That's pretty much true. I'm Norwegian and I know Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Great Britain, Spain etc all have awesome healthcare. Some even better than ours.
A quick story about Norwegians paying taxes. When my first born son was born with a serious health problem, we were flown by ambulance plane to the best surgeons in Norway. He stayed in hospital for 3 weeks recovering. Me and my wife were also flown to the hospital, we stayed in a hospital hotel for the entire 3 weeks. There was a nurse watching over my son, exclusively, for the first week. 3 shifts per day/night. After 3 weeks, we were sent home, and a specialist visited us at home to teach us how to continue the required training. For the next two years, all three of us flew to the hospital monthly so that the doctors could follow up on us. This cost us zero. So yeah, I'll pay my taxes happily for the rest of my life.
Beeing norwegian with luncancer stage four for eigth years. My treatment cost more than 100k us dollars per year. I only pay 300 dollars per year for that. Beat that! Yes, I am not complaining paying taxes…
I'm so glad you get the health care you need. It seems to work really well for you, too! 👍Life must be difficult enough with a diagnosis like that, and dealing with financial struggles and filling out endless paperwork on top of that is the LAST thing you need. God jul! 🎄🤶
I'm a Norw. citicen. This happened to me a few years back: I had a rather serious bike accident. I was found unconscious in the street. Someone called our local 9-1-1. They sent an ambulance, that took me to the emergency room at a nearby hospital. They stabilized me and ran several initial tests, including CT scans of my head & neck. The next morning they sent me to the trauma centre of a different hospital. They kept me there for 2 days, running a lot more tests, more X-rays & CT scans, eye doctors checking my eyesight, etc. Luckily, there was nothing serious in the matter with me, so I was released. So, half a day at an emergency room, two days at a trauma center, two ambulance rides. And a week later I received their bill in the mail. It was $9. For some special bandages that for some reason was not included. I thought to myself: why did they even bother sending the bill. It probably brought them no more than 3-4 times more than what they had to pay for postage just sending me the envelope....
The most crazy thing about the american healtcare system - is that US is spending most money i the world on healthcare per capita. Norway is in third place. So the question is - where is the money going? 😅
It goes to huge amount of inefficient administration. US spends vastly more cash on welfare administration, as everything needs to be checks on what is included in insurance, which hospitals are covered etc. Add on that the wasted money on insurance and the fact that people put off going to the hospital or doctor, worsening their condition before finally getting treatment.
@@espetor Norway isn't like the United States. It is a country that has very little corruption. That said you seem to be Norwegian so would love to hear why you think that.
In Finland we do need to pay something, but it is heavily subsidized by the governement, a regular doctors checkup to, for example get a doctors note that you're sick and need to stay home from work is like 30€
We pay like 25-30 for a checkup. To get a sick leave or a recite for some medicine is 10-15 I think. (If you call in later and don’t get it when you have an appointment already)
@@mari97216Guess it depends, last few times I had to get a doctors notice I had to go in for a checkup, only if seeing a nurse is enough have I payed 10-15
I had my apendix taken out: - Woke up crying like a small child due to abdominal pain, called doctor's office as soon as they opened - "Please come see us now", took a taxi, GP called for an ambulance after a quick check - Got admitted, took some tests, waited for a surgery room to become available, and were given nap juice - Woke up to learn they had to actually cut me open due to complications - Stayed an extra week or so for observation/recovery, lots of meds and IV fluids/glucose/morphine throughout - Took a taxi home, govt payed me back for both taxi trips, and my salary for the hospital stay and an extra two weeks of home recovery - No bill
If you are admitted to hospital there is no bill. Not only that - there are no papers involved at all. Not before you go in or when you leave. No waivers to sign of stuff like that. The only paper you may get is a notice to give to your employer that you have been sick and that you need to stay away from work for X more days Last year when I was admitted to hospital I did not even get that (it arrived in the mail a few days later). Also I was told I needed prescription antibiotics - but those prescriptions are digital - so again no paper. You just go to a pharmacy and give them your ID number and the meds will show up on your file. On the day I left (after staying for 6 days) I was simply told in the morning that you can leave today. Get dressed (in your regular clothes) and let the desk know when you are on your way out. And that is what I did.
Taxes are about investing in one's own country and people, and oneself and one's own. With health services that everyone can participate in, we largely get people back to work and their normal lives in a good way. We have little room to lose labor here in Norway. We need everyone.
If Norwegians travel to the USA, we use Norwegian travel insurance, because it covers most things, such as illness, personal injury, damage to other people's property and much more! We pay only 58 dollars for this and then we can be in the USA for 90 days!
Interesting. In Canada we pay nothing except for things not covered under the health care umbrella (i.e. employment related forms and such). By the way not arguing that one is better than the other, just pointing out a difference.
In the nordic countries you get this kind of healthcare without having to pay a significant amount for the care. And, just as important, you still get your regular pay check even if you are not at work. And you can not be fired for not showing up at work due to the treatment and recovery (within certain time limits).
They have to keep you employed for a year. After that year the government have to pay your paycheck instead of the workplace. And at that time they can also find someone else for your position. But at least you wpnt be without money every month
@@adm7998 Isn't an employer only responsible for paying for the first few days if an employee is on a sick leave for a longer period (up to 12 months)? And after 12 months sick, the employee has to be evaluated for his/her capacity to work in general? And after another year or so, the employe that is permanently unable to work is dependant on the state "safety network" that will provide for a minimum payment to survive with some dignity intact
I love norwegian healthcare because I spent 3 weeks in hospital after a lung surgery last year recovering from a pneumothorax, xrays every other day until I finally got cleared. All for free, no paperwork, no nothing. They'll keep you in the hospital longer than necessary just to be sure.
Yes, I have has 2 brain strokes, and stayed in hospital for a month. Cat scan, mr, all for free. Then rehabilitation for two months for free. Pay my taxes with a smile.
The healthcare is amazing, but like this man said, it is not perfect. When you are admitted to a hospital, you don't pay anything, for anything. When you are not admitted, but there for a checkup, or at your GP, there is a copay of about $25-30. When your copay adds up to $300, you get a health free card. No more copay the rest of that year.
I have a friend here in the UK earlier this yr her son collapsed walking in the garden ambulance arrived rushed to A & E. At Ten yrs old found to have a genetic bone issue that caused his hip to dislocate specialist surgery followed no weight bearing for at least 8 mths so hes in a wheelchair & told requires major surgery not until he's at least 16 yrs old hoping bone growth stabilizes his condition.So social & health services now involved ramps to the house fitted physio comes once a week his school provides specialist transport for him to school & home & ambulance pick him up & takes him to hospital appointments the cost zero! you cant put a price on peoples health & welfare, how much would this cost in the USA for all these services for the next several yrs the system may not be perfect in the UK but thank god we have it.
He is speaking the truth.im a proud norwegian myself and have hade need of several visits to hospital and its pretty much almost free of charge each time
You don't have to be a citizen to get healthcare "for free". If a foreigner has a valid permit to stay, he is covered. Not only in Norway, but in the entire EU. In Denmark you will also get "sick-day-payment" so you can handle your bills while recovering. I am not sure how that works in Norway.
In Norway you don't lose a dime if you're sick. The employer has to cover the first two weeks, and after that the government takes over financial responsibility. It's a good incentive for the employer to have a decent work environment that doesn't make people sick or injured.
I live in Norway and have experienced the ER guilt tripping me with "having to use the tax payers money" on me to get me certain help so it's by no means perfect. But with every qualms I have with this system I think about how it's amongst the best in the world and then my heart goes out to people who's in the same situation like me but live in another country
I've had some issues with the ER here too (Bergen). Some are very rude (and expect no apology when they realise they were wrong). Our system is far from flawless, but it is as of now better than the American alternative. You just have to be a bit stubborn when the "I have a bad day and will take it out on you" doctors are there. I've had some ridiculous experiences with them, but they've also saved my life.
@@ThundrGurl I think we all have bad days when we're understaffed and overworked. There's a lot of that in the ERs around the country in Norway. Especially during winter time, with a whole lot of broken bones from people falling on the ice, and skiing accidents during the Easter break. I have watched ER nurses literally run to get things done quickly enough. The thing is: If there's ever a time in our lives when we REALLY don't need to be snapped at, it's when we're sick or injured enough to seek emergency health care.
@@Kari.F. exactly 💯 ! We can all empathize with a difficult work day. And for the most part, the system works. 70% of the times I've been there, they've taken my injuries more seriously than I did. Other times: I got told to get my behind out of there, because the ER was meant for sick people, and without examining me, they could tell I wasn't. Turns out I have a heart condition (I think my young age was the only reason they didn't believe me) .... Instead of going home I took a taxi to another ER and was put in a hospital bed for a few days. But no apology, the ER doc doubled down on his decision and still to this day believe he did everything right... But I think those kind of experiences aren't unique to Norway.
