iPhone SE 2024 - Don't Buy ANY iPhone Right Now!
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iPhone SE 4 - Don't Buy ANY iPhone in 2024. What will Apple's new product be like? Let's break down all the rumors and leaks about the new "budget" iPhone today. What processor will be in the smaller version of the iPhone, what camera, screen and will Dynamic Island and will notch remain? Who should buy the new iPhone SE - students, schoolchildren or the novelty will be suitable for all purposes and tasks? Today we will understand.
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Apple would be dumb to not use the iPhone 13 mini form factor as the SE. They’d satisfy the “small phone” fanatics that loved the mini, while also significantly differentiating the SE from base yearly premium iPhones.
I've thought about it...
SE1 = same design as 5S
SE2/3 = same design as 6
Which other designs do we have after that that's not Plus/Max?
X/XS
XR
12mini/13mini
14
(Not a complete list above but you get the point)
Why base SE4 on the 14 design? It's like shooting yourself in the foot! Most people gonna buy the cheaper SE4 instead of 14. It's called cannibalism.
So 12mini/13mini is the perfect design for SE4. No cannibalism. And Apple knows that there's at least some demand for a "mini" phone. That will be perfect for SE4!
I'm fully aware of the rumor that SE4 will be based on 14 but it's not logical.
And the logical release date is march 2024.
@@cjeelde From Apple’s perspective, theoretically they probably have way more parts laying around for the base model iPhones. I think the issue may be that it’s harder to cram everything in the mini, thus it’s more expensive, so lower margin. With the SE I don’t think Apple wants to have any significant engineering costs, which would go up due to the smaller form factor. It’d be much easier for them to take an old base iPhone, change the color, and slap an SE badge on it.
Still though, in the long run it’d be a better solution to use the mini because they’d always have product differentiation automatically and it casts a wider net because the phone is small.
@@johnmoore1495 It doesn't depend on parts (spare parts) laying around to create a SE4 based on this or that design. Apple is one of the richest companies and they can order the parts that they need. There will be engineering costs but probably low.
IPhone 13 is the cheapest numbered model now. From september 2024 to september 2025, 14 will be the cheapest, and we cannot have SE4 with the 14 design.
SE4 will most likely not have the extra hardware for maxed out AirTag compatibility. Ultra Wideband? And as always only one camera sensor. So some cost cuts. Max 4 GB RAM or maybe 6 GB RAM as best but not 8 GB.
The 12/13 mini design means a smaller display and smaller battery. Cheaper. Apple wanna keep that 429 dollar price point and they can do that with Mini.
And guess why Apple ended Mini after 12 and 13? And replaced it with Plus with 14? It's all about money. Max out the revenue stream from iPhone.
When did Apple end iPhone 8? There was a commercial gap between iPhone 8 and april 2020 when SE2 came out?
Let's hope for SE4 for the Mini design! Fingers crossed!
Ideally they would release 2 versions of the SE, both a 6,1 and a 5,4 inch version 🙏🏼
@@RobertReenders no, because you already got a 6,1" iPhone. You can buy that one (15/15pro) if you want that size. iPhone SE 5,4" would be a great move! IPhone 5'4" is a great size! I miss it!
I was hoping for a 13 Mini successor of some form. I'll be keeping my 13 Mini til it becomes unusable. I cannot stand these stupid huge phones.
Same. But if mine breaks I’ll get it repaired or buy another from amazon renewed store.
Completely agree. 12 mini until it dies!
I love the 13 mini. I only thing I don't love is its battery capacity vs. the larger phones.
Me too. The iPhone 13 m is my favourite phone. I'll keep it for the longest possible time
@@benskeen9793you are not alone buddy😅
I would rather have the iPhone 13 Mini be the chassis for the iPhone SE. It would be stupid not to do that
I found my old iPhone 4 in a drawer the other day, and all I could think of is that I really wish Apple still made one model that was that small.
5S was pretty much perfect.
Agreed. Phones these days are so darn huge. Hard to find small phone with all new tech.
