like openess, sweetness and kindness, all tied together with sensuality (aka, no boundaries)...which seems like a 12th house Venutian curse to me.
Since my divorce I've been working on healing a very traumatic childhood and the resulting poor emotional regulation I have (C-PSTD) from those relationships. Does anyone know if Bipolar and BPD are common with this Venutian aspect?
It is not sweetness drawing men to you. As you just admitted you had several affairs, so clearly you are not a sweet person. If these men really liked you, they wouldn’t have left you. What attracts these men to you is that you have no moral compass and are entirely self deluded, so you are an easy lay. This is one of the most delusional placements and you just proved that correct.
Everything you said about Venus and 12 house and sun omg it’s all 💯 true I love how you explain things
Carmen, u have shared my life, whether some see as postive or negative. I am restless and exhausted from seeking the Spiritual partner. I start to shut my heart and yes I have enough of pain and heartaches not only Venus in 12th. I am losing hope in life too.
Hi Michelle, Thank you for sharing. Do not give up. We are resilient warriors who are meant to love in a higher spiritual way, not material love or earthly way. Most people don't understand the depth of our love. Hang in there. Join my 12th house Astrology FB group :)
I loved how you discussed this topic you have fulfilled my curiosity.
So nobody will commit to us? We'll be searching and searching?
Abigail Holomah only when we find the right person and when we put ourselves and spirit first
@@CarmenTurnerSchott i dont believe there is a 'right person' people are imperfect
Thank you my dear. You have a such a loving voice. Yes i have debilitated saturn venus and rahu in 12 house.
Venus in 12th house gemini and i found my twinflame during my spiritual awakening and married him in 3 years after dating and now expecting a baby boy and also he is an artist and musician...don't worry i found one and happily living with him now doing charity works and all...
Thank you for sharing this wonderful story ❤️🌹
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@@CarmenTurnerSchott wooowww....how do you even know that i am an eight house person too i have many planets in 12th and 8th house😍🙏🙏
@@quero7245 many with one have some in both :)
I do too
Howard Sasportos as written abrilliant book about this called ..The twelve houses ..hes goes into depth of all the houses
My Venus in the 12th house trines my Uranus in the 8th house... everything you said and more...
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Cancer Sun in 2nd House
Sagittarius Moon in 7th House
Gemini Rising
Venus in Taurus in 12th House
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn in the 8th House.
I'll be 26 this year and never have I been in a relationship. It's so painful to be alone, but I've found a peace at being alone as it puts my mind to ease. I just hope I find that guy or even girl who knows my mind and can gauge me beyond the surface to stop me dead in my tracks on my journey of being alone. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
12th house sun conj ven, both in Aq both trine Ur. Same-sex married to Virgo Sun 12th house husband 13 years. Noone gets us but I would (cue Meatloaf) do anything for love. Tempted to cheat during a crisis and did not do so even though he would have never known; I would have. Tempted several other times but praise God I never gave in. My husband is kind and honorable (and gorgeous !) and I just ultimately couldn't betray him for any reason . Needed to be able to look him in the eyes and have truth.
So true! Beautifully said. Loving self and having divine connection is most important 🙏
Thanks for the video. I have Venus in Pisces 12th House at 26 degrees very close to the highest exaltation point of 27 degrees, and it's also in the first house cusp. You are quite accurate with your description :)
+Ankit Bisht Thank you for writing. I am glad that you liked it.
+Ankit Bisht .. Oh dont think of me as crazy or stalkerish lol.. but i just searched your profile on fb as it was v intriguing Venus in 12th that too in Pisces.. wooh i always wanted to met someone with that alignment. I looked at your chart n it was quite interesting. I am New to astrology and its not just a fascinating science but also have given me a lot of answers for lot of domains of my life.. Kindly do not think i have some alternate motive here.. My intentions are pure.. :) :)
+Astha Bansal thanks for your comment :) and that's what social media profiles are for, aren't they? ;) how did you look at my chart though, just curious.
+Ankit Bisht common.. You really need to ask that. are you sure you from Stephens. . it dint took me even 5 mins to see everything.
