You probably know this, Tim, but S&S design #2166 had more than one incarnation, including the South Hants Engineering SHE 36, which made her reputation in the 1979 Fastnet. Sailing mine across the Atlantic in 2023, we exceeded 11 knots on several occasions (12.4 was the max we observed) and even then - 5 knots over hull speed - the handling was rock solid.
Australian, here. The Swarbrick S&S 34's are somewhat of an icon, here. Not only did Jessica Watson circumnavigate in one, a young fellow by the name of Jesse Martin preceded her. It was his record which she broke. In true sporting fashion, Jesse Martin went aboard Watson's boat to assist her as she came into dock in Sydney Harbour following her circumnavigation. Tens of thousands of people gathered to greet her, and well over a million more Australians watched the broadcast of her arrival on Television. I can assure you that I was one of the many that had a lump in my throat, that day. Yes, these boats are cemented in Australian folklore for the two Jesse's remarkable efforts. But they have been raced and cruised so much by Australians that their reputation for seaworthiness is only emboldened by Martin and Watson's achievements. Their teams chose these vessels for a reason. While being somewhat on the "sportier" side, the S&S 34's were not hobnailed with the shortcomings of some IOR designs. They have been tested to such an extent that they can now be considered a true, fast yet safe "small" blue water vessel. They are still raced every Saturday in Australia, and you will see them for sale 52 weeks of the year with some pedigree or another. My 26 year old son dreams of one of these. I keep telling him to speak to his mother!
I am entering this crazy world of sailing with a Swarbrick built S&S 30, which i am "fixing up" on the hard atm in NSW Australia. I have researched long and hard and also wanted a S&S 30, or copy cat Duncanson 34, but this 30fter was the right price and I fell in love. I had a surveyor give her a once over before I started. Passed with flying colours, but the excitement of the surveyor was very obvious, as he wanted to buy her there and then. S&S have such an incredible following in Australia, and they all look so beautiful. Glad Practical Sailor snapped you up Tim, your make sailing seem accessible for all, thanks.
Thanks Tim all the new content has been awesome. Truly boats are my passion and I love everything about them. I tell people all the time it’s a lifestyle not a hobby. Love stories, diy, tours, and especially history. Knowing the history and the people behind things is so cool to me. Thanks
Finger prints of Sparkman and Stephens are everywhere. We have a 1968 Chris Craft Cherokee 32 (sailboat!) which was designed for them by S&S - classic lines!
I crewed foredeck on a UK built S&S 34 in the early 1980's and although this design type had generally been eclipsed on the racing circuit in the mid 1970's by IOR boats from up and coming designers like Doug Peterson, Ron Holland and Bruce Farr, we still had our share of successes, generally in a fresh breeze with lots of windward work. The Hughes 35 / Northstar 1500 is a good example of that early 1970's design philosophy but at it's debut in 1974 was dated in terms of competetive IOR racing. It is interesting that in 1973 the Admiral's Cup was dominated by S&S designs but by 1977 and later this dominance had vanished.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos Both practical sailor and Lady K. I miss my 1972 Bill Trip Columbia 30. She was fast and roomy. You are getting me excited again about sailing since my wife passed. Your mission is working for me.
I recognized the lines of the S&S 34 instantly and I had a big grin on my face when you popped up your North Star 1500. I owned and solo raced a 1974 North Star 1000 out the Toronto Islands. While definitely a dog in light airs, heavier winds were a joy with one reef in the main.
After having a 1972 Pearson 26 for 52 years, I passed it on to my grown son, which he is very much enjoying. It's such a solid sailboat, which I consider overbuilt at the time. I stumbled into purchasing a 1967 Bristol 35.5 in 2020 , which was also overbuilt at the time. It is a tank but under a working jib alone will do over 6 knots. Early fiberglass sailboats are wonderful as the builders did not know what it takes for q good craft.
Thanks for the walk through. We’d love to see a video on sail drives and how to do the seal. There’s not much info out there beyond saying it isn’t hard.
I sail a Pearson26OD and it's underbody is very similar to the S&S in this article. I remembered that the P26 designer was William Shaw, who worked at S&S before taking over design at Pearson. Our club has twenty two P26s, some more than forty years old, which are raced and cruised regularly.
I raced a Catalina 38 for 30 (sparkman stephans design with the pregnant hull as we called it) years great boat and rule beater. We rated 118 PHRF. Had a penalty boom on it for a while but took it off as it wasn't worth the rating hit. It as a great boat and i felt comfortable in any weather.