@@ThundrGurl I think this is just a people issue, and can be found anywhere. When I was younger I broke my foot and fractured my ankle in the U.S. With a swelled up foot, thankfully not my driving foot, I decided to try and make the drive back to Canada. As fate would have it my car broke down in Oregon trapping me there. Thankfully in Oregon they have to give care to everyone regardless of their status, so I had the doctor splint up my foot. When I asked him what was wrong with my foot he told me, "You don't need to know, you only need to know I am fixing it." They wouldn't give me crutches till I demanded them. In Canada the doctor cast my foot and than sat down with me and went over the x-ray. This is a people issue, not a system issue, as there are good and bad people skill doctors everywhere. That said that service in the U.S. cost me about $600 while my service in Canada was "free".
As a swede I feel sorry for the people of the US who don´t have what we have. Our health insurance is covered from tax money and it is the same for evrybody. Evryone can afford it. Therefore it is strange to me that the richest country in the whole world EVER can notprovide the same for all of you. If we here in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe can do it, so can you! Put harder pressure on your politicians and demand the same system as we have here!
I´m a psychiatric nurse/cognitiv therapist. In Norway, in my county, everyone who needs it get free psychotherapy for depression and anxiety. It´s paid for by the government and the local authority (basicly the tax payers). We offer up to to 7 or 12 sessions at no cost for the patient.
For me as a Swede, this is just how healthcare works, and as soon as we talk about anything that frighten us with the US, it's the fact that you guys have to pay for it (ofc there'r other things too, but this is the most unbelievable thing to us). So - just let me put it the other way around: what is the worst condition you've been neglecting due to the fear of the price or thoughts of "is it worth the cost"? Ofc I've also neglected things, but that's more like "is this serious enough to spend half a day at the ER?". Or if not an emergency, like my shoulder that's been hurting for half a year - "Will it heal by it self? if not, will they even find what's wrong, or will they just send me back home with some painkillers? And if they don't, for how long will I have to wait to see someone who actually knows what to do about it?" bc I have to say, here in Sweden (can't speak for Norway) having to wait to see a specialist is truly an issue.
I am suffering from a disability that is affecting my muscles and all the support items are free, when you need it. I have an electric operated resting chair that can lift me, an elevated toilet seat and crutches, and all of them are free. I well probably get an electric lift for my outside entrance because I have trouble getting up and down stairs, and that is also free of charge. As soon as my doctors declared that I had become disabled, I could just call a number and all this items will show up in a day or two. No charges AT ALL.
It sounds like Norway is very similar to Denmark healthcare and in the same time we feel a responsible to the society, government and each other As an example: when Covid 19 in 2020 was a it's peak and before there was a vaccine, the government and the healthcare personnel had to point out that if you needed a doctor - then go to the doctor because most people wanted to give room and resources to Covid19 patients so they would wait to see if it was very serious or it would go over by itself But it was pointed out that our healthcare system is still for all and not just for Covid19 patients
this is just when your injury is work related in Norway. but if you go to the doktor for konsultation or need hospital services, then you got a set part of the pay yourself. last year the set part was 164 nkr, and this year it`s 171 nkr. only if needed medikation from a farmacy you also pay a smal prosentage of the kost.. :)
One day the ONU decided to make a research about the famine in the world. They began with a survey in many different countries. The question was:"Wat do you honestly think about the schortage of food in the rest of the world" In Europe they didn´t understand the meaning of the word "shortage" In Africa didn´t now what was food. In Latin America they started a big argument about what could be the word "honestly" In the States, they didn´t have any idea about where could be "the rest of the world"
See...for the foot and finger issue he described, most Americans would most definitely NOT go to the emergency room. We would press lightly on our finger to get the blood flow going, then press a little harder, test light exertion pressure and range of motion, take some Tylenol (aka Paracetamol) or ibuprofen, and monitor while we let the injury rest. Obvious signs of breakage such as excruciating pain on light pressure could be seen by a GP or even a PA here in the US. One issue with socialized medicine is that it is so easy to get care, the health system is overburdened. This leads to fewer referrals to specialists. He had an easy diagnosis with his ankle--he already basically knew what was wrong with it and the physician could easily confirm and justify the surgery to the government. Cancer care might be another story--during the search for a diagnosis phase. It certainly is in the UK.
Well, i'm happily paying the taxes because our rights for example the free hospital. I personally had open hospital for seven years. Because the nurses knew me and my situation very well. Each year i had serious pneumonia and got sick several month in straight each time. One time the helicopter had to wait on the heli-platform for one day because bad weather. Couldn't take the ambulance either because i was in so bad shape. So helicopter and two pilots had to stay there for one whole day. I had also surgery three times in my life. No extra bills. Every country should have this focus on the person and not on the money and every country should have the hospital trough tax system. One of the reasons for Norway can have a free hospital and still beeing cheaper then USA are because of the paperworks, finding out the insurance and extra administrations costs for the private hospitals. But, as long as the biggest companies for hospitals are allways beeing a lobbiest they will never change. When i'm compare USA and Norway i don't feeling there are alot of democracy in United States. Two-party system and the money talks. Nobody really want's Donald Trump either Joe Biden, but only the richest people could be winning the elections or they are forced two chooise between the bad or the worst politician.
In Norway there is a small co-pay when you go home the same day. If you need to stay 12:50 overnight everything is free including board and lodging. This applies for residents citizen or not.
This year I’ve had two cataract operations, and a total hip replacement, including an overnight stay in hospital, free crutches, walking frame, high chair, high stool, and various other bits and pieces plus pain medication and paid absolutely nothing. Free consultations as needed, again free. All on the UK NHS.
He forgot to mention that his taxi trip from the hospital was probably free as well, since his injuries prevented him from driving. You have to apply to get that covered, though, and it could be it only applies to Norwegian citizens. I don't think tourists pay full price, but they may have to pay for non-emergency treatment and medication. I'm not completely sure. What I do know is that there's some complaints about tourists being rescued in the mountains for getting lost, injured or trapped, because that is covered by our taxes. Helicopters, search crew and hospital care can be very expensive, so I get their concern. Private health insurance in Norway is not common. I think that says it all.
For some disgusting reason teeth is not a part of the human body here in Norway. I dont really understand the logic, as I am more incapable of doing my job with a severe tooth ailment than a common disease, but whatever. Thankfully there are ways around this for people with financial issues, but I still find it disturbing that many people opt for a teeth removal instead of a root canal because its cheaper. (Edit; I am complaining that our universal healthcare is not strong enough, not that it does not work. I want more taxes and dental incorporated into universal)
Nothing is perfect and saykng that is not complaining, it’s a general concern. If we never spoke up about what isn’t right and what our health care should do better at, nothing would ever change. The health care we already have has been improved several times is because people have fought for it and haven’t given up in asking for it. If we keep doing that, we might get dental covering some day. We’ve already experienced some politicians listening and understanding our concerns about it, and we might get enough politicians to do the same to the point of it actually becoming a reality if we stand our ground
Up to 18 yrs dental care is free, and onwards up to 20 yrs you pay 25% of dental care. And dentist prices are preset by the government. And regulated annually, so you won't be overcharged. It's not so disgusting after all in Norway.
Norwegian healthcare is good, but in most cases there is a small bill that you pay, things as x-rays, an apointment, psychiatrc treatment etc. However, all those bills are of course registrated to your social sec nr and when you have payed over 300-350-ish dollars, yearly, you have freecard for the rest of the year, and then you dont pay for anything treatment-wise and certain medisins will allso be free of charge until next year.
There is a symbolic co-pay in Norway for about $50. You'll get the bill later or you can pay on-site in machines. If you can't afford it, the Government will pick up the bill.
Hey if you want to experience Norway! we could swap apartments for a couple of weeks im happy to do so. i live in a world heritage fjord in Norway . have a car you can use too. living like an American was one of my best experiences some years ago. and that was Iowa. Anyways could be fun.
