Prius Prime First Real World MPG & Efficiency Test
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- I took the 2023 Toyota Prius Prime on a road trip and also drove it around the city on electricity alone. In Toyota speak, Prime means plug-in hybrid. The range on battery power alone in the XSE trim is up to 39 miles. Let's find out if that's true.
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Toyota finance wants 9.5% to finance with excellent credit Lmao. They must be dreaming.
YIKES
It varies widely. I've been offered anywhere from 0 to 15000 dollar markups. Absolutely insane.
Thats everywhere right now unfortunately
They must be out of their got damn minds.
Pay in cash, why do want to finance?
Thank you for the real world economy numbers. Glad you drove the car naturally instead of trying to max efficiency. I consider what you achieved to be extremely good.
I think they are quite good too. I'm a performance car guy and I'm going to drive accordingly.
For MPG, I think I would want the base model with the 17" wheels. Makes a difference.
And 17" are easier and cheaper to shod with rubber
The fatter the tire, the more wind and rolling resistance it has. It does make a difference. Look underneath they cover as much as they can with flat panels to cut down air turbulence.
Naaaa give me the beefy 19” inchers
It seems like a really good car... Plus it isn't ugly now... This will sell like crazy.
They plan on selling about 15k of these in for MY 2023-2024.
@@revmatchtv The Prius in general though is gonna be nutty popular.
@@802Garage Toyota plans to sell 36k Priuses in 2023. I wonder if they can keep up with demand. I've only seen a couple on the road.
@@revmatchtv is that globally or only in the US? I hope that dealers won't be selling them above MSRP
@@Yoav76 US numbers
Loved watching this test and glad we got a chance to talk about our experiences with it. Figuring out when to use the EV mode versus the hybrid mode. Kind of became a game. It’s nice being able to cruise around in pure electric mode so much of the time without ever having to worry about being tied to a charging network. Such a good car, hope dealer markups go away.
Thanks for sharing your insights!
Great review! Thanks for covering some of the special features and also for the overall cost breakdown. I've got one on order with expected delivery late June to mid-July.
Really enjoyed your video. Packed with such helpful info. Thanks!
Best/ honest review I’ve seen thank you!!
Awesome review man. Keep it up. Subscribed.
Really high quality capable review. Thanks!
This is a very detail mpg test for a phev.. Good job 👍👍
In Canada you get $5000 green rebate that makes Prime a no brainer over pure hybrid version
Love the Prius coverage! See you soon I'm sure😅
Thanks Kirk! No doubt I’ll see you soon 🤣
Great review. I used to live in California; Los Angeles, Oxnard, and San Diego, so it was interesting to see you driving through SB and L.A., especially when you drove by the Galleria.
Converting to cents per mile vs mpg would give the reader a better way to gauge savings. For example 50 mpg at $5 a gallon is 10 cents a mile. Most home solar installations in the west where it is sunny average 6 cents per kwhr fully amortized over the minimum life span of 25 years. Most cars on electric power average 3 miles per kwhr. That means when charging at home during the day on solar, the cost per mile is only 6 divided by 3 or 2 cents per mile. People who have solar, charge their electric vehicles during the day and have 300 to 350 miles range and never use a public charging station except for long trips will enjoy these savings while never using a drop of gas or getting their electric power from a fossil fueled plant. That is the beauty of going electric. However the cost of the solar after taxes will run about $13k for a 17 panel system, and the cost of an EV $45k to $80k. Driving an EV at 2 cents per mile vs a hybrid at 10 cents per mile, savings would be $8k over 100,000 miles. Driving a gas guzzler giant SUV at 15 mpg at $5 gas would be 33 cents per mile. Scary isn't it.
Stealerships are treating this car like a Ferrari! No test drives and they want mid 40s for the xse trim. INSANE
i see many EV fans blast Toyota for not going gaga for BEVs but i respect Toyota for being the one of the few matured, pragmatic and courageous automakers that understand the market and people! In fact i hope to see larger Toyota vehicles like the Hiace and Coaster for example going hybrid and get excellent MPG haha
Personally I think BEVs can be a great choice for a city vehicle, however, the charging infrastructure in North America is pretty much a disaster right now which makes them not a great choice for road trips.
