Joseph Campbell--Mythology of the First City States

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  • @ClemsyDiggs
    @ClemsyDiggs 13 років тому +60

    Just an FYI: If not for the tireless work of everyone at the Joseph Campbell Foundation, none of these clips would exist. People were hired to put these videos together from mountains of raw footage. Nothing comes for free. The JCF is a not-for-profit organization running on a shoe string budget. Maintaining copyrights not only protects the foundation legally, but helps offset the cost of continuing to collate and publish unreleased material. There is a lot more to come. Please support the JCF.

    • @nc01sadh
      @nc01sadh 3 роки тому +2

      @ clemsy diggs. Ads from UA-cam would alone make lots of money to the cambell foundation than having few ppl buying the videos. So why not put the whole video in youtube? UA-cam is not national it's international. Kinda like coke/Pepsi.

  • @prospero6337
    @prospero6337 6 років тому +80

    He is the mark of the highest most honest fascinated intelligence....a joy to listen

    • @rudy103069
      @rudy103069 2 роки тому

      seem a little stressed? but i like what he has to say.

    • @blacklightfamilycircle4425
      @blacklightfamilycircle4425 2 роки тому

      Wow … I love listening to him … he makes it make so much sense.

  • @hanson666999
    @hanson666999 11 років тому +46

    wow
    what I wouldn't give for a gods eye view of ancient history.
    Campbell makes history come to life with his thrilling narration.

    • @HarryWolf
      @HarryWolf 3 роки тому +3

      @Dee Seee Then why are you here? 😂😂😂

    • @HarryWolf
      @HarryWolf 3 роки тому +2

      @Dee Seee A clown? You've just betrayed your stunning ignorance for all to see. Campbell has led more people to a greater understanding of the divine and sacred than any ill-informed comment of yours.
      Now go and watch some cat videos - or better still, some on punctuation - and leave alone those trying to understand the mystery of being. Your God should be ashamed of you.

    • @HarryWolf
      @HarryWolf 3 роки тому +2

      @Dee Seee I came across Campbell long before UA-cam was a thing, idiot 😂
      If all men lie then doesn't that apply to you also? Or do you consider your petty little self divine? Seriously, learn some grammar, syntax and punctuation - you might come across with a little more credibility.
      Those cat videos won't watch themselves. Get to it! 😁

    • @HarryWolf
      @HarryWolf 3 роки тому +1

      @Dee Seee What's truly pathetic is your attempt to appear knowledgeable. You're a clown and an unfunny one at that. And please don't assume what I believe as I'm embarrassed for you.
      Now go and play in the shallow end of human understanding because you're drowning 😂😂😂

    • @HarryWolf
      @HarryWolf 3 роки тому +1

      @Dee Seee Ah, what some WHITE freemason tells me. That comment tells me all I need to know about you . . . 😁

  • @btetschner
    @btetschner 5 років тому +29

    He is so brilliant, thank you for your contributions Joseph Campbell!
    Thanks for the upload too.

  • @olddoggeleventy2718
    @olddoggeleventy2718 2 роки тому +3

    Essential history that is taught without prejudicial leanings nor glossed over with condescending smugness. A great scholar.

  • @4EMF
    @4EMF 11 років тому +9

    What the media says about a person has no value to me. If Mr. Campbell is a racist, then I am sad for his soul, but I have only gained good things from this man. What we focus on rises to the top. In other words, we are what we think, and what we say of others is most often, about our own selves.

    • @miloc6507
      @miloc6507 Рік тому

      They tried to say my guy was racist?:0

  • @4EMF
    @4EMF 11 років тому +17

    I have done the research and read his works with open eyes, open mind, and open heart. I don't care what he was, or how he lived his life. What he wrote about about (and lived) made my life and my world better, and he did the same for many.

    • @racorker
      @racorker 4 роки тому

      What do you mean "what he was"?

    • @4EMF
      @4EMF 4 роки тому

      Robert Corker That was 7 years ago! In essence? It’s more about the message than the messenger.

    • @racorker
      @racorker 4 роки тому +1

      @@4EMF what did you mean "what he was", though? Gay, vegan, crossfitter, motorcyclist, Buddhist, Patriots fan? What exactly was he besides a scholar?