I have owned 5 live aboard cruisers up to a 46’ ketch. My first was a an OB powered Chris Pawnee 26’ S&S design. I cruised this boat thousands of miles to the far Out Islands of the Bahamas. (Yeah, young and crazy). It was very seaworthy and a wonderful boat to sail. Sheet to tiller was all I had for any kind of auto steering. My other most recent sailboat was another S&S that was also a wonderful and very well behaved sailboat, a Tartan 37 CB. Sweet boat. She really sailed quite well board up. Unless racing or on a serious up wing passage , didn’t need it down. Yes, S& S designs a nice boat. They weren’t serious racers but definitely not dogs either. And tracked well at sea.
I have a Yankee 30 (S&S design 1999) that I absolutely intend to take into the Pacific. She’s still a bit of a project at the moment, though. For now we’ll stick to the SF Bay.
Thanks again Tim. Looking at a 1980 37 Endeavor for sale at a good price. I read the actual first article on Practical Sailor from way back and it was relatively positive. Just curious your thoughts
Would you sail the oceans in one of these older boats? I believe that many of the modern boats have lost a great deal of seaworthiness as they cater to the island hopping trips of 10 to 30 nautical miles. 30 NM is a major sail for many people today. I have a very short list of boats newer than year 2000 that I would take on an ocean crossing. I trust the older, solid core hulls especially if they have a longer fin keel and a skeg hung rudder. The older boats tend to be the ones I say will be found floating months after the crew abandoned ship because of fear. I prefer something with a little less overhang to maintain waterline length and a little more weight to increase stability.
Well, I do own a 1963 sailboat and I absolutely plan on taking it out in the ocean. For my next boat, I will have to look into that sail drive thingy. People have circumnavigated in all types of weird contraptions. The story that survive are the ones of the successes. But you don’t need a super fancy boat to do it. Chances are you can do it in the boat you already own. Question though: how do you attach a wind vane on sailboats with a sugarscoop ?
I have a Duncanson 34 and while initially they look very similar once you park them side by side you start to see just how different they are. As a blue water yacht? Yeah it rocks nice stable and with that IOR hull design it smashes a damn big hole through the water. Get her over to 15 degrees and yeah she flys with that added couple of meters of waterline it can really make a difference. A good solid boat built bu people who fully understood sailing in the southern ocean, shes great fun down wind and the hydrovane works well keeping her on track. We are chuffing off later on this year so keep an eye out around asia and you never know I may just get crazy enough to get around possibly across the pacific to the US west coast. I feel totally safe regardless of what the weather throws at it. Just because it's an older design don't discard them as dead in the water dinosaurs as sailed well it can be quite the weapon.
I was eyeballing one Babe. (S&S 6.6, aka known as S&S 30) built in Finland in possession of a single family since she was built. Ridiculously low price, a bit rough around the edges but seemed in fairly good shape. Two rudders, but check this out- the front one and back one!!! Just quirky enough to be special. I wish I lived closer to sea. And I hope she went to good hands. Super cheap, super beautiful, simple, yet complicated enough to be special. Also looked easy to maintain. Not much data on these gems. I think you guys would flip out if you knew the price. I also found an info about Olin Stephens: late in his life someone asked him what was his favorite boat that he made. He said: "Babe!"
@@maverickmyrtlebeach I believe Babe was aimed more at regatas. I think the extra rudder on keel was meant for better tacking. I also found one in England but they glassed the keel rudder. You can see the seam on photos. Still cheap and interesting.
@@richspurlock24 my (somewhat lengthy)reply was erased. Probably because of hyperlink to an ad. Sorry about that. Maybe if you google S&S 6.6 and Njuškalo in one search you could find the old ad. I found the ad while she was priced at 10000 Euros but she went as low as 7000 if I remember correctly. Or try to google model with her name: Asterix.
Great review. On occasion, more reviews of these older capable sailboats. 35" and under please...as they look like a fun start to sailing into retirement.
Hi Tim..i've mentioned this to you before..i have the same boat as yours..only shes a 76 northstar..its up for grads to anyone who wants her..for free..needs work like any old boat does..but shes solid..on her cradle just east of Oshawa..if you know anybody who may be interested..please let me know..thanks Phil..an yes im a sub..great Chanel
Thanks Tim, lovely boats. But if you only saw Netflix you wouldn't know the controversy surrounding her voyage. It has been forgotten by history. Lady K is no doubt running on budget & schedule,, boats always do...⚓
I always felt the 14-year-old girl from Europe was way cooler. Although it was not a Non-Stop circumnavigation less publicity, no sponsors less hype. She just went and did it because she wanted to.
