Thank the seven deities that the youtube search bar is right there at the top of the page, that is if you really want to learn how to solder. Thank you Ben for making all your amazing videos. Your humor is so delightfully dry so you even lured a famous Brit to comment. Hi Larry! :D
Heating the pad and contact is step one. You ideally want to do that heating from the back side, because you'll be applying the solder to the other side of it (left vs right), using the heat from the contact to melt the solder. In salute to Oddity Archive, I present this classic instructional video on how to properly solder: ua-cam.com/video/vIT4ra6Mo0s/v-deo.html
The led is shortet out !, when you solder hold the solder iron on to the spot where to solder at the same time aply some tin solder and the solder tin will melt right away and when there is enoug remove the iron and solder tin this goes fast ,and when you get use to it it's as easy as riding your bike :D.
As a former broadcast engineer, the best advice I can give you is this: Practice, practice and practice again...no matter how many times you burn the frak out of yourself. :)
That was me, in the Comp TIA class I met my SO. He handed me the gun, I grabbed the barrel, and I handed it back. Ran screaming out of the room to cool it under the nearest water source. Happened to be a water fountain. >.o Only first degree that ended up healing in a week, but there's a good reason why he solders, not I.
Larry Bundy Jr amen! I remember the first time I was burned by a soldering iron and the first time I was burned by molten solder and the first time I was burned by a hot solder point... ahhh the memories.
Yeah, wear goggles. I was doing a lot of work at one time, had a cramp, and flicked the 650 degree iron with some solder on it. That hot solder landed about 2 inches away from my eye on my cheek, just imagine the pain if it were actually my eye that got burnt. That second light looked good though! A tip for the LED though, flatten down the leads with a pair of pliers before soldering it, it makes the LED stay in place a lot better. By the way, if you want to get good fast, grab an old LCD inverter board, and practice desoldering and soldering components like chips on it. The solder used melts easier than solder used in, say, a computer motherboard. Also check out Pace's soldering instruction videos, those are pure gold... just take a shot of vodka every time he says "solvent." :)
Also, yay Microcenter! I live about a block away from one myself. Kudos for buying the solder wick, and the desoldering pump. Those are helpful, but in my experience, solder pumps are a pain to use, unless you drop the money on an electric desoldering gun, which really only makes sense if you're doing a lot of soldering. In any case, learning to solder is a great idea for you. Considering all of the retro equipment you have, being able to solder will help you a lot when it comes to keeping all of it in good repair.
Before you get to work for real, find something you don't mind killing completely, like one of your acquisitions that will maybe power on but not actually, you know, work, and practice with removing and putting back something that will give you feedback you did right (maybe a lamp or if it still puts out a signal, the connectors you are soldering). This is after grabbing a completely dead thing and playing 'take off and put back' on it for a bit. Also, get some soldering flux, worth it trust me.
Pace has their solder training films posted here on UA-cam and you can see how it's done in more depth. I don't know why you haven't done a training film episode on The Archive by the way.
Don't feel too bad, Ben. I once saw a lad back in my woodwork class get so frustrated with a blocked hot glue gun that he thought dabbing it against his tongue would be a good idea to unblock it. It was not. I did not exactly go to a school for those destined to become rocket scientists.
This is only the second time I've seen somebody fail at something I didn't think could ever be failed at. The first time was teaching an old sailor how to print signs on a computer, and when you told him to move the mouse pointer over an item and click it, the pointer would move upward and off the item as he began to apply pressure to the mouse button and then he would end up clicking on nothing.
