He's back! Let's gooooo! with the ever present power creep of cloth abuser the natural solution isn't to nerf but instead to buff ranger to put a natural threat at a distance and also make arrow types a thing so we can diversify our damage types ironmace i know you read these.
Probably one of the sickest things I’ve done on this game too! I’m hoping to be able to pull off more cool shit with the more time I put on the class 🙏
Honestly how does this even take any thought to pull off. An ability that locks on and will continue to damage through walls is just fucking ridiculously broken
I know brother, Lightning Bolt is absolutely ridiculous. I wanted to showcase how much stupider it can be when you build into it. I’m sure Iron Mace will remove the damage through obstacles/terrain in one of the following hotfixes soon. Thanks for watching 😁
@joshp7940 u say that but a barb can still run at u with iron will then your dead or a rogue in stealth can kill u in 5 hits if they land mine u all chr in this game have a broken macanic I don't want them to fix it all u do is walk back soon as the lighting hits u n your out of range that's what I do not that hard to kill a sorc iv only died 3 times to a sorc n it's by 3rd party the class needs fixing so far from op
@@GinLxrd thats a really shit perspective. If you get hit by lightning bolt and ur not already at the very very furthest spot in its range you simply wont outrun it since it steal 60 movementspeed from you. Barb with ironwill can still be killed, blocked, crowdcontrolled etc. Rogues get counter in very many ways, we got hydras (lightning bolt too) light orbs all to check for invis. Wiz has ice shield, warlocks have phantomize (which they often still get of) Druids have dreamwalk or chicken form Barbs, fighters, bards, plate clerics all survive more than long enough on pure bulk for teammates to help or to outright fight back. And that is just IF a rogue gets to a good target without being caught or chipped. Only reason ppl moan about rogue is cuz if you lost that fight you lost it BEFORE you trade hits. Via not staying near teammates, not being aware there might be a rogue, not having a plan for it (like ice shield or dreamwalk) On the other hand lightning bolt will auto find and kill most light classes. And teleport lightning shield will just outright kill any non mdr character. And thats 2 spells, the guy has more movement, displacement and other massive dmg spells to use. Sorcerer is even more broken than peak panther and that shit was beyond wack
@mikahoolwerff3563 I get what your saying but it's one skill vs like u said druid in panther can jump on me im silenced n dead in 4 hits. All I'm saying sorc not that bad if u was playing back on play test 2 so many class was broken back then conpair to this version it's not that bad in my opinion. Sorc so buggy have u even played it u would get it. Day one sorc was op with the storm kill I was kill full teams with one skill that needed to be nerfed n it was by the 2nd day but druid still op till this day I play druid n get easy kills way faster than I do on sorc
@@GinLxrd I think you are both kind of right.. It is op ...the dmg is too much especially the scaling for true dmg.. But people dont realize that sorc actually needs something like that. I want the spell to keep going through walls and doors but with less dmg and less slow. Some classes just got nothing against sorc(like most classes have nothing against landmine rogue, panther druid, tm lock) but if you try to push into the lightning bolt instead of trying to stay out of range you will see that sorcs are easier to deal with. It needs a nerf but if you nerf it too much sorc is dead. I played alot of HR sorc the past days and good players counter you ez if they have HP and speed, people just dont know how to play vs sorc yet. If you eat all 5 hits from lightning bolt its a skill issue, the only way you can safely do this as sorc, is if you lighning orb/bolt at the same time and if both of those are on CD you have lost the fight usually. If it doesnt go through walls sorc is cooked aswell.. everybody can escape from a sorc.. its the slowest class with the slowest interaction speed.. Nobody complains about ranger/rogue being fast and opening doors quicker its is effectively the same thing as L bolt going through doors. And it being able to hit phantomize/dreamwalk is the most beautiful thing ever since those are some of the cheesiest uncounterable abilities/perks in the game.