+Ankit Bisht n dude your rahu is in the same house.. :O
This makes me so sad that I can no longerbe with the person I love. The more I look into astrology the more knowledge I gain and I know it's not meant to last, he was that "one secret love". It's bittersweet because I know there is someone out there that could love me better but it sucks cuz I know it's best not to work on things but to just move on 😞
Jennay Gump thank you for sharing
You deserve a love in the open and someone who gives as much as you
This placement is for learning and you deserve to find a true open relationship where you can be yourself
I really like a guy with Venus, Mercury, And Sun in the 12th but I feel like maybe he is dating other people which is fine because we never had that convo and it’s also very early. I like him sooo much already and it’s only been two weeks I feel like a crazy person! My moon is in 12th
How did it go? I have my Venus, Mercury, Sun and NN in the 12th house, just curious
oh dear Lord.. when will this mess end..!! such an amazing video so true.
Libra sun and rising with Mercury and Venus in Virgo in 12th house dealing with a Capricorn sun who is already in a long term committed relationship with somebody else. It's an affair. Everything you said truly resonated with me.
Thanks for your interpretation, I have the Sun Venus Chiron & Lilith in Scorpio 12th house with Pluto in the 1st house 😅
Venus in the 12th with Scorpio has not been easy :’)
Holly Eden 🌹💙
I was blessed with talents venus conjunct with asc and mercury.
Yes I have creative abilities and many heartbreaks.
Okay, you have just said my whole life.
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Carmen, thank you! I recently became interested in astrology. As a Christian to some this is taboo. I have a stellium in the 12th house, I am a Chaplain and trying to figure out my personal life I felt cursed. Now, everything makes sense but I don’t want to see this as a curse but instead a cause. Thanks for all the information.
@@keishamatlock2008 Keisha - thank you so much for sharing
I struggled with same learning! I have a kindle book about my struggle as a christian who believes that God created astrology and the Bible is filled with astrological information
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My husband has a virgo venus in the 12th he also has several different personality disorders. Because of the personality disorders and maybe the fact that I have my sun and several other planets in the 8th. I can see right through his " secret loves". However I think it's more because of his personality disorders and all his projections. I know when he has "secret" yearnings because he usually accuses me of " falling in love, having secret affairs etc.." Probably doesn't help that his aries mars is in the 8th. So he is definitely on the aggressive side when projecting. My venus in libra 9th is square his mars and we have alot of saturn and uranus square everything. It's a marriage from hell that Thanks to saturn I'm having a hell of time getting out of.
xkristyx7x x I'm so sorry to hear this- it is hard to change a Venus in 12th they have to stop living in fantasy and illusion
I hope everything works out for you ❤
Yup. Ouch.
Almost 60years old. Still nobody for me. 2 devastating short relationships many years ago. And 1 horribly unrequited one before that. I had resigned myself to bachelorhood, and have been looking to learn to truly love myself. It's been a long self relationship, and though it's been on the rocks recently, I know it's a lifetime commitment. Divorce is not in the cards.
Conjunct ASC (-6°) in Sagittarius. Near Antares.
My Mars in Cancer doesn't help.
Spot on. Sooo accurate, it's uncanny.
Bojana - Thank you for your kind words. I have Facebook groups love for you to join The 12th Astrological House group I run and 8th House Deep Soul Divers Group and Astrology & The Houses 101. :) Carmen
I would if I had a Facebook account. Regardless, your videos are a great help, as I have my moon in the 12th house, too! :)
Bojana Vulicevic i don't have a facebook account either... i wish there were a google account for this
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Best explanation ever. Thanks.
I love your videos, now I understand my love to God and Universe. Hm, that about soulmate is so true, actually everything you said is spot on... North node, Jupiter, Moon, Pluto in the 7th in scorpio, I hope that I'll find mine... Btw I'm also crystal child! Greetings :)
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Amazing and very perfect prediction
Yes, there was 1 secret love affair, but with that said, I hated every aspect of it, the behind the scenes, the meeting places..........................ugh. It will never happen again.
Is there something good about this house? Is there any hope for being loved with a Venus in the 12th house?