I'm still mad that the rumours seem to point that they're not using the iPhone 13 Mini form factor. Making it the same size with the iPhone 14 would only drive customers away from the regular iPhone. By making it smaller, it would create clearer segmentation, making it clear to the customers that the SE 4 is cheaper therefore smaller. It would also satisfy folks like me and many others who are not thrilled with how big the iPhone has gotten.
Sounds like you're buying a phone just for the sense of luxury instead of value or functionality? But then again, why opted for a standard phone?
Except for those who love microscopic sized phones, there's absolutely no reason to hate the current rumored SE design apart from your delicate ego. there's no bigger sign of stupidity than ego. I love the 6.1 and the rumored design of the new SE. They are doing the right thing and I am a Pro Max user. If you wanna show off but then you opted with iPhones to boost your ego, you're a laughing stock.
@@WOTM8it's their opinion not yours
@@WOTM8you can do things on a small phone I don’t know what you’re trying to say but you’re not making any sense! Wanting a smaller phone doesn’t mean less functionality!
@@MillhouseSpeaks and the reason why it MUST be small when it can actually be big and be more functional is? come on.. spit all your "common sense" here.
@@WOTM8 just admit you’re not competent with smartphones unless they’re big!
i have small hands, i can't hold an iphone 14.....
I wish they'd bring back the minis, and the SE would've been the best place to do it imo.
if mini means a smaller battery then I would rather SE not take a similar form
Is the SE coming out in 2025?!?! 😅 EVERYWHERE IT SAYS THAT BUT YT VIDEOS ALL SAY "WE ARE HOPING FOR 2024" WTF
Some of us are delaying the SE3 purchase or 13 mini bc no official word from Slum-Lord-APPLE-Head-Honchos
LoL 🤣
The SE is nice because it’s smaller and easier to use with one hand. I’ve owned the 1st Gen & 3rd gen currently. Making it bigger is a disadvantage. Removing the Home button is another reason I’d NOT buy one.
You are right, home button should stay and combined with 5.8inch display would be fantastic!
Price difference is not all. We love SE exactly because it's small and with Touch ID home button.
ya rly. The home button/thumb reader is what's keeping me. I don't care for face-id. I like the smaller form factor. I hope if if they get rid of home button, they put thumb sensor on side power button
Don’t get stuck in the past. Move on…
@@prasade.p.3120 no
It would seem lots of people are disagreeing with your opinions including myself.
As a longtime Apple user and current 15 Pro owner I would love to see Apple make the SE a clone of the 13 Mini, those seem to be the comments mentioned the most regarding your video.
There’s a HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE that want the Mini to return, including myself.
I just want them to use the 13 mini chassis
13 mini with good battery is everything to me
@@Krolzin4 same, and it would be even more possible by condensing the camera array to a single sensor and removing the mmWave band tbh.
I'm really hoping they stick to the iphone 11 body. I want the rounded edges back. The square sides of the 12/13/14/15 are uncomfortable to me and the cases I prefer don't stay on nearly as well.
I just want an iPhone with the old iPhone Model designs. What’s so hard about having a button for touch id and face ID?
NOOOOOOOO! Apple, keep a good quality 1080p LCD screen to keep the price down and give a decent NEW iPhone for the 10% of us that can’t use OLED due to PWM. 10% doesn’t sound much, but that’s MILLIONS of Apple customers!
What exactly is PWM and how is it affecting your iPhone usage?
@AshwathSudarsan PWM means Pulse Width Modulation, fancy word for... your phone screen turns on and off very fast to simulate brightness, some people dont notice but some people do and it gives them headaches and some other types of pain
@@xaronadams6804PWM on Samsung S23/+/Ultra sucks too.