@@texasyankee3512 yeah, it's insane but sailing around the five capes is not necessarily count as circuit navigating the world. It counts as circumnavigating Antarctica just definitely much harder route
@@donaldvanvliet9039 yeah much cooler. The other one was kind of just like. Yeah nah lots of publicity. Lots of sponsors. It was all about famed and money had nothing to do with actually doing the job just for fun
It would complete the boat's overall look if you replaced your sails with large blue plastic tarps and parked it under a highway bridge. But it is still better than mine.
All SS34 Joh Sanders David Dicks Jesse Martin Jessica Watson All Australian and all went around the World in a SS34 And I have meet Kay Cottee Cook for Jesse Martin and Jessica Watson at my yacht club at HBYC in Melbourne Australia.
those hulls are very good looking. I think my favorites are the s&s Swans. for living aboard cats make so much sense but I just don't love their looks..
That was STUPID movie. 80 perc of time she was sitting talking on sat phone , doing nothing and strapping to bed when weather gets bad instead of being in cockpit. One big crazy fake show for masses
Thanks for the walk through. We’d love to see a video on sail drives and how to do the seal. There’s not much info out there beyond saying it isn’t hard.
You probably know this, Tim, but S&S design #2166 had more than one incarnation, including the South Hants Engineering SHE 36, which made her reputation in the 1979 Fastnet. Sailing mine across the Atlantic in 2023, we exceeded 11 knots on several occasions (12.4 was the max we observed) and even then - 5 knots over hull speed - the handling was rock solid.
Wowww!!!!
Australian, here. The Swarbrick S&S 34's are somewhat of an icon, here. Not only did Jessica Watson circumnavigate in one, a young fellow by the name of Jesse Martin preceded her. It was his record which she broke. In true sporting fashion, Jesse Martin went aboard Watson's boat to assist her as she came into dock in Sydney Harbour following her circumnavigation.
Tens of thousands of people gathered to greet her, and well over a million more Australians watched the broadcast of her arrival on Television. I can assure you that I was one of the many that had a lump in my throat, that day.
Yes, these boats are cemented in Australian folklore for the two Jesse's remarkable efforts. But they have been raced and cruised so much by Australians that their reputation for seaworthiness
is only emboldened by Martin and Watson's achievements. Their teams chose these vessels for a reason. While being somewhat on the "sportier" side, the S&S 34's were not hobnailed with
the shortcomings of some IOR designs. They have been tested to such an extent that they can now be considered a true, fast yet safe "small" blue water vessel.
They are still raced every Saturday in Australia, and you will see them for sale 52 weeks of the year with some pedigree or another. My 26 year old son dreams of one of these. I keep telling him to speak to his mother!
I am entering this crazy world of sailing with a Swarbrick built S&S 30, which i am "fixing up" on the hard atm in NSW Australia.
I have researched long and hard and also wanted a S&S 30, or copy cat Duncanson 34, but this 30fter was the right price and I fell in love.
I had a surveyor give her a once over before I started. Passed with flying colours, but the excitement of the surveyor was very obvious, as he wanted to buy her there and then.
S&S have such an incredible following in Australia, and they all look so beautiful.
Glad Practical Sailor snapped you up Tim, your make sailing seem accessible for all, thanks.
Tim was Kay Cottee's boat the same. I remember it was also an S&S as well. Thank you in advance.
Thanks Tim all the new content has been awesome. Truly boats are my passion and I love everything about them. I tell people all the time it’s a lifestyle not a hobby. Love stories, diy, tours, and especially history. Knowing the history and the people behind things is so cool to me. Thanks
Finger prints of Sparkman and Stephens are everywhere. We have a 1968 Chris Craft Cherokee 32 (sailboat!) which was designed for them by S&S - classic lines!
I crewed foredeck on a UK built S&S 34 in the early 1980's and although this design type had generally been eclipsed on the racing circuit in the mid 1970's by IOR boats from up and coming designers like Doug Peterson, Ron Holland and Bruce Farr, we still had our share of successes, generally in a fresh breeze with lots of windward work. The Hughes 35 / Northstar 1500 is a good example of that early 1970's design philosophy but at it's debut in 1974 was dated in terms of competetive IOR racing. It is interesting that in 1973 the Admiral's Cup was dominated by S&S designs but by 1977 and later this dominance had vanished.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos
Both practical sailor and Lady K. I miss my 1972 Bill Trip Columbia 30. She was fast and roomy. You are getting me excited again about sailing since my wife passed. Your mission is working for me.
I recognized the lines of the S&S 34 instantly and I had a big grin on my face when you popped up your North Star 1500. I owned and solo raced a 1974 North Star 1000 out the Toronto Islands. While definitely a dog in light airs, heavier winds were a joy with one reef in the main.