    • @4EMF
      @4EMF 4 роки тому

      Robert Corker doesn’t matter what he was or wasn’t - what he shared with the world made the world a better place

    • @4EMF
      @4EMF 4 роки тому

      spiro no box

  • @cosmoscripts2422
    @cosmoscripts2422 3 роки тому +1

    So appreciate being able to listen to this remarkable scholar, a true gift to anyone seeking wisdom outside of their cultural box. Thank you for posting these talks.

  • @leehambleton4762
    @leehambleton4762 2 роки тому +4

    I can watch Mr. Campbell all day. You don't want to miss a word, a sentence as there are gems throughout.

  • @cjwright79
    @cjwright79 11 років тому +33

    I play a lot of Age of Empires III and I find the wall to be the most essential structure in the game. It saves you from having to mount a panicked defense of your settlement when the barbarian hordes arrive. It gives you room to breathe and time to think.

    • @tenaciousdfan9
      @tenaciousdfan9 4 роки тому +2

      Wise words :p

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive 4 роки тому +4

      Perennially relevant

    • @lucianon.carvalho6929
      @lucianon.carvalho6929 3 роки тому +1

      Furthermore, the strategic advantage of having walls is such that the game made it very costly (at least in AoE2). Especially when you compare to the resources needed to build other buildings.

    • @eppurse
      @eppurse 3 роки тому

      I'll bet you are something to contend with wherever you go

    • @gezzapk
      @gezzapk 3 роки тому +2

      Must add to that by putting watch towers at each corner and highly targeted areas.

  • @Yahiko25
    @Yahiko25 14 років тому +10

    Campbell is one of my greatest heroes.

  • @andrestobon3696
    @andrestobon3696 Рік тому

    Thank you joseph and to the person who put this on youtube...you arevawesome.

  • @davidhinkle7478
    @davidhinkle7478 11 років тому +5

    A huge influence in my life. Brilliant!

  • @motosagela
    @motosagela 3 роки тому +1

    Incredible. Such an encyclopedic knowledge. Fascinating about the origins of our cultures, myths, and cultures.

  • @jesusisbling
    @jesusisbling 14 років тому +5

    Netflix has several Campbell videos you can stream...

  • @4EMF
    @4EMF 11 років тому +2

    Robert, I think you're best bet to find the whole series, besides ordering and purchasing it, is through your local library. It is well worth the effort.

  • @TomYawns
    @TomYawns 11 років тому +26

    the system of education here wasn't made to engage students into this kind of
    wisdom

    • @projektsolmuzique3669
      @projektsolmuzique3669 5 років тому +2

      Definitely not. Nor does it promote crtical nor creative thinking. Twas created to make slaves, program the minds of youth a certain way, and that's what it do. om mu qui.

    • @detrockcity3
      @detrockcity3 4 роки тому +2

      You would almost think it was created to do the opposite. If you go with actual function as definition, that's what the apparatus seems to do. Makes all useful information, and the gathering and processing thereof, entirely boring by association with either rote memorization or worse yet, today's claptrap...

    • @detrockcity3
      @detrockcity3 4 роки тому +3

      @@projektsolmuzique3669 just smart enough to work the machines & just content enough, or with just enough to lose, to not become unruly...

    • @stac123100
      @stac123100 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly

  • @4EMF
    @4EMF 14 років тому +11

    Joseph Campbell was a huge influence in my life. Many people now do not know of his rich contribution to humanity; the Sacredness of Life shared by ALL CULTURES regardless of different religions and languages. We are all telling the same story/myth with different words/symbols. I am glad there is a foundation to honor him, but your videos do no justice to the Power of this man and the words he spoke. Please vitalize this channel. It will be appreciated by many. Thank you.

    • @brianthomason5022
      @brianthomason5022 3 роки тому

      Ten years ago. You were on bath salts when you wrote this

    • @4EMF
      @4EMF 3 роки тому

      @@brianthomason5022 You may have a point here (bath salts?) lol. I must have been reacting off someone’s detrimental comment about Joseph Campbell. I’ve nothing but respect for the man. And my comment about revitalizing this channel? Looks very fine to me now. Do not know how it was set up 8-10 years ago. Peace.

