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Joe Dante on PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2014
- Gothic grandmaster Mario Bava leaves his corpse-strewn crypts behind and takes off into deep (and scary) outer space. In doing so he simply transforms the spaceships into intergalactic haunted houses (though sans cobwebs). Britain's Monthly Film Bulletin accurately pegged this lurid Italian-Spanish-US mash-up as "a triumph of mind over matter, or of Bava over a shoestring budget and appalling dubbed dialogue". It comes replete with the director's usual stylistic flourishes including the oddly fetishistic space suits worn by the beleaguered astronauts and a super-saturated red and green color scheme that suggests sinister Christmas tree lighting.
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I'm not sure why people are still debating this thing anymore, Dan O'Bannon has (had) stated that Planet of the vampires is one of the influences. he said that in several interviews along with IT the terror from beyond space etc. etc. so whether Ridley Scott has seen it or not isn't really the point, O'Bannon who wrote the script that had most of these things in it DID.
KevinR1138 THANK YOU. The provenance of ALIEN's script should be well enough for people to know that Ridley just made the picture itself; he didn't write the dang STORY. And O'Bannon would DEFINITELY have borrowed from it.
i believe this film's plot inspired john carpenter's ghosts of mars also.
Agreed. Thanks !
It influenced because of the art direction not copy it .
I'd never heard the Dan O'Bannon quotes, but could definitely tell that there was a heavy dose of "Planet of the Vampires" in the plot of "Alien", along with "It: The Terror from Beyond Space". The similarities between the three movies are close enough that the real spoilers in talking about the plots would revolve around how the three movies are different from each other! Good to hear that Dan O'Bannon is pretty transparent about his inspirations and influences in these movies: I don't think it would at all be fair to say O'Bannon "stole" anything from those earlier movies; rather, he was clearly a fan of them, respected them, used a few ideas from each to build his own distinct production from, creating his own entry in a trio of sci-fi/horror masterpieces that each cover similar territory in very unique ways.
I'd never considered "Ghosts of Mars" as another movie inspired by "Planet of the Vampires", but now that @John Runion suggests it, it fits really well!
For those who've never seen the early O'Bannon/Carpenter movie "Darkstar", that too is well worth checking out as an obvious predecessor to both "Alien" and "The Thing": the run-down, cynical, alienated, disillusioned working-class crewmen on a claustrophobic, dark, damp, deteriorating spacecraft, pursuing a killer alien through air ducts, while arguing with a supercomputer bomb as it counts down to destruction would be pretty familiar stuff to fans of "Alien", and the crew definitely resemble the characters we know from Carpenter's "The Thing"!
These astronaut costumes....I would wear in my daily life.
I do, every Saturday night.
And you would be uber cool!😎
A cool fashion statement, but sweaty as heck to wear, I'm sure.
The twist at the end is inspired...
Bava was a fucking genius, way ahead of his time....he was the Georgio Armani of euro low budget sci-fi
"IN COLOR"
This being a Mario Bava picture, that should read "IN GLORIOUS COLOR"
Highly-saturated primary colors (used as only directors like Bava and Argento, seemed to know how to do). Gotta love it ! I know I do, at any rate.
@@michaellaplant9543 Check out the lighting during the attempted night escape scenes in "For a Few Dollars More". I don't know how Leone pulled it off, but it struck me as Bava-esque lighting done (somehow) subtly.
A beautiful, chilling film.
For all Brazilian horror fans it was very nice to see our famous theatre and movie star NORMA BENGELL,as tthe main female role in the movie. She was living in Italy by that time. In Brazil the title was O PLANETA DOS VAMPIROS and it was a big hit.
She was very pretty. Especially in that Space Leather Outfit.
You know what I always loved about these movies? The female cast members were all friggin' HOT!!!
Always liked the ending of the film when they're forced to land on Earth, and looking down on New York, Barry Sullivan says something like, "They're very primitive, they still make their cities from metal and stone." LOL.
The outfits remind me of the costumes the X-Men wore in the first film in that franchise. I've only seen this years ago on TV, so I can imagine the European cut must have some stuff I've never seen.
I love how he casually transitions from horror stories of going to NYC theaters in the '60s & '70s to the film itself.
You mean tell me it wasnt shown in regular theater. I figured it had be at drive in.s
"...but anyway" has to be one of the best/worst ways to segue out of a story of witnessing an attempted rape EVER! BTW, loved this film as a kid, the "awakening" scene freaked me out.
I saw it at the double feature show. I really liked it then and don't remember anything about "Die, Monster, Die".
The Bava film wiped out any memory of the other movie.It looked good on the big screen and had an eerie vibe. Worth watching . Heck, it's well worth rewatching!
"I've never seen it" - R. Scott
"Yeah, right." - Me
I don't believe Ridley ever saw this film. It would've been "beneath" him in a way (I say this having worked with him): He wasn't a person who spent time watching small B movies. He was interested in films of a higher level, films that aspired to finer sensibilities. The screenwriter, however, was a big SF fan and freely admitted to liking many films of this kind. So, if the film resembled IT THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE, or QUEEN OF BLOOD or this one, it is very very likely the influence of that screenwriter who, not only developed the story for ALIEN but brought in a number of artists who helped to shape the look of the film, and skewed it toward images from these earlier films. (And I'm a fan of that writer's work/a very creative guy.)
