I'm a complete noob to B&S and chose a summoner yesterday as my first character. I don't think it matters with me because no matter whom I chose, I'm still lost in the sauce lol. At any rate, thanks for the info. I may reroll once I figure out the important stuff.
All are good recommendations because of the buffs. Although, Warlock is probably twice as crucial because there is 1 SB class and 2 BB classes. People are always happy to carry a weaker WL in exchange for WL's buff. Summoner is also a decent class, since it has lots of heals, party protects, cat rezzes, cat full party rez, and cat taunt. I was recently the only summoner in a BT raid, and the party I was in had much better survivability than the other party. Survival is a really underrated component of dps. Gunslingers are also fine, since they have high dps, and some parties just need dps. Tank classes are also dope (specifically in 12-man raids, but basically in anything). There are lots of raids that have every role filled except tank, and tank is all they're looking for.
Great video, and very helpful too; thank you! The only thing I would criticize is that the emphasis seems to be on what would be the best class to play for a new player who wants to do dungeons and raids and be the best benefit to their group. What about the solo player who isn't into the dungeon or raid scene? I know that holds players back because raids and dungeons are how you get the best items, but solo PvE shouldn't be ignored when it comes to considering good starting classes.
I main soul fighter and love the fact that they can do melee or ranged at will.It really helps increase survivability to be able to go ranged and stay out of the boss aoe's and still attack.
That's a point I entirely forgot to mention with the soul fighter! Yes it is primarily a melee dps class, but there are several phases on bosses where melee dps isn't possible, so it is nice to be able to switch stances and still contribute to a fight!
Hey EDUS, just want to say thanks for all the hardwork you put in your videos. I'm a returning player after a very long hiatus so I'm basically just like a new player. I did have a destroyer but I do feel like catching up the content as a destroyer will cost a lot of time and money. What class would you recommend that's more economical time and money wise to catch up with the new content? Tyvm!
Why I can't see Awakened Dragonfury's damage in dps meter?Using Focus Chi while Soulburn should register the damage as Awakened Dragonfury damage,but it doesn't!Correct me if I am wrong.Thank you!
Great Channel! I'm an mmo vet but can't play more than a couple hous most nights. How is this game for casuals? I saw you recommended the game for the story on another video but will I be able to endgame progress at all?
I haven't played and I am not done watching but your recommendation for a class for new players is a class for its end game skills? That just seems a bit off as a suggestion.
I am a new player to this game. Just literally started Tuesday night of Oct. 15th 2019. But what the hell is "Ping Dependant"?? You mention that a few times. Was just curious.
what do you think about destroyers?. because i'm starting to feel dissapointed about mine. but i have invested a lot time in it. so i don't want to go to another one and start over. i like it as a class but it seems is just trash in dps, maybe because i don't have all the full end game equipment and aelemental acc
Destoyer ends up getting really solid DPS late game, plus the grab skill is super useful, and necessary for VT for several mini bosses. It's a strong class if you have a lot of time in it and don't want to switch, then don't. It gets better after skybreak spire soulshield and accessories!
Need an opinion... I levelled my first class to max level a couple of weeks ago and I’m wondering if a different class would have been better than soul fighter. Thinking of levelling a second toon, but can’t decide out of gunslinger, blade dancer, summoner or force master. Thoughts?
Quick summary of each: Gunslinger: Hard to get into parties, big dps, little utility. Great to solo farm stuff when geared. Blade Dancer: Restrain skill is useful, otherwise average in just about every category Summoner: Can do every role in any comp. Jack of all trades, easy to find parties, doesn't excel in any one category. Force master: Similar to gunslinger (heavy dps) but with a bit more party utility. hopefully that helps :D
EvilDoUsHarm thanks. That helps. Which are easiest/hardest for rotation? Soul fighter seems pretty easy. I looked up blade dancer, and it’s a bit more complicated on first look?