  • @ClemsyDiggs
    @ClemsyDiggs 13 років тому +2

    @theutd: Actually, Campbell's work is used by many, many teachers. I show the first episode of The Power of Myth to my senior classes, and know of quite a few educators who use the steps in the Hero Journey. Indeed, I emphasize with my seniors that graduation IS crossing the threshold...

  • @tom6612
    @tom6612 14 років тому +3

    @theutd - Our present system is one that depends on conformity and submission to authority. If Campbell's work was taught to school children it would be harder to mold people into what the system wants. For example Campbell talks about how the process of maturing involves finding your own path in life and how western tradition was built on questioning authority. This explains why we have so many problems. Our system is completely at odds with human nature and our history.

  • @neilpollicino80
    @neilpollicino80 3 роки тому +1

    To learn is to grow to be willing to learn is growth

  • @samdembling
    @samdembling 11 років тому +4

    Though we definitely should more, it's funny you should mention it because we study Joseph Campbell pretty extensively in the comparative religion class in my school.

    • @detrockcity3
      @detrockcity3 4 роки тому +1

      Definitely. He's a key figure in that study.

  • @esoteric2slr
    @esoteric2slr 10 років тому +18

    Correction: Joseph Campbell spoke of 10,000 BC, not 10,000 years ago (as incorrectly mentioned in this video description) as the period when domestication of certain animals occurs in the Near East.

    • @deadeyepg7323
      @deadeyepg7323 7 років тому +4

      Correction: Joseph Campbell spoke of 8,000 BC, which is 10,000 years ago (as incorrectly mentioned in this video's comment section by esoteric2slr)

    • @saemushailstorm3135
      @saemushailstorm3135 6 років тому

      aahhh - compelled to be so 'right' about things spoke of in general sense , are you sunshine..?
      - whats it like to be so 'constipated' , hmmm...?

    • @johnrodgers2018
      @johnrodgers2018 5 років тому

      I thought Sumer was the first civilisation around 3500bc ?

  • @nicholaswebster1
    @nicholaswebster1 3 роки тому +1

    not fully certain every video on this channel needs to have a 25 second intro but oh well

  • @Soldier957
    @Soldier957 6 років тому +5

    Where can I find full-length lectures by J. C.?

    • @danqueseq01
      @danqueseq01 5 років тому

      Search UA-cam " Michelle Barajas-espinoza Joseph Campbell"

    • @collier6794
      @collier6794 5 років тому

      Netflix

  • @sergkaizen5342
    @sergkaizen5342 8 років тому +11

    Genius

  • @profileprofile7028
    @profileprofile7028 2 роки тому

    I wonder what his thoughts were on more ancient human civilizations? I wonder if he truly bought into the theory humans didn't build earlier than 10,000 years ago

  • @dafflad1
    @dafflad1 4 роки тому +2

    I’ve been awoken

  • @AnyoneCanSee
    @AnyoneCanSee 11 років тому

    I have just come across him for the very first time as he was cited as inspiration for an artist I love. I was trying to find the 6 part documentary he made just before his death. "The Power of Myth". Do you or anyone else know where I might find this on the web. I cannot find it on UA-cam.

    • @jjayneartworkx
      @jjayneartworkx 7 років тому

      Robert J. Williamson google for bill Moyers who did the interview or pbs who aired it. I donated to pbs for the dvd 2 decades ago!

    • @johndecicco
      @johndecicco 5 років тому

      My wife of 41 years died in December. Going through some old VHS video tapes, I found "The Power of Myth" I recorded off PBS when it first aired. I taped it on the slowest speed so although the quality is poor, all six hours fit onto one tape. As @J Jayne said, you can probably still get it from PBS or Bill Moyers.

  • @jeschinstad
    @jeschinstad 12 років тому

    Because wisdom is too cool to be taught in schools. The internet is relatively unbounded, yet every day, another great story teller dies of old age without ever finding his or her way onto UA-cam. That's the disaster, but one that we can easily prevent if we want to. These stories will never become uninteresting.