Wait until the Robber barons get ahold of most of the electric infrastructure and monopolize the electric grids so they can jack up the per kWh rates and then electric will no longer be cheaper than gasoline. If we're lucky it will be on par but I won't put it past these oligarchs to take everyone across the coals once their plans come to fruition
Lovely reaction.
Great review! I want this car :-)
Appreciate it
Dream car. Thanks Ad
I was going to get this car but decided on the Model 3 instead. I felt I was getting better value for my money after rebate.
Great review for an awesome car. 👌
Thank you
Got a 23 XLE AWD, and love it! This car checks all the boxes👍averaging 58 mpg
Dern good!
You already have it? We put our deposit down 3 months ago. Xle awd
@@corey7219 yes…got it on Match 14th in WV.
@@toddbenfield6546 nice and for us we have been waiting since march for the prius xle awd and we are trying to find a good fuel or electric efficient miles and a long lasting car
@@toddbenfield6546 did you put a very early deposit on the Prius? We put ours in on March.
Ah Prius 2023,😍... Enjoy living in my head rent free💞
I personally just got the standard Prius about 3 weeks ago and I will say that fuel economy can be, rather sporadic. The drive back from the deal, mostly highway with some bumper to bumper got 62.3mpg and a drive for my father to an eye injection got 67.9mpg. But I also have drives to work as slow as 39.4mpg. It seems to be all about if the battery was charged up or if it was too cold to run in EV mode.
I will say I leave the car primarily in Eco mode as the last car I owned was a worn out 97 Camry. A car with half the horse power and over twice as long 0-60. Eco mode is still a huge performance bump above that thing.
Worth the money! Prius!! 👍👍👍
Not only is the higher price hard to swallow for the Prime, but the non-plug-in Prius also is more fuel efficient with an EPA rating of 57MPG combined. If you have a medium-short commute that can be completely covered by the Prime's EV range you can make up the difference in just a few years however, so it's worth looking at your situation to determine which one is more appropriate for you.
Gas below $4/gal is typically cheaper for HEV when you include battery lifecycle costs. Good advice.
Check all manufacturers of car models that can be purchased in gas engine only, hybrid or plug in hybrid. Guess which is the cheapest to drive? Almost always it the plain hybrid.
@@horsepowerandtalk1033 My PHEV has a 16 mile battery. I drive 43 miles/day 3-4 days/wk. I rarely charge the battery because it's cheaper to use gasoline and I get about 43mpg.
@@artsmith103 You should charge anyway. The dollars-per-mile performance of a PHEV while in EV mode is MUCH better than even the best hybrid. My advice was about how to consider which vehicle to purchase but now that you have the PHEV, you owe to yourself and future generations to make the very most of the vehicle's capacity to reduce your costs, and to reduce your emissions.
@@leifhietala8074 It's cheaper to run on gasoline. If gasoline gets much more expensive in the future, I'll start using the battery and it will be good it wasn't wasted during cheaper gasoline.
Nice car but once again the dealer markup is the deal-breaker.
No dealer markup at my dealer… Connecticut.
Wow. This Prius actually looks pretty good.
Would be useful to know how using the heat or air-conditioning affects mileage and electrical consumption. Also, one feature lacking on the 2023 Prius Prime is a rear-window windshield wiper. Toyota apparently feels that the rake of the back window would clear off the rear window, but in snow how effective would that be? Also how good is the rear window heating?
When you're in ECO mode it puts the heating/cooling system in a more efficient mode. Personally, I could care less. I want to be comfortable!
Actually, due to the flatness of the rear glass, you need to clean the glass more as opposed to the vertical glass where the rain water would just run off quickly.
What a beautiful motor car ! A winner today , Toyota , 😊 .
With the way the windshield is angled, does it affect visibility that much?
I bought mine from Kenosha Toyota. NO markups. Rates 5.8% for 72 months.
DON'T GIVE UP.
Fantastic
Which toyota prius prime or ?
@@rajendramodusu5980 XLE AWD, non prime.