The honest answer is I don't play blade dancer (like at all) and I don't know the rotation. If you are considering blade dancer I would ask in my discord ( discord.gg/3bUy9fr ) as there are literally 100s of blade dancer mains and they could give you a better idea on the class.
I really love this game, I want to get into it but I never have people to play with. The biggest issue is having consistent people to play with for more than just a few days. It sucks.
i second that, but playing warlock in late game is honestly the best. and providing that raid parties look for warlocks you'll have an easier time finding a party the only thing i hate about it is that frost is a bit slow to play LOL.
Slow? What's your ping? D: EDIT: Scratch that, it took me 22.6 seconds to realise what you meant there! XD It's slow because right off the bat they are DAMN weak in a way but late game you end up being a walking nuclear bomb.
From what I've heard, yes. I've only every used NVIDIA graphics. However I know Intel > AMD for this game as far as processors, as I've played on both. This game is more of a processor limit than graphics.
Gunslinger is the easiest but if you like pets and healing and you like playing a support class i would def recommend Summoner. Summoner how ever is only for the Lyn but the gunslinger is Yun, Jin and they added the Lyn as well.
IDK I feel like the game is dying, I just came back after 2 years of no playing (2016) to see they don't even give the Hongmoon weapon anymore at the start? Like WHAT? It seems they just dont want new players to come in lmao, or even worst they want to give new players a hard time so they end leaving the game faster
For pure dps SF. Warlock dps isn't as high and is fairly RNG heavy. Warlock is mainly for the buff soulburn. Both have solid dps when geared, but SF seems to do the same/more dps without SB than warlock does WITH SB, so...
SF does more dps than WL atm. Overall is debatable simply because warlock has soulburn, which is a buff every party will want. This allows some warlocks to be let into parties undergeared simply for soulburn. Soul fighter brings a group heal and group res and good CC and mobility. They are also generally harder to find since SF is one of the least played classes in the game. So it's either a slow, relatively low dps class with great offensive support, or a high dps class with great mobility and heals/resurrects. Both are generally very wanted.
Wl is a nice class to have but aids t0 lvl i got the 1000 death ach before 50 lol, gunner is the best class for new players big damage easy level and ping friendly with fire
Archer was the best decision for me. I tried bladedancer. I got to 44 and gave up. Lol but on an archer i was better a far distance shooter. Lvl 56 :) second account!
That's the best class if you want to tank, although the new great sword class coming out in a few months will be better at tanking, and I would recommend farming materials up with a gunslinger or warlock so you can transfer them over.
the real problem is when you are waiting for the alpha call to pop 2nd SB and that alpha is either 1. never comming or 2. it takes forever for lazy gunner to press that one button and when he finally does - you already gave up on him and used your leech and now you have a choice to ruin your rotation and buff SB mid leech, or say screw you all and continue your rotation ignoring the late alpha. I am usually going with the last option if alpha is not used before or in 1 sec after the first SB. If gunners are so lazy that they can not press a button in time - why i should suffer?..
BM is an easy class to play as a tank too. KFM gets easier once you get VT badge ( For wind users ) Gunner is forever easy to play. SF depends, ice is straight forward easy. Earth is easy too but might cause focus issues ( can be restored with having legendary soul lul ). WL is kind of easy to play too. Destroyer is uh.... Sin gets easier once you know how to maintain focus. Scummoner is easy to play too. BD is uh too... FM is easy to play but boring as fuck. Sure you be dealing loads of damage but I don't find it fun.
I'd personally steer new-players away from warlock. It's got a lot of RNG to what skill procs and it's a bit of a wind-up class until you get near end-game content.
i kinda disagree with sf thing its actually hard to play but mechanics not the mechanics how to play it but you gotta know mechanics for bosses aswell since if you die everything is fuked , summoner imo is easier to play because of cat.
Dazzuh they nerfed all the low level content like dungeons and gold rewards as well as the daily challenge rewards. Which where essential to gear up your character. Now I assume a lot of new players are kinda in limbo on gearing.