  • @peteepablo3035
    @peteepablo3035 Рік тому

    Who are these priests he talks about that controls us, spiritually, astrolgically and myths he spoke of????

  • @bushrodlake2751
    @bushrodlake2751 9 днів тому

    There's been some newer interpretations of city formation, group dynamics, who hunts and who forages that doesn't support some of Mr. Campbell's opinions. But they're interesting (Campbell's) anyway.

  • @babybudd9626
    @babybudd9626 11 років тому +2

    Google Joseph Cambell Foundation,its all there.

  • @Ptinski
    @Ptinski 13 років тому +1

    @WilhelmDrake When you let go of a self-centric life (deny yourself) and accept your burdens (take up your cross) it sounds more like a fine way to live out one's days, instead of any attachment to a figure of such acrimony and argument as Jesus - a religious figure. What has religion to do with living one's life in partnership with our burdens, making peace with them instead of fighting them? Campbell says it all best, not biblical heresay - imho.

  • @fntime
    @fntime 13 років тому +1

    @WilhelmDrake Sometimes. The bible is both a historical
    and spiritual document but, not always accurate.
    If you require the bible to be literal, then you are going to
    be disappointed.
    It is a metaphor. Exodus, is not about a tribe, who enslaved,
    becomes free and then quests for the Promise Land.
    It's about the liberation of the soul from its own enslavement.
    It's the fault of the 'religious' that people are unable to
    see the bible's wisdom & truth.

  • @sustaingainz7856
    @sustaingainz7856 3 роки тому

    What’s this about loss of serpent power?

  • @TheTimothyjtaylor
    @TheTimothyjtaylor 11 років тому +2

    The rise of the Great Pirates of Buckminster Fuller.

  • @satnamo
    @satnamo 3 роки тому +1

    De center of a city is always a temple because life wants to build itself up into das height with pillars and steps

  • @joedavis4150
    @joedavis4150 3 роки тому

    ... Don Howard Lawler, who led entheogenic plant experiences in South America, said that the Chavin culture there went longer than anybody without War, for 1,100 years. It is believed this is because Chavin was a spiritual center for the use of ayahuasca, and San Pedro cactus. The plants teach people how to be decent human beings. We need way more of this. Now, in 2021, sacred plant use is increasing. The decriminalize nature movement and the thank you plant medicine movement is helping with this. We have had way too much random willy-nilly criminalizing of sacred plants in the United States.

  • @schwerblech
    @schwerblech 11 років тому +1

    "They" don't want us to know....

  • @RockandRoll2471
    @RockandRoll2471 12 років тому

    I learn about this guy in my school, I go to an alternative school though.

  • @Astynax27432
    @Astynax27432 11 років тому

    How in the hell is that an explanation?

  • @MorganStuart
    @MorganStuart 4 роки тому

    Brilliant!

  • @lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778
    @lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778 2 роки тому

    This man is brilliant 👌👍🏻 his a great genius.
    Especially when he was talking and comparing the indo europeans with the semitics.

  • @villiestephanov984
    @villiestephanov984 5 років тому

    So it came to pass at the 40 days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made. The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether and Mash. Arphaxad begot Salah, and Salah begot Eber. Then he sent out a Raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. And Abraham said ,
    " My Son God, will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering." ( Yjas ) Look at the Ravens how they neither toll nor till the ground and God Himself provide for them.

  • @davidbermudez7704
    @davidbermudez7704 12 років тому

    Cultures, nations and people change!

    • @auggied6760
      @auggied6760 3 роки тому

      ...but the human mind, the conditioning of the mind to create the egoic self, and the struggle for and against power has never changed.

  • @CobainLennon8094
    @CobainLennon8094 13 років тому

    @jhgosnell I agree that some could handle it, but the ones that could handle it wouldn't be the ones that would be standing in front picketing the schools.Theyre still debating whether to still teach evolution in the South. It's really sad...

  • @hamptongray4860
    @hamptongray4860 4 роки тому

    Reminds me of the film Seven Samurai

  • @zaroffhound
    @zaroffhound 11 років тому +3

    ...and now we have people specializing in being celebrated...the media acting as priesthood.

