The Lions played 4 games in 18 days between the 2 games before Thanksgiving plus the following Thursday. Add the 2 games following the mini bye. The bulk of our injuries happened in that 6 game stretch.
I keep hearing people say "Get new conditioning coaches" but I don't understand how conditioning coaches could prevent the broken bones and torn ACL/MCLs. To me, that doesn't make sense. Most of the injuries were freaky or a result of a "football play"/playing hard
@@robertcorsini4399it isn't random to have 22 defense injured throughout the season. I think they broke some medical records this year along side the other positive records they reversed from years gone by.
Yeah it just happens and it hit our team harder. Conditioning coaches won't do anything. I think if anything they should be stretching more and more band work
These discussions are important and I appreciate the Docs candor. I think the main issue is pushing too hard and somewhat wreckless. Not pacing themselves. Also nutrition, diet, equipment and padding. Hard not to notice many injuries were in the first quarter. Perhaps they aren't warming up/stretching good enough? Many cruciate ligament injuries. The team will have to figure it all out after the pro bowl is over.
@ Doesn’t matter it was friendly. That fact it was friendly only makes more sense. You’re getting aggressive attacking of the ball carrier by swarming to it which is a positive, but on the negative side, it promotes more violent contact. The OP was correct
Open up the 53 man roster to 63. Helps body stress relief...helps more families being able to have a chance to continue playing. NFL needs to open up the pocketbook
And enforce how many downs a player can compete in each game. As long as every team complies, it will.work. All it does is force teams to have depth to be great. You are on to something here
@richhava the personnel availability can make games more exciting. The number is gonna increase one day for safety reasons I think. Its just a process. They already got cushion helmets. NFL just don't wanna spread the money yet for bigger rosters
No idea how Hutch is friendly fire. Yes, his leg broke on another player when his leg whipped around. But, do you actually blame the other guy (Aliem Mcneil?). If he was not there, Dak would have escaped that sack.
Is anyone or any studies being done on, or discussion on the turf, what kinds of turf and grass fields being used throughout the league, is that having effects on injuries
So friendly fire injuries mean that these injuries were self inflicted? So when Campbell said that the Lions are going to break kneecaps we’re he referring to his own Lions?
@@INSANEcuber No it wasn’t. They actually showed the offensive lineman throw his elbow or used a downward thrust on Davenport. That’s how he sustained his injury. There was talk amongst the content creators as to why his injury wasn’t reviewed by the league and a fine levied It was a blatant and deliberate injury to Davenport
That was FAR from friendly fire. That was a dirty play. The offensive lineman pulled his arm and chopped down directly on his elbow. Never seen anything like it outside of MMA
Do the math, once injuries start piling up like they did early for us the remaining good players are on the field longer than they should be resulting in more injuries
Almost every injury has been friendly fire. Dude, he was going down there was no reason for Jack Campbell to launch himself... fuckin' killed the game.
Muscle tears and non contact injuries, some of it is DEHYDRATION, , muscles not flexible enough. The other thing is the style of play, aggressive, violent, so some of it is going to hard at it .
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
Ford Field is a Death Trap ! You might as well be playing on Concrete ! MOST of our injuries this year came at Ford Field . Rip up the present turf and put in player friendly turf ! Sheila Hemp will do it again ! As Richdougherty said in his comments earlier, if we had grass we wouldn’t have our injury problem - but that’s not possible in a Dome Man. 😢
It is possible to have grass inside of a dome, not mistaken. The new Raiders stadium has natural grass. It’s a dome. They roll the field out for Irrigation on sunlight, and then roll it back in to the stadium.
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
I've thought all season that Dan Campbell's culture is the reason for all the injuries. The results are usually great when guys go 110% all game every game. But there is a price to that approach. Over time dudes start dropping like flies. Campbell is a great coach, but attrition is an inevitable part of that recipe.
Is this doctor drunk ??? Anzo missed what 4 or 5 games not most of the year. 17 games - 5 games isn’t most of the year. Hutch broke his leg from hitting McNeils leg swigging around.
The elephant in the room. How many with bone injuries were vaccinated? I know more people in their30s 40s and 50s having hip replacement surgery than EVER before. That is usally an elderly problem.
Nonsense. It’s pure coincidence. You ask a static instead of a doctor. If it was the conditioning, the same rate would’ve happened for the offensive players and it would’ve happened the year before. It’s just a statistical anomaly. Sometimes they call the high probability of the highly improbable. Sit down doc
Sure now you guys start asking these questions. Bro this is soft journalism. Now that the season is over and it's "safe" to ask the tough questions, now y'all do it. I've been asking these questions once we were double the league average. When you get multiple "freak" accidents, then they are no longer outliers anymore and you have to look for tendencies. That's how science and medicine works... But NONE of y'all asked a single question throughout the year when it could've potentially mattered! Soft!