ooo... i forgot... when your copay / ( egenandel ) selp pay part is past 3200 nkr. then you are not to pay anny " copay " for the rest of the year.. :) this also inkludes taxi for doktors apointment or hospital apointments. ( if the taxi to the apointment is ordered from the doktors office or the hospital.. :) )
Norwegian health care is mostly free. Emergency treatment is always free, whether accidents or lifethreatening diseases, like cancer or heart conditions. Medication for serious diseases or injuries are given on what is called blue prescriptions and are free. Other medications, consultations or treatments can also be free, after you have reached the minimum bar of around the equivalent of around $300 a year. If not, consultatations to see a doctor is a little less than $30, and a CT scan a little less than $40. There are also a smaller amount to pay for bandages and similar. So health care is not completely free. But in return we get highly qualified doctors and nurses, the best medications and treatments for most diseases, excellent emergency care (ambulances are absolutely free of charge, but ER has the same charges for consultations and accessories like bandages as hospitals and GPs). I have my 2 year check after cancer treatment (surgery and chemo) in the next weeks. First a CT scan that I will be charged 375 Norwegian kroner for (a little less than $40. Then a consultation with my surgeon which will cost me 275 kroner, or a little less than $30. Transportation to and from hospital is also covered (I never bother with it cause I drive myself), but there is an amount covered for the mileage, refunds for bus or train (even plane in some parts of the country, and there is a free taxi service, they fill up the taxi and bring patients to and from appointments. The latter does not always run smoothly. There can be long waits and long journeys, especially when returning from hospital or hospital appointments. When I had chemo I took a taxi at my own expense - amounted to roughly 1000 kroner each time (once a month for six months), 6000 kroner in total - so I wouldn't have to wait for one of the free taxis after the car pool principle. It is a particular taxi firm that has the contract with the regional health authority. I preferred one of their competitors. When I got my chemo medication for home consumption, because the pharmacist maxed out the prescription, saving me from repeated pharmacy visits, I reached the bar for free card at that first visit, making all other medications and consultations directly linked to my cancer free of charge. Not every medication or consultation is on blue prescription or covered by the free card. The six month check ups since have not reached the level of free card, therefore they cost me roughly $70 a time. The only disadvantage with the Norwegian health care system, as I have noticed, is that the state purchasing healt care services from private companies delays treatment. I noticed this when my father got cataracts and needed an operation (laser surgery). The same day he was informed he would get his first operation in six months, at a private eye clinic, I decided to call the same clinic to learn about laser surgery, cause I was wearing glasses, but cautious about eventual side effects. The woman I talked to was more than helpful. She offered me an appointment the next day to speak to a professor and eye surgeon about the topic. She could even guarantee that particular surgeon would do my operation, if I decided I didn't want to wear glasses anymore. At that point I thought to myself: if this professor and surgeon can talk to a possible private client tomorrow, why does my father, who badly needs surgery, have to wait six months for it? The answer gave itself: cause that is the maximum time between diagnosis and treatment the contract permits. And the next thing I asked myself: how many have cataracts surgery done privately to receive treatment quicker? After that I deceided I certainly were not going to risk having eye surgery with that eye clinic, or anybody else. In regard to new medications and treatments, there is a board that approves, or rejects, those. For serious illnesses were extremely expensive medications or treatments can improve or prolong life significantly, it can be frustrating when those are not approved. But when some of these medications are 30-40 000 or more a year, it is also understandable the board will wait until a better price is offered, or the effect of medications or treatments are proven. I do believe more new treatment metodes and medications are available in Norway, than on most health insurances on offer in the U.S.
Some info about our healthcare here in Norway. First of all, nothing is free. We do "pay" for this through our taxes BUT, we don't pay 50-60% like many US right wing videos claims. The average Norwegian household pays around 30% in taxes, still abit high but not to bad. Now, i've had to trips to the hospital the last few years and I had to pay for one of em and the other was free. The one I had to pay for was a day surgery of my hand. This was NOT an emergency and I had to wait almost a year before I got said surgery. I meet up at 7am and went home around 1pm. For that surgery I had to pay roughly 275kr, witch is around 27$ in deductible. For the anesthesia, needles, sewing thread etc that they use. Any medication I needed was bought at the pharmacy and it ended up at around 20$. That was painkiller for 2-3 weeks. Then I had an emergency where I ended up in a ambulance not once but 3 times , at the ER in my hometown and the at the university hospital in OSLO for an emergency operation of my heart "heart attack". The 3 nights at the my local hospital to recuperate with ofc medication, tests, food, drink and so on. This cost me 0.00$. All emergency's like this where u need a ambulance or even a helicopter, is totally free. After the heart attack I need to use several medications every day and this is ofc not completly for free. But after using around 300$ on medications (i usually have used this much in around april/may), my medications is the for free the rest of the year because I the n get a free card. The deductible ceiling for 2023 is NOK 3,040 (300$). Only approved deductibles count towards earning a free card for healthcare services. So, this might give u an idea of how healthcare works in Norway. Sorry for bad grammar. English is my third language ;)
Its definetly a long waiting line, but when you're finaly in the system it speeds up. But you need to be very spesific yourself on what you need. But lets say if you have a heart attack on the top of a montain it automaticaly gets you a chopper and express ticket to oslo central hospital with a full check up. Youll get all your wheelchairs ect from "hjelpemiddelsentralen" crutches you have to pay for, but you get them cheap. You pay 350 usd pr year, any ammount over that you get for free. Doctor visits, therapy, surgery and all that good stuff. Medicine and dentists you pay for yourself.
What he forgot to mention, that taxi trip home would be refundable if he registered an application, and he would get full payment during his time at the hospital and during his recovery period if he was unable to go to work. Now, the fun part, USA spends more money on healthcare (per capita/GDP/etc.) than Norway.
Don’t have any experience whit the Norwegian hectare, I’m Danish but we operate whit kind of the same system, if you brake a leg/arm or so on, you just go to the hospital, they do what they can for you, after treatment you leave bill free, are unlucky so a few years back where diagnosed whit MS, my treatment requires me too go to the hospital 2 times every 6 months, the hospital get me a ride to and home every time i need go, free of charge, I’m glad that I’ve live in a country where I’ve don’t have to worry about the hospital bill
South Koreans go to the doctor for something as small as a cold. It was hard to get used to, but that said they have very high rates of early diagnosis and treatment, so who am I to criticize.
I'm Norwegian. I have a Bulgarian friend who also lives in Norway. Bulgaria is a country in the EU. You have the same rights in the healthcare system there. It is also free to spend the night in the hospitals there. The hospitals are more primitive, i.e. the BUILDING is more outdated, i.e. walls, roof and floor, but hygiene requirements are the same as in Norway, the beds are the same as in Norway, the devices and technology and equipment are as new and as modern as in Norway, so it is not unique to Norway. Furthermore, I would like to claim that there are several Norwegian hospitals that need refurbishment. The last time I spent the night in a hospital I felt like I was in the 1960s, it didn't look like anything had been done to the building since the 1960s, same with many school buildings
yeah I broke my ankle in three places three years ago, this summer I crushed my elbow, and in January I am getting a second surgery on my elbow because it didn't heal right, and I didn't have to pay anything extra. pretty sure whatever I have paid in taxes so far in my life wouldn't have been able to cover those hospital bills if I had any to pay.
Pretty happy happy with our health care system in Norway - I use some meds that costs around $30.000 USD per year. I don't pay that much taxes. My "co-pay" is limited to around $300 USD per year on top of the taxes - if I ever pay more than that, the surplus gets refunded, and I don't pay anything for the rest of the year. A doctor visit typically costs around $20-$25, a checkup with a specialist at the hospital around $35 - all of that goes into the $300 limit.
you are flying from the USA to Croatia (EU) you pay for 7 days of rest in a nice hotel, swim in the sea, visit the dentist, pay for the repair of all your teeth, and it's still cheaper than your neighborhood dentist in the USA
Health care in the US is funded by taxes. And then some of you get the opportunity to fund it some more through private insurance coverage. As for health care coverage in Norway, you don't have to be a citizen, but I believe you have to have legal residency and be part of Folketrygden, simplistically speaking being eligable for our analogue of Social security. Hospital care is generally free at the point of use, with primary care and medications at pharmacies, you pay part of the cost, being capped at about 300 dollars per year.
Even if you get help through paying tax, you have to earn something called a Free Card. It costs NOK 3,000. As soon as you have spent money on a doctor, medicine for NOK 3,000, you get most of it for free. If you have regular medicine, you get what is called a blue prescription and then you get free medicine and have earned the free card, you get the rest for free of the year. The following year, you again have to pay a deductible of NOK 3,000. You can also pay yourself by getting quick medical attention and operations at private clinics. Publicly, you get it for free, but you have to expect to wait for treatments and operations and a doctor.
Thankfully never needed anything significant healthcare wise, the odd prescription, minor treatments. Did once get taken in by ambulance (but only as a precaution). I very much appreciate knowing I have to pay very little whenever I do need any kind of care. Dental can be pretty costly though, which is a shame.
when i heard about health incurrence from my US friends i got super confused, as i had no idea what it was, so i googled it and still got confused XD. i do hope the USA learn from some countries and changes their old systems, as it is sad that people that aren't rich can't get health help or atleest not the one they need, medical products isn't cheap tho, but taxes helps us with that here in Norway, thats why we got high tax and is happy to pay it as we know where it goes, and it goes to a good course, as then it wont be an overload of new diseases spreading around too, also a alot better life to live to those that needs it. also not only Norway have this system, if i remember correctly Sweden and Denmark has it too. might be more too
There is a bill, but it's small, and there's a max cap around 400 USD a year. This doesn't include dental, but if you're poor you get help with that too. Sweden has free dental though, and it's not unlikely we'll get that too, soon..
The great thing is that Antony travels in Europe (Germany, Spain, France.....) and has health insurance there too! This is what Americans call socialism!!
I live in Finland. I got a health problem and I must stay three weeks in Hospital. It was not for free, I got 130 € bill from that three weeks. Not free, but not so expensive either.
Here in Australia we get ambulance insurance, it ranges from about 60 aud for a single pensioner to 227 aud for a family. That's for a year by the way, we are always told if you need an ambulance call one. Your life is more important than a bill for the ambulance.
Yes but in the U.S. that ambulance call could cost you $15,000 and now it is no longer a simple matter of your life is more important because if you call an ambulance and die than your family is on the hook for that 15k.
I wach a video from your brother,and he said he pay 1000 dollars a month in healthincuranse, that is more than I pay in taxes.!!!! I pay 600 dollars in taxes a month, and for that I get free healthcare, free education and even paid dissabillity ( I can`t work) My sallery is not very high, I get about 45.000 dollars a year from the state, but I think I have a way better life since I need the doctors and hospitals pretty often 😄
Injured American, someone asks "Can we call you an ambulance?" IA "Hell no I can still crawl & the hospital is only 3 miles away & when I need to rest I can start a GoFundMe for my hospital costs."
