Special thanks to Greg (CHANNEL: ua-cam.com/channels/qIMpVj8_tKIx_SYPrdfoYg.html ) for appearing in the video! If you guys are interested in animation and storrytelling go and check out his new channel. If you have any other questions for a Q&A video please comment below.
the basics of a bad low-budget movie could be: -boring location -camera movement -poor lighting -bad acting and bad sound specially the sound, u can fake the brain to make it think good sound = high quality
@@bryanhartline1696 both of them! Look at your favorite movie and you'll notice how subtle and smooth are some movements. Remember that everything is planned
Bad sound. Young or bad actors. Limited budget for set pieces, lighting, costumes, and locations. Use of affordable zoom lenses (lack shallow depth). Lack of coverage. Technical mistakes (shutter angle, distracting camera shake, novice pacing or edit). No story.
“ Demystified” is an important thing. When I went to “film school” (just three semesters of Georgia film academy) the biggest thing I learned was simply the step by steps of making a movie, locations, casting, lighting, time management of the shooting day. Once I understood that, it “ demystified” everything, I knew how to make a movie, and after making my first 20 min short film, I too realized all the mistakes I made and know what to do different next time.
I did a feature in the similar way u did back in 2018, black and white as well, but only done with post last month. It gave me more confidence after watching your channel. I also had bad sound, but overall, the experience and the work is worth it. I had been pessimistic for the past 2 yrs but now watching u describe yours gave me some hope.
"the festival model is a myth". That's so dumb lol. Like I get not liking the festivals or not liking the politics, but festivals are still the best way to meet and make connections with actual filmmakers. The two times ive been to festivals I've met friends for life and got jobs through said festivals. I think people assume when youre entering into festivals you want to be the next kevin smith or Robert Rodriguez, but that isn't the case. I just want my movie screened in a theater and to meet filmmakers.
Yeah, you're totally right but what he's talking about is exactly what you said. Is the lottery ticket mentality. Me submit to festival. Me get a $10mil check. Me Steven Spielberg.
I was reading this comment before that part of the video played and was terrified thinking that the director of Relics said that. Thank goodness it was just someone in the UA-cam comment section. And yes, you’re absolutely correct.
Thank you so much for this video! From few days I am so much worried about the sound recording part of a project I’m working on which is set to be shot in few days. This video came as a rescue. Thanks again.
Visuals For You yeah I noticed that when I was looking through their uploads. Super good quality videos that are informative without just being made for runtime or ad space like every other UA-cam channel
Festivals don’t return on investment like in the 90s. People are taking would be short film budgets and shooting feature length stuff that can be sold digitally. And the market for “amateur” is called UA-cam
K J return on investment? Why would anyone assume going to festivals get them any money? Making small films is a losing money game. Very few make money off of it independently
libertines Fink I get you, a lot of people are doing it as a hobby, and not wanting a career, but I think that’s a fallacy to think nobody makes money on small projects. If you produce something people want, it can earn. Music videos are an example. To me filmmaking can be looked at as self employment, if you’re cutting the checks and owning the project. IMO it’s best to begin the practice of taking responsibility for redeeming the budget of your projects. A lot of people will just want a job/salary eventually, but if you’re pulling in favours and paying people little or nothing on an indie film, one should still respect the efforts made and give the project its full respect. If you make something for 500-1k, you could figure out how much you could get for a screening, Blu-rays, merch... although scaled down, the same revenue streams are open to everybody. Festivals have a submission fee, and most student/amateur films have already cut corners in production, like overdubbing, or foley, or lighting, or crew pay. I could be wrong, and constantly looking to challenge my assumptions, but this is how I see it at the moment for people who want to be more ambitious with every project. Edit: traditionally festivals were intended for filmmakers to shop movies to distributors, who would then put it in theatres
Me and my 2 friends are going to make a movie, but they want to make an easy and quick one. I want to make a good and well writen movie with nice shots and charecter development. How do i do that and how do i convice them to do what i want?
1) Make a Script. 2) Sell the movie as an independent art house film full of polemics (this sells well, for example: Michael Haneke’s Funny Games or Pascal Laugier’s Martyrs). 3) The camera has one requirement: doesn’t matter if it is small, the FPS are the most important thing. 4) Maybe Black and White if you have trouble with lightning. 5) Make an original score
Yeah, a Zoom H5. The mic on it is useable in controlled conditions, but I also shoot documentary work so I've used it more over the years as a mixer for an extra 2 channels of sound (ie. 2 lapels recorded into the zoom with an on board mic straight into the camera).