@teucer russell bullshit
@@RSEFX Bullshit. The script writer may lay out the story, but it's the director that creates the mood and atmosphere. And that is CLEARLY derived from this film.
@@varanid9 It seems you are pretty hard-nosed that this is an absolute fact, given that you are declaring it , rather than offering this up as, maybe, a general principle.
Where do you get this background that makes you come to this , to me, rather absolutist assertion ?
@@RSEFX What a director generally does is no secret. And all you have to do is watch both movies. The proof is in the pudding. Sorry if Scott is some kind of hero to you, I don't have strong feelings about him either way.
On VHS in the uk, this had a different score, an electronic cross between Forbidden Planet and Tangerine Dream. It would have been nice if that made it to the DVD as an extra but it's pretty much forgotten now the original has been re-released.
American International films put out tons of classics from Roger Corman such as the Wild Angel's to the Vincent Price horror films . The films were 50s-70s Drive - In double feature films.
Watched recently and loved it, definitely inspired alien
I also get that as well, however, there's something connecting it to the later horror of 'Event Horizon'.
Ignore the the fact its a low budget special effects its a fairly good movie.
blindandwatching agreed 😍
Error: The cast does not have Portuguese actors, but a Portuguese-speaking actress, the Brazilian Norma Bengell, who has made several Brazilian classics, including the Palme d'Or winner "O Pagador de Promessas" (1962).
Saw it in Maryland in a Baltimore suburb along with Die Monster Die when I was around 10. I didn't sleep for a week. But, I remember watching the Exorcist (1974) and being so glad that we left the theater and it was till light out.
This trailer really undercuts the greatness of this film. From the lighting to the great practical effects to the creepy giant skeletons of the aliens it's really brilliant.
I highly recommend that everyone see it if they can. ALIEN really owes a lot to Bava's Planet of the Vampires.
+GreatGarloo Very good. I'm surprised that the trailer editor didn't include some images of those giant alien skeletons, or scenes that took place inside the derelict ship. Those are among the most impressive single things in the film. As much as I like Bava and his cinematographic approach, he wasn't very sophisticated with visual effects, but was able to do certain simple things to keep costs down. Some of the weaker effects---the establishing shots of the volcanic "swamp" the space travelers have to negotiate, for instance----really required the use of hi-speed cameras, which may not have been available (or maybe he simply couldn't raise the light levels sufficiently to photograph the images at high frame rates and maintain proper exposure levels). The shots in outer space were pretty weak too, if courageous attempts, but at least they're short and don't mar the film to a great degree. Bava ultimately, to me, was a master of mood, composition, design and general...what?---weirdness. This film, not in his usual genre, is pretty darn cool.
sorry but it wasn't that good of a movie at all not worth the film it was made on !!
They managed to get a lot of mileage out of a shoestring effects budget, thanks to some creative set design and costumes, expert application of moody lighting and shadow, some decent miniature work and photography that hides the scale well, and some respectably gross low-budget gore effects for the time. The movie actually looks more expensive than it probably actually was!
Mario Bava's BLACK SUNDAY ran at least once a month on Cleveland's late movie throughout the '60's/'70's and I never missed it, soaking up it's glistening black & white imagery (along with a whole lot of marijuana). Bava is proof positive that great cameramen CAN become great directors, not always the case. Too bad real space suits don't look like that. Very proto- punk.
Love black Sunday n Barbara Steele
You must have been a fan of the Ghoul! Or Ghoulardi! Depending on how old you are! I grew up on Big Chuck and Little John Hahaayeuough(That was me trying to type out the Big Chuck and Little John laugh!
If you see the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune (which was released 3 months after this video was published) it is clear that the idea was as original as anything can be and that Ridley Scott didn't even create Alien, he just helped give it life.
I don't think that Ridley Scott and Dan O'Bannon ever tried to claim they were doing anything completely new that had never been tried before, or at least they never tried to back then. Much like other great sci-fi of the late '70s and '80s, like "The Thing" and "Predator", "Alien" was not really meant to be anything more ambitious than a continuation of the sort of '50s and '60s era sci-fi/horror that Scott, O'Bannon, and Carpenter grew up enjoying.
I think it's kind of natural that we could find precedents to "Alien" in "It: The Terror from Beyond Space" and "Planet of the Vampires", to "The Thing from Another World" and "Horror Express" in Carpenter's "The Thing", similarities to "THEM!" in "Aliens", and so on, in much the same way that modern film-makers still refer back to "Alien" and "The Thing" and so on, on a fairly regular basis.