I don't like gunner , because the weapon doesn't go the side. I play Gon female why would they dev. weapons to hide that sexy ass. So I would recommend soul fighter or warlock for new players
lmao maybe if I get good at video games then I could be him. Although I totally had the haircut before he did ;) (like 2011, I've got pictures of high school somewhere L O L)
Blade master. It's the easier of the two tanks. Also the new class coming out in 3-4 months supposedly will be the best tank. So for now I'd say take one of the ones I recommended and use it to farm up materials and gold so when the better tank comes out you can rush it by transferring gold and materials between your characters.
Both of those classes are easy to play and great for new players! I just feel the three I recommend in the video bring a lot more to a party than gunslinger or summoner does. Honestly, if I could do it over again, I would go assassin, simply because of the sheer amount of utility it brings to a party.
@@EvilDoUsHarm What do you know about the summoner?) Is he the easiest?) LOL, well, play on him in the earth with a legendary suspension, I will look at you)
Guess you picked good classes to play then :D These aren't "Beginner" Classes. They're classes that I feel are perfect for getting into parties and easy to gear up, aka great for new players!
Ice has dps problems with high ping, even more than earth. The punches will be way too slow.. I have stage 3 earth accs, and it does more dps than my awakened ice accs, just because of my ping (200~220)
don't go fire BM.... my in game display is around 300 ms (no ping says 250 ish). and i can only do 4 dt per tab. totally screwed up dps. fire fm or shadow dest is still doing fine with 300 ms though. not that badly gimped compared to BM
I'm a complete noob to B&S and chose a summoner yesterday as my first character. I don't think it matters with me because no matter whom I chose, I'm still lost in the sauce lol. At any rate, thanks for the info. I may reroll once I figure out the important stuff.
All are good recommendations because of the buffs. Although, Warlock is probably twice as crucial because there is 1 SB class and 2 BB classes. People are always happy to carry a weaker WL in exchange for WL's buff.
Summoner is also a decent class, since it has lots of heals, party protects, cat rezzes, cat full party rez, and cat taunt. I was recently the only summoner in a BT raid, and the party I was in had much better survivability than the other party. Survival is a really underrated component of dps.
Gunslingers are also fine, since they have high dps, and some parties just need dps.
Tank classes are also dope (specifically in 12-man raids, but basically in anything). There are lots of raids that have every role filled except tank, and tank is all they're looking for.
can you explain more in detail fghjkl i'm noob and i don't understand much
I started with bladedancer and it was my first mmo - I thought I would never lern how to get good :D it took some hours but I love the class now :)
The easiest classes are gunner summoner and soul fighter (my opinion)
I found soul fighter pretty hard
Great video, and very helpful too; thank you! The only thing I would criticize is that the emphasis seems to be on what would be the best class to play for a new player who wants to do dungeons and raids and be the best benefit to their group. What about the solo player who isn't into the dungeon or raid scene? I know that holds players back because raids and dungeons are how you get the best items, but solo PvE shouldn't be ignored when it comes to considering good starting classes.
My boi evil real talk which hairstyle on the soul fighter?
so no destroyer on the spreedsheet
A what? XD
that's a great ideea, doing that survey, u should do more like them. Great work
I main soul fighter and love the fact that they can do melee or ranged at will.It really helps increase survivability to be able to go ranged and stay out of the boss aoe's and still attack.
Ranged dps isnt very viable, but its useful to put the ranged part in your rotation
That's a point I entirely forgot to mention with the soul fighter! Yes it is primarily a melee dps class, but there are several phases on bosses where melee dps isn't possible, so it is nice to be able to switch stances and still contribute to a fight!
Hey EDUS, just want to say thanks for all the hardwork you put in your videos. I'm a returning player after a very long hiatus so I'm basically just like a new player. I did have a destroyer but I do feel like catching up the content as a destroyer will cost a lot of time and money. What class would you recommend that's more economical time and money wise to catch up with the new content? Tyvm!
how do you go into simple mode with just the keyboard like that?