Bc they soft 😜, and sometimes just stupid unloading on ur own guy who already has someone wrapped up. You wrap up in those gang tackles, you don’t unload on ur own teammates arm.
The Lions would be foolish to not look at how they can prevent injuries. Hutch and Anzalone seemed like freak accidents. Jack Campbell did not need to join in on that tackle and breaking Amik’s arm. Maybe Alim’s injury could have been prevented in some way?
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
@ Not frustrated, I’m old enough to know the Lions will let the fan base down. Disappointed at the performance from the last game for sure. Just saying that they get random tests all the time.
Does anybody not think this is on Dan Campbell and the way he practices and pushes these kids so hard? I'm starting to believe so even though I love him, but these kids today are not as hard as their parents and their grandparents were in their day. These guys are all about load maintenance sitting out games that would have never happened back in the '80s and '90s. So I'm starting to think these kids need to be coddled because that's how they've grown up and been treated their whole lives. Once you start pushing them hard it breaks them literally and figuratively
That was a horrible segment. Braylon nailed it at the very top. The same point I made all along amongst my peers. This team wants to play so hard for Dan and AG, that they were completely ignorant against friendly fire. Sure that wasn't all of the injuries, but go back and look at the film. Doc even admitted he didn't study that aspect of friendly fire. Duh!!! Be more disciplined in your tackling. Maintain grit and hard hitting, but when the play is over, its over!
Muscle tears and non contact injuries, some of it is DEHYDRATION, , muscles not flexible enough. The other thing is the style of play, aggressive, violent, so some of it is going to hard at it .
The Lions played 4 games in 18 days between the 2 games before Thanksgiving plus the following Thursday. Add the 2 games following the mini bye. The bulk of our injuries happened in that 6 game stretch.
It’s not just ‘freakish.’ There are numerous reasons why the Lions’ IR is over 2X that of any other team. Let’s start with getting rid of turf!!
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I keep hearing people say "Get new conditioning coaches" but I don't understand how conditioning coaches could prevent the broken bones and torn ACL/MCLs. To me, that doesn't make sense. Most of the injuries were freaky or a result of a "football play"/playing hard
randomness is to blame. It Happens.
Get tackling coaches
@@robertcorsini4399it isn't random to have 22 defense injured throughout the season. I think they broke some medical records this year along side the other positive records they reversed from years gone by.
Yeah it just happens and it hit our team harder. Conditioning coaches won't do anything. I think if anything they should be stretching more and more band work
Agree , but I say we should have great strength and conditioning coaches anyway .
Hutch and McNeil hit shin to shin if I remember correctly.
McNeil’s knee on the hardest, boniest part, on Hutch’s shin
And Branch broke Anzo's arm.
These discussions are important and I appreciate the Docs candor. I think the main issue is pushing too hard and somewhat wreckless. Not pacing themselves. Also nutrition, diet, equipment and padding. Hard not to notice many injuries were in the first quarter. Perhaps they aren't warming up/stretching good enough? Many cruciate ligament injuries. The team will have to figure it all out after the pro bowl is over.
Main issue is brad getting injury prone players
I agree with you, I believe they need to pace themselves, but bad luck can be blame
It was our turn for the injury bug. Detroit will be a much better team next season.
I mean, 15-2 ain’t bad haha. I’d rather have them lose a few more games if it means a better playoff run.
Detroits window has CLOSED
I wonder if Detroit can compensate for the loss of 4 good coaches by allocating $$ to its AI systems. That would retilt things in some respects.
@@hsiehkanusea Keep reaching for a silver lining!!!
We have never had players that fly to the ball like we do now. Dan Campbell has them flying everywhere and that’s a great thing. Crap happens.
Hire John Brown as a strength coach
@@brettwalsh4203 now that’s a great idea !!!!
The injuries basically come with Dan Campbell approach to the game aggressive 100% of the time
Bingo!
@@Jimmy-Legs all broken bones result of friendly fire.
@ Doesn’t matter it was friendly. That fact it was friendly only makes more sense. You’re getting aggressive attacking of the ball carrier by swarming to it which is a positive, but on the negative side, it promotes more violent contact. The OP was correct
Haha have you heard Dan Campbell on the side line ? He be like smash him smash him!!!😂😂😂😂😂 fuk that lol
Brad Holmes getting injury prone players with injury history
Open up the 53 man roster to 63. Helps body stress relief...helps more families being able to have a chance to continue playing. NFL needs to open up the pocketbook
And enforce how many downs a player can compete in each game.
As long as every team complies, it will.work.
All it does is force teams to have depth to be great.
You are on to something here
@richhava the personnel availability can make games more exciting.