Yes I made some newer videos about this placement you might like them on my channel 🌹❤️
@@CarmenTurnerSchott
I just found two of them, thank you 🦁 🙏
FWIW, a few caveats. I have my Ascendant lord (Saturn) right on my 12th house cusp (late Sagittarius) in opposition to my 7th lord (Moon) in the 6th in late Gemini. While my natal Venus does have a positive aspect to my natal Mars (sextile), my natal Venus is also in my 12th house (in Capricorn) while my natal Mars is in my 10th in Scorpio. You'd think w/ the strong Mars placement by sign and house as well as the positive aspect between it and Venus it'd make for an easier time. It doesn't. It amps this shit up to 11.
Every single relationship I have been in I get stuck with one of two outcomes :
A)the woman doesn't actually have sexual feelings for me and just wants to milk me for money OR
B)the woman ONLY has sexual feelings for me and just wants to use me to cheat on her current significant other.
And she usually has some pretty aggressive fantasies to put it lightly that could put me in jail if she ever "regretted" it after the fact. Because of this insane bipolar attitude towards sex I get from every woman I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with, I've sadly had to keep my notch count fairly low (albeit still non-zero) out of fear for where it could land me. Short and sweet : there is no good point to this placement. Anyone telling you otherwise is just trying to fill your head with feel good bullshit. I have no idea what the hell I did in past lives, but I guarantee you whatever gods may be are doing their damnedest to punish me for it in this one. I feel like the dog who gets the shit kicked out of him by his owner for tearing up a couch cushion 10 hours after the fact when they've already forgotten what they did and don't even know why they're being punished. And I promise you as much as I admire good art, I'm absolutely shit terrible at making it however much I've actually read, tried, and failed at doing so.
Thank you for sharing- I was criticized for writing an article about this years ago that some thought was negative
Please check out my article on Venus 12
I have this placement and I agree it sucks
Karmic relationships and I often say same what did I do to these people in past to be punished so greatly with heartache with love
Those I loved the most always have betrayed me, even after I forgave them they came back and did same thing and healing from that has been a lifelong process
Hang in here it will get better
I had to learn to have strong boundaries and look at red flags with people before letting them into my life
I would only see the good and ignore the bad that I felt was there bc of love
The heart never listens
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I can't say I'm surprised at the criticism. I've generally come to realize that people don't like bad news even if it can spare them future pain by giving it to them. I believe this is a problem with modern astrology specifically. I may disagree with Frawley on some of his analysis of specific horary problems, but he's dead on about modern astrology feeling this ridiculous need to put a "good" spin on all the houses. Yes, derived houses are a thing, and I'm sure there's an horary question about a positive thing that would fall into the 12th house. That said, it's not called the House of Bad Spirit for no reason. I challenge any of these people who criticize you for the honest presentation of this topic to go read what the ancients like Vettius Valens or others like him have to say about Venus in the 12th or Venus in Capricorn. It's not pretty, they're spot on, and no amount of belief in political correctness is going to move the stars. Thanks for being genuine.
Well... That was so accurate it hurts! I'm 24 now and I have been in 4 romantic relationships, all of them ended because one of is was moving away, sometime me, sometimes my companion. I never had the experience of breaking up because love was over, it is always an inevitable choice, where we just have to let go. );
Stephanie Rend Thank you for sharing. It can get better and I believe that there is good things that can come from this placement :) Please join my 12th house astrology group on FB. You can find all my astrology groups on my website www.8and12houses.com/home :)
I am dating someone with Venus in the 12th. He is a coworker. We have been dating for a couple months. Due to work circumstances, it isnt allowed. So our dating life is a secret. This obviously fits with his placement. Does this mean we are not meant to be?
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Regardless of color,
The feelings are real....
Through life and its horror,
Love anchors its seal....
venus in capricorn in 12th house here
I have sun in the 12th house, and fallen to this energy many many times
nick edwars Thanks for sharing Nick ❤️
Seems pretty accurate Venus in Scorpio 12 house
Same here
I have Venus in 5th house many superficial options and what not.
I don't think that you all not ready when you have Moon involved and conjunct Venus in the 12th house Cancer closed to the ascendant Cancer. Its so bad that it's destroying my life.