@@ssakhi10 6% interest
On asset which depreciates value day by day
I d k ur situation this is not investment in this battered economy
@@rajendramodusu5980 what are your options? Current savings accounts are now paying 3-4%, so net 2%. I can live with that.
if I drive the prius prime with battery always flat... using it as a full hybrid and not as a plug in hybrid... how much does it consume?
curiosity because only the plug-in version will arrive in Italy and not the full hybrid version ... thanks
Love that you drove it any other car, hyper milers are just a fraction of real world Prius drivers. I'm personally waiting for something with more power and range. I live in very mountainous area and want extra HP for the crazy elevation in my area. Hoping the GR version checks that box, if not, will wait for the 2025 Prius model.
GR version is just a rumor at the moment.
Beautiful vehicle and Beautiful place
Thanks for noticing the location! When I can, I try to shoot in a beautiful area.
this car is badass
Thank Eric for the real world test, the wife is looking at the Prius Prime as her next car. Having own a 1st Gen FRS your comment on the Prime being faster to 60mph hit me below the belt. Thank you amigo.
I got 46mpg on my 2000 echo manual trans on my last tank. Usually drive 75 80. But kept it under 70 and was at 46.8 but then started zooming.
My Mini Cooper 2007 diesel got 72mpg
That's the relationship between speed and power requirements: to double your speed, power goes up exponentially. That's why a Veyron with 12x your Echo's power can still only go 3x as fast. Slowing down just a bit moves your power requirements into the engine's butter zone where it's producing at its most efficient while still moving you at decent speed.
@@vontrap6942 Not available in the US in 07, so is that imperial gallons? It's more like 50mpg in US gallons.
The design is basically the discontinued chevy volt gen 2. Looks great. The only thing it needs is the availability to fully charge in 2 hours and it would be (chef kiss).
Such a short EV range isn't worth equipping that option plus it's bad for the battery. The market is overnight chargers with typical commutes. Any amount of gasoline is meaningless.
@@normt430 The comment is about fast charging option for a PHEV. Useless waste of money.
@@normt430 There is no EV that can provide that ride quality, range, and low operating cost for less.
@@normt430 I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you own any extent of electrified vehicle?
You were mostly describing a Chevy Volt from 2011. With my Volt I was getting 42 miles of EV range and 42 mpg in range exteded mode (engine running) and lifetime average of 184 mpg when I sold it for my I-Pace. 6-8 mpg improvement with the Prius after 12 years is not much to brag about.
@@normt430 the I-Pace has been a really fantastic car. My wife just got a Mustang Mach-E GT Performance and she loves it. We decided to go full EV and and don't regret it one bit.
10/10 review.
00:30 I liked that one! 🤣🤣
This is why I put a deposit on a 23 or 24 (ETA is over 1 year) and will trade in my 21 Prius Prime.
I thought I recognized that vista point going up to Solvang )
what kind of camera did you have on the hood ?
Lol, 250 Mile is Road Trip to this guy.
Texans: That’s my NORMAL drive in the Great State of Texas.
Does it have power folding mirror
would be nice to put that white foam from trunk out to see what is under .. nobody did that in video yet
I think location has a lot to do with the MPG. My 2021 Corolla hybrid is supposed to average 52 and we average 58.3. been very happy with it and wouldn't mind getting another when it's time. I'd be curious to see what I would get with this Prius
I think the Corolla hybrid looks better than even this newer Prius. Do you have limited cargo room in the trunk as well?
@@4seeableTVprius looks better and more sporty
I've been watching youtube for over a decade and you're one of the best car reviewers i've ever watched. Subbed. Very relatable and not just reading off a stupid sticker window or driving 22mph for ultra max rare efficiency
Appreciate it
Apparently people actually think there is no nuance between "hyper miling" and "driving it like you stole it".
I can get to work and back and do some shopping in 38 electric miles meaning I wouldn't be using gas. in fact, that means under normal circumstances, I'll only be using 1 tank of gas every 6 months (because I read that it forces you to use the gas within 6 months to prevent it from becoming stale). the average round trip commute is 38-41 miles in the US depending on the source. the average distance a year for commuting is about 10K miles. the average overall driving a year is 14k miles. if an entire year's worth of driving is 4000 paid miles versus 14000 paid miles in a regular prius, that's still a good savings even if the car gets 50 mpg. 10k miles / 50 mpg = 200 gallons/year. that's over $800/year you're saving (using $4/gallon of 87; even more savings if the gas is more than $4). but cost isn't the only reason. you can imagine long stretches of time between filling a tank. Rather than visit a station every week, maybe you visit once every 6 months.
