UAL 328 UPDATE Fan Blade Failure B777-200 22 Feb 2021

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  • @BaumannJA
    @BaumannJA 4 роки тому +298

    "A white Fart in the wind" Has to be one of the best Aviation illustrations I have EVER heard! Thanks Juan. You are the Best...

    • @1701_FyldeFlyer
      @1701_FyldeFlyer 4 роки тому +2

      I thought Juan said a 'light' fart in the wind!?

    • @Eric_the_Hiking
      @Eric_the_Hiking 4 роки тому +11

      Fart in the wind
      All we are is fart in the wind

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 роки тому +3

      I think he's getting mighty personal with that comment!

    • @tonytheantony
      @tonytheantony 4 роки тому +2

      ...and no white farts in the wind when you come to London! 🇬🇧🛬✈️

    • @patrickhanna2659
      @patrickhanna2659 4 роки тому +1

      @@Eric_the_Hiking on the way to Kansas!😂

  • @zidoocfi
    @zidoocfi 4 роки тому +173

    Loved how big your smile became when you said that first officers tend to make better landings anyway.

    • @mannypuerta5086
      @mannypuerta5086 4 роки тому +3

      So I guess he is admitting his landings will deteriorate when he makes captain. Having been there, I call baloney on the concept.

    • @Sarconthewolf
      @Sarconthewolf 4 роки тому +14

      @@mannypuerta5086 I think he was joking that's why he smiled. Giving a dig to captains.

    • @mikesnowable
      @mikesnowable 4 роки тому +1

      I always thought that as well. Until I made Captain.

    • @mannypuerta5086
      @mannypuerta5086 4 роки тому

      @@mikesnowable Funny how that works.😎

    • @farayidarlingtonchaparadza20
      @farayidarlingtonchaparadza20 4 роки тому +3

      An element of truth there since FO's do most of the landings while captains handle comms in most airline SOP's anyways.

  • @localcrew
    @localcrew 4 роки тому +64

    I like that smile when you said you were going to London. Glad you’re back in the saddle.

    • @bigbadjohn10
      @bigbadjohn10 4 роки тому +2

      It is a shame London is still in full lockdown! But welcome when you arrive.

  • @FlyAVersatran
    @FlyAVersatran 4 роки тому +70

    So good!
    I'm a DEN native and had never seen your channel until a friend had an engine front ring frisbee into his neighbor's yard...
    In my past, I worked at AAPL in Developer Technical Support and would have absolutely killed to have such an employee who could describe a situation in rigorous detail, authority, prowess and finesse... WITHOUT BEING SNARKY.
    Really really good.
    All your background. All your training. Worth it.
    Thank you.
    You've got a new subscriber.

    • @williammaterna2100
      @williammaterna2100 4 роки тому +1

      Now you know why even Aussie old "Farts" dig weightless.

  • @christopherbattles1678
    @christopherbattles1678 4 роки тому +67

    So let's just remember that the fan cowling is not a structural part of the aircraft. The containment shroud held and prevented the separated fan blade from flying through the airframe and potentially turning an emergency into a catastrophe. The PW engine failure containment design did its job, and everyone walked away. Yes, people on the ground could have been hit by the falling debris, and that is something that the NTSB will surely take up, but that's a whole lot less debris than an entire airliner.

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve 4 роки тому +5

      The issue is if a inspection should had detected defects in the blade before falure.

    • @youngtimer964
      @youngtimer964 4 роки тому

      @@bindingcurve just a note - ual 232 inspection came back on United vs engine mfg (GE)

    • @highpointsights
      @highpointsights 3 роки тому

      There Trent 900 motor that failed on the quantas flight was labeled "uncontained" Cost RR a billion. Was it design failure or something else?

  • @tpelton
    @tpelton 4 роки тому +219

    can we get a round of applause for how well these planes hold together and get everyone on the ground when we have these incidents. it's pretty damned amazing i think, considering the size and power of these engines, and the forces in effect when they go ka-blooey !

    • @uzaiyaro
      @uzaiyaro 4 роки тому +9

      Sadly most great engineering (and professional training, for that matter) is written in blood. I don't want to say it's a necessary part of how good things are today, but I will say that, in general, engineers and those responsible for training today's professionals, do try to learn lessons so that those unfortunate ones did not die in vain.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 4 роки тому +3

      As an Aussie, any engine failure incident like this always reminds me of QANTAS Flight 32. Richard de Crespigny is something of a personal hero of mine along with the other aircrew and two check captains also on board that day, and the crew of United 328 (and tower/ATC personnel) displayed similar levels of professional conduct in this case. The failure mode of the engine in Flight 32's case bears mentioning in respect of your comment about "how well these planes hold together" (from Wikipedia):
      "After holding for almost two hours to assess the situation, the aircraft made a successful emergency landing at Changi. No injuries occurred to the passengers, crew, or people on the ground, despite debris from the aircraft falling onto houses in Batam.[1]
      On inspection, a turbine disc in the aircraft's number-two engine (on the port side nearest the fuselage) was found to have disintegrated, causing extensive damage to the nacelle, wing, fuel system, landing gear, flight controls, and engine controls, and a fire in a fuel tank that self-extinguished."