Halfers 83 I’m so sorry - there are blessings with 12th House planets as well and many good things that can happen too
It’s emotional karma and difficulties we often face that makes us stronger but we have to protect ourselves from others who like to use and abuse us
Having strong boundaries is key and knowing who is truly loyal to us
I used to see with rose colored glasses a few people I loved who were deceptive and opportunists never truly loves me I had deep wounds from them I still am healing after years! It’s a process
Stay strong
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thanks for the confidence and same to you also. Question.......what sign compatible to Venus conjunct Moon in Cancer 12th house?
Can you attach a "link" to the article in the description of this video?
www.8and12houses.com/articles/secretloveaffairsandheartache
Then the Soul with Venus in H12 should recognize they are with someone who is capable of loving them deeply or their wouldn’t have been attracted to them initially instead of being “ addicted “ to clandestine affairs which gives them an adrenaline rush and continues their delusions. In addition, many addictions are seen in this house placement with Venus desiring the senses to be filled for self gratification and selfish reasons, rather than understanding giving selflessly to a partner who desires the same is exalting the marriage or relationship.
Venus in house 12 creates Karma and destroys the partner through betrayal: addictions sexual and drugs, porn addiction,
thank you for your post. I am a very spiritual person and was really beginning to like a girl with venus in 12th. Didnt realize she was fickle minded and had affairs with married men. I had to ditch my feelings and move on.
That was spot on 😳
+Kristina Hrnjak I am glad you felt it helpful. Please join my Facebook groups if you have not already, you can find them on my website on the right hand side (12th house group, 8th house group and a Astrology and the Houses 101 group) www.8and12houses.com/home
Please, tell me some day we can finally find mutual and approachable love😢
Is there ANYTHING positive with having Venus/12th house?!? I totally hate it. Totally.
marmary Hi! Yes. You have a guardian angel watching over you and Venus brings creativity, imagination, beauty, peaceful nature and spirituality. Writing abilities as well. :) www.8and12houses.com/home
Carmen Turner-Schott woaw thanks for the link. Luckily I have 3rd house and 1st house stelliums. They overshadow the 12th house. That Cancer Venus is like an isolated entity in my chart. It seems as if it doesn't belong there. I wish I had more luck in my love life
Carmen Turner-Schott your description is just SPOT ON. I've never read a better description of Venus/12th house before. Every word you've written seemed to be taken from my own life experiences. I'm literally sobbing after reading it because you've described this so well. I fully acknowledge it. I just wish I had better luck in love. Love is the most important thing in life. It is the meaning of life itself. And it seems as 12th house Venuses, despite having guardian angels, will always suffer from love. That's the reason why some of us either pretend it isn't there or we keep it secret because we don't like suffering from it. I wish there was a way to make it stop! The more I read about it, the more desolating it sounds. As if there were no solutions to this curse. Because no matter how much I understand this placement, I now see it as a curse. As if I'm domed to fail in love and I'm domed to misery. It's really devastating having this awful placement...
marmary Thank you for sharing. I know exactly how you feel as I have Venus in 12th. Love is so important to people like us and we need a spiritual love and connection- something deep, pure, real and everlasting. Something on a soul level, which is why it's hard to find this. I have come to believe that this placement's purpose is to make the native love God first and put a human before that. It is similar to 12th house Sun which I have as well. I had to be spiritual and when I put that first everything is better in my life. If I neglect that, its painful. Loving someone you can't have or where the situation is not possible etc. is part of t his energy. It will happen at some time. I do know a lot of people who are married or dating and very happy who have this placement so I think we need to look at your entire chart to see. This placement alone is not a dead love sentence.. I promise you. Join my Facebook groups Astrology & The Houses 101, The 12th Astrological House, The 8th Eighth Astrological House Deep Soul Divers.
You are awesome! Thank you
FYI: Really want to listen to your videos but the sound quality is so low as to be inaudible.
Not sure what is happening. Some people tell me this others can hear it fine? I only know the volume on the computer and on the youtube must be turned up. I don't know what to say... only some have said this to me.
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Yes...it's very low voice. Thank you for the video.
This is very true, i always find myself liking people that are already married :/
I'm a girl and almost 19 years old and i always liked older guys, even around 40. This sounds weird to most people and i don't have any father issues at all, but since i was little i always liked older guys then myself and of course they were married and probably had children. My venus is in virgo in 12th house, does this have anything to do with it?
Are you a Capricorn or have Cap energy on 7th? Capricorn is always drawn to older people... more mature.