    • @fkerpants
      @fkerpants 5 років тому +1

      And it's scary how bad it's gotten, no?

    • @racorker
      @racorker 4 роки тому

      What? No the priesthood acts as the priesthood. The media reports what people will click or read. It's that people are willing to put trash (Fox News) in their minds that makes makes them profitable. You are viewing media now, silly. Do you just mean journalists who report truthfully about things you have delusions about?

    • @racorker
      @racorker 4 роки тому

      @@fkerpants No

    • @fkerpants
      @fkerpants 4 роки тому

      @@racorker
      "It's that people are willing to put trash (Fox News) in their minds that makes makes them profitable."
      Is there anyone worse than Fox News?
      "Do you just mean journalists who report truthfully about things you have delusions about?
      "
      Why do you think this person is delusional?

  • @michaeljordan4737
    @michaeljordan4737 4 роки тому +1

    Would have been cool to see Joseph Campbell talk with Randal Carlson and Graham Hancock.

  • @JrJ2016
    @JrJ2016 5 років тому

    Agriculture started in India. This guy is super intellectual but his data is outdated. First animal to be domistocated are Cows. Cows are the sole reason for human kind to settle down and farm and use milk as food untill next crop grows. Cows enabled agriculutre. This happened in Hindustan 10k years ago.

    • @knawl
      @knawl 3 роки тому +1

      Boy are you misinformed

  • @aikijb
    @aikijb 3 роки тому

    💫🙏💫

  • @chiefindisguise
    @chiefindisguise Рік тому

  • @ssssaintmarcus
    @ssssaintmarcus 13 років тому +1

    @theutd bc schools r not meant to educate. instead, they r meant to indoctrinate....ther is a huge difference as i believe u r aware.

  • @Danniegg
    @Danniegg 14 років тому +1

    What he says makes a lot of sense, and it's fascinating to listen. I guess he didn't gain a broader recognition in his country because he treats the stories of the Bible as what they are - another set of myths. It makes Christians angry.

  • @scheenafarmer3979
    @scheenafarmer3979 2 роки тому

    1:31 - all people were hunters and root and gathers on the ...

  • @JrJ2016
    @JrJ2016 5 років тому

    Indoeuropeans are indians who moved to Europen and not other way.

    • @knawl
      @knawl 3 роки тому +1

      No they were central asians that moved into Europe, the middle east and India

  • @Flashing_Rider
    @Flashing_Rider Рік тому

    research, research, research!

  • @combatantezoteric2965
    @combatantezoteric2965 6 років тому +1

    Why do people in comments use the term "empirical" so much and so wrong? Just saying...

  • @stac123100
    @stac123100 3 роки тому

    Main point - we been lied too

  • @robertron5107
    @robertron5107 3 роки тому

    Qual de todass,,..

  • @joedavis4150
    @joedavis4150 3 роки тому

    ... Interesting.... Riane Eisler, in her book, the chalice and the blade, wrote that 10000 BC was approximately the time the culture changed from a partnership culture to a dominator culture. The Dominator culture has been getting worse ever since.

  • @jhgosnell
    @jhgosnell 13 років тому

    @CobainLennon8094 The traditional-literal minded Christians would freak out. Some can handle it, maybe rare, but some can...

  • @jackgoldman1
    @jackgoldman1 4 роки тому

    The greatest generation. Not to be confused with baby boom, millennials, get x, all in decline due to social media and divisive devises. Are we in decline?

  • @Dunkaroos248
    @Dunkaroos248 13 років тому +1

    His writing is so esoteric, you need a BA in English or Theology just to understand what he's writing. The man was an amazing brain

    • @Spvrdx
      @Spvrdx 3 роки тому

      Bull crap

    • @Dunkaroos248
      @Dunkaroos248 3 роки тому

      @@Spvrdx ok, well thought out and supported opinion. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Thutmosis7
    @Thutmosis7 11 років тому

    Cherub origin is from egypt not mesopotamia.