I want an oled se but if they could give a 1440p lcd or a 1080 oled im happy
Oled is much better LCD is for boomers
The iPhone 14 would make the ideal SE 4 & most people will benefit from last years model as the iPhone 14 will be a wise choice with iOS updates, etc
I was wishing we have one more iphone mini with dynamic island, type c
But notch in 2025
It's sucks
Specially
Single camera not accepted 😞😞
This makes no sense... the whole reason the SE is still around, even after the mini went out of commission is for the smaller size and the home button.
because the old SE phones have been in old small design with the newest processor their battery life is pretty abysimal. even when it was brand new I could really not feel an upgrade from iPhone 7 to se because the brand new phone would die just as fast, wheras this old iPhone 12 I have currently with a old battery still last longer. who cares what features a phone has if its dead. I personally can't recommend SE to anyone just go for androids at that price. however a 14 is slightly bigger I believe so hopefully they can fix battery life issues in the new se
The se was not solely made for its small design lol. It simply used the old iPhone design (iPhone 8) which so happens to be small. iPhone since have been bigger so if it used a old design like the xr it will be bigger
Touch ID on the edge wouldn't work well with a case. What about LCD vs OLED?
Your prodoction value is fantastic
I would prefer an XR/11 chassis with smaller Face ID. The iPhone 12-14 edges are too sharp. Either way, I reckon it will be a recycled chassis with the internals upgraded (camera, chip, ram etc). That’s what they did with all prior iPhone SE’s and that’s fine by me. 😊
What would be different between this and the 13 Mini? Sounds too similar
I don't think it makes sense for Apple to have an SE so similar to the current gen. The whole thing about the SE is that it uses an older form factor to cut prices and satisfy people who like said design better. It's always been a way to have a kind of "vintage" product available for the ones who enjoy it more. It would make the most sense to use the XR or the 13 mini form factor. Not the 14.
Will the SE-4 still include the physical SIM card tray, or will it be removed and only have the eSIM capability?
Oh they'll absolutely remove it.
Probably esim slots for USA while 1 esim 1 nano sim for Asian markets.
@@CometFire2010 and in it's place will be a useless block of plastic that serves no purpose except to take up space that could be a headphone jack if they could design their phones right.
Only thing missing is SIM card tray. Really need that and keeping me from upgrading
13 mini here. Features I want are dynamic island, 2x zoom , A16 chip and USB-C. Lightning is dead ! use a power connector that both apple and android phones can use.
I just bought an iPhone 12 mini as an cheap way to test the waters and see if I would prefer to stick to Android or make the jump. I was originally looking at the 3rd gen SE, but the lack of a 1080p OLED display killed it for me. If I like my iOS experience with the 12 mini, and the 4th gen SE steps up from that lackluster display, I'll certainly look into moving over to the new SE.
Keep in mind this is a budget phone, I think they may just cut the OLED and Face ID. The camera is also probably not gonna get the 48MP sensor. I think this can make it $429. Maybe they will have Touch ID instead of Face ID to test out these sensor for the iPhone 16. I would expect it will use the A15 instead.
I’m hoping my iPhone SE 3 will last me until 2030 at least.
OLED screens are cheaper now more than ever, don’t let Apple have you think they’re some premium technology, it’s not 2013. Not to mention the last iPhone sold with an LCD screen (besides the SE) was the iPhone 11 which launched on September 20th, 2019. There’s phones that cost less than $200 that come with OLED screens, considering everything else will be recycled parts they should have no problem making an OLED iPhone SE for $400. But it’ll probably be $500 because you know “inflation.”
apple has never introduced new tech for the se. they are gonna keep face id to avoid the engineering costs to develop touch id for the ip14 housing. the oled thing may be true tho. it would make sense for them to use the same lcd panel that the iphone 11 used just to widen the gap
I hope you’re right about the oled. LCD is the way to go. Less eye strain and headaches due to PWM.
doesnt the iphone se 3 have a15? cutting the oled is great, but face id is essential
How would it be possible ?
Jumping from android for sure can’t wait hope September 2024. Loving render look
Still using my mini 12
I wish they would use the iphone mini’s chassis..still using my iPhone 12 mini its still functioning really well in gaming and still takes good photos 🙌
Considering the Eu's laws about USBc and removable batteries over the next few years I look forward to the SE! I have a 15 now and while I like it once it's paid off I want something more utilitarian and well not under a constant payment plan XD Great video!
I have a iPhone 12 Pro Max I just brought a few weeks ago I really didn’t care about going for the newest models this phone has the same size screens as the latest ones but not the same battery life or processor but I still think the 12 (all models) is a good phone but the last upgrade I’m getting is probably the 13 or 14 pro max
I hate notch, punch hole and the dinamic island as well, so tempted to buy the SE 3 before it's gone.