It is not actually free. But it is heavily subsidized through the tax system, and we have to pay a small fee for the treatment, a small deductible. But not if it is an emergency, ambulance and ER treatments is totally free. And it is corerect that there are gapts in the system, that gap is when you need recovering help or mental help. You can really be placed in a shitpot. Just get well really fast is the best recommendation.
this is the best way I can explain my experience with health care in Norway that shocks my American friends. 1. I went into the hospital with a possible appendicitis i talked to probably 8 different doctors, had many tests done, had an MRI, and had an ultrasound. I spent the night in the hospital and did another MRI and ultrasound. got a diagnosis and some medication, I was sent home and it cost me nothing. 2. I went to buy my EpiPen after being diagnosed with a very severe allergy. I got to the pharmacy and told them I was getting my prescription for an EpiPen and some allergy meds. I got a demonstration of how to use the EpiPen and it cost me nothing. 3. I dislocated my knee right after Christmas, all roads were covered in ice and snow so I didn't want to walk to the bus and take the bus to the hospital, so I called the ambulance and got to the hospital. I got X-rays they put my knee into place and I got a second round of X-rays to make sure nothing was wrong with my knee. I got crutches and was told to use them for the next couple of days. i went home and it didn't cost me anything
Yes in (most) of Europe, when going to the hospital there's never mention of money and you never see a bill, they just initially check your ID and that you're covered. You just get what you need. I've never had to pay a deductible, I didn't even know what that was until I visited the USA. And for example insulin here costs a few dollars a vial (which i hear can cost hundreds in the US). Treatment has been fast too, it's a myth that the US system is 'faster'. The tragedy is that Americans accept their terrible healthcare system, when every other developed country (and most others too) have government administered healthcare that's free or very cheap. Why do you put up with it?
If there is one thing norwegians normally dont complain about, its our income taxes. We pay, because we know that if we are going til we are 100 yrs, somewhere along the way we might come in a situation where we will need longterm healthcare. If not us, maybe our kids, spouse, grandparents, yes whoever. And we dont mind that it pays for others too. If we are very lucky, we hopefully will never need it. Because others paid for mine. I dont get americans, atleast those who thinks/says that they are not interessted in paying for others, they dont bealive in solidarity... but isnt that exactly what they are doing by paying for their insuarances? You pay every month, so you have it JUST IN CASE you might need it in future, if you are lucky you might never need it. They are not putting in a box with you name on it, it all goes in one big "bag" and is used for payout for other peoples hospital bills. That insuarance doesnt even pay 100%, you may need to pay something out of your pocket I had a three weeks stay in hospital back in 2022, because of brain bleed, I went through multiple CT scans, with and without contrast, multiple ambulance-rides, one air ambulance ride (helicopter with onboard doctor), pain medication incl opoiods, food and bed for all those weeks. An american commenter told commented that it would have cost me aroung $100.000, if not more..... we paid $10 for parking. I had to recover at home for months, with government paying salary, Healthcare didnt bankrupt me, recovery didnt bankrupt me. What paid for all this? Mine and other norwegians income taxes.
Its this, in Nordic countrys, your healt insurance is included in your taxes, and your pension fund, and your education/your childrens education! And a lot of things that is higly subsidicesed, like kindergarten/public transportation and even dental care! In USA the taxes need to be low, becuse people need to buy expensive insurance, save money for there childrens education, and on top of that have a lot of money if they if they get sick, to pay for ambulance and medical care! The caveat is that US pays double up for this necessary things.. those that can afford it! The rest isnt coverd at all or to a minor extens! In anyway in USA people rather trust a private insurance board, to tell wich medical treament one need, in Nordic countrys we rather trust our doctors to make this decision!
As a Norwegian I may have had better (individual, case by case) experciences with Spanish healthcare in the few cases when I've actually, really needed them. I have Norwegian-French relatives, and they seem to have mostly good to very impressive experiences. And how our Norwegian healthcare system works is analyzed and critized almost down to the atomic level if it's an issue in an election year. Picked apart in munute details almost, from the far left to far right political spectrum. I was adimtted to a Norwegian hospital, small town of approx. 40 000 about a year ago for a "small tumor, let's investigate what it is" kind of thing. One year later I'm a shadow of my former self. It was hell at times. Cancer treatment really can be. Still grateful it was a Norwegian hospital, though. That tumor turned out to be big, freaking deal. There have been things I've been very frustrated about sometimes along the away. But I'm alive. There's hope. Yeah, I'm the first to critize things like lack of coordination countrywise, county wise of even at times municipality wise. But on the whole, it's a 1st world, very well developed system that won't throw you out on the street in a hospital gown. Not great innovation wise? Well, it's actually not at bad for the population. Teamed up with the Danes and Swedes (just as an example) it seems to get even better. I'm glad this guy had positive experinces, although this seems idealized a bit. But yeah, in the bigger picture sense, it's very, very far from the socialistic h*llhole the US right portrays is to be.
The story of treatment taking so much time in Europa and other places with universal healthcare is mainly propaganda by those trying to deny similar services to those living in the US.
Every country should focus on their civil development and not their military development… Atleast not almost prioritize military development over civil development… I feel like if America didnt spend 877 billion USD on their military, but instead put some of that into schools, healthcare etc… America could become a better country… And still have the best military… (And cool toys 😂)
Maybe but they are the only country policing our oceans right now. I think China would be a lot more bold if it wasn't for the United States. Also South Korea would be North Korea if it wasn't for the U.S. troops stationed there; my wife is South Korean and Koreans freely admit this. While I would be the first one to say the U.S. doesn't do anything for humanitarian and noble reasons their military might is still of great benefit to many of us. This is coming from a Canadian who is quite critical of the country.
If you complain about the American health care, make sure you vote Democrat. There is no good explanation to why women, Blacks or ordinary workers with a salary of less than $ 100 000 would vote for Republicans. Very strange that so many will vote against their interests.
We are EQUAL so why should the CEO get better healthcare than the mcdonald's cashier. we should be treaded and not have to stress over how to pay for it. it's not free its free use. and taxes pays it. Being Danish just makes me smile know we can take care of each others just like our good neighbor Norway.
That equal thing is a bit of a crap shoot though. I lived in Norway for two years and it is not uncommon for a Norwegian employer to hire an underqualified Norwegian over a more qualified immigrant; this is an immigrant that speaks the language fluently. My own father, who was hired as a consultant, had graduates fresh out of university that didn't want to listen to him because he was a foreigner; he had 30 years experience at that time from working in places like Canada, U.S., Malaysia, China and Saudi Arabia. When Norwegians talk about equality I take it with a grain of salt. That said I would be curious to know how Denmark is in comparison.
Its also cost free to give birth all included even ambulanse if needed, amazing right ? kinda should be since you are helping the society by having kids.
This is basically how healthcare works in every developed country except the US.
That's pretty much true. I'm Norwegian and I know Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Great Britain, Spain etc all have awesome healthcare. Some even better than ours.
Yes, by legalized theft.
Something tells me that you did not do well in school.. @@UA-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too
@@Hainderre If you can't reach the ball go for the man.
@@UA-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too I'm sorry to see the special ed class didn't work for you 🥲
A quick story about Norwegians paying taxes. When my first born son was born with a serious health problem, we were flown by ambulance plane to the best surgeons in Norway. He stayed in hospital for 3 weeks recovering. Me and my wife were also flown to the hospital, we stayed in a hospital hotel for the entire 3 weeks. There was a nurse watching over my son, exclusively, for the first week. 3 shifts per day/night. After 3 weeks, we were sent home, and a specialist visited us at home to teach us how to continue the required training. For the next two years, all three of us flew to the hospital monthly so that the doctors could follow up on us. This cost us zero. So yeah, I'll pay my taxes happily for the rest of my life.
Beeing norwegian with luncancer stage four for eigth years. My treatment cost more than 100k us dollars per year. I only pay 300 dollars per year for that. Beat that! Yes, I am not complaining paying taxes…
I'm so glad you get the health care you need. It seems to work really well for you, too! 👍Life must be difficult enough with a diagnosis like that, and dealing with financial struggles and filling out endless paperwork on top of that is the LAST thing you need. God jul! 🎄🤶
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I'm a Norw. citicen. This happened to me a few years back: I had a rather serious bike accident. I was found unconscious in the street. Someone called our local 9-1-1. They sent an ambulance, that took me to the emergency room at a nearby hospital. They stabilized me and ran several initial tests, including CT scans of my head & neck. The next morning they sent me to the trauma centre of a different hospital. They kept me there for 2 days, running a lot more tests, more X-rays & CT scans, eye doctors checking my eyesight, etc. Luckily, there was nothing serious in the matter with me, so I was released. So, half a day at an emergency room, two days at a trauma center, two ambulance rides. And a week later I received their bill in the mail. It was $9. For some special bandages that for some reason was not included. I thought to myself: why did they even bother sending the bill. It probably brought them no more than 3-4 times more than what they had to pay for postage just sending me the envelope....