  • @robertmitchell8630
    @robertmitchell8630 7 років тому +2

    Lord Krishna in his war chariot
    the indo Aryans

  • @villiestephanov984
    @villiestephanov984 5 років тому

    Hello Mecca:)

  • @alrodriguez4325
    @alrodriguez4325 2 роки тому

    GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME THANK YOU JESUS FOR SENDING YOUR SON TO DIE FOR MY SINS PEOPLE WHY DON'T BELIEVE I'LL KEEP Y'ALL IN MY PRAYERS!!!!!!

  • @landotter
    @landotter 13 років тому

    Joe's the man

  • @Eli_pl4yz
    @Eli_pl4yz 4 роки тому

    0:23 start

  • @andrewstephens8790
    @andrewstephens8790 Рік тому

    The first cities. Man's greatest mistake.

  • @hebince44
    @hebince44 10 років тому +2

    Did I just hear that last part right? Starting from 8:19: Were the ancient people governed and their cities coordinated and validated by ancient extraterrestrials? Interesting...

    • @glennsimmons5473
      @glennsimmons5473 8 років тому +6

      +hebince44 He did not say that. If you knew his work better, you would know that he believed nothing of the kind.

    • @gabrielorville821
      @gabrielorville821 5 років тому +1

      You really did read into that whatever you wanted didn't you? -- Christianity, or any religion by the way, does inform it's art, architecture, values, holidays, rites language and the like so it's not a bad assessment to put it the way Campbell did; no it's not aliens dude.

  • @thedreamisreal
    @thedreamisreal 3 роки тому

    10,000 years ago- and now we have Old men and their convoluted stories, when academia doesn't have a clue

  • @jpbetancourt
    @jpbetancourt 3 роки тому

    📜

  • @watzreal
    @watzreal 11 років тому

    Because textbooks are all written by one person

  • @CobainLennon8094
    @CobainLennon8094 13 років тому

    @theutd The Christians would freak out.

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive 4 роки тому +1

    6:16 Sargon is a Jew confirmed

  • @robertron5107
    @robertron5107 3 роки тому

    We ARE AT WAR:. SOUP IT ALL UP:. PROFESSOR,.

  • @robertron5107
    @robertron5107 3 роки тому

    Feather,serpent)

  • @dracovenit9549
    @dracovenit9549 10 років тому

    Pomarium!

  • @perfectfan2006
    @perfectfan2006 4 роки тому

    the fact that the cattle sheep people most likely had way more meat for a diet and the farm people had more of a grain vegetable diet.
    because of the protein factor might have also played a part in the cattle people being big strong aggressive folks and the farm people more defence oriented and the others more offence oriented ... weird they were broken up into 3 food groups sort of how the governments of the world even to this day suggest as a diet for the people

  • @Sepken13
    @Sepken13 5 років тому

    This video is a travesty of ancient historical knowledge. Almost all the historical remarks he had made are whether incorrect or hugely anachronistic. I can not stop laughing in watching him.

    • @Sepken13
      @Sepken13 5 років тому

      I'd better to prepare a video says "why joseph campbell sucks according to actual archaeological data and historical discipline"

    • @gabrielorville821
      @gabrielorville821 5 років тому +3

      @@Sepken13 Do you have a source so I could compare, because I happen to agree with Campbell but I am open to information if his infomraiton is not fully accurate.

    • @julianblake8385
      @julianblake8385 4 роки тому +1

      well, it's been a year. Where's the video, big boy?

    • @nightdruid540
      @nightdruid540 4 роки тому

      do u have sources?
      love kieslowski btw

  • @ihp0ts
    @ihp0ts 12 років тому

    Oh dear, your comment is too darn long i simply cannot spend precious time reading it. Go pester someone else boy.

  • @bull1234
    @bull1234 6 років тому +1

    Au/dio=Gold God
    Etymology of words.

  • @polyb1123
    @polyb1123 6 років тому +1

    I hate the JCF! Let off and let Joseph's vision loose! Wait, too late for you!
    Thanks for what little you make available, your soul in eternal HELL ain't enough! Good Luck to'ya, yur gonna need it! 😶
    btw, I reserve hate for a select few, aint the JCF special!