    • @natural-born_pilot
      @natural-born_pilot 4 роки тому +4

      Your so right and I appreciate you bringing that up Tony. With everything today that goes Tango Uniform you’ll hear nothing but negative reports by media and later brought up by the public and Boeing has had more than its share. I have no problem with that as long as it’s factual but really wish it was balanced and fair by presenting any and all positive points concerning the incident. Thank you from a retired McDonnell Douglas Boeing employee.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 4 роки тому +3

      @@uzaiyaro Same thing can be said about automotive industry and related highway infrastructure. A lot of areas of life now that I think on it.

    • @hyime69
      @hyime69 4 роки тому +1

      Tony Yes the people who Design and Maintain these Aircraft all need a Big Pat on the Back as if through the years of testing and evaluation and Trend monitoring of Engines and systems. The end result with all that happened the Aircrew did a great job the other Airport staff and Fire rescue all did what was needed and Thankfully the end result was a Safe Landing and no one Killed

  • @danielpearson6306
    @danielpearson6306 4 роки тому +434

    The talking heads on the networks makes every dramatic to sell their news to the idiots watching. Juan's channel with his knowledge and research fills in gapes without speculation. Thanks Juan.

    • @azhuntssss7628
      @azhuntssss7628 4 роки тому +6

      Perfectly said! Juan is the man!

    • @HighSpeedNoDrag
      @HighSpeedNoDrag 4 роки тому +1

      Amen and Then Some.

    • @EASTSIDERIDER707
      @EASTSIDERIDER707 4 роки тому +6

      I came here when looking for accurate information when Oroville Dam just upstream from me was in jeopardy of failure. Juan is consistently a good source of information.

    • @ginvr
      @ginvr 4 роки тому +6

      Straight down the line, no spin, no bias. one of my few trusted sources

    • @KurtisCardwell
      @KurtisCardwell 4 роки тому +1

      The best! Thank you

  • @shooter2055
    @shooter2055 4 роки тому +175

    RE fuel dump: "Let's not add fuel to that barbecue!" --fell out of my chair laughing. Gratitude. I needed that.

    • @VMCAviationVideos
      @VMCAviationVideos 4 роки тому

      Haha, it was a good point

    • @njwithers
      @njwithers 4 роки тому

      Let’s not add fuel to that fart?

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 4 роки тому +2

      It was an amusing way of making the point, and to be honest I never really considered the fact that a fuel dump in an engine emergency situation could very easily become an (unintended) dump'n'burn. Very cool when intentionally performed by an F-111 (I'm old enough to have seen it in person! RIP the RAAF Pigs) but certainly not ideal for an airliner in an engine-out. The directive seems obvious in retrospect. :)

    • @tobiaswichert4843
      @tobiaswichert4843 4 роки тому +2

      When he said that, my first thought was "Concorde"...

    • @SteamCrane
      @SteamCrane 4 роки тому +2

      @@sixstringedthing F111's was the first thing that came to mind!

  • @whtfsh765
    @whtfsh765 3 роки тому +8

    I was the first officer on a 777-200 from Tokyo to Houston in October of 2004. We had to shut down the #2 engine due to severe oil loss and high oil temp. I was the pilot flying on that leg. We had 3 pilots, so one of us was making sure our fuel balance remained within limits. We had about 30 minutes to our alternate in Cold Bay, Alaska, so we decided to dump fuel down to max landing weight on the way there. Drift down to FL230, and deviation off the oceanic track was the first priority after shutting down the engine. We used the autopilot down to about 200 feet, at which time I elected to manually land the aircraft. Flaps 20 Ref speed was about 155 kts, which looks very fast from the cockpit, especially at night. The runway was 10000 ft. in length so there was no problem getting the aircraft stopped. On landing we immediately quadrupled the population of Cold Bay.

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 3 роки тому

      I can see that from google earth! nobody there!

  • @gateway8833
    @gateway8833 4 роки тому

    I’m a retired Crash Fire Rescue Officer, I really like your method of explanations, you know what your talking about. I think I’ll subscribe to your channel.

  • @Mike44460
    @Mike44460 4 роки тому +85

    Ever wonder why we never see Juan on a newscast? It is because his explanation would so overwhelm the talking heads they would surely be at a loss for words, finally. As I have requested before, Juan I want to go flying with you. Excellent!

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool 4 роки тому +3

      Also because he would be fired faster than you can say fasten your seat belts.

    • @Sarconthewolf
      @Sarconthewolf 4 роки тому +11

      Well also, the news media would want to sensationalize it to get views. They don't want info, they want panic.

    • @quantumac
      @quantumac 4 роки тому +8

      The mainstream media would also probably limit Juan (or any expert) to a couple of minutes at most. That's not enough time for those of us who have questions the news anchors aren't "clued in" enough to ask.

    • @donnafromnyc
      @donnafromnyc 4 роки тому +3

      John Nance was always the go to guy (ex Braniff, USAFR) but now less frequently. He is up there in age and has made healthcare and fiction writing his wheelhouse. You really need retired pilots to do this commentary as free of corporate restraints.

    • @lizj5740
      @lizj5740 4 роки тому +4

      You can see Juan on a newscast about the PIA #8303 crash: ua-cam.com/video/3zo7TnxiPW0/v-deo.html.