The main problem with spellbook I find not so much merges, but overall losing ability to cast two spells at the same time. Dramatically increases kiting potential
That and the fact you also suffer a -10MS penalty too. I think it’s very situational; if you have the space to use a book (especially in team environments) then it’s great to take advantage of the extra damage. In a tight squeeze, use both hands. Thanks for watching 😁
It's actually more beneficial to stack additional magic damage. If you have at least 5 additional and a epic spellbok, you add 10 damage. With scaling, (50% is very achievable) thats THIRTY damage per second. That is 150 base magical damage. With apex sorcery to get to 100, thats 40 damage every second. What's 40 times 5? 200. Fair and balanced. The only counter is magic resist barb.
As Book Worm said, additional magic damage does not scale with MPB (same as true damage). True damage typically always does more because it ignores resistances
@LuckyGoober it is not useless against people with low MR like fighters, also how additional phys dmg works great against people who don't have the best PDR, true dmg usually works best only really at higher gear scores where everyone usually rocks great PDR or MR etc, you'll find additional dmg is great at lower gear score lobbies, m8ght have to give it a crack and see for yourself
Damn thanks for reminding me how ray of darkness pales in comparison to lightning bolt. 1 lightning bolt can auto track once you hit them once. 2 lightning bolt can track through walls. 3 lightning bolt slows the target down. 4 lightning bolt has 10damage(100% scaling) while ray of darkness has 12damage(100%scaling) I'll take lightning bolt anytime anyday anywhere
I think the proper path to nerf the lightning would be first remove the ability to go through obstacles. If still too strong, then remove the lock on. If then too strong, they can go into nerfing damage. At least that's how I feel it could work. If only Warlock's Ray of Darkness had the same fear inducing power
20% slow is far too much, sorc has just about everything. Several displacement, unstant cast blocking of doorways (not even killable or phantomable) It has movement skills including a teleport and fire arrow can deal upwards of 90 base dmg before power bonus.
Sorcerer spells should be stronger singular spells (and merged) than any other class. Most spells are 38 second cd on 99% of builds, and building 35 resource only brings that down to ~25s. Fighters have sprint on the same cooldown, being able to MS cap in full plate gear, barbs the same with roar and 200+ HP Can't balance and treat sorc like a wizard or warlock, because the cooldown on spells make them fundamentally just different. A singular fireball can hit as hard as that 38 second CD lightning bolt and wizards have 6
@@TheWoWPVPAddict sure but by that logic of u could fireball 3 times during the cooldown. lets give sorcerer a 120second cooldown spell but have it be an automatic oneshot avadekedavra. we should balance it with the cooldowns in mind, but theres a diminishing return on that logic. even at high cooldown no singular spell should have 90dmg befor scaling at instacast. and fire arrows is only 12 seconds cooldown too. lightning bolt deal far more damage than a fireball, its unmissable, it slows, goes through walls ANd you can offhand cast while using it.
I hope they nerf lighrning bolt but buff some of the other spells, in particular you're only using 2 merged spells 99% of the time and merging is one of the coolest features of the class.
Warlock has been tough this season with the new MDR curve and lack of any updates. I’ve played some but nowhere near as much as Sorc, it’s just so much more fun to deal damage with more than 2 spells 😂🥲
Same here brother, most played character this season too! The great thing about bringing a book too, is the fact you have the versatility to swap between it and using bare hands too. Give it a try and let me know how you get on 😁 thanks for tuning in!
@@jarmuzz all good bro! It’s funny how things like negative cast speed can benefit you with more damage, the interaction works the exact same with Ray of Darkness too
How you doing brother? It’s been a while, I’ve been super busy. I’ve been doing some catch up on your vids😅. Still active on live streams? Also, I can’t wait for you to become a big UA-camr 🎉
Hello my friend! Hope you’re doing good 😁 I was mad ill after Christmas (legit in bed for a week) so barely had the opportunity to play or edit. Hoping to get more active with the live streams soon though 🙏 And maybe one day 🤞 we’re in the “coming up” period right now 😎
@ I’m sorry to hear that man, must of been shitty week bring ill. I’m glad you’re better now👏🏽 trying my best to get good, especially knowledge checks. For instance like how to parry/dodge attacks from spectral knight boss. Because it would be really kool if I get to play with you or with the guys. But I rather not invade your privacy. Anyways it’s very good see you back🙏🏽
Maybe I am in the minority here but I dont really have issues with sorc. Havent had any issues against sorc as warlock, druid, barb, or wizard. So long as you dont get hit by electric dash and elemental bolt the class is pretty easy to kill.