I'm using an original SE and my wife is using iPhone 8. We are looking at the basic 15 but hearing this news I might wait to see about SE4...because change is hard! Lol.
@@doodle8I am sure that the iPhone 15 will make sharper pictures than the se 1st gen.
As a first timer entering ios world.I went with 13Mini instead of SE 3 recently. Size is important for me since I am a lite user who don't mind the batt capacity.
They can easily just move the home button to the side and both parties are happy. There was no need to remove it completely
i love the round design
If Apple is going hard on the Vision Pro then I would think that they would want the 2 camera in-line set up on EVERY new iPhone (no matter what the price point is) to be able to shoot 3D Spatial Videos. I think they just might surprise us with the 2 cameras.
Thays not happening. they want people to have the fear of missing out which pushes them to go for the more expensive iphones rather than just the se
@@StarStudios.mp4 Then, why bother with the SE at all? Just to get the money-conscious people who aren’t susceptible to FOMO to buy into the Apple ecosystem? It doesn’t make sense to put out a product that you don’t want people to buy.
@@StarStudios.mp4 Especially when you’ve got this expensive brand new “ground breaking” product that you want people to desire launching soon. If spatial video is a big selling point You’d want Everyone with a new Apple phone to be able to make that content, no?
There's a reason they only put the Spatial Video feature on the iPhone 15 pro. It has a better camera system, along with the LiDAR sensor. The LiDAR sensor helps with depth information. The 3D videos wouldn't work without it is my thought on this.
@@aayushtarhalkar4233Spartial video will prolly also work on the regular 16s which wont have LIDAR sensors. its just the vertical camera alignment. it has nothing to do with the 48mp. if apple wanted to they could put it on the older iphones with a software update but they wont because thats bad business
They got rid of home button…what’s the point to buy it now?
Exactly- it's better to get 13 for same price
I was just at the Apple Store and I was so tempted to trade in my iPhone 14 Pro for the SE because I love the form factor and I miss the home button that bad 😂
My 13Pro is still working like a charm. Don't worth changing it, the same way it was worthless switching to 14 and 15..
Yup
After 18 months of using my 13 pro I’ve bought the 13 mini because the pro is to big heavy and uncomfortable to use so I’m getting rid of it. When you have to use two hands to use a mobile it becomes a tablet.
@@Sean_03_636 your right about it being heavy but after 2 years I’m used to it and my phone still 90%+ so yeah it’s a very solid phone with good features
tbh releasing se4 as modified iphone 14 would be a backstab for apple. the only way i'm seeing it is xr chassis (as been said previously) or iphone 12/13 mini. SE always was much smaller than the others + the production line of 13 mini was closed very recently, so maybe they just switched to se4 production (because if apple really wants to release it in march/april they probably have some test models already produced)
There are some people who still like the fingerprint rather than faceid bro..
Less bazzel with touch id ..it will be awesome
@random-alarms-media don't know can be innovative in some other way..
I just want a new SE Plus with a home button. Is that too much to ask for?
I do have an iPhone 14 in purple. I also have SE(2) in white as backup iPhone. I also have iPhone 8 in silver grey. The battery sucks on it. SE(2) is still a good iPhone. I used it a little bit over 2 years before getting iPhone 14. The SE is just a little bit smaller than 14. I saw iPhone 13 mini and that was too small for me. I went to my carrier to looked at the iPhones on display in early October 2022. I liked the purple color on the 14 plus. I also liked iPhone 14 in blue,too. My 3rd choice was iPhone 13 in pink. I even gotten 3 cases for the 14 from Target that was for the 13. The cases both fit 13 and 14. Now these days iPhone 15 will fit in the same cases. I’m thinking of the 15 as my next iPhone. I still liked the pink or blue or yellow on the 15.
Will there be a 2024 model?
I really wish I had gotten a mini.