Can you please tell about how to do sound design for short film? Any website with free MP3 audio? And how much is post production sound design in England for short films?
Engaging on screen action and good sound design/music (by no sound I assume you mean no dialogue). I shot a feature film last year without any dialogue from the main character. When filming without dialogue a lot falls on the shoulders of the visuals, performance of the cast and the music/sound design to keep the audience engaged and tell the story. A lot can also be learnt from the visual storytelling in old silent films. The Kid (1921) is one of my favourites.
Special thanks to Greg (CHANNEL: ua-cam.com/channels/qIMpVj8_tKIx_SYPrdfoYg.html ) for appearing in the video! If you guys are interested in animation and storrytelling go and check out his new channel.
If you have any other questions for a Q&A video please comment below.
Thanks Gray! I enjoyed helping you make this video. I hope our insights/mistakes will be of use to your viewers.
Can you do a video on "What makes a film look low-budget" then go over the things we can do to make our films stand out?
the basics of a bad low-budget movie could be:
-boring location
-camera movement
-poor lighting
-bad acting
and bad sound
specially the sound, u can fake the brain to make it think good sound = high quality
@@josendrado do you mean poor quality camera movements? Or too much/pointless camera movement? I assume both
@@bryanhartline1696 both of them! Look at your favorite movie and you'll notice how subtle and smooth are some movements. Remember that everything is planned
Bad sound.
Young or bad actors.
Limited budget for set pieces, lighting, costumes, and locations.
Use of affordable zoom lenses (lack shallow depth).
Lack of coverage.
Technical mistakes (shutter angle, distracting camera shake, novice pacing or edit).
No story.
@@mythcrab6047 I only disagree with "Use of affordable zoom lenses (lack shallow depth)."
The shallow effect is a bonus i think
“ Demystified” is an important thing. When I went to “film school” (just three semesters of Georgia film academy) the biggest thing I learned was simply the step by steps of making a movie, locations, casting, lighting, time management of the shooting day. Once I understood that, it “ demystified” everything, I knew how to make a movie, and after making my first 20 min short film, I too realized all the mistakes I made and know what to do different next time.
I did a feature in the similar way u did back in 2018, black and white as well, but only done with post last month. It gave me more confidence after watching your channel. I also had bad sound, but overall, the experience and the work is worth it. I had been pessimistic for the past 2 yrs but now watching u describe yours gave me some hope.
Relics looks beautifully shot. Inspiring stuff!
"the festival model is a myth". That's so dumb lol. Like I get not liking the festivals or not liking the politics, but festivals are still the best way to meet and make connections with actual filmmakers. The two times ive been to festivals I've met friends for life and got jobs through said festivals. I think people assume when youre entering into festivals you want to be the next kevin smith or Robert Rodriguez, but that isn't the case. I just want my movie screened in a theater and to meet filmmakers.
Yeah, you're totally right but what he's talking about is exactly what you said. Is the lottery ticket mentality.
Me submit to festival.
Me get a $10mil check.
Me Steven Spielberg.
I was reading this comment before that part of the video played and was terrified thinking that the director of Relics said that. Thank goodness it was just someone in the UA-cam comment section. And yes, you’re absolutely correct.
Good luck!!
Thank you so much for this video! From few days I am so much worried about the sound recording part of a project I’m working on which is set to be shot in few days. This video came as a rescue. Thanks again.
love these, hope your channel takes off
It has been taking off. It's only been up for 5 months and he already has 73k subscribers.
Visuals For You yeah I noticed that when I was looking through their uploads. Super good quality videos that are informative without just being made for runtime or ad space like every other UA-cam channel
I am also shooting in Tokyo Run and Gun Guerilla style. Subway scenes are always difficult, because people around will definitely look at your camera.
has anyone ever told you how nice your voice is to listen to
Never, people often don't like the sound of South African accents, but thank you.
@@InDepthCine your accent sounds british lol
@@desireandfire No it doesn't
Where can I watch Relics? This is a great video, as always, and I'd love to see some of your work.
Best,
A young amateur filmmaker
Best low budget option I find is to use $20 lavs and have each actor record it to their phone.
100% I haven't seen anyone else talk about this but you don't need expensive sound recorders for lavs, your phone is perfect
for recording sound and having light in moving shots i filmed fully on my own, i built a rig with all of this on it i could carry on my own
Love the zoom recorder in jackets, passes round, LOL 😂 💯👍indie baby
The discord idea was great, thanks for doing it!
Thank you for making this content. Watching your videos is quite insightful.