Shift + F3
Hana Ahri thanks
Hey, Does BS still worth playing 2018?
Why I can't see Awakened Dragonfury's damage in dps meter?Using Focus Chi while Soulburn should register the damage as Awakened Dragonfury damage,but it doesn't!Correct me if I am wrong.Thank you!
Please tell me what the name of the outfit on the Soul Fighter character is. :) Thank you
Great Channel! I'm an mmo vet but can't play more than a couple hous most nights. How is this game for casuals? I saw you recommended the game for the story on another video but will I be able to endgame progress at all?
can you please make a soul fighter actual review?
How do you get that head piece?
My first class was an assassin :3
Am looking to join but I prefer tank roles any tips?
I haven't played and I am not done watching but your recommendation for a class for new players is a class for its end game skills? That just seems a bit off as a suggestion.
I am a new player to this game. Just literally started Tuesday night of Oct. 15th 2019. But what the hell is "Ping Dependant"?? You mention that a few times. Was just curious.
Some classes perform better at lower ping than others. So if you have a high ping (200-300) you gonna lose some dps.
How can it be that Yun, is the only race that DON'T ,have a race class only thing?
what do you think about destroyers?. because i'm starting to feel dissapointed about mine. but i have invested a lot time in it. so i don't want to go to another one and start over. i like it as a class but it seems is just trash in dps, maybe because i don't have all the full end game equipment and aelemental acc
Destoyer ends up getting really solid DPS late game, plus the grab skill is super useful, and necessary for VT for several mini bosses. It's a strong class if you have a lot of time in it and don't want to switch, then don't. It gets better after skybreak spire soulshield and accessories!
thanks man, also keep up with the videos.
Mhhh If I look at your voting sheet at 12:49, I can see that Destroyers are pretty irrelevant. XD
also does anyone know a good clan that is willing to help out its newer members...
if you are still playing and without clan you can try joining NoClue
i love your videos keep up the great work
Thank you :D
Need an opinion... I levelled my first class to max level a couple of weeks ago and I’m wondering if a different class would have been better than soul fighter.
Thinking of levelling a second toon, but can’t decide out of gunslinger, blade dancer, summoner or force master.
Thoughts?
Quick summary of each:
Gunslinger: Hard to get into parties, big dps, little utility. Great to solo farm stuff when geared.
Blade Dancer: Restrain skill is useful, otherwise average in just about every category
Summoner: Can do every role in any comp. Jack of all trades, easy to find parties, doesn't excel in any one category.
Force master: Similar to gunslinger (heavy dps) but with a bit more party utility.
hopefully that helps :D
EvilDoUsHarm thanks. That helps. Which are easiest/hardest for rotation? Soul fighter seems pretty easy. I looked up blade dancer, and it’s a bit more complicated on first look?
The honest answer is I don't play blade dancer (like at all) and I don't know the rotation. If you are considering blade dancer I would ask in my discord ( discord.gg/3bUy9fr ) as there are literally 100s of blade dancer mains and they could give you a better idea on the class.
I really love this game, I want to get into it but I never have people to play with. The biggest issue is having consistent people to play with for more than just a few days. It sucks.
I'm returning at bale12.. what do I do to catch up 1050ap
Upgrade to your raven weapon. Then you're basically caught up with that AP and can run whatever you want lol.
EvilDoUsHarm what dungeons should I run to farm mats for it?
I just wanna say one thing.... leveling warlock is AIDS
i second that, but playing warlock in late game is honestly the best. and providing that raid parties look for warlocks you'll have an easier time finding a party the only thing i hate about it is that frost is a bit slow to play LOL.
Slow? What's your ping? D:
EDIT: Scratch that, it took me 22.6 seconds to realise what you meant there! XD
It's slow because right off the bat they are DAMN weak in a way but late game you end up being a walking nuclear bomb.