You know that everything in life it is jus a matter of practice. I wasnt good at soldering even after a few years until one guy let me use his soldering iron, a Goot branded one. Then I said, everyone can solder perfect with one of these. So, yeah, like everything, tool quality helps a loot. It a game changer. Goot stick solder 20 to 30W, ceramic tip. As per practice just grab and old PCB and start to solder and unsolder things. It wont get worse since is trashed. Using the desoldering hand pump is a bit more tricky, but nothing special. It like pretending playing a song with a guitar when you hadnt grab a guitar before. Fortunately, soldering is way easy than learning music. Buy a propper goot soldering iron (Im not pointing to a Weller, even when they not that expensive, it is an ovekill). PROPER solder (not cheapo gargabe) and flux. Give it some time and that it. For ELECTRONICS, board repair, up to 30W is fine. More than 30 for this jobs is likely you will end with a ruined board ... BUT ... big soldering joints like in the transformer boards, big caps etc can struggle a bit at 30W. There are some goot irons that are DUAL, 30W standard and then you they have a trigger to kick it to 120W for this kind of jobs. They are the gun type.
Ben, I think you're being a bit unfair on the instructions in the kit. They look really friendly and complete to me. There are a few things they don't explain though that you definitely need to know: 1. the basic idea is to heat up the two things you're trying to join together at the same time, so that the solder will melt and flow over both of them 2. you need to have the soldering iron tip in contact with both pieces of metal at the same time, and hold it for at least a second or two, to get it hot enough 3. then you apply the end of the solder itself to the joint - ideally to a different part of it than where the soldering iron is touching. maybe on the opposite side of the component lead etc. 4. the molten solder will solidify very quickly when the soldering iron is removed from the joint - in most cases, in less than two seconds 5. there are some components that you can damage by overheating, so you need to be quite quick and nimble before soldering them. Good news! The beginner-level soldering kit you have wisely doesn't contain any of those! You can hold that iron on those joints for as long as you like!
Hey, don't feel bad, gotta start somewhere. Kipkay has a couple nice easy to follow digest size video on how to solder (or "sauder" depending on your region) wires and circuit boards (including RCA jacks). v=w4acHT1coc4 and v=Pjsoq-ZejRM
You don't melt the solder. You heat the two objects you want to solder and then apply the solder to the objects. You didn't do THAT bad btw =] Except for the solder bridge haha.
Big Clive sure is awesome guy, and soldering with Hakko 936 clone is much more fun compared to these cheapo irons without any thermal control. For example HobbyKing got one for less than $30 including shipping.
I haven't finished watching yet but wow that was kinda cringey, it's not that hard to do, rest the iron against the pad (board) and the lead(pin) and while leaving it there, add your solder, the trick is to not add so much as to make a blob, but try to make a mountain shape, afterwards give it a second to settle and remove your iron, look at some tutorials on UA-cam :)
MrWolfSnack Even for people who've never done it before, they usually are able to learn pretty quickly, it's just because of the awful instructions that came with the kit that Ben was having issues
Boy what a mess! you should seriously learn a bit of electronics. It would be very helpfull with all this old hardware.... Try buying an arduino with a breadboard to practice! I love your channel!
Want to learn how to do something?, first, search for a youtube tutorial, there's loads of them! Anyway, removing that short from LED (in fact, removing ALL the components and trying again) will be good practice. :)
I've seen worse, so don't fret. Just need to see the right way, and then it's just a bit of practice and then you get to snigger at people getting it wrong too. I can't believe you didn't check out youtube for some vids - bigclive has some great examples.
When you say "solder" it comes out as "sodder"! What in "L" happened there! The letter "L" is NOT silent! thus: SOL-DER! like another word you Americans mispronounce: Herb - The "H" is NOT silent - "A herbal remedy", not "An 'erbal remedy".
Basically, what I'm doing is giving you Americans a taste of your own medicine! You Americans act like you rule the world and every other country's citizens are lesser people. Well, America, you're just another country in the world. Your President, whomever he is, is no more important than the Prime Ministers(where that rank applies) in other countries. And if those other countries have a President or even a Governor-General(Canada, Australia, New Zealand, for instance) then that President or Governor-General OUTRANKS your president!
+Neil Forbes ah, so your twelve. if you were over twelve you would be aware that the president of the usa is Much more important, he wields the power to make or break the entire worlds security, economy, and well being, in a way that the prime minister of whatever pissant country you belong to could only dream of.