Jon Sanders, from Perth Australia, also sailed a S&S34 around the world non-stop a few times!
After having a 1972 Pearson 26 for 52 years, I passed it on to my grown son, which he is very much enjoying. It's such a solid sailboat, which I consider overbuilt at the time. I stumbled into purchasing a 1967 Bristol 35.5 in 2020 , which was also overbuilt at the time. It is a tank but under a working jib alone will do over 6 knots. Early fiberglass sailboats are wonderful as the builders did not know what it takes for q good craft.
Glad to hear good review of Pearson. I have been looking at some for myself. Then recently hearing some youtubers saying they are trash worried me.
Thanks for the walk through. We’d love to see a video on sail drives and how to do the seal. There’s not much info out there beyond saying it isn’t hard.
I sail a Pearson26OD and it's underbody is very similar to the S&S in this article. I remembered that the P26 designer was William Shaw, who worked at S&S before taking over design at Pearson. Our club has twenty two P26s, some more than forty years old, which are raced and cruised regularly.
I raced a Catalina 38 for 30 (sparkman stephans design with the pregnant hull as we called it) years great boat and rule beater. We rated 118 PHRF. Had a penalty boom on it for a while but took it off as it wasn't worth the rating hit. It as a great boat and i felt comfortable in any weather.
Great stuff as always 😎
I have owned 5 live aboard cruisers up to a 46’ ketch. My first was a an OB powered Chris Pawnee 26’ S&S design. I cruised this boat thousands of miles to the far Out Islands of the Bahamas. (Yeah, young and crazy). It was very seaworthy and a wonderful boat to sail. Sheet to tiller was all I had for any kind of auto steering. My other most recent sailboat was another S&S that was also a wonderful and very well behaved sailboat, a Tartan 37 CB. Sweet boat. She really sailed quite well board up. Unless racing or on a serious up wing passage , didn’t need it down. Yes, S& S designs a nice boat. They weren’t serious racers but definitely not dogs either. And tracked well at sea.
Thank you
S & S 34 also solo non stop around the world by Jon Sanders, Jesse Martin and David Dicks before Jessica Watson so proven at it.
I have a Yankee 30 (S&S design 1999) that I absolutely intend to take into the Pacific. She’s still a bit of a project at the moment, though. For now we’ll stick to the SF Bay.
Nice video. Informative.
Thanks again Tim. Looking at a 1980 37 Endeavor for sale at a good price. I read the actual first article on Practical Sailor from way back and it was relatively positive. Just curious your thoughts
Would you sail the oceans in one of these older boats? I believe that many of the modern boats have lost a great deal of seaworthiness as they cater to the island hopping trips of 10 to 30 nautical miles. 30 NM is a major sail for many people today. I have a very short list of boats newer than year 2000 that I would take on an ocean crossing. I trust the older, solid core hulls especially if they have a longer fin keel and a skeg hung rudder. The older boats tend to be the ones I say will be found floating months after the crew abandoned ship because of fear. I prefer something with a little less overhang to maintain waterline length and a little more weight to increase stability.
Well, I do own a 1963 sailboat and I absolutely plan on taking it out in the ocean.
For my next boat, I will have to look into that sail drive thingy.
People have circumnavigated in all types of weird contraptions. The story that survive are the ones of the successes. But you don’t need a super fancy boat to do it. Chances are you can do it in the boat you already own.
Question though: how do you attach a wind vane on sailboats with a sugarscoop ?
The beautiful art of lifting the value on anything old boaty.
If I had a lazy $300k lying around to buy a boat with, I'd agree.⚓
@@UncleJoeLITE More like lift $3k to $30k.
I have a Duncanson 34 and while initially they look very similar once you park them side by side you start to see just how different they are. As a blue water yacht? Yeah it rocks nice stable and with that IOR hull design it smashes a damn big hole through the water.
Get her over to 15 degrees and yeah she flys with that added couple of meters of waterline it can really make a difference.
A good solid boat built bu people who fully understood sailing in the southern ocean, shes great fun down wind and the hydrovane works well keeping her on track.
We are chuffing off later on this year so keep an eye out around asia and you never know I may just get crazy enough to get around possibly across the pacific to the US west coast. I feel totally safe regardless of what the weather throws at it.
Just because it's an older design don't discard them as dead in the water dinosaurs as sailed well it can be quite the weapon.
Great sleuth work.