Yes, leveling a Wl is soo boring, but end game is fun
my brother said he had the same issue until they gave the skill revamp he says it's much easier now.
couldnt you use the upcoming update to fully level a Warnock?
Wondering is there any melee class easy to play?
Destroyer and Blade Master.
i like it assassin even it's hard i will chose it when i start play the game for sure
can I see the stats for Blade Master ..
how can u tell what ur ping is.. and ur fps
thank u SO!! much for this
u think gtx get better fps on bns then AMD ?
From what I've heard, yes. I've only every used NVIDIA graphics. However I know Intel > AMD for this game as far as processors, as I've played on both. This game is more of a processor limit than graphics.
I went from a 980 to a 1080ti and literally saw no difference. I get the same FPS as my wife who is using a 980 still.
Gunslinger is the easiest but if you like pets and healing and you like playing a support class i would def recommend Summoner. Summoner how ever is only for the Lyn but the gunslinger is Yun, Jin and they added the Lyn as well.
IDK I feel like the game is dying, I just came back after 2 years of no playing (2016) to see they don't even give the Hongmoon weapon anymore at the start? Like WHAT?
It seems they just dont want new players to come in lmao, or even worst they want to give new players a hard time so they end leaving the game faster
LightMusicK well ya the Hong moon weapon is no longer relevant you keep getting different weapons til 55 then get baleful or seraph and upgrade that
gyus which class is the best for dps player soul fighter or warlock
For pure dps SF. Warlock dps isn't as high and is fairly RNG heavy. Warlock is mainly for the buff soulburn. Both have solid dps when geared, but SF seems to do the same/more dps without SB than warlock does WITH SB, so...
so sf better than wl right
SF does more dps than WL atm. Overall is debatable simply because warlock has soulburn, which is a buff every party will want. This allows some warlocks to be let into parties undergeared simply for soulburn. Soul fighter brings a group heal and group res and good CC and mobility. They are also generally harder to find since SF is one of the least played classes in the game. So it's either a slow, relatively low dps class with great offensive support, or a high dps class with great mobility and heals/resurrects. Both are generally very wanted.
give me your advice make wl for dps or sf for dps
I would generally suggest warlock, since the buff they have will pretty much always guarantee you a chance for late-game PvE groups.
Assassin or blade master
Wl is a nice class to have but aids t0 lvl i got the 1000 death ach before 50 lol, gunner is the best class for new players big damage easy level and ping friendly with fire
WL barely have s, its really slow, so u die easily.
Archer was the best decision for me. I tried bladedancer. I got to 44 and gave up. Lol but on an archer i was better a far distance shooter. Lvl 56 :) second account!
What about blademaster
That's the best class if you want to tank, although the new great sword class coming out in a few months will be better at tanking, and I would recommend farming materials up with a gunslinger or warlock so you can transfer them over.
Tab Tab Alt+Tab master class
L O L yes it is.
Unless you forget to tab.
Like I do when I play warlock L O L
The real problem is when u have a gunner then he use the alpha call u have to wait until the first soulburn end to do the Alt+Tab
the real problem is when you are waiting for the alpha call to pop 2nd SB and that alpha is either 1. never comming or 2. it takes forever for lazy gunner to press that one button and when he finally does - you already gave up on him and used your leech and now you have a choice to ruin your rotation and buff SB mid leech, or say screw you all and continue your rotation ignoring the late alpha. I am usually going with the last option if alpha is not used before or in 1 sec after the first SB. If gunners are so lazy that they can not press a button in time - why i should suffer?..
damnit levi, now im gonna have 10x as many wls who sb even though i have bw, and they dont even have 1 minute sb
BM is an easy class to play as a tank too.
KFM gets easier once you get VT badge ( For wind users )
Gunner is forever easy to play.
SF depends, ice is straight forward easy. Earth is easy too but might cause focus issues ( can be restored with having legendary soul lul ).
WL is kind of easy to play too.
Destroyer is uh....
Sin gets easier once you know how to maintain focus.
Scummoner is easy to play too.
BD is uh too...