Thank the seven deities that the youtube search bar is right there at the top of the page, that is if you really want to learn how to solder. Thank you Ben for making all your amazing videos. Your humor is so delightfully dry so you even lured a famous Brit to comment. Hi Larry! :D
There's this company in Milwaukee called Lightning Fast VCR Repair; whatever you do, don't take your Beta there. They're a bunch of hack frauds.
Heating the pad and contact is step one. You ideally want to do that heating from the back side, because you'll be applying the solder to the other side of it (left vs right), using the heat from the contact to melt the solder.
In salute to Oddity Archive, I present this classic instructional video on how to properly solder:
ua-cam.com/video/vIT4ra6Mo0s/v-deo.html
Good to know that I'm not the only one that had shaky hands when trying to solder. Thank you for the vid.
Ben you shorted big time at the LED lol
The led is shortet out !, when you solder hold the solder iron on to the spot where to solder at the same time aply some tin solder and the solder tin will melt right away and when there is enoug remove the iron and solder tin this goes fast ,and when you get use to it it's as easy as riding your bike :D.
back in my day, we learned to solder for fun before sending our kids to the steel mill AND WE LIKED IT!
As a former broadcast engineer, the best advice I can give you is this: Practice, practice and practice again...no matter how many times you burn the frak out of yourself. :)
I LOVE to solder!!!
Well Ben, think on the positive side... any soldering job where you don't come away with 3rd degree burns, is a good solder!!! :D
That was me, in the Comp TIA class I met my SO. He handed me the gun, I grabbed the barrel, and I handed it back. Ran screaming out of the room to cool it under the nearest water source. Happened to be a water fountain. >.o
Only first degree that ended up healing in a week, but there's a good reason why he solders, not I.
Larry Bundy Jr amen! I remember the first time I was burned by a soldering iron and the first time I was burned by molten solder and the first time I was burned by a hot solder point... ahhh the memories.
You could say that he's been soldiering on like a trooper. Get it? Solder? Soldier? Not even a golf clap for that one? Sheesh, tough room.
Holy fuu.. Well,the second one looks better,and even works! Keep practicing,you'll get it.
Yeah, wear goggles. I was doing a lot of work at one time, had a cramp, and flicked the 650 degree iron with some solder on it. That hot solder landed about 2 inches away from my eye on my cheek, just imagine the pain if it were actually my eye that got burnt.
That second light looked good though! A tip for the LED though, flatten down the leads with a pair of pliers before soldering it, it makes the LED stay in place a lot better.
By the way, if you want to get good fast, grab an old LCD inverter board, and practice desoldering and soldering components like chips on it. The solder used melts easier than solder used in, say, a computer motherboard. Also check out Pace's soldering instruction videos, those are pure gold... just take a shot of vodka every time he says "solvent." :)
Also, yay Microcenter! I live about a block away from one myself.
Kudos for buying the solder wick, and the desoldering pump. Those are helpful, but in my experience, solder pumps are a pain to use, unless you drop the money on an electric desoldering gun, which really only makes sense if you're doing a lot of soldering.
In any case, learning to solder is a great idea for you. Considering all of the retro equipment you have, being able to solder will help you a lot when it comes to keeping all of it in good repair.
Before you get to work for real, find something you don't mind killing completely, like one of your acquisitions that will maybe power on but not actually, you know, work, and practice with removing and putting back something that will give you feedback you did right (maybe a lamp or if it still puts out a signal, the connectors you are soldering). This is after grabbing a completely dead thing and playing 'take off and put back' on it for a bit.
Also, get some soldering flux, worth it trust me.
Touch lamps are good soldering practice.
I'd say that a lot of manufacturers have no idea what "learning from zero" actually means.
I never though soldering can make me laugh so loud one day, but you did it!
Thank you Ben!
Report to the EEV blog immediately. There are some good Soldering tutorials there.
Pace has their solder training films posted here on UA-cam and you can see how it's done in more depth. I don't know why you haven't done a training film episode on The Archive by the way.
Don't feel too bad, Ben. I once saw a lad back in my woodwork class get so frustrated with a blocked hot glue gun that he thought dabbing it against his tongue would be a good idea to unblock it. It was not. I did not exactly go to a school for those destined to become rocket scientists.