I was eyeballing one Babe. (S&S 6.6, aka known as S&S 30) built in Finland in possession of a single family since she was built. Ridiculously low price, a bit rough around the edges but seemed in fairly good shape. Two rudders, but check this out- the front one and back one!!! Just quirky enough to be special. I wish I lived closer to sea. And I hope she went to good hands. Super cheap, super beautiful, simple, yet complicated enough to be special. Also looked easy to maintain. Not much data on these gems. I think you guys would flip out if you knew the price. I also found an info about Olin Stephens: late in his life someone asked him what was his favorite boat that he made. He said: "Babe!"
Care to share what web site it was on?
WOW never saw a 2 rudder. Must have been tricky to keep steady.. but great for docking...
@@maverickmyrtlebeach I believe Babe was aimed more at regatas. I think the extra rudder on keel was meant for better tacking. I also found one in England but they glassed the keel rudder. You can see the seam on photos. Still cheap and interesting.
@@richspurlock24 my (somewhat lengthy)reply was erased. Probably because of hyperlink to an ad. Sorry about that. Maybe if you google S&S 6.6 and Njuškalo in one search you could find the old ad. I found the ad while she was priced at 10000 Euros but she went as low as 7000 if I remember correctly. Or try to google model with her name: Asterix.
Kenellä oli tämä myynnissä ja missä?
Two things. Log books, are they needed and how much needs to go in them? energy observer, what kind of sails and can you just use the sails?
Great review. On occasion, more reviews of these older capable sailboats. 35" and under please...as they look like a fun start to sailing into retirement.
Most of these boats aren't worth saving.
Get something 20 years or newer so you don't spend your retirement in a boat yard fixing a dumpster
Well you can't sail 24-7...what else you gonna do with all the time that was spent at work previously? ;^)
I would love one
I will give you mine..on the hard east of Toronto.. Northstar 35
I traded some $$ off putting in a wood stove for a 12 ft. S&S sailing dingy. My boys and I learned on that little beast. That was it we were hooked..
Please do a review of an Island Packet 29!
Hi Tim..i've mentioned this to you before..i have the same boat as yours..only shes a 76 northstar..its up for grads to anyone who wants her..for free..needs work like any old boat does..but shes solid..on her cradle just east of Oshawa..if you know anybody who may be interested..please let me know..thanks Phil..an yes im a sub..great Chanel
Love the film. Introduced to me by a great mate who is a biker. Not sure why that's relevant
Thanks Tim, lovely boats. But if you only saw Netflix you wouldn't know the controversy surrounding her voyage. It has been forgotten by history. Lady K is no doubt running on budget & schedule,, boats always do...⚓
I always felt the 14-year-old girl from Europe was way cooler. Although it was not a Non-Stop circumnavigation less publicity, no sponsors less hype. She just went and did it because she wanted to.
Also sailed through the Panama Canal rather than around the world by the Capes and the Southern Ocean -- much easier and safer.
@@texasyankee3512because she wasnt chasing a record
Laura dekker, yeah she’s awesome.
She did sail around the cape of good hope in quite a challenging storm.
@@texasyankee3512 yeah, it's insane but sailing around the five capes is not necessarily count as circuit navigating the world. It counts as circumnavigating Antarctica just definitely much harder route
@@donaldvanvliet9039 yeah much cooler. The other one was kind of just like. Yeah nah lots of publicity. Lots of sponsors. It was all about famed and money had nothing to do with actually doing the job just for fun
It would complete the boat's overall look if you replaced your sails with large blue plastic tarps and parked it under a highway bridge. But it is still better than mine.
I may not be remembering it correctly, but I thought Pink Lady was described in the movie as being only 27 feet long-was this another dramatization?
Why is it always about her when the Dutch girl did it before. Laura Dekker
Laura Dekker sailed two years after Jessica Watson.
Laura did several stop overs, while Jessica sailed non stop.
@@animapulcra9205 Both way beyond what most of us will ever do.
It just comes down to some people being better at promoting themselves..
Laura Dekker was younger...and sailed a longer course.
All SS34
Joh Sanders
David Dicks
Jesse Martin
Jessica Watson
All Australian and all went around the World in a SS34
And I have meet Kay Cottee
Cook for Jesse Martin and Jessica Watson at my yacht club at HBYC in Melbourne Australia.
those hulls are very good looking. I think my favorites are the s&s Swans. for living aboard cats make so much sense but I just don't love their looks..
Used to call them pregnant Guppies
That was STUPID movie. 80 perc of time she was sitting talking on sat phone , doing nothing and strapping to bed when weather gets bad instead of being in cockpit. One big crazy fake show for masses
The best part is when the boat capsized and was underwater, and didn’t leak a drop!
Thanks for the walk through. We’d love to see a video on sail drives and how to do the seal. There’s not much info out there beyond saying it isn’t hard.