@@CarmenTurnerSchott what about 7th house Taurus people? I have Taurus in my 7th house
Venus in virgo in the 12th square jupiter and pluto at 0° ...how bad can it get.
Venus in Virgo in 12th house🌺❤
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@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you. It says alot. May god bless your soul.😇💞🌷. Thank you for your kindness. Take care.
@@CarmenTurnerSchott I dont know why some people say that Venus in 12 house are bad i dont think that is so bad actully it is more a blessing.🌷
I have Venus in Sagittarius in 12th house.
Me too
I have some articles in my site about it and a new book coming out this summer about the 12th house 🌹❤️
Fantastic reading
Thank you for this information. I am looking for information on venus conjunct pluto on the 12th house
That is a powerful conjunction
It intensifies the transformational experiences that you find through love and relationships
🌹 I am writing a book about the 8th and 12th together it won’t be released for awhile I am still writing it I have not written about this conjunction yet but here is an article I found
insightastrology.net/current-transits/pluto-conjunct-venus-transit/
@@CarmenTurnerSchott thank you very much!
nice voice Carmen
Venus in Leo,in the 12 house...
Someone has any tips?
Tips would be to become your own soul mate first and find a partner who balances you - you need affection, respect, and to feel appreciated in love
Watch my newest videos on Venus in 12th I give tips and more info lessons learned this is my first ever video on it ❤️🌹
v beautifully told. Thankyou.
+Astha Bansal Thank you so much - happy you found it helpful
I have sun, moon, venus, and mercury in the 12th house.
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Carmen Turner-Schott I've planets in 8th H, 12th H, Scorpio and Pisces all these places..
din't understand how to join.. please tell..
My Cousin has this placement and his has had his fair share of hidden affairs with men.
Hello ma'am, I have Venus and Jupiter conjunction in 12th house ( Pisces ). What kind of results it will give?
Jupiter is a blessing there I think this helps but you are very generous and may feel others take advantage of your giving loving nature at times.
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I hate the 12th house 😢😐 but your review is spot on.
For me it's worse cause my venus is in Leo in the 12th house..... I need love and I can't get it 😕
Hi Carmen, You have got a lovely and soft voice however is it possible for you to keep the mic nearer as you speak bcoz the audio volume is very low
I want to get married and have kids so how do I fix this
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I am confused wth my placements since I don't know the exact time of my birth my Venus was either in the 11th or 12th since my parents inky remember some few hints of my birth time.... I don't hide my relationships but I am lucky I meet partners who are loving and kind I just pushed them away before coz I had trust issues towards them since I meet my partners mostly through Social Media, I did met some partner back then because of friends, and sometimes people misjudged my loving nature in a bad way and I just get SURPRISE when I am kind and loving yet others comments bad on me which happens a lot, but in romance I mostly never had a private one I even post about my relationships a lot and write poets about it I'm Venus in Libra. I only had one bad relationship with a narcissistic Taurus, I was kind and loving with him but he really doesn't changed I left him and found a better man.
Is this Vedic?
Scorpio Venus 12th house
I also have a Scorpio rising and a first house stellium
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Amazing
I wonder if it translates to a moon in 12th
It can - especially look at aspects to the Moon in 12th
I can barely hear you.
+Anne Cooper It has to do with your computer. You have to have both volumes turned up. Most people can hear it but a few have had same problem - Visit my website for the video too and see if that helps with both volumes turned up www.8and12houses.com/home
And what about if the venus in 12th house and the 12th house is Scorpio??
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I have 0 Degrees Venus in The Twelfth House .. My Great Karmic Love .. 💔
Shit.... Well, all I can really do is make good art then.
Elan' don't underestimate the power of art. I have pity for the poor folks who have tried to have a relationship with ME I'm just a tornado
Venus in Virgo in the 12th house I’m shy af
Me too Venus Virgo in 12th I am also Sun Virgo and Asc
You might like my website and my new book about the 12th house
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Venus in libra in 12, virgo sun, Taurus moon in 7, and libra rising. Sucks
I can't hear anything.
the first person i fell in love with was a sociopath, now i know why lol, now i just pretend my modern astrology chart doesnt exist and follow my vedic chart where im venus in 1st. denial