  • @FrostySumo
    @FrostySumo 4 роки тому +235

    "White fart in the wind" is one of the reasons this channel is awesome

    • @kennypool
      @kennypool 4 роки тому +6

      I always eat a can of beans the day before i watch.

    • @tonyt73
      @tonyt73 4 роки тому +3

      Absolutely! 🤣

    • @johnemerson1363
      @johnemerson1363 4 роки тому

      I had to think for a second what he meant. Yes, awesome.

    • @88SC
      @88SC 4 роки тому

      Sung to the tune of “Silver Wings”.

    • @chuckduzzie8529
      @chuckduzzie8529 4 роки тому

      Caught that too..... 🧐

  • @simonchaddock4274
    @simonchaddock4274 4 роки тому +88

    "The First Officer usually can land better anyway." Spoken like a true First Officer!
    Juan. As usual a very informative summary of what actually failed, the sequence of the destruction and the consequences for the plane, crew & passengers.
    I think you neatly identified a weak point in the engine certification process for fan blade failure. The damage caused if the blade leaves the disk going forward and the effect on the fire suppression system if the aerodynamic cowling is lost. Brilliant.

    • @aaronbugaiski2487
      @aaronbugaiski2487 4 роки тому +4

      He is absolutely correct on the test stand runs they do to certify engines. I build the C ducts and inlets for ground testing and they are built like tanks compared to the actual cowlings used on aircraft. Ground test units can easily contain an event like that.

    • @v1rotait23
      @v1rotait23 4 роки тому +2

      @Rich Wightman, that made me laugh. Very funny.

    • @markevans2294
      @markevans2294 4 роки тому +1

      @@aaronbugaiski2487 It's also unclear if the test stand supports the engine in the same way (and angle) which would apply when it's on the wing of an aircraft. Certainly, videos of tests don't appear to show anything like the level of vibration apparent from passenger videos of damaged windmilling engines.

  • @AgentJayZ
    @AgentJayZ 4 роки тому +358

    Looking out and seeing that burning engine would really scare me. The things I learn about airliner design and airline safety procedures from watching your videos makes me feel safer.
    Excellent work as always.

    • @lizj5740
      @lizj5740 4 роки тому +17

      I liked your video on this topic, AgentJayZ.

    • @jcak552
      @jcak552 4 роки тому +8

      Great video AgentZ Thanks...

    • @iammacnathan
      @iammacnathan 4 роки тому +14

      After watching Juan, I jump over to AgentJayZ as he's a jet engine mechanic with decades of experience. Nice hear another factual input on the engine failure scenario. Great video AgentJayz!

    • @persistentwind
      @persistentwind 4 роки тому +2

      Hey J, does it still count as a contained failure when the main fan blade decides to depart through the front of the engine? in terms of containment I just dont know how to call that one, on one hand the system for the engine performed as expected, on the other hand a fan blade that could potentially end up going through the fuselage doesnt seem much better!?!

    • @carnie2_917
      @carnie2_917 4 роки тому

      A burning engine is good, you should start worrying when the engine has a flameout.

  • @TheKaino10
    @TheKaino10 4 роки тому +1

    I could listen to this guy all day and night amazing 👍👍 very very knowledgeable.

  • @tedp7228
    @tedp7228 4 роки тому +15

    An intelligent person can explain complex topics to laymen. Thanks again! Also, your complements to the United crew did not go unnoticed. You're a true professional Juan.

  • @artiem5262
    @artiem5262 4 роки тому +6

    Listen to the person who flies one! Thank you for information and analysis without the drama, and the willingness to say "we don't know."

  • @MrSnout5
    @MrSnout5 4 роки тому +159

    Whenever there is an issue with an aircraft, wherever it is in the world, my first choice for information is from the Blancolirio channel. I know that I am going to get first class accurate information, way better than almost any other media outlet. No agenda other than the truth, no embellishments, wild theories, inaccuracies or suppositions from Juan!

    • @guidospaini7339
      @guidospaini7339 4 роки тому +3

      You said my very same words.
      That's how it is.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 4 роки тому +3

      same here, i skip the official news.. and check this channel

    • @FlukeCypriot
      @FlukeCypriot 4 роки тому

      Very true.

    • @susanlong8978
      @susanlong8978 4 роки тому +2

      Wish our government was like this..THIS US HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE! AMERICA THE WAY IT USED TO BE.!!🇺🇸

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 4 роки тому +1

      @@susanlong8978 most people have the attantion span of a gnat. If you would get this level detail in the news, most people would switch to something more dumbed down. The problem is that people are too lazy, they forgot how nice it can be to learn.

  • @joemehere1151
    @joemehere1151 4 роки тому +29

    I would fly with you any day Juan! Nice, instructive, competent and intelligent updates! Thank you. UA-cam, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, STOP DEMONETIZING THIS CHANNEL!

  • @i-love-space390
    @i-love-space390 4 роки тому +1

    You are excellent at explaining the subtleties of flying airliners. Here you did a great job outling all the planning and thought that goes into preparing for emergencies. I hope every airline Captain is as knowledgable and thoughtful as you.

  • @greggb3079
    @greggb3079 4 роки тому +9

    Ahh ha, note to self... "do not dump fuel with an engine on fire"... words to live by.
    As usual Mr. Browne, excellent reporting.
    Thank you sir.