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The most crazy thing about the american healtcare system - is that US is spending most money i the world on healthcare per capita. Norway is in third place. So the question is - where is the money going? 😅
The money goes to the shareholders in big pharma and insurance
It goes to huge amount of inefficient administration. US spends vastly more cash on welfare administration, as everything needs to be checks on what is included in insurance, which hospitals are covered etc. Add on that the wasted money on insurance and the fact that people put off going to the hospital or doctor, worsening their condition before finally getting treatment.
@@espetor Norway isn't like the United States. It is a country that has very little corruption. That said you seem to be Norwegian so would love to hear why you think that.
In Finland we do need to pay something, but it is heavily subsidized by the governement, a regular doctors checkup to, for example get a doctors note that you're sick and need to stay home from work is like 30€
We pay like 25-30 for a checkup. To get a sick leave or a recite for some medicine is 10-15 I think. (If you call in later and don’t get it when you have an appointment already)
@@mari97216Guess it depends, last few times I had to get a doctors notice I had to go in for a checkup, only if seeing a nurse is enough have I payed 10-15
I had my apendix taken out:
- Woke up crying like a small child due to abdominal pain, called doctor's office as soon as they opened
- "Please come see us now", took a taxi, GP called for an ambulance after a quick check
- Got admitted, took some tests, waited for a surgery room to become available, and were given nap juice
- Woke up to learn they had to actually cut me open due to complications
- Stayed an extra week or so for observation/recovery, lots of meds and IV fluids/glucose/morphine throughout
- Took a taxi home, govt payed me back for both taxi trips, and my salary for the hospital stay and an extra two weeks of home recovery
- No bill
If you are admitted to hospital there is no bill. Not only that - there are no papers involved at all. Not before you go in or when you leave. No waivers to sign of stuff like that.
The only paper you may get is a notice to give to your employer that you have been sick and that you need to stay away from work for X more days Last year when I was admitted to hospital I did not even get that (it arrived in the mail a few days later). Also I was told I needed prescription antibiotics - but those prescriptions are digital - so again no paper. You just go to a pharmacy and give them your ID number and the meds will show up on your file.
On the day I left (after staying for 6 days) I was simply told in the morning that you can leave today. Get dressed (in your regular clothes) and let the desk know when you are on your way out. And that is what I did.
Taxes are about investing in one's own country and people, and oneself and one's own. With health services that everyone can participate in, we largely get people back to work and their normal lives in a good way. We have little room to lose labor here in Norway. We need everyone.
If Norwegians travel to the USA, we use Norwegian travel insurance, because it covers most things, such as illness, personal injury, damage to other people's property and much more! We pay only 58 dollars for this and then we can be in the USA for 90 days!
we pay around 30$ pr visit, untill max pay 300$ then you get free care.
Interesting. In Canada we pay nothing except for things not covered under the health care umbrella (i.e. employment related forms and such). By the way not arguing that one is better than the other, just pointing out a difference.
In the nordic countries you get this kind of healthcare without having to pay a significant amount for the care. And, just as important, you still get your regular pay check even if you are not at work. And you can not be fired for not showing up at work due to the treatment and recovery (within certain time limits).
They have to keep you employed for a year. After that year the government have to pay your paycheck instead of the workplace. And at that time they can also find someone else for your position. But at least you wpnt be without money every month
@@adm7998 Isn't an employer only responsible for paying for the first few days if an employee is on a sick leave for a longer period (up to 12 months)? And after 12 months sick, the employee has to be evaluated for his/her capacity to work in general? And after another year or so, the employe that is permanently unable to work is dependant on the state "safety network" that will provide for a minimum payment to survive with some dignity intact
@@nixxonnor could be bro. My example is kind of getting some years old
I love norwegian healthcare because I spent 3 weeks in hospital after a lung surgery last year recovering from a pneumothorax, xrays every other day until I finally got cleared. All for free, no paperwork, no nothing. They'll keep you in the hospital longer than necessary just to be sure.
Yes, I have has 2 brain strokes, and stayed in hospital for a month. Cat scan, mr, all for free. Then rehabilitation for two months for free. Pay my taxes with a smile.
@@hyp77 I hope you get to live a healthy life!
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The healthcare is amazing, but like this man said, it is not perfect. When you are admitted to a hospital, you don't pay anything, for anything. When you are not admitted, but there for a checkup, or at your GP, there is a copay of about $25-30. When your copay adds up to $300, you get a health free card. No more copay the rest of that year.
Yep, this year I was incredibly sick, several trips to the doctor / hospital, and I ended up with a free card before the end of it ^^
I have a friend here in the UK earlier this yr her son collapsed walking in the garden ambulance arrived rushed to A & E. At Ten yrs old found to have a genetic bone issue that caused his hip to dislocate specialist surgery followed no weight bearing for at least 8 mths so hes in a wheelchair & told requires major surgery not until he's at least 16 yrs old hoping bone growth stabilizes his condition.So social & health services now involved ramps to the house fitted physio comes once a week his school provides specialist transport for him to school & home & ambulance pick him up & takes him to hospital appointments the cost zero! you cant put a price on peoples health & welfare, how much would this cost in the USA for all these services for the next several yrs the system may not be perfect in the UK but thank god we have it.
He is speaking the truth.im a proud norwegian myself and have hade need of several visits to hospital and its pretty much almost free of charge each time
You don't have to be a citizen to get healthcare "for free". If a foreigner has a valid permit to stay, he is covered. Not only in Norway, but in the entire EU. In Denmark you will also get "sick-day-payment" so you can handle your bills while recovering. I am not sure how that works in Norway.
In Norway you don't lose a dime if you're sick. The employer has to cover the first two weeks, and after that the government takes over financial responsibility. It's a good incentive for the employer to have a decent work environment that doesn't make people sick or injured.
It’s the same in Sweden ! I got a heart surgery in 2012 and was hospitalized for a week. It cost me $70!
I live in Norway and have experienced the ER guilt tripping me with "having to use the tax payers money" on me to get me certain help so it's by no means perfect. But with every qualms I have with this system I think about how it's amongst the best in the world and then my heart goes out to people who's in the same situation like me but live in another country
I've had some issues with the ER here too (Bergen). Some are very rude (and expect no apology when they realise they were wrong). Our system is far from flawless, but it is as of now better than the American alternative. You just have to be a bit stubborn when the "I have a bad day and will take it out on you" doctors are there. I've had some ridiculous experiences with them, but they've also saved my life.
@@ThundrGurl I think we all have bad days when we're understaffed and overworked. There's a lot of that in the ERs around the country in Norway. Especially during winter time, with a whole lot of broken bones from people falling on the ice, and skiing accidents during the Easter break. I have watched ER nurses literally run to get things done quickly enough. The thing is: If there's ever a time in our lives when we REALLY don't need to be snapped at, it's when we're sick or injured enough to seek emergency health care.
@@Kari.F. exactly 💯 ! We can all empathize with a difficult work day. And for the most part, the system works. 70% of the times I've been there, they've taken my injuries more seriously than I did. Other times: I got told to get my behind out of there, because the ER was meant for sick people, and without examining me, they could tell I wasn't. Turns out I have a heart condition (I think my young age was the only reason they didn't believe me) .... Instead of going home I took a taxi to another ER and was put in a hospital bed for a few days. But no apology, the ER doc doubled down on his decision and still to this day believe he did everything right... But I think those kind of experiences aren't unique to Norway.
@@ThundrGurl Oh, yeah. We have our fair share of all the bad kinds of people here, too!
@@ThundrGurl I think this is just a people issue, and can be found anywhere. When I was younger I broke my foot and fractured my ankle in the U.S. With a swelled up foot, thankfully not my driving foot, I decided to try and make the drive back to Canada. As fate would have it my car broke down in Oregon trapping me there. Thankfully in Oregon they have to give care to everyone regardless of their status, so I had the doctor splint up my foot. When I asked him what was wrong with my foot he told me, "You don't need to know, you only need to know I am fixing it." They wouldn't give me crutches till I demanded them. In Canada the doctor cast my foot and than sat down with me and went over the x-ray.
This is a people issue, not a system issue, as there are good and bad people skill doctors everywhere. That said that service in the U.S. cost me about $600 while my service in Canada was "free".
Norwegian is not the only with good healthcare, lot of countries are a "paradise" in comparsion to the USA
There is usually a small copayment if you go to the emergency room, but it's about $20-40 depending on if you come daytime or night.
When I went to the emergency room I had to pay $35 for the service and $45 for a brace for my fracture .
As an Norwegian, I am quite sas the hospital did not tell him, that hes taxi home also was free. He should not pay that....
It depends on the location he lives in etc.
As a swede I feel sorry for the people of the US who don´t have what we have. Our health insurance is covered from tax money and it is the same for evrybody. Evryone can afford it. Therefore it is strange to me that the richest country in the whole world EVER can notprovide the same for all of you. If we here in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe can do it, so can you!
Put harder pressure on your politicians and demand the same system as we have here!
I´m a psychiatric nurse/cognitiv therapist. In Norway, in my county, everyone who needs it get free psychotherapy for depression and anxiety. It´s paid for by the government and the local authority (basicly the tax payers). We offer up to to 7 or 12 sessions at no cost for the patient.