The number is gonna increase one day for safety reasons I think. Its just a process. They already got cushion helmets. NFL just don't wanna spread the money yet for bigger rosters
@@TonyChase365
Yes, money is all that matters
Barnes, Davis and Davenport were the opponents injuring them. Hutch and McNeil wasn’t friendly fire
No idea how Hutch is friendly fire. Yes, his leg broke on another player when his leg whipped around. But, do you actually blame the other guy (Aliem Mcneil?). If he was not there, Dak would have escaped that sack.
Can some one look into which stadium had the most injuries this year
Ive thought about this aspect too. How may were on turf!?
the explanation is that Jeff Daniels didn't start the season with that Bobby lane ritual again
Is anyone or any studies being done on, or discussion on the turf, what kinds of turf and grass fields being used throughout the league, is that having effects on injuries
So friendly fire injuries mean that these injuries were self inflicted? So when Campbell said that the Lions are going to break kneecaps we’re he referring to his own Lions?
Davenport injury was also friendly fire!
@@INSANEcuber
No it wasn’t. They actually showed the offensive lineman throw his elbow or used a downward thrust on Davenport. That’s how he sustained his injury. There was talk amongst the content creators as to why his injury wasn’t reviewed by the league and a fine levied It was a blatant and deliberate injury to Davenport
That was FAR from friendly fire. That was a dirty play. The offensive lineman pulled his arm and chopped down directly on his elbow. Never seen anything like it outside of MMA
@@brandonbaty2291
True that my brother. It was horrible
Do the math, once injuries start piling up like they did early for us the remaining good players are on the field longer than they should be resulting in more injuries
The injuries were a direct result of their play style
Has anybody heard of this many injuries on any other team in the NFL before could some of these injuries be this new turf at Ford Field
I broke my humerus could never throw a football/baseball/frisbee the same again. Always hurt eventually.
I took an arrow to the knee, never made a field goal again.😊
Your humorous? Is that like your funny bone or something? 😂
Almost every injury has been friendly fire. Dude, he was going down there was no reason for Jack Campbell to launch himself... fuckin' killed the game.
It was ridiculous
That's just Dan's coaching style, go balls out every play ......even if it's a game that doesn't matter or in garbage time when the game is over.
Muscle tears and non contact injuries, some of it is DEHYDRATION, , muscles not flexible enough. The other thing is the style of play, aggressive, violent, so some of it is going to hard at it .
Thank you for being a thinker.
The defense needs to get sharper mentally. Play attention to your surroundings. Second thing is rotation to keep them fresh
Hutch will be fine by OTAs. I broke my leg 6 months ago. As soon as the bone grows back together, it is stronger than before.
Comfrey leaf would of been healed it
Fix the field put grass
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
Strength and conditioning, they’re a Young team…need to get bigger , stronger , faster
Game looked too fast for them, they’ll be back
Ford Field is a Death Trap ! You might as well be playing on Concrete ! MOST of our injuries this year came at Ford Field . Rip up the present turf and put in player friendly turf ! Sheila Hemp will do it again !
As Richdougherty said in his comments earlier, if we had grass we wouldn’t have our injury problem - but that’s not possible in a Dome Man. 😢
I thought they same thing. Was counting back on where the injuries took place and 95% of them where at Ford field. Wild stuff
It is possible to have grass inside of a dome, not mistaken. The new Raiders stadium has natural grass. It’s a dome. They roll the field out for Irrigation on sunlight, and then roll it back in to the stadium.
Does the Turf having anything to do with these NFL injuries? I think we need to go to grass…. But it might more expensive
No way Hutchinson was gonna play in the Super Bowl if they got there
He was big cap cause he knew lions wasn’t makin it 😂😂😂 that big ass mf will be finished if he tried lol
He can’t even stand on his own leg with out all them pain killers hahahah
@@mrdrooboiii8116that’s a lie he’s walking normal
I’m glad we will never know. He has a much longer time to get back to 100% with no risk.
It’s the turf! You switch to grass and you don’t get half the injuries.
Y'all talk and talk. It's simple. Strength and conditioning. Stretching, yoga etc
Brad holmes needs not roll dice on guys with injury history , he seems to do that alot
I was just saying that to my father in law. They get injury prone guys that they can get for cheap
It was The CURSE. 👈 How else do you explain it!? 🤷♂️
Friendly fire seems to cause many injuries because their unexpected.
Lions players need to Drink some Milk for stronger Bones 😂😂😂
Check the calcium level in the Detroit water supply, for one…
Nutrition doctors
It’s just a part of football people get injured
Not these numbers
It's brad Holmes getting injury prone players
@@AnthonyJones-j6g possibly. You would have to look at each of the 24 players that were on IR I guess and look at their careers.
@cathysmith1555 it's very disrespect barry a all time great Gibbs good
@cathysmith1555 it speaks for itself
Watch out for the other guy in blue.. try not to torpedo them with your helmet!