I tend to agree with you bro, I just think people need time to learn how the class works rather than calling it OP (although I do think lightning bolt probably shouldn’t go through terrain). The best way to learn the class’s weakness is by playing it and I imagine most people don’t want to learn it with how complicated it is to pilot 😂
Lightning Bolt definitely needs some nerfing, completely unnecessary for it to damage through obstacles. I think the rest of the class is fine though IMO. I think it’s more of a case that the player base needs to learn how to play with and against it (same as all other classes). Depending on who you ask, someone will tell you the class sucks, someone else will tell you it’s OP. Thanks for watching 😁
@@Drathrin I mean... No. I cannot fathom how people don't see this - I main wizard and sorc is just wizard better in everything. More damage, more spells, more aoe and can be usefull in melee at the same time. It's also 10x easier to use when most spells have gigantic area.
It's op if u know what u doing u can still get 2 tapped by barbs druids can kill u easy they op n a rogue can rat n kill u sorc a good class it's not op
Sure, you can get the bonus dmg of the book with lightning bolt... Or you could just cast 3 or 4 spells simultaneously on left hand for more dps and controll
I hear where you’re coming from but I think it’s situational. I think cases where you’re close-up to somebody you’re completely right; being able to cast a wind blast with another spell to keep someone off you is great for DPS and kiting. However if you have space between your target, using a book when you already have good gear makes a crazy difference to your damage. Thanks for watching 😊
Outside of Lightning Bolt travelling through walls, I actually think Sorc is pretty balanced right now. Incredibly hard to play but highly rewarding for those who put in the time!
I use it mainly for Electric Dash/Melee focussed builds too! I just wanted to make a video showcasing how stupid the spell is so it hopefully gets some adjustments 🙏
Lightning Bolt nerfs incoming don’t worry 😁 curious as to why you think this is the worst season though? Nothing has come close to how bad the multiclassing season was for me.
@@JarPapa no worst season for me. despite all the questionable things IM has done, there's always something new. multiclassing was def rough if you had bad RNG. all though iron will crossbow mastery fighter was cracked.
He's back! Let's gooooo! with the ever present power creep of cloth abuser the natural solution isn't to nerf but instead to buff ranger to put a natural threat at a distance and also make arrow types a thing so we can diversify our damage types ironmace i know you read these.
We need poison/fire/frost arrows ASAPPPPP 🔥
BRUH! the knocking the barbarian back into the water bolt for a head shot was the sickest shit I've ever seen lol!!!
Probably one of the sickest things I’ve done on this game too! I’m hoping to be able to pull off more cool shit with the more time I put on the class 🙏
11:17 is just insane...
That vortex into the water ball was crazy af, ur goated
Haha thank you brother! It felt so awesome when I landed it 😂🔥
Honestly how does this even take any thought to pull off. An ability that locks on and will continue to damage through walls is just fucking ridiculously broken
I know brother, Lightning Bolt is absolutely ridiculous. I wanted to showcase how much stupider it can be when you build into it. I’m sure Iron Mace will remove the damage through obstacles/terrain in one of the following hotfixes soon.
Thanks for watching 😁
@joshp7940 u say that but a barb can still run at u with iron will then your dead or a rogue in stealth can kill u in 5 hits if they land mine u all chr in this game have a broken macanic I don't want them to fix it all u do is walk back soon as the lighting hits u n your out of range that's what I do not that hard to kill a sorc iv only died 3 times to a sorc n it's by 3rd party the class needs fixing so far from op
@@GinLxrd thats a really shit perspective.
If you get hit by lightning bolt and ur not already at the very very furthest spot in its range you simply wont outrun it since it steal 60 movementspeed from you.
Barb with ironwill can still be killed, blocked, crowdcontrolled etc.
Rogues get counter in very many ways, we got hydras (lightning bolt too) light orbs all to check for invis.
Wiz has ice shield, warlocks have phantomize (which they often still get of)
Druids have dreamwalk or chicken form
Barbs, fighters, bards, plate clerics all survive more than long enough on pure bulk for teammates to help or to outright fight back.
And that is just IF a rogue gets to a good target without being caught or chipped.