For me as a Swede, this is just how healthcare works, and as soon as we talk about anything that frighten us with the US, it's the fact that you guys have to pay for it (ofc there'r other things too, but this is the most unbelievable thing to us).
So - just let me put it the other way around: what is the worst condition you've been neglecting due to the fear of the price or thoughts of "is it worth the cost"?
Ofc I've also neglected things, but that's more like "is this serious enough to spend half a day at the ER?". Or if not an emergency, like my shoulder that's been hurting for half a year - "Will it heal by it self? if not, will they even find what's wrong, or will they just send me back home with some painkillers? And if they don't, for how long will I have to wait to see someone who actually knows what to do about it?" bc I have to say, here in Sweden (can't speak for Norway) having to wait to see a specialist is truly an issue.
I am suffering from a disability that is affecting my muscles and all the support items are free, when you need it. I have an electric operated resting chair that can lift me, an elevated toilet seat and crutches, and all of them are free. I well probably get an electric lift for my outside entrance because I have trouble getting up and down stairs, and that is also free of charge. As soon as my doctors declared that I had become disabled, I could just call a number and all this items will show up in a day or two. No charges AT ALL.
Lol what a small world! I attended lectures on universal design and innovation by this guy at a university in Oslo just last year
It sounds like Norway is very similar to Denmark healthcare and in the same time we feel a responsible to the society, government and each other
As an example: when Covid 19 in 2020 was a it's peak and before there was a vaccine, the government and the healthcare personnel had to point out that if you needed a doctor - then go to the doctor because most people wanted to give room and resources to Covid19 patients so they would wait to see if it was very serious or it would go over by itself
But it was pointed out that our healthcare system is still for all and not just for Covid19 patients
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this is just when your injury is work related in Norway. but if you go to the doktor for konsultation or need hospital services, then you got a set part of the pay yourself. last year the set part was 164 nkr, and this year it`s 171 nkr. only if needed medikation from a farmacy you also pay a smal prosentage of the kost.. :)
One day the ONU decided to make a research about the famine in the world. They began with a survey in many different countries. The question was:"Wat do you honestly think about the schortage of food in the rest of the world"
In Europe they didn´t understand the meaning of the word "shortage"
In Africa didn´t now what was food.
In Latin America they started a big argument about what could be the word "honestly"
In the States, they didn´t have any idea about where could be "the rest of the world"
See...for the foot and finger issue he described, most Americans would most definitely NOT go to the emergency room. We would press lightly on our finger to get the blood flow going, then press a little harder, test light exertion pressure and range of motion, take some Tylenol (aka Paracetamol) or ibuprofen, and monitor while we let the injury rest. Obvious signs of breakage such as excruciating pain on light pressure could be seen by a GP or even a PA here in the US.
One issue with socialized medicine is that it is so easy to get care, the health system is overburdened. This leads to fewer referrals to specialists. He had an easy diagnosis with his ankle--he already basically knew what was wrong with it and the physician could easily confirm and justify the surgery to the government. Cancer care might be another story--during the search for a diagnosis phase. It certainly is in the UK.
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Well, i'm happily paying the taxes because our rights for example the free hospital.
I personally had open hospital for seven years. Because the nurses knew me and my situation very well. Each year i had serious pneumonia and got sick several month in straight each time.
One time the helicopter had to wait on the heli-platform for one day because bad weather. Couldn't take the ambulance either because i was in so bad shape. So helicopter and two pilots had to stay there for one whole day.
I had also surgery three times in my life.
No extra bills. Every country should have this focus on the person and not on the money and every country should have the hospital trough tax system.
One of the reasons for Norway can have a free hospital and still beeing cheaper then USA are because of the paperworks, finding out the insurance and extra administrations costs for the private hospitals.
But, as long as the biggest companies for hospitals are allways beeing a lobbiest they will never change.
When i'm compare USA and Norway i don't feeling there are alot of democracy in United States. Two-party system and the money talks.
Nobody really want's Donald Trump either Joe Biden, but only the richest people could be winning the elections or they are forced two chooise between the bad or the worst politician.
In Norway there is a small co-pay when you go home the same day. If you need to stay 12:50 overnight everything is free including board and lodging. This applies for residents citizen or not.
This year I’ve had two cataract operations, and a total hip replacement, including an overnight stay in hospital, free crutches, walking frame, high chair, high stool, and various other bits and pieces plus pain medication and paid absolutely nothing. Free consultations as needed, again free. All on the UK NHS.
As long as you are in Norway, regardless of your nationality, you will get the exact same free healthcare as everybody else....
He forgot to mention that his taxi trip from the hospital was probably free as well, since his injuries prevented him from driving. You have to apply to get that covered, though, and it could be it only applies to Norwegian citizens.
I don't think tourists pay full price, but they may have to pay for non-emergency treatment and medication. I'm not completely sure. What I do know is that there's some complaints about tourists being rescued in the mountains for getting lost, injured or trapped, because that is covered by our taxes. Helicopters, search crew and hospital care can be very expensive, so I get their concern.
Private health insurance in Norway is not common. I think that says it all.
For some disgusting reason teeth is not a part of the human body here in Norway. I dont really understand the logic, as I am more incapable of doing my job with a severe tooth ailment than a common disease, but whatever. Thankfully there are ways around this for people with financial issues, but I still find it disturbing that many people opt for a teeth removal instead of a root canal because its cheaper. (Edit; I am complaining that our universal healthcare is not strong enough, not that it does not work. I want more taxes and dental incorporated into universal)
Nothing is perfect and saykng that is not complaining, it’s a general concern. If we never spoke up about what isn’t right and what our health care should do better at, nothing would ever change. The health care we already have has been improved several times is because people have fought for it and haven’t given up in asking for it. If we keep doing that, we might get dental covering some day. We’ve already experienced some politicians listening and understanding our concerns about it, and we might get enough politicians to do the same to the point of it actually becoming a reality if we stand our ground
that shit bothers me aswell. its just stupid. "fix yer teeth before you leave groundschool, after that its gonna cost a ton" makes no sence
Up to 18 yrs dental care is free, and onwards up to 20 yrs you pay 25% of dental care. And dentist prices are preset by the government. And regulated annually, so you won't be overcharged. It's not so disgusting after all in Norway.
Same in Australia, I have no idea why, detal care isn't considerd heath care
Same in sweden and I can't unerstand why neither 😖
Norwegian healthcare is good, but in most cases there is a small bill that you pay, things as x-rays, an apointment, psychiatrc treatment etc. However, all those bills are of course registrated to your social sec nr and when you have payed over 300-350-ish dollars, yearly, you have freecard for the rest of the year, and then you dont pay for anything treatment-wise and certain medisins will allso be free of charge until next year.
There is a symbolic co-pay in Norway for about $50. You'll get the bill later or you can pay on-site in machines.
If you can't afford it, the Government will pick up the bill.
Depends on what. I recently gave birth, there's no co-pay on that at least.
Hey if you want to experience Norway! we could swap apartments for a couple of weeks im happy to do so. i live in a world heritage fjord in Norway
. have a car you can use too. living like an American was one of my best experiences some years ago. and that was Iowa. Anyways could be fun.
ooo... i forgot... when your copay / ( egenandel ) selp pay part is past 3200 nkr. then you are not to pay anny " copay " for the rest of the year.. :) this also inkludes taxi for doktors apointment or hospital apointments. ( if the taxi to the apointment is ordered from the doktors office or the hospital.. :) )
Norwegian health care is mostly free. Emergency treatment is always free, whether accidents or lifethreatening diseases, like cancer or heart conditions. Medication for serious diseases or injuries are given on what is called blue prescriptions and are free. Other medications, consultations or treatments can also be free, after you have reached the minimum bar of around the equivalent of around $300 a year. If not, consultatations to see a doctor is a little less than $30, and a CT scan a little less than $40. There are also a smaller amount to pay for bandages and similar. So health care is not completely free. But in return we get highly qualified doctors and nurses, the best medications and treatments for most diseases, excellent emergency care (ambulances are absolutely free of charge, but ER has the same charges for consultations and accessories like bandages as hospitals and GPs).
I have my 2 year check after cancer treatment (surgery and chemo) in the next weeks. First a CT scan that I will be charged 375 Norwegian kroner for (a little less than $40. Then a consultation with my surgeon which will cost me 275 kroner, or a little less than $30. Transportation to and from hospital is also covered (I never bother with it cause I drive myself), but there is an amount covered for the mileage, refunds for bus or train (even plane in some parts of the country, and there is a free taxi service, they fill up the taxi and bring patients to and from appointments. The latter does not always run smoothly. There can be long waits and long journeys, especially when returning from hospital or hospital appointments. When I had chemo I took a taxi at my own expense - amounted to roughly 1000 kroner each time (once a month for six months), 6000 kroner in total - so I wouldn't have to wait for one of the free taxis after the car pool principle. It is a particular taxi firm that has the contract with the regional health authority. I preferred one of their competitors.
When I got my chemo medication for home consumption, because the pharmacist maxed out the prescription, saving me from repeated pharmacy visits, I reached the bar for free card at that first visit, making all other medications and consultations directly linked to my cancer free of charge. Not every medication or consultation is on blue prescription or covered by the free card.
