Hardtail Mountain Bikes | Why a Hardtail Mountain Bike is Good for Your Riding and Your Wallet.
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Hardtail Mountain Bikes. The hardtail mountain bike is a great cost effective way to get into mountain biking. There are so many great benefits to owning one. Many also view the hardtails to be the most visually stunning of all mountain bikes. just check out Instagram or Pinkbike forums and you'll find a plethora of custom mid and long travel enduro and XC hardtails. If you're a mountain biker on a budget, a hardtail is hard to beat. In this video we explore some for the benefits from my perspective. Hope you enjoy.
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I love hardtails and I think they make you a better rider. There are more pros than cons in my book. What do you think?
What are your favorite hardtail bikes?
Thinking my next hardtail will be steel. Either a Orange p7 or a ragley big wig/piglet
@@ewartbuilt660 Orange P7 is sweet. The Piglet is high on my list for steel. The 2020 has a sexy pain job. Curious if I would like a 29r like the Big Wig versus 27.5in. My Marley is 27.5 and is so nimble.
@@AdrenalineIsLife I ride 27.5+ right now and love it, but really want to try 29ers for the added speed.
@@ewartbuilt660 The extra rollover makes them faster for sure.
I want to put a 29er fork on my nukeproof scout and run it as a mullet bike. That I think might be the magic ticket
Hardtails are great until the next morning and i realize everything hurts.
LOL They can wear you out but it's a good pain. 😀
Hardtails for life!
really need to hear this. thanks for saving me money .
😁 Enjoy. Hardtails are a wild party!
I ride hardtails, always have. I love them and really don't feel I need a full sus. That said I've ridden mates bouncy bikes and they are amazing. Climbing on loose, rough stuff that rear travel just sticks the tyre to the floor and fast off camber roots etc. are a dream.
Buut, I like the way hardtails make me work at stuff and I definitely like not having to worry about affording a shock rebuild at any time..
Street cred? Meh. I suppose there is some satisfaction to be had from making it through stuff that others on full sussers have failed on but it's really the very least of my concerns.
It's certainly about enjoying the challenge. It's not for everyone, but hardtails are very satisfying for those that appreciate them. I'm still one of those people. Enjoy!
Yup...it's gonna make you work hard and busy on trails alright, but it will definitely make your ankles and knees even stronger if you frequently ride on hardtails.
For sure! The best way to benefit from a hardtail is to fully commit. 🙌
Passed 5 Years all my bikes Have been "Hard core" Hard tails currently on a chromag stylus my gf got me the Frame for my Birthday Love it.
Great bike! I've been wanting a Stylus for a while now. Enjoy!
San quentin 2 for me🤙
Great bike! Nice geo and good spec. Enjoy!🤙
Cool vid. I want to get a hardtail to back up my Fuel EX 8. As long as it has a dropper post, I'm good.
Thanks! Hardtails are fun to have a as a back up. It'll spice up your rides.
Top spot for “street cred” has to be people riding MTB unicycles. 😳
😂😂😂😂 #deathbeforeunicyling
Start with a hardtail learn then one day upgrade to suspension. have both
I think that is a good approach. 👍
Have my NS bikes hardtail built as a mullet and it’s the only bike I have and want🤘
Awesome! NS makes great bikes. Just got back from a fun techy hardtail ride. So much fun! 🤟
I got the dartmoor hornet and i never think about buying a full sus bike. Buying better components yes, maybe after it wears out completely. I'm really enjoying it.
That's a beautiful beast of a bike! Enjoy!
By the way congrats on the subs! You're almost to 100! You got this!
Sooo exciting! 🤞
I agree with most of your points except "street cred". I am fairly new to mountain biking but have had an older hardtail sitting in the garage for about 10 years. Blew the dust off it and started riding. Is it the latest and greatest? No. But I will be 57 this year and do not have a need to have the newest. I have updated and fitted it with some newer parts and ride the heck out of it. I am not going to be riding Whistler or doing any massive jumps. No need for street cred here. I ride for fun, enjoyment and exercise and that's enough me.
Nothing wrong with that in my book! At the end of the day, it's all about the individuals personal motivation, preference and enjoyment. If you're mountain biking at 56, you're way ahead of the game. I might call that street cred 😉
this is great content that confirms my addiction for hard tails. I owned a full squish a couple of months ago that I never warmed up to it. Sold it and got my nukeproof scout, never looked back ever since. i got my marley frame just now and ready to build my next hardtail! will be transfering the parts from my roscoe 7 to the marley since it offers a much more aggresive geo
Awesome! The Marley is an excellent frame. Never underestimate a well spec'd hardtail. I took a beginner out for a ride recently and let him try my hardtail back to back with my full sus. At the end of the ride. He said the hardtail was more fun and will be buying one as his first bike.
I love this video man, it's so true too. I bought a second hand commencal mini DH bike as a first MTB, and inevitably I hit a jump and the rear shock acted like an ejector seat and I hit a tree and broke my shoulder haha. I had another FS 29er since then it was ok but a bit boring and took the fun out of it. I love hardtails and just bought an on one TikTik steel weapon. I'm 46 but it reminds of riding like a lunatic as a kid and it is sooo much fun.