Check out and see how long gasoline can go before it turns into varnish in your area. 6 months may be a long time for gas to be sitting
About to trade in my 2017 Prime. It's been a great car.
What zip code are you in? What trim level?
@@artsmith103 Chicago area, Premium trim level.
@@mostmost1 You're 1,200 miles away. I'll have to pass. Good luck.
@@artsmith103 are they hard to find in your area? Many in Indiana think I'm driving a full EV.
@@mostmost1 just lower density so everything is harder to find.
These things are impossible to find. I'm kind of considering buying one as I drive a ton for work. I had a 2021 rav4 xse (so, hybrid) and got 42+ mpg all day every day with no change to my spirited driving. I sold that for a couple different reasons, the biggest being that after 1 year and 13k miles I had the opportunity to sell it for $5k more than I paid for it. I then got a 2023 santa fe. I then got this new job with a lot more traveling, really love the santa fe and most likely not getting rid of it..but 20mpg and a lot of miles I'm putting on it. I'm wanting to get a hybrid for a work vehicle. I was going to get an elantra hybrid, like everything about it except I hit the door latch with my arm every time I get out (I put 1500 miles on one over a 3 day period just to see if it would work for me). I averaged 50mpg in it, again..with no change to my driving style. I put 450 miles on a maverick hybrid and averaged 35mpg which would be enough for me to pick one up, but I can't find any of course - and I'm not paying over msrp for one. So, I'm wanting to try out one of these new prius next.. but, yeah. Where to find one? lol
@ 4:15 I turned the volume up and heard the engine rev but no electric whine that you say. So it leads me to think that whine that some complain about is very low, very distinctive. So to me I doudt that it's a concern.
It's very faint and I don't think my mic picked it up. You might hear it slightly more at part throttle, but if you had the music on you wouldn't hear it. Either way, I think it's cool sounding and not a negative.
That's very quiet! Not sure how people consider that loud. Freeway may be different, so I would like to know that db reading.
I want the new model Prime 2024, but I got stuck w Prime 2017, not powerful like that
I have a 23 Mitsubishi mirage hatchback base.. I get 53 mpg hwy 47 city..it cost $18,500 .. you figure out if the price difference is worth it
The look is really nice. Wish it didnt have the blind spots on the side of the windshield
Someone should do a hyper mile range review
Ontario electricity is 7c *2 delivery and taxes =14c / kWh if charging at night.
4:36 When I said I'd wait for the GR version ppl laughed at my comment. Take that!!
I would like to have one, but here in Southern California, the dealers are in gouging mode. I will not pay the mark up, which goes as high as $4000. Also there seems to be like no availability at this time. There are so few available, I have not seen one in the show room or on the road. So not now Toyota. I can wait another year
can you get this without dealer markup? this good competition to Tesla model 3 but then spending more to the EV just gets rid plenty of maintenance tasks and costs.
My 2013 Prius Plug-in (gen. 3) has been a peach. It’s been to Canada, Colorado and Oregon from the Bay Area. About 1/2 my driving (including those trips(12k of the 55k total miles)) has been on the ~11 mile battery. Only charge on 110v in the garage at home. Watched this to see what I would get by trading up. Not much, it seems - adaptive cruise, whoopee. No sale.
Most economical car is the one you already own
What about the catalytic converter? Will it be easy to steal like previous generations?
The cat is in the normal place. I'd suggest some kind of aftermarket cage if it's a concern. And yes, Toyota is aware of the issue, but they stated that they locked in the design around 2018 before the thefts became rampant.
I have a 2016 prius two and it still averages 64 mpg. I drive it like any other car too. Usually it'll get just over 600 miles on a tank of 85 octane
Never heard of 85 octane, where do you get it?
@@yulog Wyoming and high country Colorado. Should be done away with. They have it in the summer to prevent preignition at high altitudes. Modern cars don't need it.