The six month check ups since have not reached the level of free card, therefore they cost me roughly $70 a time.
The only disadvantage with the Norwegian health care system, as I have noticed, is that the state purchasing healt care services from private companies delays treatment. I noticed this when my father got cataracts and needed an operation (laser surgery). The same day he was informed he would get his first operation in six months, at a private eye clinic, I decided to call the same clinic to learn about laser surgery, cause I was wearing glasses, but cautious about eventual side effects.
The woman I talked to was more than helpful. She offered me an appointment the next day to speak to a professor and eye surgeon about the topic. She could even guarantee that particular surgeon would do my operation, if I decided I didn't want to wear glasses anymore. At that point I thought to myself: if this professor and surgeon can talk to a possible private client tomorrow, why does my father, who badly needs surgery, have to wait six months for it? The answer gave itself: cause that is the maximum time between diagnosis and treatment the contract permits. And the next thing I asked myself: how many have cataracts surgery done privately to receive treatment quicker? After that I deceided I certainly were not going to risk having eye surgery with that eye clinic, or anybody else.
In regard to new medications and treatments, there is a board that approves, or rejects, those. For serious illnesses were extremely expensive medications or treatments can improve or prolong life significantly, it can be frustrating when those are not approved. But when some of these medications are 30-40 000 or more a year, it is also understandable the board will wait until a better price is offered, or the effect of medications or treatments are proven.
I do believe more new treatment metodes and medications are available in Norway, than on most health insurances on offer in the U.S.
Some info about our healthcare here in Norway.
First of all, nothing is free. We do "pay" for this through our taxes BUT, we don't pay 50-60% like many US right wing videos claims. The average Norwegian household pays around 30% in taxes, still abit high but not to bad.
Now, i've had to trips to the hospital the last few years and I had to pay for one of em and the other was free.
The one I had to pay for was a day surgery of my hand. This was NOT an emergency and I had to wait almost a year before I got said surgery. I meet up at 7am and went home around 1pm. For that surgery I had to pay roughly 275kr, witch is around 27$ in deductible. For the anesthesia, needles, sewing thread etc that they use. Any medication I needed was bought at the pharmacy and it ended up at around 20$. That was painkiller for 2-3 weeks.
Then I had an emergency where I ended up in a ambulance not once but 3 times , at the ER in my hometown and the at the university hospital in OSLO for an emergency operation of my heart "heart attack". The 3 nights at the my local hospital to recuperate with ofc medication, tests, food, drink and so on. This cost me 0.00$. All emergency's like this where u need a ambulance or even a helicopter, is totally free. After the heart attack I need to use several medications every day and this is ofc not completly for free. But after using around 300$ on medications (i usually have used this much in around april/may), my medications is the for free the rest of the year because I the n get a free card. The deductible ceiling for 2023 is NOK 3,040 (300$). Only approved deductibles count towards earning a free card for healthcare services.
So, this might give u an idea of how healthcare works in Norway.
Sorry for bad grammar. English is my third language ;)
If more politicians in the US were like Bernie Sanders, it would have been better. 😀 Greetings from Norway.
I have three chronic diseases, and besides my taxes i pay about 200 USD a year for medication/doctor visits etc. That's Norway😊
Its definetly a long waiting line, but when you're finaly in the system it speeds up. But you need to be very spesific yourself on what you need.
But lets say if you have a heart attack on the top of a montain it automaticaly gets you a chopper and express ticket to oslo central hospital with a full check up.
Youll get all your wheelchairs ect from "hjelpemiddelsentralen" crutches you have to pay for, but you get them cheap.
You pay 350 usd pr year, any ammount over that you get for free. Doctor visits, therapy, surgery and all that good stuff.
Medicine and dentists you pay for yourself.
What he forgot to mention, that taxi trip home would be refundable if he registered an application, and he would get full payment during his time at the hospital and during his recovery period if he was unable to go to work.
Now, the fun part, USA spends more money on healthcare (per capita/GDP/etc.) than Norway.
Don’t have any experience whit the Norwegian hectare, I’m Danish but we operate whit kind of the same system, if you brake a leg/arm or so on, you just go to the hospital, they do what they can for you, after treatment you leave bill free, are unlucky so a few years back where diagnosed whit MS, my treatment requires me too go to the hospital 2 times every 6 months, the hospital get me a ride to and home every time i need go, free of charge, I’m glad that I’ve live in a country where I’ve don’t have to worry about the hospital bill
Most Norwegians don't rush to ER for small stuff. They don't want to come off as hypocondriacs
Aye, that's worse than death!
South Koreans go to the doctor for something as small as a cold. It was hard to get used to, but that said they have very high rates of early diagnosis and treatment, so who am I to criticize.
I'm Norwegian. I have a Bulgarian friend who also lives in Norway. Bulgaria is a country in the EU. You have the same rights in the healthcare system there. It is also free to spend the night in the hospitals there. The hospitals are more primitive, i.e. the BUILDING is more outdated, i.e. walls, roof and floor, but hygiene requirements are the same as in Norway, the beds are the same as in Norway, the devices and technology and equipment are as new and as modern as in Norway, so it is not unique to Norway. Furthermore, I would like to claim that there are several Norwegian hospitals that need refurbishment. The last time I spent the night in a hospital I felt like I was in the 1960s, it didn't look like anything had been done to the building since the 1960s, same with many school buildings
My friend Diane need to consule her accuranze witch medecine to use. We trust our doc!❤
yeah I broke my ankle in three places three years ago, this summer I crushed my elbow, and in January I am getting a second surgery on my elbow because it didn't heal right, and I didn't have to pay anything extra. pretty sure whatever I have paid in taxes so far in my life wouldn't have been able to cover those hospital bills if I had any to pay.
Pretty happy happy with our health care system in Norway - I use some meds that costs around $30.000 USD per year. I don't pay that much taxes. My "co-pay" is limited to around $300 USD per year on top of the taxes - if I ever pay more than that, the surplus gets refunded, and I don't pay anything for the rest of the year. A doctor visit typically costs around $20-$25, a checkup with a specialist at the hospital around $35 - all of that goes into the $300 limit.
you are flying from the USA to Croatia (EU)
you pay for 7 days of rest in a nice hotel, swim in the sea, visit the dentist,
pay for the repair of all your teeth,
and it's still cheaper than your neighborhood dentist in the USA
Health care in the US is funded by taxes. And then some of you get the opportunity to fund it some more through private insurance coverage.
As for health care coverage in Norway, you don't have to be a citizen, but I believe you have to have legal residency and be part of Folketrygden, simplistically speaking being eligable for our analogue of Social security.
Hospital care is generally free at the point of use, with primary care and medications at pharmacies, you pay part of the cost, being capped at about 300 dollars per year.
Even if you get help through paying tax, you have to earn something called a Free Card. It costs NOK 3,000. As soon as you have spent money on a doctor, medicine for NOK 3,000, you get most of it for free. If you have regular medicine, you get what is called a blue prescription and then you get free medicine and have earned the free card, you get the rest for free of the year. The following year, you again have to pay a deductible of NOK 3,000. You can also pay yourself by getting quick medical attention and operations at private clinics. Publicly, you get it for free, but you have to expect to wait for treatments and operations and a doctor.
Thankfully never needed anything significant healthcare wise, the odd prescription, minor treatments. Did once get taken in by ambulance (but only as a precaution). I very much appreciate knowing I have to pay very little whenever I do need any kind of care. Dental can be pretty costly though, which is a shame.
Go to the ER because he tied his shoes too tight is kinda crazy 🤣🤣🤣
It’s not strange he got a reaction 😂
Made me laugh.
when i heard about health incurrence from my US friends i got super confused, as i had no idea what it was, so i googled it and still got confused XD. i do hope the USA learn from some countries and changes their old systems, as it is sad that people that aren't rich can't get health help or atleest not the one they need, medical products isn't cheap tho, but taxes helps us with that here in Norway, thats why we got high tax and is happy to pay it as we know where it goes, and it goes to a good course, as then it wont be an overload of new diseases spreading around too, also a alot better life to live to those that needs it. also not only Norway have this system, if i remember correctly Sweden and Denmark has it too. might be more too
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There is a bill, but it's small, and there's a max cap around 400 USD a year.
This doesn't include dental, but if you're poor you get help with that too.
Sweden has free dental though, and it's not unlikely we'll get that too, soon..
Isn’t it 300-350 a year?
We DO pay for the ER. Usually about $ 20 - 30.
The great thing is that Antony travels in Europe (Germany, Spain, France.....) and has health insurance there too!
This is what Americans call socialism!!
I live in Finland. I got a health problem and I must stay three weeks in Hospital. It was not for free, I got 130 € bill from that three weeks.
Not free, but not so expensive either.
Here in Australia we get ambulance insurance, it ranges from about 60 aud for a single pensioner to 227 aud for a family. That's for a year by the way, we are always told if you need an ambulance call one. Your life is more important than a bill for the ambulance.
Yes but in the U.S. that ambulance call could cost you $15,000 and now it is no longer a simple matter of your life is more important because if you call an ambulance and die than your family is on the hook for that 15k.