Rocket brain surgeons, you mean.
Good job, i need to learn how to do this as well to work on my Commodore 128.
This is only the second time I've seen somebody fail at something I didn't think could ever be failed at. The first time was teaching an old sailor how to print signs on a computer, and when you told him to move the mouse pointer over an item and click it, the pointer would move upward and off the item as he began to apply pressure to the mouse button and then he would end up clicking on nothing.
It's easy once you get the hang of it. I might not be the best at it but still get the job done.
You know that everything in life it is jus a matter of practice. I wasnt good at soldering even after a few years until one guy let me use his soldering iron, a Goot branded one. Then I said, everyone can solder perfect with one of these. So, yeah, like everything, tool quality helps a loot. It a game changer. Goot stick solder 20 to 30W, ceramic tip. As per practice just grab and old PCB and start to solder and unsolder things. It wont get worse since is trashed. Using the desoldering hand pump is a bit more tricky, but nothing special. It like pretending playing a song with a guitar when you hadnt grab a guitar before. Fortunately, soldering is way easy than learning music. Buy a propper goot soldering iron (Im not pointing to a Weller, even when they not that expensive, it is an ovekill). PROPER solder (not cheapo gargabe) and flux. Give it some time and that it. For ELECTRONICS, board repair, up to 30W is fine. More than 30 for this jobs is likely you will end with a ruined board ... BUT ... big soldering joints like in the transformer boards, big caps etc can struggle a bit at 30W. There are some goot irons that are DUAL, 30W standard and then you they have a trigger to kick it to 120W for this kind of jobs. They are the gun type.
Weird. I'm a member of the bell-ringers club, but I didn't get a notification. Glad I hopped on.
thumbs up for Microcenter! I almost live in my local store
solder so easy and fun!!!
oh I haven't laughed this hard in a while. oh Ben, you're on UA-cam, just watch some soldering videos and you'll be fine. lol
Ben can't solder. I can't drive a stick-shift. I can't play guitar. Ben can play guitar. I can solder. Can Ben drive a stick-shift?
*can Ben solder a stick-shift guitar?
You solder both Led Leads together definitely not going to work. Lol..Big Fan thank for content love the archive.
Ben, I think you're being a bit unfair on the instructions in the kit. They look really friendly and complete to me. There are a few things they don't explain though that you definitely need to know:
1. the basic idea is to heat up the two things you're trying to join together at the same time, so that the solder will melt and flow over both of them
2. you need to have the soldering iron tip in contact with both pieces of metal at the same time, and hold it for at least a second or two, to get it hot enough
3. then you apply the end of the solder itself to the joint - ideally to a different part of it than where the soldering iron is touching. maybe on the opposite side of the component lead etc.
4. the molten solder will solidify very quickly when the soldering iron is removed from the joint - in most cases, in less than two seconds
5. there are some components that you can damage by overheating, so you need to be quite quick and nimble before soldering them. Good news! The beginner-level soldering kit you have wisely doesn't contain any of those! You can hold that iron on those joints for as long as you like!
Man... I mean, I'm pretty poor at soldering myself, but I'd like to think I'd be able to at least assemble this...
Hey, don't feel bad, gotta start somewhere. Kipkay has a couple nice easy to follow digest size video on how to solder (or "sauder" depending on your region) wires and circuit boards (including RCA jacks). v=w4acHT1coc4 and v=Pjsoq-ZejRM
A good battery drainer.
You don't melt the solder. You heat the two objects you want to solder and then apply the solder to the objects. You didn't do THAT bad btw =] Except for the solder bridge haha.
that battery will explode in your face when you short it
but, how many flashlight practice boards does the kit have?
mullet I dont know
he never said it
where is the triple antibiotic cream and bandages in this kit?
I'm trying to learn to solder now to change the internal batteries in my GameBoy Advanced games. They deadlock the batteries in those dang things. -_-
geez wtf I can't close my jaw
im a new solderer and i never burned myself
yet 😅
I`d rather play with the old Uranium science kit.