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 4 роки тому +8

    thanks once a gain Juan, for answering questions I did not know to ask, again. I don't fly, I walk, but I love to have my curiosity lit up, and you never let me down.

  • @markmatthews8429
    @markmatthews8429 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you for keeping us up to date, its great to get a proper analysis of these incidents. Have a good flight over here to London, stay safe.

  • @edsarkisian4434
    @edsarkisian4434 4 роки тому

    Excellent! Technical and precise.
    Thank you.
    EA Sarkisian
    Retired- UAL Captain

  • @brianrjclarke
    @brianrjclarke 4 роки тому

    Juan gives a perfect explanation to the whole thing. Never left wondering what he meant by saying something. Would feel very comfortable with him at the controls. Well done Sir.

  • @thomaswhite935
    @thomaswhite935 4 роки тому +43

    I love the comment earlier... "We have an un-contained media event!" What a roller coaster ride. Thanks for keeping your feet in reality Juan.

  • @Airplane_Willy
    @Airplane_Willy 4 роки тому +20

    I absolutely love how you give a second view of the cameras on the MFD after explaining where they are and what you can see. Dude, you're killing it with your latest videos.

  • @utube321piotr
    @utube321piotr 4 роки тому +23

    This incident is going to be significant in terms of engineering safety of jet propulsion and management. Great job Juan.

  • @mikemartin7603
    @mikemartin7603 4 роки тому

    Just found this channel, Man alive what a teacher you would have been, just spot on analysis, explanation and illustration, without talking down to non pilots, respect sir, clear skies and happy landings from a cloudy England, where i believe you are at the moment, stay safe and well and keep it up, good stuff

  • @iammacnathan
    @iammacnathan 4 роки тому +12

    After watching Juan, I jump over to AgentJayZ as he's a jet engine mechanic with decades of experience. Nice hear another factual input on the engine failure scenario. Great video AgentJayz!

  • @gwiyomikim5988
    @gwiyomikim5988 4 роки тому +17

    19:32 The smile of a man going to work when he truly loves his job!. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @davewitter6565
    @davewitter6565 4 роки тому +4

    Juan you make good points. All the retired pilots love your channel and the straight forward honest explanations. Well done..

  • @elosogonzalez8739
    @elosogonzalez8739 4 роки тому +8

    The crew did an outstanding job! As usual, so did you Juan! Great information. Your expertise in the aircraft certainly makes it easier for the rest of us to understand. Thank you!

  • @earlystrings1
    @earlystrings1 4 роки тому

    Re overweight landing, I didn’t check the density altitude at Denver on that day, but every Denver landing is hot. In any case the pilot flying brought the plane down smooth as butter. As always, a wonderful report.

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 4 роки тому +9

    I really like the design and contingency planning to allow the plane to continue under one engine. Very thorough update, thank you.

  • @df446
    @df446 4 роки тому +29

    My wife bristled when you mentioned a "panicked" FA. "WE have the authority to commence evac if we think it's required." "Yes dear, that's not what he meant."

    • @natural-born_pilot
      @natural-born_pilot 4 роки тому +2

      Chill hun your still in charge of the passenger section lol.

    • @ernestgalvan9037
      @ernestgalvan9037 4 роки тому +2

      Captain still has ultimate authority.

  • @rickcline2762
    @rickcline2762 4 роки тому +11

    Another great report Juan. Your insights and explanations are the stuff of a true professional. Even though I am a retired corporate pilot with 50 years experience, I still learn something from most of your videos.

  • @sanantoniotonight5569
    @sanantoniotonight5569 4 роки тому +13

    Absolute best channel, from an old AF guy still in San Antonio, well done sir!

  • @CraigArndt
    @CraigArndt 4 роки тому

    Juan, you have it down. Great thorough explanation without any ridiculous hype.

  • @rhodium69
    @rhodium69 4 роки тому

    When you want all the facts and science behind the scenes you let Juan do just that . Truly an experienced pilot who gives honest facts and no hype, thank you Juan.

  • @tomshelton435
    @tomshelton435 4 роки тому +23

    Love this man. He is so factual and unruffled.
    “while fart in the wind” will be used about our household for days

    • @Romans--bo7br
      @Romans--bo7br 4 роки тому

      Tom Shelton.... it's "WHITE - fart in a windstorm" (meaning - Insignificant)..... Not "while - fart in a windstorm".

  • @josepheller8395
    @josepheller8395 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you Juan for making it easy for non pilots to understand what happens in these situations.

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- 4 роки тому +17

    Absolutely superb quality content much appreciated 👍

  • @explorer8888
    @explorer8888 4 роки тому

    As always, great analysis. I bet you a hamburger and a beer that the pilot is an ex-USAF pilot or ex-military. He did an excellent job managing the emergency.

  • @WaltzTangoFoxtrot1
    @WaltzTangoFoxtrot1 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, Juan. You are my Go-To in instances like these. I'm grateful for your knowledge and your ability to give the straight scoop! Thankfully no injuries!

  • @2345allthebest
    @2345allthebest 4 роки тому +29

    He makes how it all came apart SO UNDERSTANDABLE ... much appreciated

  • @scootracer
    @scootracer 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the brilliant update peppered with some great humour, glad we can all laugh and smile about the good outcome.