@@yulog Giving you too much information. Here in Iowa the land of king corn. You have to hunt for pure gasoline. 10% gasohol goes from 87 to 89 octane. E88 is 15% gasohol with 88 octane. E85 has to be used in a flex fuel vehicle and is 85% corn alcohol 100 octane and gets 70% MPG as normal gas. This makes my head hurt.
This is not the real usage. We mostly go 20-30 miles on a weekday, and that can be done purely electric. The car will only go on longer journeys with petrol on weekends.
That’s exactly what i did in the video. I drove 127 miles on electricity alone over 3 separate charges. On the third charge I did the road trip. Maybe I could have spent more time explaining that.
One of the local dealers in southern CA selling price for the base SE is 42k (that’s almost a 10k market adjustment). That’s stupid.
Ontario Canada electricity is about double what he stated when you add in all the different costs items on a bill.
Got it
I own a Honda Clarity... Basically this same car but 4 years older. And its great. In real world use I average 160 mpg. I once went 2 weeks without using any fuel. 199.99 is high as the meter goes. So long as driving in town, its zero gas. Its only when I make a trip to the BIG city for fun or shopping, that I ever use gas. And that's a 90 mile round trip. Strictly on gas, it will do 50 mpg. The self driving features are pretty good. Although the automatic speed control is WAY to sensitive. It slows down WAY behind a car (Even on the closest setting) But as long as drive with that in mind, its not bad.
You didn't! You got zero mpg on electricity.
You are getting about the same mpg I get in my Prius.
How's visibility with those horizontal A pillars?
No issue for me, but I daily a Supra with huge A pillars so I’m used to it. Overall, sight lines are good and there’s a lot of glass. Rear window visibility is not very good though as the opening is small.
Thanks. Between federal and Connecticut incentives, the base Model 3 from Tesla in $34,240. The only major benefit of the Prius that I see is absence of range anxiety.
Interesting. In CA that's $36 for a Model 3, vs $28 for a base Prius.
Would probably save the cash and buy a base Jetta MT. It would take 200k just to break even.
What I wanna see is a 5 hour Amazon Flex block test! Then a nice 300 - 350 mile trip and see if the car can handle a 5 hour flex block 45-48 stops and a trip 300 - 350 miles on 1 full tank of gas!
wow my 2013 volt only gets 45 miles of range and averages about 65 mpg in similar conditions. innovative way to spend an extra $25,000
Is there a cut out where I can put a spare tire in it?
Yes
Oh love the shirt btw didn't have to flex that hard ;)😉
That's one comment for the shirt, one against. I guess that's a zero!
I was expecting more from the Prius, with my 2019 C-HR I make in average 60 MPG
Remember I had a pre-production vehicle and loads of big inclines. I hit the EPA efficiency rating, so take that as you will.
I can see these cars getting a lot of high pressure injector issues unless they are given regular Italian Tune-ups. The direct injectors aren't used except at higher RPMs and Priuses are typically not driven hard for better efficiency. This is not the old 1.8 with port injection only so to ensure good engine health, regularly give the car WOT so the direct injectors can clean themselves of carbon deposits. Just make sure your engine is properly warmed up before doing so. Also be careful on those skinny tires. This ain't a sports car. Lol
The car looks good. Gotta hand it to Toyota on the styling.
They nailed it imho
I have owned the 2016 Prius model 3/ 5 dr hatchback. since I bought it new. I bought it. because I can have a heavy foot at times. If I am running late.
I wanted to get the best fuel mileage when I need to go a little faster. I get it doesn’t make sense. ( Buying a Prius for optimum fuel savings)..??
But if your going to have a heavy foot at times. And your driving a vehicle with terrible gas mileage. Then your going to be spending much more at the pump.
So my thought was why not get the vehicle with the best gas mileage and save more money..!!
My car’s average fuel mileage is 43-47 miles per gallon. I live in the desert in CALFORNIA. But travel 4 hours away ( one way) to go to the VA hospital for treatment… no other VA hospitals closer.
I traded my Ram 1500 for this vehicle. Which got 12- 15 miles per gallon. it also worked out much better. Because my insurance cost went down. So it was a win win.