WHERE DID THE THEME SONG GO.
No it's not to... wait, what are you ... no not like ... don't just touch the ... ARGH you're not .. NO!!!! Bad Ben. Please just watch a video.
Ben has such an unsteady hand. He would make a terrible surgeon. I would get a kick out of watching him play the game operation
If you want further advice Ben, I'd recommend bigclivedotcom's videos, like this one ua-cam.com/video/aIab66EgfHM/v-deo.html
Big Clive sure is awesome guy, and soldering with Hakko 936 clone is much more fun compared to these cheapo irons without any thermal control.
For example HobbyKing got one for less than $30 including shipping.
A kid's soldering kit!? Next thing you know, they'll be selling kid's woodburning kits or kid's nuclear energy labs! Oh, wait...
I'm pretty sure the thing is made with anyone in mind, not just kids, I mean the cartoon person on the packaging seems to be an adult.
Kandi Gloss That was more of a joke than anything, though Ben did refer to it in the description as a kid's soldering kit.
Not like I needed to sleep or anything...
Under 301!
I haven't finished watching yet but wow that was kinda cringey, it's not that hard to do, rest the iron against the pad (board) and the lead(pin) and while leaving it there, add your solder, the trick is to not add so much as to make a blob, but try to make a mountain shape, afterwards give it a second to settle and remove your iron, look at some tutorials on UA-cam :)
It is hard to do for people that never done it before.
MrWolfSnack Even for people who've never done it before, they usually are able to learn pretty quickly, it's just because of the awful instructions that came with the kit that Ben was having issues
you've got to be joking
If you wanna learn how to solder, talk to an expert. That's how I learned. and I was sucessful
Boy what a mess! you should seriously learn a bit of electronics. It would be very helpfull with all this old hardware.... Try buying an arduino with a breadboard to practice! I love your channel!
Want to learn how to do something?, first, search for a youtube tutorial, there's loads of them!
Anyway, removing that short from LED (in fact, removing ALL the components and trying again) will be good practice. :)
you're kidding right
Practice makes perfect, together with Big Clive: ua-cam.com/video/aIab66EgfHM/v-deo.html
Under 301 club!
I've seen worse, so don't fret. Just need to see the right way, and then it's just a bit of practice and then you get to snigger at people getting it wrong too. I can't believe you didn't check out youtube for some vids - bigclive has some great examples.
askjacob I haven't seen worse
Good gawd, go watch some soldering videos. They have this thing now called 'UA-cam'
Or don't, this is hysterical.
Fuck you, the purpose of the kit is to teach you, not youtube.
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/oqV2xU1fee8/v-deo.html
This is the video I showed my sister. It's pretty informative:
ua-cam.com/video/IpkkfK937mU/v-deo.html
Benny boy. If you message me here or on facebook, I'll be happy to try and help you improve your soldering.
lol
When you say "solder" it comes out as "sodder"! What in "L" happened there! The letter "L" is NOT silent! thus: SOL-DER! like another word you Americans mispronounce: Herb - The "H" is NOT silent - "A herbal remedy", not "An 'erbal remedy".
Get a life, seriously.
Learn to speak and spell Proper English! Seriously!
Basically, what I'm doing is giving you Americans a taste of your own medicine! You Americans act like you rule the world and every other country's citizens are lesser people. Well, America, you're just another country in the world. Your President, whomever he is, is no more important than the Prime Ministers(where that rank applies) in other countries. And if those other countries have a President or even a Governor-General(Canada, Australia, New Zealand, for instance) then that President or Governor-General OUTRANKS your president!
+Neil Forbes ah, so your twelve. if you were over twelve you would be aware that the president of the usa is Much more important, he wields the power to make or break the entire worlds security, economy, and well being, in a way that the prime minister of whatever pissant country you belong to could only dream of.
As the current US president is very much demonstrating. Though this guy is obviously just a troll, personally I'm not going to give him any more time.
327th Yaaaaaaay.
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Good job, man!