Only reason ppl moan about rogue is cuz if you lost that fight you lost it BEFORE you trade hits.
Via not staying near teammates, not being aware there might be a rogue, not having a plan for it (like ice shield or dreamwalk)
On the other hand lightning bolt will auto find and kill most light classes.
And teleport lightning shield will just outright kill any non mdr character.
And thats 2 spells, the guy has more movement, displacement and other massive dmg spells to use.
Sorcerer is even more broken than peak panther and that shit was beyond wack
@mikahoolwerff3563 I get what your saying but it's one skill vs like u said druid in panther can jump on me im silenced n dead in 4 hits. All I'm saying sorc not that bad if u was playing back on play test 2 so many class was broken back then conpair to this version it's not that bad in my opinion. Sorc so buggy have u even played it u would get it. Day one sorc was op with the storm kill I was kill full teams with one skill that needed to be nerfed n it was by the 2nd day but druid still op till this day I play druid n get easy kills way faster than I do on sorc
@@GinLxrd I think you are both kind of right.. It is op ...the dmg is too much especially the scaling for true dmg.. But people dont realize that sorc actually needs something like that. I want the spell to keep going through walls and doors but with less dmg and less slow. Some classes just got nothing against sorc(like most classes have nothing against landmine rogue, panther druid, tm lock) but if you try to push into the lightning bolt instead of trying to stay out of range you will see that sorcs are easier to deal with. It needs a nerf but if you nerf it too much sorc is dead. I played alot of HR sorc the past days and good players counter you ez if they have HP and speed, people just dont know how to play vs sorc yet. If you eat all 5 hits from lightning bolt its a skill issue, the only way you can safely do this as sorc, is if you lighning orb/bolt at the same time and if both of those are on CD you have lost the fight usually.
If it doesnt go through walls sorc is cooked aswell.. everybody can escape from a sorc.. its the slowest class with the slowest interaction speed.. Nobody complains about ranger/rogue being fast and opening doors quicker its is effectively the same thing as L bolt going through doors. And it being able to hit phantomize/dreamwalk is the most beautiful thing ever since those are some of the cheesiest uncounterable abilities/perks in the game.
The main problem with spellbook I find not so much merges, but overall losing ability to cast two spells at the same time. Dramatically increases kiting potential
That and the fact you also suffer a -10MS penalty too. I think it’s very situational; if you have the space to use a book (especially in team environments) then it’s great to take advantage of the extra damage. In a tight squeeze, use both hands.
Thanks for watching 😁
Good video man!
Thank you my man, I appreciate it! 😁
I love your content!
Thank you brother 😁 slightly different editing style to my usual content this time, but it was good fun making it. Glad to hear you’re enjoying it ❤
It's actually more beneficial to stack additional magic damage. If you have at least 5 additional and a epic spellbok, you add 10 damage. With scaling, (50% is very achievable) thats THIRTY damage per second. That is 150 base magical damage. With apex sorcery to get to 100, thats 40 damage every second. What's 40 times 5? 200. Fair and balanced. The only counter is magic resist barb.
additional/true dmg is not scaled by mpb
As Book Worm said, additional magic damage does not scale with MPB (same as true damage). True damage typically always does more because it ignores resistances
Additional only scales with hit locations sadly.
@@bookworm5971 fat F. I wish it did scale. Would be more beneficial than true in some cases and not be a useless enchant.
@LuckyGoober it is not useless against people with low MR like fighters, also how additional phys dmg works great against people who don't have the best PDR, true dmg usually works best only really at higher gear scores where everyone usually rocks great PDR or MR etc, you'll find additional dmg is great at lower gear score lobbies, m8ght have to give it a crack and see for yourself
8:51
Pure gold
WHAT HAVE I DONE?! 😟😟😟😟
Just take my like, 20s in the video and I'm crying on the sith lord joke. Well done. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Hahaha there’s plenty more where that came from bro! Welcome to the channel and hope you enjoyed the rest of the video 😁
Damn thanks for reminding me how ray of darkness pales in comparison to lightning bolt. 1 lightning bolt can auto track once you hit them once. 2 lightning bolt can track through walls. 3 lightning bolt slows the target down. 4 lightning bolt has 10damage(100% scaling) while ray of darkness has 12damage(100%scaling) I'll take lightning bolt anytime anyday anywhere
It’s actually so sad, Ray of Darkness needs some serious love 😭
Certified Jar Banger
Instead of complaining about this I’m going to this out for myself ✊🏽😭
That’s the spirit! 😂🔥
I think the proper path to nerf the lightning would be first remove the ability to go through obstacles. If still too strong, then remove the lock on. If then too strong, they can go into nerfing damage. At least that's how I feel it could work. If only Warlock's Ray of Darkness had the same fear inducing power
I agree, definitely seems like the most logical way to treat the spell! Hopefully IM take this route instead of gutting it into the ground 🙏
20% slow is far too much, sorc has just about everything.