Hell yeah. That's awesome! They definitely bring out the kid in you. We're pretty close in age. It's just a number.🤘 Enjoy!
Cool channel! I ride my hardtail 29er a ton, love to gravel grind it too! Keep ‘em coming! I also have a new UA-cam channel, and am looking to network with other up start channels. Subscribed!!
Thank you! 😁 Glad you are enjoying it. Plenty more to come. Will definitely check out your channel.
Power up switch backs like a boss too!
Yes!
you didnt explain why the rebound knob on the rear shock can confuse new riders...
🤔 Maybe a video on the subject is in order.
@@AdrenalineIsLife sure. subscribed
@@huckleberrylarry3186 Thanks! 🙂
I totally agree. I don't do technical trails and rocky terrain, just xc and gravel, smooth dirt and paved roads. When I do come across rocks, roots, varied terrain, I am standing and my legs become the shock obsorbers.
You can most definitely adapt to those conditions and it's more satisfying when you smash through a chunky section.
Steep tech features are way easier and safer on a full squish. Since hardtails can only compress the front (making the bike steeper), slopes greater than around 60 degrees get sketchy when the fork compresses and the bike goes completely vertical. On a full squish, you can shift your weight back to compress only the rear suspension, effectively flattening the slope!
I can't disagree with you. The hardtail will present a greater challenge when things become more chunky and steep. That definitely doesn't stop people from doing it. There are lots slack long travel hardtails designed with this in mind too.
awesome video man! i have a hardtail and i like to ride trails a lot, but i also ride regularly with guys in fire roads and run XC marathon and technical races...so i basically need a do it all bike. Guys keep telling me that i should buy a full sus, but i'm doing good with my 29" hardtail actually (i had made some adjustments to make it more trail oriented: shorter stem 40mm, wider rims 29 mm, Barzo XC trail 2.35 front and Barzo XC trail 2.25 back, dropper seat post). Here in Brazil we have to think twice about switching to a full sus, due to the crazy prices (and also the danger of being robbed if pedaling alone). I bought my hardtail for R$11.000,00, and a full suspension here doesn't cots less than R$25.000,00 (think about a bike costing 11.000,00 or 25.000,00 USD in the US)....so it is veeeery expensive. An imported full-suspension here does not cost less than R$40.000,00 (e.g Specialized Epic), so i don't think i'll be switching to a full-suspension if it is absolute necessary. Looking at your video, i don't think it is and my pocket (and wife) will be grateful for that!!
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it! The Hardtail is very capable and if you're keeping up with your friends, there's no need to change. They are more fun anyway. 🙂
Good to hear... I just ordered a trek roscoe 7 but second guessing after finding a trek fuel ex8 for my wife (used.. I’ve been riding it till mine comes in), and I really like the full suspension and wondering if I’m going to like the hardtail, thx !
The Roscoe is a great bike. The Fuel is also an excellent bike. Very different bikes though. It all depends on your personal preferences and where you do your riding. Some will never ride a hardtail while others will ride nothing else. I love both type of bikes. A hardtail will spice up a ride and you'll learn to pick your lines through a trail. With a full suspension you can smash into most everything with out much consequence. The Roscoe will challenge you especially on rough trails but I bet it'll out climb the Fuel every time.
I race a 2018 Rockhopper in XC, we've done everything from the Cuyuna Crusher, to the Maah Daah Hey 100. I'm currently building a San Quentin 3, for park. 150mm SR fork, OneUp Components cockpit, and the frame ships to Cali for custom paint, next month. My stoke level is absolutely off the charts. The only conceivable reason I could see needing a full squish, is if you're racing professionally, or you're taking on Megavalanche.
That's awesome! Love to hear stories like that. 💪🚵♂️ That San Quentin sounds like it'll be a park slayer. Enjoy!
That street credit is very real. I was riding my local enduro tracks with my dartmoor hornet and i was getting a lot of weird looks. Especially when i finish the trails with a big smile on my face As if a didn't suffer from so much punishment of having no rear suspension. I enjoyed it because i know i made the right decision.
Awesome! The hardtail keeps you strong!💪💪
Fully rigid Surly for me. Got tired of the maintenance and stuff breaking. Oil the chain now and then and good to go.
They are so simple and fun. Enjoy!
Nice 😍😍😍
Nice video man, I love my Transmitter hardtail. Hardtails rule! Nice video man, sub;d
Thanks! 😁😁 Hardtails 4evr!!
I like full suspension but I feel hardtails are awesome and when you pull something off on your hardtail it make me feel more satisfaction
Very true. They're less forgiving of mistakes. There's a bit more satisfaction that comes from it. 🍻
What’s your thoughts on Steel vs Aluminum hardtails? I’m currently comparing the two .