I would be interested if it just has the same home button on the front as the SE 2/3 even if they slightly change the size or add dynamic island or notch. JUST DON'T TAKE AWAY THE HOME BUTTON. Im not interested in swiping to close out apps and get to the home page
You're living under a rock.
Well your in the minority, the se is severely outdated and it needs to be updated, if you don’t like the home button you honestly need to suck it up
Update everything on the phone just keep it small and keep the home button
@@evanfalls5332
@@evanfalls5332 then don’t buy it? I use SE simply for the home button
I like my se gen 3 so I might consider the gen 4
The iPhone SE 2 and 3 both got the iPhone pro chipsets in them at the time.
I hope it will be mini too 🙂
Iphone 11 chassis, I don't think they'll use the recent design
I don't have a notch, oh that's right i switched to Samsung! And one of my favorite features is the fingerprint scanner! Which worked perfectly while wearing a mask all during covid! haha
I’m watching this video from my IPhone SE 3 with huge edges and I don’t have any problem with its design. I like how it is and I like the fingerprint reader more than face id 👍🏼
Why not iPhone 13 Mini chassis ???
I disagree , my parents in their mid 60s have been using the se exclusively, they dont want the gestures , they just want familiar. If this does come out its a win for me cause ill get them over to android especially since there will be a learning curve anyway
SE could be rebranding as SMALL EDITION im full in love of mini form factor and im wishing mini phone got dynamic island
if the “SE” is 6.something inches taller, I’m just gonna go and grab the 3rd gen SE refurbished/on sale wherever i find it at this point…
They should make an SE ecosystem...iphone SE Pad, Watch, smartphone, beats, Laptop
as far as price I kind of doubt that it will have an oled screen making the price at little cheaper so I would think that be around $489
Is the SE coming out in 2025?!?! 😅 EVERYWHERE IT SAYS THAT BUT YT VIDEOS ALL SAY "WE ARE HOPING FOR 2024" WTF
Some of us are delaying the SE3 purchase or 13 mini bc no official word from Slum-Lord-APPLE-Head-Honchos
LoL 🤣
I'll pay six 😂bills (600$ maybe more) but that's IF it came out April of this year 😅
About to purchase a SE3 but not pay 429$ I found open box item but new phone for 289$ on eBay so I dunno 😮 😅 it does look new with the initial screen tag for removal ready along with warranty until end of 2024 so maybe 🤔 i pull the trigger my finger itchinG 😊hairpinTriggaFinga playyyyaH
I was supposed to buy iPhone se 3, but when I went to apple store, I found out iPhone se 4 is going to be releasing. so, I will wait 😊This April ?
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Honestly I prefer it with the iPhone XR style with updating processor and call it a day.
Man all I want is an iPhone with both a home button and an ultrawide lens. I would buy it in a heartbeat (well, more like 5 years after it releases, when the price goes down)
Just wait for a price cut. Everytime I bought a SE the price goes down by a lot. So this time around going to just skip it.
Action button is good but not with the current location. Hahaha
I love the 13 mini, and would definitely buy the SE4 if it uses the small form factor. will be very disappointed if they use the iPhone 14 size :(
I have an iPhone 8, should I have for this SE 4 or just buy an iPhone 14?
Buy SE 4
Have iPhone 15 pro max wish it was bigger atleast same size as s23 ultra
and the 48 mp camera is a little much! remember that this is still has to be cheaper than the base iPhone! I can see something like 20 mp at the most!
A little off topic, but I really like your glasses! They look very nice on you :)
Will it be 5G?
Action button and 48MP... not gonna happen
That are features for the full edition models
I also thought that the 13 mini design would be perfect, also from their perspective
هل يمكنك وضع ترجمة and I like yours videos
I was hoping for something like SE Plus suing the 8 plus body.
I feel the new SE should be like SE3 with 4.7 inch display with full screen. Or they bring back SE 4 with the mini model. Would be excellent
I would like to see a 5.8" body. I would definitely buy one.
SE is meaningless without the home button, the small size and the LCD screen! Many people love these three features. My late husband loved the SE - he couldn’t get used to Android and the larger format. I know people (still alive) who are like him when it comes to the SE being the best phone of the world!