Miss my truck honestly. But not the fuel cost. And my car isn’t slow. Their is a reason why the speedometer says 120 on them.
On straight away in the desert highways, i can hit 115 miles an hour. If I want too. But I keep it slightly above the speed limit when traffic permits. The CHP likes to sneak up on you. Lol
I like your approach!
in ohio your registration cost for prime is 200$ a year the same as all electric . Any hybrid in ohio is100$ registration. State rep agreed with me that a plug in/hybrid should be somewhere in the middle like 150$ but not worth the litigation to change. I m retired so I have the time to hyper mile....i am able to achieve40 - 45 miles all electric in city on my 2020 prime. I enjoy stabilizing the flow of traffic with my speed management techniques. Toyota #1
$38k for midlevel prime vs $40 k - tax break for entry model 3. Not sure this is going to sell that well.
They plan to sell about 15K of the Prime in 2023 iirc. Not a high volume vehicle like the Tesla. They plan to sell around 36K of the non plug-in version this year as well.
I'm interested in getting one, but I just can't pay $40k+ out the door for a Prius (Prime)! Maybe it's something I'll buy used in 2-3 years.
The 40 Miles electric is what we're interested in. Also, what KW chargers on the road will it handle or is it home charging only?
It's L2 charging only at around 6 kW. No point charging on the road as it's too slow. It functions as a conventional hybrid after the battery depletes and it's still very efficient. Less expensive than EV charging on the road at $0.36/kWh that EA charges.
@@revmatchtv Good points.
@@revmatchtv that would take about 2 hours and 15 minutes to charge the battery from empty for those wondering. 13.6 kw/h battery.
Dealers are marking them up $5K. 26 cents per KW residential outside of Los Angeles, free with home solar.
I don't support markups! I pay around $0.21/kWh for power in LA on a non-tiered rate plan. Solar cuts my power bill about 1/3 on average year round.
It looks great but i dont need the prime package or the plug in .
What mpg no plugging ever??
do you exhaust the entire battery first before going into hybrid mode?
Yes
You should. It's more efficient and better for the engine.
@@kiefershanks4172 So it still works in hybrid mode when you exhaust the entirety of the battery supply in EV mode?
Watched a prime video earlier, in Colorado off peak is 3¢/kwh...😮
$0.20 in California where I live :/
@@revmatchtv .075 here, I get it for.0675 no fees... I thought THAT was cheap 🤔
Nobody has tested the charge mode on this prime. When your battery is empty put it on charge mode to charge the battery back up to 80 % while driving. then use battery only again. And repeat to get the actual MPG will you be testing this feature on it.
Good idea, but the car is back with Toyota. Most people will charge at home because it's going to be less expensive than using the gas engine to charge the battery.
Wow that's pretty for a orius
I never had an interest in this type of car until now. It looks very nice and the performance is greatly improved. I might finally get rid of my Toyota (Pontiac) Vibe.
If you were to choose between the Prius Limited versus the Prius Prime XSE (Not Premium), which would you choose?
For about $1,100 more I'd take the XSE Prime because I think you can probably make up the $1,100 in gas in a few years if you drive a lot. If you need AWD, then the regular Prius is your only option.
I wish electric cars could still have steam gauges. I like the idea of driving a electric car but prefer normal instrument panel. Not a display but real ones with fine increments kinda like we had back in the 80s.
50.2? For all that? Christ my 2017 Passat got 40 on the highway. So does a base model Camry. Why even get one of these?
I drive a 2020 Prius, I get 52 miles per gallon. I can get even better with more city driving. I live in a hilly, windy place - not ideal for prius at all. When I drive in flatter areas without crazy wind, I get 55-60mpg no problem. With your electric you are only at 61.6mpg. Without electric, 50.8 mpg. Basically this thing will save you a tiny bit of money, depending how small your driving habits are. Doesn't seem worth it for the extra price and fact that you have a bigger battery to fail/replace.
60 db is not bad for 6.4 sec 0-60. Make sure you refill it if you don't drive the gas engine that much
50mpg still blows ICEs out of the water
I thought about investing in Prius myself.