FM is easy to play but boring as fuck. Sure you be dealing loads of damage but I don't find it fun.
170/180/200 is still good for sin, I pvp with that and I am fine.
I wish a lyn race could be a soul fighter... T.T
You just want bb and sb 😂😂 jk nice video #gunnersaremonkeys
Why do you have two destroyers and two kfm's,btw im a warlock xD
My BD and BM are on my other account, EvilDUH LOL.
I'd personally steer new-players away from warlock. It's got a lot of RNG to what skill procs and it's a bit of a wind-up class until you get near end-game content.
Warlocks don't just get to be flashy, they also get to be pretty THICC. Just ask Thousand Souls! :D
L O L.
I recommend Summoner
Too bad the game has heavy pay to do something, we just have TWO character slots.
you can exchange gold for HM coins, extra slot voucher is the cheapest voucher in the store
just make another acc, it's free..
i kinda disagree with sf thing its actually hard to play but mechanics not the mechanics how to play it but you gotta know mechanics for bosses aswell since if you die everything is fuked , summoner imo is easier to play because of cat.
also what is more now the healing for sf is a little harder to pull off
warden has replaced warlock
Best class is kfm, cause no other class will be as miserable or hard uwu
new players after the recent patch lul
Rune Anime rip gold from dailly chest
I'll be putting out a video on gearing as a new player after the patch as well, don't worry :D
(but yes, RIP new players after patch...)
why rip? genuinely curious, I just started playing a few weeks ago and wondering what I'm missing out on.
Dazzuh they nerfed all the low level content like dungeons and gold rewards as well as the daily challenge rewards. Which where essential to gear up your character. Now I assume a lot of new players are kinda in limbo on gearing.
hah, well that explains a lot. thankfully I had some friends that helped me gear up a bit but I'm feeling the severe lack of gold atm.
my ping is 18
I thought that survey isnt a serious thing that u will use to make a vid LOL ( 2:43)
I told you I was going to xD
I don't like gunner , because the weapon doesn't go the side. I play Gon female why would they dev. weapons to hide that sexy ass. So I would recommend soul fighter or warlock for new players
Pfft he only recommended the assassin cuz he wants more taxi's in game.
Is that you sypherpk???
lmao maybe if I get good at video games then I could be him. Although I totally had the haircut before he did ;) (like 2011, I've got pictures of high school somewhere L O L)
This a old video
SO no recommendation for those tank mains out there....
Blade master. It's the easier of the two tanks. Also the new class coming out in 3-4 months supposedly will be the best tank. So for now I'd say take one of the ones I recommended and use it to farm up materials and gold so when the better tank comes out you can rush it by transferring gold and materials between your characters.
Ofc you dont say gunner or summoner lol
Both of those classes are easy to play and great for new players! I just feel the three I recommend in the video bring a lot more to a party than gunslinger or summoner does. Honestly, if I could do it over again, I would go assassin, simply because of the sheer amount of utility it brings to a party.
@@EvilDoUsHarm
What do you know about the summoner?) Is he the easiest?) LOL, well, play on him in the earth with a legendary suspension, I will look at you)
Huh, those are exactly all my lvl55 characters lol
Guess you picked good classes to play then :D
These aren't "Beginner" Classes. They're classes that I feel are perfect for getting into parties and easy to gear up, aka great for new players!
Wl is good for beginners.
XDD ..
still laughing
It was good 7 months ago when the video came out lmao.
Is soulfighter even playable with high ping?
Like 250-300ms
Ice has dps problems with high ping, even more than earth. The punches will be way too slow..
I have stage 3 earth accs, and it does more dps than my awakened ice accs, just because of my ping (200~220)
Julian Beltran Actually, Ice is worse off with high ping
don't go fire BM.... my in game display is around 300 ms (no ping says 250 ish). and i can only do 4 dt per tab. totally screwed up dps. fire fm or shadow dest is still doing fine with 300 ms though. not that badly gimped compared to BM