For my part, i have a wonderful iPhone 12 Mini even though the 60hz hurts my eyes 😢
I like it except for the battery… in 2023 it’s abysmal
@@tree-cy1qn really? My SE 3rd gen battery lasts all day... but then again I am not a social media addict.
@@Cute_MaxiOh.. yes u are‼️ You're making a comment on UA-cam. That's technically social media.
Btw, I love reading these comments on UA-cam, when I'm about to watch a video that I've seen in article or that I'm looking up. The comments make me laugh, to think of how stupid u lot are. And videos like on these phones happens to come on to my YT homepage all the time.
I seriously doubt that the iPhone se 4 will get the action button as the original models don't even have it yet!
The only problem I have with the SE3 is that it overheats and shuts down in the summer when it's 90F outside.
What version of iOS do you use?
@@Glen7011 Currently, 17.1.2, it is asking me to update to 17.2.1 though.
Bring back home button! I use iPhone SE 2020 because of it…
FaceID sucks, at least give the option of a digital fingerprint access if they are going to remove the physical home button
Main question for me will it get bionic A17 pro?🤔
Nope I think the pro Chip will only be in the pro models
You buy the SE for the home button and smaller screen..... why bother with the 14 chassis. Face ID is annoying and finicky if you have to use a mask in a darker setting.
Why they don't make any more mini? I hopefully they change there mind to bring back the Mini series
i think the se sould use the iphone 13 mini design, just a little bit bigger tho, 5.8 inches for example. It would be great.
I just want a small phone from Apple! Still holding on to my SE 2022
Up about mini size ! No more tiles in my pocket !
How they keep recycling product and raising prices...smh
Hello, please tell me when they will go on sale?
I bought my SE2020 in Oct of 2020. It is now Jan 2024 and it does NOT update past 17.0 and is constantly dropping out and glitching and SIRI is USELESS. Why ?
Apple usually have they phone’s updated at least 6/7 years
States in house modem. We all went through the shit show of the 11 pro max modem. Run. Run very fast
I really hope they can squeeze an amoled screen in.
that and don't mess up with the design like the prior SEs that look like cheap chinese phones from back in 2015.
a bit healthy criticism: your video lacks chapters or whatever its called on english youtube, this would give viewers the oportunity to skip to the parts they are interested in (in this case features). the information about the phone might all be there, but its all hidden in a 10 min long video of noise.
the only use your video has for me is that it inspired me to do research on iPhone se 24
Looks like Apple wants to use the same strategy of Apple Watch SE: more affordable, but aesthetically very similar to the most expensive model. I think they want to appeal to those who usually purchase used iPhones. It’s more similar to XR concept than old SE
Why wouldn’t they just reuse the 13 mini chassis? I use my phone for phone things. If I want a larger screen and power I go to my iPad Pro. I don’t want a bigger phone.
I’m against it because I actually prefer the Touch ID feature the SE models offer and hate the Face ID …..it’s why I got the SE in the first place 1:53
Question: My grandmother has been paying for a second line with unlimited talk, text, etc with the devilish AT&T. She is well over 55(she is 82 yrs old). I don’t know how else to lower her phone bill. She is offering to get me a phone for the extra line. Idk how all of that works and which iPhone would be best to get without spending a fortune. She does have a Samsung paid off and I have the iPhone 11 paid off but it has one minor scratch on lens. Any advice?
get a secondhand phone, look around online for used iphones or markets around town that also sell used/second hand phones
The iPhone 13, it have all of the feature you need, smaller notch, better camera. With the 14 you are just getting car crash detection and SE4 would be a downgrade/side grade at best. The iPhone 15 have the usb c but lightning is probably fine
@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 Thank you so much
@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 would it make a difference between the 13, pro or max?
@@mistyisha the pro have a triple camera system(better camera) and there is 120Hz(basically giving you a better feel). The pro max is just a bigger pro.
its gonna be more expensive if they include the face id tech and the action button
will iphone 16 get 120 hz or 60 ?
I think they will keep the 120hz exclusive to the pro models.
Google Pixel 8A VS Apple iPhone SE4
for their market share and subscriptions of apps🔥