Louis Delmas was famous for flying in late and blasting one of our own players, injuring them.
Artificial turf
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
Is it because of the surface they play on?
nope
Yes, besides Hutch, every major injury happened at home.
I've thought all season that Dan Campbell's culture is the reason for all the injuries. The results are usually great when guys go 110% all game every game. But there is a price to that approach. Over time dudes start dropping like flies. Campbell is a great coach, but attrition is an inevitable part of that recipe.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bingo!
its curious that teams that played the Lions, usually lost the following week. Are Lions games more physical than an average NFL game?
Most of the injuries were broken bones, they need to drink more milk🤷😂
Weak things don’t break
Is this doctor drunk ??? Anzo missed what 4 or 5 games not most of the year. 17 games - 5 games isn’t most of the year. Hutch broke his leg from hitting McNeils leg swigging around.
Replace that awful turf with grass. Easier said than done tho
Yoga is the answer. 😂
Coneys
Detroit lions last 3 years record is loosing season. 2-15 3 years in a row.
Because brad only aquire injury prone players
The elephant in the room.
How many with bone injuries were vaccinated?
I know more people in their30s 40s and 50s having hip replacement surgery than EVER before. That is usally an elderly problem.
Yeah we are the only team that plays hard lol 😆 😂
Nonsense. It’s pure coincidence. You ask a static instead of a doctor. If it was the conditioning, the same rate would’ve happened for the offensive players and it would’ve happened the year before. It’s just a statistical anomaly. Sometimes they call the high probability of the highly improbable. Sit down doc
You can not play 110% every snap of every game, the Jets will get decimated next season, watch.
Ermani is clueless... 100% the organization is s fault for terrible tackling technique
I believe that the lions lost because Jared was playing with concussion.
I wonder
Because they're playing football. 😂😂
Sure now you guys start asking these questions. Bro this is soft journalism. Now that the season is over and it's "safe" to ask the tough questions, now y'all do it. I've been asking these questions once we were double the league average.
When you get multiple "freak" accidents, then they are no longer outliers anymore and you have to look for tendencies. That's how science and medicine works...
But NONE of y'all asked a single question throughout the year when it could've potentially mattered! Soft!
Bc they soft 😜, and sometimes just stupid unloading on ur own guy who already has someone wrapped up. You wrap up in those gang tackles, you don’t unload on ur own teammates arm.
Seems like the injuries are rigged for the lions ...😂😂 i dont understand how that happens
So the answer is. You have no idea! More than double the injuries than every other team. But just bad luck huh? Bs
GET RID OF TURRRRF....
Clk bait title, no answer !!
The Lions would be foolish to not look at how they can prevent injuries. Hutch and Anzalone seemed like freak accidents. Jack Campbell did not need to join in on that tackle and breaking Amik’s arm. Maybe Alim’s injury could have been prevented in some way?
bobby laynes curse is alive and well
Not enough milk
A injury-free season with our roster would be an easy 17-0
TURF
What did the field have to do with hutchinson leg? Nothing. What did it do anzolone arm getting smashed in between 2 players? Nothing. What about amik and his broken arm? He got hit while upright. So Nothing. Turf vs grass isn't the issue.
Dr full of crap and is wrong
Steroids would be my guess
Yeah, they never get tested for all sorts of substances do they?
@blauer2551 Don't take your frustration out on me.
Its not my fault that your fan base got gas lit into thinking they were gonna win the super bowl
@ Not frustrated, I’m old enough to know the Lions will let the fan base down. Disappointed at the performance from the last game for sure. Just saying that they get random tests all the time.
Does anybody not think this is on Dan Campbell and the way he practices and pushes these kids so hard? I'm starting to believe so even though I love him, but these kids today are not as hard as their parents and their grandparents were in their day. These guys are all about load maintenance sitting out games that would have never happened back in the '80s and '90s. So I'm starting to think these kids need to be coddled because that's how they've grown up and been treated their whole lives. Once you start pushing them hard it breaks them literally and figuratively
Got Milk?
That was a horrible segment. Braylon nailed it at the very top. The same point I made all along amongst my peers. This team wants to play so hard for Dan and AG, that they were completely ignorant against friendly fire. Sure that wasn't all of the injuries, but go back and look at the film. Doc even admitted he didn't study that aspect of friendly fire. Duh!!! Be more disciplined in your tackling. Maintain grit and hard hitting, but when the play is over, its over!
Agreed! Mindfulness and awareness. Hutch was a fluke. Many others were from a turbo charged attack. Watch out for your brother. Imo
@bassrock20 exactly
Muscle tears and non contact injuries, some of it is DEHYDRATION, , muscles not flexible enough. The other thing is the style of play, aggressive, violent, so some of it is going to hard at it .