    • @saemushailstorm3135
      @saemushailstorm3135 6 років тому

      rants of a selfcentered twisted egotistical baby who hides behind keyboard that no one 'likes'
      hey , continue to 'churn & burn' in yr private hell , apostate

  • @paulparanoid
    @paulparanoid 11 років тому

    You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Civilisation first began in ancient Mesopotamia, not Egypt. And the origins of the word "cherub" are from the Hebrew word "kĕrūbh".

  • @francemaster
    @francemaster 10 років тому +5

    When he speaks about the male/female principle in regards to herding/agriculture, I find this is (given available evidence) empirically wrong. Agriculture gave rise to more patriarchal societies, as women would before gather as much or even more than men could hunt (wealth accumulation and inheritance makes control of the wife's virginity crucial as well). As to how central or equal were women before that, evidence so far is not clear, but Jung seems to have been a bit quick in establishing the "female goddess/mother goddess" centrality withouth sufficient proof.
    I'm open to criticism, again just trying to get the empirical truth here.

    • @erikskelton6597
      @erikskelton6597 9 років тому +2

      I think he's referring to the earliest agricultural societies, especially in contrast to the proto-herding cultures adjacent to them. To my understanding, the theory goes something like one branch of these herders (often referred to as the kurgan folk) were warlike, sky-god worshippers and subjugated their earth goddess-worshipping proto-agricultural neighbors, integrating and hybridizing their mythologies giving rise to the modern male deity agricultural societies.

    • @Sugarsail1
      @Sugarsail1 9 років тому +14

      You're viewing what he's saying through a Western equality/feminist lens, not an anthropological/mythological/psychological lens. The two may be related but I think you missed his point, which is about the structure of the myths of societies and how they correlate to the economic base of sustenance. You can see an example of both mythological structures in modern society that support what he is saying...environmentalism is earth-centered/worship, matriarchal, and many of its adherents are even vegetarians, while those that raise animals for slaughter such as cattlemen in the West are more prone to patriarchal mythic structures, mainly traditional Christianity.

    • @francemaster
      @francemaster 9 років тому +1

      Sugarsail1 Im not making a political statement, but an empirical, historical statement. I'm fairly confident that given avalaible evidence in the historical social sciences, what he says about "what happened" (what actually happened) in the development of mythic structures is wrong, as was what Jung said about there being a movement from the mother goddess to a more patriarchal God. Same goes for agriculture relating to patriachy, it's not a value judgement, its an empirical matter relating to the social development of the species.

    • @WindyFellow
      @WindyFellow 9 років тому +1

      Francesco Gissi Díaz Youre wrong. Indo-European and semitic cultures were indeed much more warrior like and patriarchal than the agricultural societies. There is no dispute over this.

    • @francemaster
      @francemaster 9 років тому +1

      WindyFellow I was talking of the movement from pre-agricultural, hunter gatherer societies to agricultural societies, and that such movement increased patriarchy, which I believe to be a well substantiated statement. I don't recall mentioning indo-european or semitic cultures, but those were by any measure agricultural societies.

  • @studynerd
    @studynerd 8 років тому +4

    Go Vegan!

    • @saemushailstorm3135
      @saemushailstorm3135 6 років тому +1

      'vegans' are elitest specieist bigots who take 'satisfaction' in the raising & reaping then 'harvesting' of sentient plants
      WHO FEEL PAIN TOO !!!

  • @Thutmosis7
    @Thutmosis7 11 років тому

    I disagree with some of his facts. There is no such thing as civilization until ancient egyptians came on the scene. The arabs never had one. I should said the semites. It was when narmer when into the north east africa which is call the middle east. He brought civilization with him and deities. The semites copied their deities off ancient africans. Egypt was the first great real civilization and it lasted for 3k yrs.

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid 2 роки тому

    This is my lifes work and interests where my being lies between self help social behavior, dualism, mysticism taking the truths and commonality..studies of all religions from time and memorial and combining all the greatest strengths of wisdom 🙏...he seems very familiar like I know him for some reason..facial structure and body accent...maybe we have met in a past life haha rip Joseph Campbell hotep you were a genius scholar ..