  • @kkelley85
    @kkelley85 4 роки тому +8

    Fire suppression only works with the cowlings closed. When doing maintenance runs with cowling open you are required to have external fire fighting sources.

  • @roeydaz
    @roeydaz 4 роки тому

    Interesting points for aviation enthusiasts regarding the handling of an inflight emergency. Thanks for your videos. Love them.

  • @swongilford
    @swongilford 4 роки тому

    The severe vibration following the blade failure could have also ripped the engine off its mounting causing damage to the wing and potentislly crashing the plane. This was definitely a close shave near miss. Glad everyone survived. Good piloting and ATC actions allowing the plane to get back on the ground.
    Thank JB for the clear explanation.

  • @daniellopez1506
    @daniellopez1506 4 роки тому +9

    The moment an aviation incident occurs, especially on the 777, I wonder what Juan thinks. Always the best Sir.

  • @brianlopez8855
    @brianlopez8855 4 роки тому +5

    After your health scare and then the Covid Lockdown I am so glad to see you back in the air again Juan. Great Channel.

  • @highbypass
    @highbypass 4 роки тому +8

    GE90 driver myself, they make great blades! Fan blade separations don't usually result in engine fires. I'm guessing the smaller broken blade or parts of it were ingested through the compression stages causing oil to leak. It will be interesting to read the full engineering report when published. We had a case on take-off whereby a blade separated and flew forwards and out of the intake, bounced off the runway moving sideways and then embedded itself in the other engines nacelle. Take-off was rejected. Fan blade separations on test rigs don't replicate real world results!

    • @highpointsights
      @highpointsights 3 роки тому

      Has the engineering report been published. I'm a bit behind the curve on this one?!

    • @highpointsights
      @highpointsights 3 роки тому

      Are the Pratt and Whitney engines made with composite matrix material as I believe the G90 motors are?

  • @Rasscasse
    @Rasscasse 4 роки тому

    So good to get first-class information from an expert who can walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
    I always leave this channel wiser than when I arrived.
    This is a good thing.

  • @DesiroDriver
    @DesiroDriver 4 роки тому

    Hey perhaps I saw you fly over my town into LHR! I live right under the BEDEK 1H RNAV arrival by EGLF and I’m always checking the sky’s above me. Small world!

  • @robjohnson5872
    @robjohnson5872 4 роки тому +9

    Great as usual Juan. Great detail on the 777's ability to assist a hurting aircraft - we all feel better after that.

  • @7heRedBaron
    @7heRedBaron 4 роки тому +49

    “and I’ve done this before.” Sums up everything about this channel.

  • @BSsss603
    @BSsss603 4 роки тому +7

    Everything said and explained, nothing left out and everything is right on. A true professional!! Have a safe trip to LHR!

  • @MiscRocketVideos
    @MiscRocketVideos 4 роки тому

    I think from previous videos you are a 777 pilot and the with expertise you describe the events and reactions on this plane, I believe I'm correct.
    In some other videos about other types, you sometimes say 'I think, but other pilots correct me' or similar, but in this video I heard direct knowledge with conviction that you know what the next step in the process is.
    Thank you, Juan, for such an excellent explanation and I would love to be a passenger on any type you fly!

  • @davidimhoff2118
    @davidimhoff2118 4 роки тому

    Just a remarkable thing and nobody hurt. I've seen the debris pics and the video from the passengers while it was flying. Just amazing. I am not in the airline industry but I have learned a lot from watching your channel and others. So thank you

  • @joaquinbrunohuetecuevas4
    @joaquinbrunohuetecuevas4 4 роки тому +12

    Gracias Juan, thanks so much for giving so much

  • @calpilot7
    @calpilot7 4 роки тому +37

    Kudos to the United crew. Superior airmanship skills. Nicely done United.

  • @williamwinsor7376
    @williamwinsor7376 4 роки тому +9

    I just turn off the news on a subject when they start rehashing it’s better to wait a little bit and look for better sources. They only think about what’s good for their popularity and beating others. To rail about them is like railing about the rain while it drips down their face. This channel is the best I think.

  • @billbraun6846
    @billbraun6846 4 роки тому

    I really love hearing you call into "The Tom Sullivan Show". Brings back memory's of another airline pilot who used to call in back in the 1990's. His name was Jack Birch, a B707 B747 pilot for Pan Am and United. He was a good friend of my dad. Jack loved flying so much that when he got too old to pilot 747's he became a flight engineer. He died of a heart attack in the cockpit of a B747 flying out of Tokyo. You would have loved talking to and flying with Jack.

  • @kevinmadore1794
    @kevinmadore1794 4 роки тому

    What about an ETOPS situation in which the failed engine also results in fuselage damage and a depressurization? Now, you're flying at 10,000 ft. half the distance to Hawaii as a single-engine B777. The Southwest 737 incident showed how easily that situation could develop. Add to that an out-of-balance engine and maybe a little fire to go with it. Yikes!
    Juan, this channel is awesome! Thanks for the frequent updates!

  • @trryhin
    @trryhin 4 роки тому +241

    As a 30 year A&P I can tell you an engine fire extinguishing system is useless without the cowling, and would just be a "white fart in the wind".