A proper fitting bike is more important than the material IMO. All things being equal, steel has better dampening properties and is more durable. The downside is that the frames are heavy. If you ride rough terrain and you aren't looking to win any xc races, steel is a good option. Aluminum is still a good option though. You shouldn't disqualify it. Weight savings and greater stiffness make them more nimble. Also they can usually be had for less money than a comparable steel bike. Hope that helps.
do a top5 hardtail bikes to learn skills on video, im interested in learning which kind of geometry is great to curb the learning curve
🤔 hmm interesting idea. Added to my "to do" list. Thanks.
Lol, that ending scene. Sorry future children!
😅 It was painful 🥴 but not as bad as it could've been.
Miss my hard tail everyday! Fat bike is filling that void for now!
Fat bikes are a ton of fun! I spent some time on one riding sand trails. It was a great time!
Waiting 4 the 2020 HT me wants one ☝️
I just bought one, not taken her out yet,just done the pavement test .goes well on first impression
Very informative vid! I started on a hardtail and am so glad I did! Now I have both HT and FS. Honestly, I hate jumping with a hard tail but maybe I would be more comfortable with it if I just practiced with it more.
Thanks!
It's always good to be comfortable on both. Especially if you like to throw your bike around.
You get more pop off the lip on a hardtail. So generally it is easier to get air on a hardtail but the landings are harsher. It is harder to get height on a full sus but the landing is cushy. When I see the rear suspension fully compress on a big jump, it makes me nervous because the pedals practically touches the ground. My friend was unlucky and there was a rock there and it ejected him off his bike and it broke his collar bone.
Explore putting a thicker tire on your back tire like a 2.6 or 2.8 if you dont already have those sizes on. It's not much but it does make the landing a bit cushier.
The last bit where you almost went otb. Go faster or learn to manual and manual off it or you can roll it. Those are the 3 safest ways.
That was definitely a case of coming at it too slow. The rear tire caught a rock that was sticking out and flung the bike forward a bit.
@@AdrenalineIsLife yeah those suck. I almost got sent over the bars a few times. It's usually when I do a large drop off a grass hill with a brick wall or concrete wall at the very end and my back wheel bucks me. Scary stuff, I learn to walk it first now or just bunny hop off it completely
Good stuff! Love the different perspectives
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome vid dude! Hardtails all the way!
Thanks! Hardtails are awesome 🤟
Good stuff man I been riding my hardtail, sence I started raiding a year ago and I love my bike I was thinking of getting a doble suspension bike but now after this video I'm not really sure probably I'll get another hardtail.👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed the video. 😁 They are so much fun!
I love my hardtail #orangeclockwork2020
Orange Clockwork is a gorgeous bike. Enjoy!
Hey bro i love HardTrail and i chose my secound bike but i don't know how is it Bergamont Revox 3
I'm not familiar with this bike. I looked it up. It's a cross country bike entry level. Will be fine for mellow trails.
Yeah, i like hardtails too, very agree with.
Love my HT
Love the channel. I just ordered a Marley frame and will be going down the rabbit hole of choosing parts. I was torn between the mmmbob and and Marley but ended on the Marley because I don’t have many big descents around here. However coming from a giant fathom Im wondering if the Marley will give me the more aggressive ride that I’m looking for(with the 130mm fork) or if I should put a 140mm fork to squeeze a tad more slack out of the bike. Thoughts on this idea? Thanks in advance. Also what rise are your bars?
Thanks! Glad you enjoy the channel. 😁 The MMMBOP is a cool bike but it is very slack. Like DH bike slack. The Marley is still a very slack bike with a 65.5 deg headtube. That's deep in enduro bike territory. 140mm will work just fine If you want a little more travel for big hits. IMO you don't need to slacken the bike any more for purposes of descending. Bars are 20mm rise.
Adrenaline Is Life thanks for the info I appreciate it !
Adrenaline Is Life sorry for so many questions but do you have the link to that cane creek headset you used?
@@mrtorque6488 No worries. Here are a couple of links.
Cane Creek 40 Series ZS Tapered ZS44 ZS56/40 Headset
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www.competitivecyclist.com/cane-creek-40-series-zero-stack-tapered-headset?skidn=CNE1WV8-BLA-ZS28ZS40&ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6NDAtU2VyaWVzIFplcm8gU3RhY2sgVGFwZXJlZCBIZWFkc2V0OjE6MTo0MC1TZXJpZXMgWmVybyBTdGFjayBUYXBlcmVkIEhlYWRzZXQ=
Adrenaline Is Life thanks again, I ordered some of those hunt wheels you reviewed but they won’t be ready till the end of next month. But that will buy me some time to research and figure out the other parts i guess
hardtail for LIFE !!!!!!!
Yes!!🤘
Love your thoughts about hardtails. I'm currently riding a Specialized Pitch hardtail. That thing is one tough bike. I don't know you've seen me smashing my derailleur on a skinny on my Rockstar bike park video granted it's a little bent but it's still shifting.
I definitely agree hardtails can teach you skills FS can't. But later on I do plan on getting a FS but still keeping the hardtail for sure. It always good to have options. Lol great video man!
Thanks. 😁 Hardtails are so much fun. I haven't seen your vid yet but its in my queue. Can't wait to see it!