Twins, 5 weeks in hospital. Bill: approx € 25
I wach a video from your brother,and he said he pay 1000 dollars a month in healthincuranse, that is more than I pay in taxes.!!!! I pay 600 dollars in taxes a month, and for that I get free healthcare, free education and even paid dissabillity ( I can`t work) My sallery is not very high, I get about 45.000 dollars a year from the state, but I think I have a way better life since I need the doctors and hospitals pretty often 😄
Injured American, someone asks "Can we call you an ambulance?" IA "Hell no I can still crawl & the hospital is only 3 miles away & when I need to rest I can start a GoFundMe for my hospital costs."
Can you do in the next video Norwegian Christmas songs please ❤
It is not actually free. But it is heavily subsidized through the tax system, and we have to pay a small fee for the treatment, a small deductible. But not if it is an emergency, ambulance and ER treatments is totally free. And it is corerect that there are gapts in the system, that gap is when you need recovering help or mental help. You can really be placed in a shitpot. Just get well really fast is the best recommendation.
And they give you money for the bus when you're leaving. If you can't go by bus, they pay for a taxi.
this is the best way I can explain my experience with health care in Norway that shocks my American friends.
1. I went into the hospital with a possible appendicitis i talked to probably 8 different doctors, had many tests done, had an MRI, and had an ultrasound. I spent the night in the hospital and did another MRI and ultrasound. got a diagnosis and some medication, I was sent home and it cost me nothing.
2. I went to buy my EpiPen after being diagnosed with a very severe allergy. I got to the pharmacy and told them I was getting my prescription for an EpiPen and some allergy meds. I got a demonstration of how to use the EpiPen and it cost me nothing.
3. I dislocated my knee right after Christmas, all roads were covered in ice and snow so I didn't want to walk to the bus and take the bus to the hospital, so I called the ambulance and got to the hospital. I got X-rays they put my knee into place and I got a second round of X-rays to make sure nothing was wrong with my knee. I got crutches and was told to use them for the next couple of days. i went home and it didn't cost me anything
Some rare conditions and medications are not covered by the Norwegian healthcare system
When you stay in a hospital in Sweden you pay around 10 dollars a day. It is to cover te food.
I had a c section and our son was ill so 10 days in the icu there was no bill.
My ex-wife in Canada had a c-section, same treatment. It is amazing how this is common knowledge for the rest of us and surprising to Americans.
Britain pay for Healthcare the same way, out of our Taxes we pay through our Jobs.
Yes in (most) of Europe, when going to the hospital there's never mention of money and you never see a bill, they just initially check your ID and that you're covered. You just get what you need. I've never had to pay a deductible, I didn't even know what that was until I visited the USA. And for example insulin here costs a few dollars a vial (which i hear can cost hundreds in the US). Treatment has been fast too, it's a myth that the US system is 'faster'.
The tragedy is that Americans accept their terrible healthcare system, when every other developed country (and most others too) have government administered healthcare that's free or very cheap. Why do you put up with it?
The income tax in norway for 2022 and 2023 was 22% according to the Internet...
Usually you pay "egenandel" its like 20 dollars
I got an ambulance ride (2,5 hours) hospitalstay for 3 days and got my gallbladder removed. It cost me nothing. 🇳🇴
And I pay $300 in taxes. No health insurance. So I probably pay less a month for the things I get, than some health insurances cost in the US
same in sweden:)
Nurses in Norway make as much per hour as a well paid waitor at a semi-good restaurant. So it's not all good.
I pay 0 for Ozempic😊. My father was 4weeks in hospital and paid little or no money. 😊
I call free health care REAL freedom. Instead of weapons everywhere we have free health care.
Just to point out, it’s completely free! Even the food is free when you’re admitted 😅
6:35 Yes, that's what it's like
If there is one thing norwegians normally dont complain about, its our income taxes. We pay, because we know that if we are going til we are 100 yrs, somewhere along the way we might come in a situation where we will need longterm healthcare. If not us, maybe our kids, spouse, grandparents, yes whoever. And we dont mind that it pays for others too. If we are very lucky, we hopefully will never need it. Because others paid for mine.
I dont get americans, atleast those who thinks/says that they are not interessted in paying for others, they dont bealive in solidarity... but isnt that exactly what they are doing by paying for their insuarances? You pay every month, so you have it JUST IN CASE you might need it in future, if you are lucky you might never need it. They are not putting in a box with you name on it, it all goes in one big "bag" and is used for payout for other peoples hospital bills. That insuarance doesnt even pay 100%, you may need to pay something out of your pocket
I had a three weeks stay in hospital back in 2022, because of brain bleed, I went through multiple CT scans, with and without contrast, multiple ambulance-rides, one air ambulance ride (helicopter with onboard doctor), pain medication incl opoiods, food and bed for all those weeks. An american commenter told commented that it would have cost me aroung $100.000, if not more..... we paid $10 for parking.
I had to recover at home for months, with government paying salary, Healthcare didnt bankrupt me, recovery didnt bankrupt me.
What paid for all this? Mine and other norwegians income taxes.
Its this, in Nordic countrys, your healt insurance is included in your taxes, and your pension fund, and your education/your childrens education! And a lot of things that is higly subsidicesed, like kindergarten/public transportation and even dental care!
In USA the taxes need to be low, becuse people need to buy expensive insurance, save money for there childrens education, and on top of that have a lot of money if they if they get sick, to pay for ambulance and medical care!
The caveat is that US pays double up for this necessary things.. those that can afford it! The rest isnt coverd at all or to a minor extens!
In anyway in USA people rather trust a private insurance board, to tell wich medical treament one need, in Nordic countrys we rather trust our doctors to make this decision!
As a Norwegian I may have had better (individual, case by case) experciences with Spanish healthcare in the few cases when I've actually, really needed them. I have Norwegian-French relatives, and they seem to have mostly good to very impressive experiences.
And how our Norwegian healthcare system works is analyzed and critized almost down to the atomic level if it's an issue in an election year. Picked apart in munute details almost, from the far left to far right political spectrum.
I was adimtted to a Norwegian hospital, small town of approx. 40 000 about a year ago for a "small tumor, let's investigate what it is" kind of thing. One year later I'm a shadow of my former self. It was hell at times. Cancer treatment really can be. Still grateful it was a Norwegian hospital, though. That tumor turned out to be big, freaking deal. There have been things I've been very frustrated about sometimes along the away. But I'm alive. There's hope.
Yeah, I'm the first to critize things like lack of coordination countrywise, county wise of even at times municipality wise. But on the whole, it's a 1st world, very well developed system that won't throw you out on the street in a hospital gown.
Not great innovation wise? Well, it's actually not at bad for the population. Teamed up with the Danes and Swedes (just as an example) it seems to get even better.
I'm glad this guy had positive experinces, although this seems idealized a bit. But yeah, in the bigger picture sense, it's very, very far from the socialistic h*llhole the US right portrays is to be.
The story of treatment taking so much time in Europa and other places with universal healthcare is mainly propaganda by those trying to deny similar services to those living in the US.
Every country should focus on their civil development and not their military development… Atleast not almost prioritize military development over civil development…
I feel like if America didnt spend 877 billion USD on their military, but instead put some of that into schools, healthcare etc… America could become a better country… And still have the best military… (And cool toys 😂)
Maybe but they are the only country policing our oceans right now. I think China would be a lot more bold if it wasn't for the United States. Also South Korea would be North Korea if it wasn't for the U.S. troops stationed there; my wife is South Korean and Koreans freely admit this. While I would be the first one to say the U.S. doesn't do anything for humanitarian and noble reasons their military might is still of great benefit to many of us. This is coming from a Canadian who is quite critical of the country.
I think most of what you yourself pay is just the visit ... the checkup and medication I guess but alot of it is covered
God Jul :-)
Imagine if your healthcare insurance money was a part of the taxes...
If you complain about the American health care, make sure you vote Democrat. There is no good explanation to why women, Blacks or ordinary workers with a salary of less than $ 100 000 would vote for Republicans. Very strange that so many will vote against their interests.
Dems are letting in so many refugees that there will be no tax money left for health care
We are EQUAL so why should the CEO get better healthcare than the mcdonald's cashier. we should be treaded and not have to stress over how to pay for it. it's not free its free use. and taxes pays it. Being Danish just makes me smile know we can take care of each others just like our good neighbor Norway.
That equal thing is a bit of a crap shoot though. I lived in Norway for two years and it is not uncommon for a Norwegian employer to hire an underqualified Norwegian over a more qualified immigrant; this is an immigrant that speaks the language fluently. My own father, who was hired as a consultant, had graduates fresh out of university that didn't want to listen to him because he was a foreigner; he had 30 years experience at that time from working in places like Canada, U.S., Malaysia, China and Saudi Arabia. When Norwegians talk about equality I take it with a grain of salt.
That said I would be curious to know how Denmark is in comparison.
As a Norwegian I am angry he had to pay for the taxi home!
Bucket, you can not do Norway- must only do Canada. Bahahaha, if you know, you know. Love your stuff Tyler, or whatever your real name is.
Its also cost free to give birth all included even ambulanse if needed, amazing right ? kinda should be since you are helping the society by having kids.