    • @hyime69
      @hyime69 4 роки тому +12

      Hi Terry British Engineer here Interesting that the Reverser C Duct was not in place, I would expect the fan cowl to go but the C Duct is a Heavy bit of hardware I also agree the pulling of the Fire Handles cut the fuel off and the Fire extinguisher only made white smoke in the early video I saw I would assume it was the second attempt as per the Crews Emergency SOP's/ FRC as they still had a fire warning that I saw being discharged

    • @Big.Ron1
      @Big.Ron1 4 роки тому +2

      Yep. That is about the size of it.

    • @mikedenning9261
      @mikedenning9261 4 роки тому +8

      I would assume the fire detection loop is part of the cowling and would have departed the airplane with the cowling. I don't think that the none flying pilot would jump up, run back and check on what parts were gone. Running the engine fire checklist is the best way to handle the "Engine Fire" indication. The pieces parts of the fire detection system would not be covered by the media unless someone who was a true expert was reporting on this.

    • @warmfreeze
      @warmfreeze 4 роки тому +5

      they likely pulled the fuel cut off and what you see burning is most of the accessory unit..

    • @hyime69
      @hyime69 4 роки тому +4

      @@mikedenning9261 Yes I would also think the ICAS would show a FIRE WARN Message because the wire has gone Plus also the R/H Pilot can Look rear from his seat if not then Crew would call it in from the Cabin.

  • @GlennChambers
    @GlennChambers 4 роки тому +230

    NTSB, you can go home already, Juan has solved the case.

    • @icare7151
      @icare7151 4 роки тому +11

      My recommendations to FAA
      1)Jet engine cowlings need to be redesigned with multi fiber honeycomb 3D braided carbon fiber, aramid fibers such as Kevlar and with heat & fire resistance fiber such as Nomex.
      I have used these fibers for decades engineering such multi-fiber designs. Lightweight, ultra high tensile strength, heat and fire resistance are key to this design application.
      2)Redesigning engine nose cones and cowling intakes for anti-fan blade deflection ejection which should have been mandated decades ago.
      3)A fail safe self balancing shaft or variable pitch blades to lesson the damaging harmonic and in-harmonic vibrations after a blade off events which should also have been mandated years ago but may be cost, weight and engineering prohibitive.
      Cheers,
      Kent

    • @williamharn9048
      @williamharn9048 4 роки тому +1

      They never even showed up!

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 4 роки тому +3

      @@icare7151 In your 3) the added complexity would almost certainly increase the number of engine loss events.

    • @icare7151
      @icare7151 4 роки тому

      @@Miata822 Definitely don’t want to make an engine higher risk of failure in an attempt to increase fail safe margins. Doing so would be counterintuitive.

    • @billcallahan9303
      @billcallahan9303 4 роки тому +1

      @@icare7151 I care. I liked your No. 2. The person who took that in-flight photo probably will never know how lucky they were not to be split in two...or the people in front or back of them. Good ideas you have!

  • @jas0609
    @jas0609 4 роки тому +4

    “I gotta go to work right now. I am going to London.” Nice! ...Thanks for the update Juan! Safe travels! 👍

  • @ralphbernard3908
    @ralphbernard3908 4 роки тому +1

    I have been an aircraft mechanic for 7 years, and an aircraft inspector for 27+ years on large commercial aircraft. Thank you for a very professional and common sense based report. I will be very interested in the NTSB final report. We are always learning in the aviation industry. Fortunately there was no loss of life in this case. The adjustments that will be made as a result of what we learn will make flying safer.

  • @natural-born_pilot
    @natural-born_pilot 4 роки тому +1

    Great video and for me very informative that’s why in these cases when the dung hits the fan I only take your review. As a retired USAF vet who began crewing 1&2 eng fighter aircraft and later as a GIB with hundreds of hours hands on stick time I never have a problem understanding anything you explain. With that I love your in-depth explanations on important matters and appreciate it considering the wide range of knowledge of aircraft and flying your viewers may have. I’m always bothered after watching inaccurate reviews or worse all the erroneous bs all the armchair responses make afterwards allowing others to leave with.
    Since retirement I’m not nearly as knowledgeable on the latest tech advances and find it so interesting learning them from the clear explanations you provide in your videos. Always enjoy learning from you Juan and especially in this review with your explanation plus photos of the rear mounted cameras looking forward to aid in safe taxi clearance and the rear half of the power plants. Thanks a bunch and hope you have a nice flight to London, take care.

  • @mojo7618
    @mojo7618 4 роки тому +13

    I really appreciate your videos, thank you a lot.

  • @wyomingadventures
    @wyomingadventures 4 роки тому +3

    When I hear all the information about how aircraft works it's just amazing technology and engineering! Juan's channel is the best aviation channel on UA-cam. Thank you Juan for explaining in a way we all can understand how it works!

  • @Captain_bernoulli
    @Captain_bernoulli 4 роки тому +191

    Juan Blancolirio is the best.

    • @spicemasterii6775
      @spicemasterii6775 4 роки тому +16

      There's no Juan like Juan.

    • @geofiggy
      @geofiggy 4 роки тому +4

      To bad I can't give him 2 thumbs up. Except here 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @ml9849
      @ml9849 4 роки тому +4

      @@spicemasterii6775 Only Juan.