Several displacement, unstant cast blocking of doorways (not even killable or phantomable)
It has movement skills including a teleport and fire arrow can deal upwards of 90 base dmg before power bonus.
@@mikahoolwerff3563 true
Sorcerer spells should be stronger singular spells (and merged) than any other class.
Most spells are 38 second cd on 99% of builds, and building 35 resource only brings that down to ~25s.
Fighters have sprint on the same cooldown, being able to MS cap in full plate gear, barbs the same with roar and 200+ HP
Can't balance and treat sorc like a wizard or warlock, because the cooldown on spells make them fundamentally just different. A singular fireball can hit as hard as that 38 second CD lightning bolt and wizards have 6
@@TheWoWPVPAddict sure but by that logic of u could fireball 3 times during the cooldown.
lets give sorcerer a 120second cooldown spell but have it be an automatic oneshot avadekedavra.
we should balance it with the cooldowns in mind, but theres a diminishing return on that logic.
even at high cooldown no singular spell should have 90dmg befor scaling at instacast. and fire arrows is only 12 seconds cooldown too.
lightning bolt deal far more damage than a fireball, its unmissable, it slows, goes through walls ANd you can offhand cast while using it.
great video 😂
Thanks brother! Welcome to the channel 😁
I hope they nerf lighrning bolt but buff some of the other spells, in particular you're only using 2 merged spells 99% of the time and merging is one of the coolest features of the class.
if only warlock was this strong 😢
He used to be. Wouldn't be shocked if Sorcerer gets nerfed
If they fix the taser then it's pretty much a fair fight. With IM they're gonna over nerf it like a dumb dumb
Warlock is broken with bis gear. Kinda like ranger
Warlock has been tough this season with the new MDR curve and lack of any updates. I’ve played some but nowhere near as much as Sorc, it’s just so much more fun to deal damage with more than 2 spells 😂🥲
It also sucks that the curse of weakness buff they mentioned (reduced physical and magical damage reduction) never actually went through.
Sorc fun i definitely need to use a book more i only pulled it out for lighting, iv been enjoying sorc my most played chr this wipe
Same here brother, most played character this season too! The great thing about bringing a book too, is the fact you have the versatility to swap between it and using bare hands too.
Give it a try and let me know how you get on 😁 thanks for tuning in!
The water ball trick shot lmaooo
It went hard I can’t lie 😂🌪️💧
is this how true damage is calculated? I thought true only added to total dmg, not the damage per second tick?
Running mana fold makes lightning bolt last longer
But it also makes you 5% slower, I personally don’t think it’s worth the trade off 😅
@JarPapa just an observation
@@jarmuzz all good bro! It’s funny how things like negative cast speed can benefit you with more damage, the interaction works the exact same with Ray of Darkness too
How you doing brother? It’s been a while, I’ve been super busy. I’ve been doing some catch up on your vids😅. Still active on live streams? Also, I can’t wait for you to become a big UA-camr 🎉
Hello my friend!
Hope you’re doing good 😁 I was mad ill after Christmas (legit in bed for a week) so barely had the opportunity to play or edit. Hoping to get more active with the live streams soon though 🙏
And maybe one day 🤞 we’re in the “coming up” period right now 😎
@ I’m sorry to hear that man, must of been shitty week bring ill. I’m glad you’re better now👏🏽 trying my best to get good, especially knowledge checks. For instance like how to parry/dodge attacks from spectral knight boss. Because it would be really kool if I get to play with you or with the guys. But I rather not invade your privacy. Anyways it’s very good see you back🙏🏽
Maybe I am in the minority here but I dont really have issues with sorc. Havent had any issues against sorc as warlock, druid, barb, or wizard. So long as you dont get hit by electric dash and elemental bolt the class is pretty easy to kill.