I actually produce some amateur movies. I have some questions about festivals : how do you choose them ? How do you get into them ?
Festivals don’t return on investment like in the 90s. People are taking would be short film budgets and shooting feature length stuff that can be sold digitally.
And the market for “amateur” is called UA-cam
@@BooseJuice vimeo , to be specific
K J return on investment? Why would anyone assume going to festivals get them any money? Making small films is a losing money game. Very few make money off of it independently
libertines Fink I get you, a lot of people are doing it as a hobby, and not wanting a career, but I think that’s a fallacy to think nobody makes money on small projects. If you produce something people want, it can earn. Music videos are an example.
To me filmmaking can be looked at as self employment, if you’re cutting the checks and owning the project. IMO it’s best to begin the practice of taking responsibility for redeeming the budget of your projects. A lot of people will just want a job/salary eventually, but if you’re pulling in favours and paying people little or nothing on an indie film, one should still respect the efforts made and give the project its full respect.
If you make something for 500-1k, you could figure out how much you could get for a screening, Blu-rays, merch... although scaled down, the same revenue streams are open to everybody.
Festivals have a submission fee, and most student/amateur films have already cut corners in production, like overdubbing, or foley, or lighting, or crew pay.
I could be wrong, and constantly looking to challenge my assumptions, but this is how I see it at the moment for people who want to be more ambitious with every project.
Edit: traditionally festivals were intended for filmmakers to shop movies to distributors, who would then put it in theatres
Well done, guys! I would like to see your movie "Relics", where could I find it?
Can you make a tutorial video on camera movement used majority of scene depending on emotional conveying
Noir Et Blanc Vie music. Nice!
why did u choose to shoot black and white?
When I'm making something i usually put my zoom H1 on the end of a stick, it works great!
How did you get into filming, and how did you learn how to do it properly
Where can I watch relics?
I struggle hard with audio for my breaking bad reactions
Where can I watch the locked off documentary that you filmed? Love the channel!
I would like to know how to choose what camera angles/shots to use in your films...thanks
May I ask where they posted their movie?
Me and my 2 friends are going to make a movie, but they want to make an easy and quick one. I want to make a good and well writen movie with nice shots and charecter development. How do i do that and how do i convice them to do what i want?
1) Make a Script. 2) Sell the movie as an independent art house film full of polemics (this sells well, for example: Michael Haneke’s Funny Games or Pascal Laugier’s Martyrs). 3) The camera has one requirement: doesn’t matter if it is small, the FPS are the most important thing. 4) Maybe Black and White if you have trouble with lightning. 5) Make an original score
@@charlespuruncajas9663 the FPS are the most important? what? Lol
What’s the best frame rate for shooting? Does 23.98 FPS cause any issue in external sound syncing?
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Did you use a zoom recorder? What kind of mic was it?
Yeah, a Zoom H5. The mic on it is useable in controlled conditions, but I also shoot documentary work so I've used it more over the years as a mixer for an extra 2 channels of sound (ie. 2 lapels recorded into the zoom with an on board mic straight into the camera).
Can you please tell about how to do sound design for short film? Any website with free MP3 audio? And how much is post production sound design in England for short films?
Say you have a film with no sound. How do you keep the pacing running without sound?
Engaging on screen action and good sound design/music (by no sound I assume you mean no dialogue). I shot a feature film last year without any dialogue from the main character. When filming without dialogue a lot falls on the shoulders of the visuals, performance of the cast and the music/sound design to keep the audience engaged and tell the story.
A lot can also be learnt from the visual storytelling in old silent films. The Kid (1921) is one of my favourites.
@@InDepthCine Thank you, I looked up the movie and it's free on youtube. I'll try to keep those in mind next time I film with no sound.
Good shit cuh
Zoom F6 or Mixpre 6?
Wow
Thanks for this,do you know what camera was used on relics?
they made it with a canon 550d
Low key looks like Following from Nolan
Oh, I didn't realise this video has just been released... way too early, will come back when there's more comments.
wow nice trick
😁 my comment. If you’re not in it for your work to make a return it’s a hobby-which is fine
Maybe film making isn't right for you, if THAT'S your attitude.
@@maxsdad538 ??? What makes you say that?
I’d love the chance to work with you guys in the future as an actor / produce. Currently I’ve been binge watching your work @In Depth Cine
Wow, you're setting the bar very low here!
No reason why anybody shouldn't give it go themselves then.
Why SHOULDN'T everyone give it a shot, Slick?
Stereo dialogue is never a good idea.
The South African accent, great ain't it?
Where can I watch relics?