    • @christainmarks106
      @christainmarks106 4 роки тому +3

      Thanks to the UA-cam algorithm gods...
      I stumbled on to one of his videos years ago when he was discussing the 737 max disasters... I was hooked instantly and now I’m a fan for life. Juan is the MAN

    • @glasser2819
      @glasser2819 4 роки тому +2

      glad to hear Cap. Juan is back in the saddle
      👍

  • @kimosill413
    @kimosill413 4 роки тому

    Mahalo for the answer to the question about what would have happened if this occurred half way across the Pacific. It provides me some comfort that it is still designed to make it that far on a single engine....like you said though, who knows what that vibration would do.

  • @davemcdonald9098
    @davemcdonald9098 4 роки тому +1

    Great job explaining this subject of failure, and the training of the crew. Also very good lessons on the 777s capabilities i.e. fuel dumping, emergency landings, and flight statistics. Engine fan failure also explained very well.

  • @mattgoldberg8578
    @mattgoldberg8578 4 роки тому +70

    Who are the 17 people who disliked this video? What's NOT to like? This was awesome...I'm sure my fellow AvGeeks will agree.

    • @steveholton4130
      @steveholton4130 4 роки тому +7

      Media Execs

    • @04u2cY
      @04u2cY 4 роки тому +2

      @@steveholton4130 come on you took the words right out of my mouth lol.

    • @VMCAviationVideos
      @VMCAviationVideos 4 роки тому

      It wasn't me 😳

    • @philnelson7791
      @philnelson7791 4 роки тому +4

      17 Captains... Lol

    • @motor2of7
      @motor2of7 4 роки тому +2

      People who don’t like facts and prefer the media narrative

  • @brown-eyedman4040
    @brown-eyedman4040 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for these insights. And hats off to this crew. They calmy did what they were trained to do.

  • @user6008
    @user6008 4 роки тому +7

    From someone who knows nothing concerning aviation, that is one extremely well built engine. To lose a fan blade, stay mostly intact while not exploding or blowing up is a safety measure in itself.

    • @grantjohnston5817
      @grantjohnston5817 4 роки тому +1

      If it was a well built engine it would not have failed!

    • @ronmaxim8009
      @ronmaxim8009 4 роки тому +1

      @@grantjohnston5817 More people have died sniffing paint thinner in the last week than have died in 777's powered by PW during its entire 26 year service life....

    • @rayclark474
      @rayclark474 4 роки тому

      @@grantjohnston5817 failures happen, the fact that the engine did not disintegrate when this blade failed means that this WAS an extremely well built and designed engine. The fact that the failure was contained and no internal engine parts other than the failed blade left the airframe indicates amazing engineering.

  • @gracelandone
    @gracelandone 4 роки тому

    White fart in the wind? Excellent. Your excitement is palpable describing this incident. Knowing the engineering built into the craft and the training built into the crew, it is apparent you have the confidence that we, as passengers, are desperate to understand when it is clear to us that things are not going as planned. Thanks for the great explanation of what probably occurred in this incident.

  • @rvingwithfreedombaron9887
    @rvingwithfreedombaron9887 4 роки тому

    Hello Blancolirio. First, congratulations... great videos with always good information. I just wanted to mention that the Boeing Fire Eng L,R checklist does not state not to dump fuel in the event of a fire. I believe that must be in an Operator specific QRH. (As always, prudent pilot judgment is required 🙃)👍
    The -200 Series are not equipped with the exterior camera system..... only the -300s.

  • @JohnWLewis
    @JohnWLewis 4 роки тому +67

    8:52 Juan’s vernacular takes the cake: “Were you just creating a white fart in a wind?” !🤣!🤣

    • @darkcoeficient
      @darkcoeficient 4 роки тому +1

      Had to do a double take!

    • @tomdavis282
      @tomdavis282 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I was in trouble there for a second trying to eat lunch and laugh at the same time! 😂

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 4 роки тому +1

      Anyone else get the feeling that the Juan was channeling Hank Hill in the first few words of the vid? :+)

    • @molotov9502
      @molotov9502 4 роки тому

      More like a "wet fart in the wind"

    • @turbofanlover
      @turbofanlover 4 роки тому

      Gotta love him. :)

  • @timothycook2917
    @timothycook2917 4 роки тому +72

    It was really starting to annoy me when media reports were saying stuff like "the plane was able to land with most of it's engine missing."

    • @andy-ally
      @andy-ally 4 роки тому +14

      Yeah, here in Lithuania news channels literally translated "lost an engine" as a physical detachment...

    • @Graphene_314
      @Graphene_314 4 роки тому +26

      Media constantly talks out of its ass.

    • @gregknipe8772
      @gregknipe8772 4 роки тому +11

      ignorance prevails until one is educated. don't blame the media, (Juan is the media too, friend) blame ignorance and lack of curiosity. these two states of mind are very prevalent in our country, related to many many subjects. turn off your TV, you have no complaints.

    • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
      @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 4 роки тому +3

      @@gregknipe8772 Well said, Greg! To add my two American rupees 😆, general (i.e. non-specialized) news outlets have a lot of subjects to cover, and limited resources that need to be allocated to each, and they have to prioritize based on what their audiences want (“if it bleeds, it leads”). This isn’t to excuse bad reporting, but I have some sympathy for the competing forces that news directors and editors have to deal with. That said, I think we’re all grateful for subject matter experts like Juan who are willing to share their knowledge with us!