I tend to agree with you bro, I just think people need time to learn how the class works rather than calling it OP (although I do think lightning bolt probably shouldn’t go through terrain). The best way to learn the class’s weakness is by playing it and I imagine most people don’t want to learn it with how complicated it is to pilot 😂
jark and jarker
At roughly 3 minutes in, do you think that bolt is hitting him? It isn't.
Yea I don’t think it is either. The lightning would be doing the swirly thing if it is plus you have to hit them before they go into cover
I realised whilst editing that it didn’t actually do any damage. I believe it has to lock onto them initially for it to track through obstacles.
GOD DAMN THIS DMG IS CRAZY (im still to bad to make it work tho)
practice makes perfect
@Royced5 fr
You got this King 🙏
@@JarPapa thx bro i hope you are right lol
if they dont nerf sorc by next week u get mana sphere and become thanos
That’s what I’m hoping for 😂⚡️ it’ll be so disgusting
11:18 😮💨
Honestly bro I impressed myself with that one 😂🌪️
Can't wait for the class to be properly nerfed. Right now it's dnd on easy mode.
Lightning Bolt definitely needs some nerfing, completely unnecessary for it to damage through obstacles. I think the rest of the class is fine though IMO. I think it’s more of a case that the player base needs to learn how to play with and against it (same as all other classes). Depending on who you ask, someone will tell you the class sucks, someone else will tell you it’s OP.
Thanks for watching 😁
I have been refusing to try sorcerer just because of how overpowered it is. That damage output.
lol good luck getting good at it. everyone cries at each class being OP. Its OP in the right hands just like any class.
@@Drathrin I mean... No. I cannot fathom how people don't see this - I main wizard and sorc is just wizard better in everything. More damage, more spells, more aoe and can be usefull in melee at the same time. It's also 10x easier to use when most spells have gigantic area.
It's op if u know what u doing u can still get 2 tapped by barbs druids can kill u easy they op n a rogue can rat n kill u sorc a good class it's not op
My brother in Christ have you seen wizard
The reason sorc is good is cc, not dmg
Sure, you can get the bonus dmg of the book with lightning bolt... Or you could just cast 3 or 4 spells simultaneously on left hand for more dps and controll
I hear where you’re coming from but I think it’s situational.
I think cases where you’re close-up to somebody you’re completely right; being able to cast a wind blast with another spell to keep someone off you is great for DPS and kiting.
However if you have space between your target, using a book when you already have good gear makes a crazy difference to your damage.
Thanks for watching 😊
I think sorc for a long time is gonna be broken or trash... And at this state broken
Outside of Lightning Bolt travelling through walls, I actually think Sorc is pretty balanced right now. Incredibly hard to play but highly rewarding for those who put in the time!
I've literally stopped using Lightning Bolt against other players because it's not fun. I keep it for Electric Dash and PvE, but that's it.
I use it mainly for Electric Dash/Melee focussed builds too! I just wanted to make a video showcasing how stupid the spell is so it hopefully gets some adjustments 🙏
The nerf wasn't enough this season is the worst season of them all.
Yeah Sorc is a meme.
@BlairetheRed yh The guy is basically walling, aimbotting. And teleport kitting while having spells to slow ms an action speed
Lightning Bolt nerfs incoming don’t worry 😁 curious as to why you think this is the worst season though? Nothing has come close to how bad the multiclassing season was for me.
@@masterkiller990hes not a bad player by any means, I get how its the new class and people want to try it out. Its just not fun to play against lol.
@@JarPapa no worst season for me. despite all the questionable things IM has done, there's always something new. multiclassing was def rough if you had bad RNG. all though iron will crossbow mastery fighter was cracked.
How stupid do you have to be to add a spell that locks on and goes through walls??? These devs are cooked
have u tried high vigor build ? i saw 1 guy with 186health and kuma fang
Another trash build