    • @COIcultist
      @COIcultist 4 роки тому +4

      @@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar No I think the quality of analysis has disappeared if it was ever there. If you have ever seen the news cover a subject you know well they invariably get at least one part of the story wrong.
      The i's were dotted and the t's crossed by Juan himself when he covered the Toddbrook Reservoir spillway problem. UK media had reported on it for days but had carried out no analysis to find what the problem was.

  • @PendeltonWhiskey
    @PendeltonWhiskey 4 роки тому +17

    I want to thank the Pilots and the the crew for getting this plane back on the ground safely. Thank you and congratulations

  • @wyldbill100
    @wyldbill100 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for your thoughtful and highly detailed synopsis for all the rest of us. I thoroughly enjoy each of your videos on "aircraft". I was a jet mech./ inspector during my time in the US Navy and saw a lot of "interesting" things. You're talking my lingo!

  • @petecollins4925
    @petecollins4925 4 роки тому

    Good explanation of ETOPS, thanks Juan, I like learning new stuff. Welcome to a much warmer London than it was a couple of weeks back, positively tropical now by comparison!

  • @Magnetic_Spaceman
    @Magnetic_Spaceman 4 роки тому +12

    Agent JayZ nailed it when he said, "looks like a blade, maybe a blade and a half."

  • @sylvesterstewart868
    @sylvesterstewart868 4 роки тому +81

    In less than 20 minutes he did what the"media" can't do in days.

    • @EFCasual
      @EFCasual 4 роки тому

      Does that make him the Nietzsche of aviation journalists?

    • @stephendixon4619
      @stephendixon4619 4 роки тому +1

      And what the NTSB will take 2 years to find out.

    • @petercrisp2573
      @petercrisp2573 4 роки тому

      Yes, he actually did what the media cannot ever actually achieve. Juan’s explanations are always spot on.

    • @jb894
      @jb894 4 роки тому

      That's because they are fake.

    • @rlyle5804
      @rlyle5804 4 роки тому

      @@EFCasual Juan appears sane.

  • @cardbored_
    @cardbored_ 4 роки тому +82

    “Were you just creating a white fart in the wind” 😂😂
    Guys, we come here for the science. We stay for the laughs.

    • @DavidTrejo
      @DavidTrejo 4 роки тому +1

      @Peter Mortensen ❤

  • @alanmcnamara9155
    @alanmcnamara9155 4 роки тому +1

    In the 1970s I worked in engine inspection on the P & W JT9D (747) for South African Airways and we had to do crack detection tests on the (solid) fan blades. We specifically checked in the root of the blade as that was were they were subject to great stress. If I was doing that job at United now I would probably be crapping myself.

  • @medic1120
    @medic1120 4 роки тому +1

    Juan, been watching this channel for a year now, you are so good at explaining what you pilots “handle” issues. As a private pilot it’s great to hear how the big guys do it. Keep it up!!

  • @duanequam7709
    @duanequam7709 4 роки тому +11

    It just makes me wonder why anyone would listen to the lame stream media when the logical answer is explained in a manner just about anyone can understand.
    Great to listen to the voice of reason. Thanks Juan

  • @petemitchel7256
    @petemitchel7256 4 роки тому +13

    Thank you Juan, a National Resource.

    • @ramosel
      @ramosel 4 роки тому

      As a not so nearby neighbor (about 10 miles as the crow flies) Juan started this reporting with the Oroville Dam problems.... an arena is which he had NO expertise. He still did a better job than any of the local or national news.

    • @guidospaini7339
      @guidospaini7339 4 роки тому

      I concour!

  • @daviddmoore1
    @daviddmoore1 4 роки тому +26

    Captain: "This is what we trained for people". Good job to them!

  • @221340
    @221340 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Juan. You continue to amaze me with the depth of your knowledge of subsystems and their interaction with major malfunctions of other systems. Your analysis of this event was spot on.

  • @flyingark173
    @flyingark173 4 роки тому

    Very glad to have you as a reliable resource for information such as this! Heard the news today say that the "fan blade ripped through the engine casing" and with your help I knew the difference between the engine casing and the cowling....big distinction. Thanks for giving us the "real news".

  • @turbofanlover
    @turbofanlover 4 роки тому +4

    Superb stuff, Juan...absolutely superb. So awesome to get this info right from the horse's mouth, so to speak. :)

    • @arthenry498
      @arthenry498 4 роки тому +3

      That's right. Normally, our news comes from the OTHER end of the horse!! And it is worth even less than the normal discharge from that end of the horse. My apologies to all horses..

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 4 роки тому

      ​@@arthenry498 😂🤣😂WELL said!!

  • @eugenemoor1570
    @eugenemoor1570 4 роки тому +5

    Great brief, nice to have info from a expert vice the glory reporter.

  • @carterrk
    @carterrk 4 роки тому +6

    777 still one of the safest aircraft ever built. Always a great flight.

  • @stubblejumper9807
    @stubblejumper9807 4 роки тому

    Very well done Juan very well explained and a lot questions that people think of answered. Been subscribed to your channel for a year and half. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @librepenseursaintongheais7216
    @librepenseursaintongheais7216 4 роки тому

    Sir You are so impressive and so incredibly clear. Thank you. I am not a pilot only a passionate for aviation having travel thousand flights for work. I love your channel.