Those '50s era classics would have in their turn borrowed heavily from the '50s pulps like "Weird Tales" and so on - for example, Clark Ashton Smith's "The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis" and Ray Bradbury's "The Martian Chronicles" would have almost certainly been direct inspirations for "It: The Terror from Beyond Space" and "Planet of the Vampires", with Dan O'Bannon probably being quite familiar with those stories as well! (Seriously, "The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis", a tale of a crew of earthmen exploring an ancient ruin on Mars and encountering an alien parasite among the ancient remains of long-dead aliens is recommended reading for fans of "Alien" and "The Thing", being every bit as powerful a work of sci-fi/body-horror as anything written since that story was published back in the 1930s!)
great movie, essential watch specially if you're a big Alien fan
I'm pretty sure Ridley Scott hasn't seen it. But I am also pretty sure Dan O'Bannon who actually wrote Alien, would have seen this.
navrig44 Dan o bannon was a huge b movie fan. and he was a huge fan hr giger
also,
i believe this film's plot inspired john carpenter's ghosts of mars.
Yes, he admitted taking inspiration from this.
Influences are hard to trace, but I see clear borrowings from both IT, the Terror from Beyond Space and Planet of the Vampires. Just enjoy these three movies. Each one has its own pleasures.
My favorite is 'IT".
I saw it as "The Demon Planet", another title it was released under. And while the giant alien skeleton doesn't look quite as cool as Alien's space jockey, the entire scene involving it actually becomes hypnotic, with a glow that pulsates to the beat of a weird electronic sound as the camera fixates on a row of circular doorways that recede into the distance, said pulsating glow almost giving the illusion of life to the skull. Perhaps the most brilliant visual ever.
I remember it as "The Demon Planet" from TV as well, but I never got to see the alien pilot sequence until I obtained the DVD, as it was always cut for TV to get more time for commercials.
@@themagus5906 Of all the things to cut, they cut the most effective part?? Just goes to show you what philistines make these editing decisions. That scene alone catapulted this from an effectively creepy B movie into almost art-house territory. It made this movie very "European", if you compare it to similar fodder produced in the USA at that time.
@@varanid9 I think the TV editors did it because they thought scene didn't add much to the story-line. Some other aliens landed here before; big deal. But I think it adds great value to the story, because, hey, the explorers were not the first to be called in and trapped. And Speed Racer smashed the meteor rejector. 😀
i believe this film's plot inspired john carpenter's ghosts of mars.
I don't care what these directors like Scott , Carpenter and Cameron say, they saw these films as kids. They grew up and said, "I can do better!" At least Carpenter had the guts to do a straight remake of "The Thing" that turned out to be just as good as the original; better in some ways.
@@themagus5906 i have no doubts that cyborg 2087 was swiped by cameron to come up with terminator.
@@johnrunion5357 Yes; that, and the Outer Limits episode "Soldier" which was written by Harlan Ellison.
@@themagus5906 yes, you are right. i had forgotten about that 'influence' ; since it predates the film i mentioned i will give that (" the Outer Limits episode "Soldier" which was written by Harlan Ellison.") the credit for being the 'inspiration' for terminator. thank you for reminding me of it.
I saw this at the theatre as a kid and loved it. Now, it seems pretty ridiculous, but the technobabble is still entertaining. Who can forget '60 fractions of megon'?
"60 fractions of megon" indeed ! I always loved the unabashed "hokiness" of those particular lines......".. and synchronize with the electro-magnetic control device." -- or words to that effect. Classic camp. 😏🌌🚀
LOL, that's almost as good as a line from an episode of Lost in Space: "...drink gloog.....make sleemoth!"
@@michaellaplant9543 and 'suppress cortical areas x, y and z'. HAHA
@@varanid9That's right! From the episode, 'His Majesty Smith'. Great fun, that Lost in Space!
love this movie saw it 5 years ago on the dailymotion website
Saw this late one night on SBS here in Australia and I thought it was brilliant. So much like Alien, especially the skeleton of the giant alien. Another movie I saw at about the same time that I had a similar regard for is "Voyage to the End of the Universe." Both highly recommended.
Voyage yes great movie
This movie looks both delightfully cheesy and shocking with the special effects.
Wow - I'll have to check it out - hopefully it'll be coming to my local Imax soon.
You have a local Imax that shows old movies??
@@varanid9 I was being a tad sarcastic
@@ewaf88 Understood.
What a great, loving commentary, Mr. Dante. But I'm not sure which is better: watching this great film in seedy Philadelphia, or my parents' seedy basement. Either way, a fun, kinky ride.
I agree completely with Mr. Dante. This is a really cool movie, and much better than "Prometheus", despite the vast difference in budgets. The sets of the planet are spooky, the interior of the spaceships is amazing, and the space suits are super hip. Even the acting is decent. The plot holds up, although "Star Trek" did this one first.
If you like pastel lighting on everything, then you'll love this movie. Hot space babes, too!
The sequence where they explore the remains of the alien ship is a tour de force that more than makes up for the cheesiness of the rest of the story.
The story is, to me, more like an Edgar Allan Poe thing, a series of atmospheric events (including the exploration of the derelict ship, the rising of the dead, the bubbling lava "swamp" that separates the two ships, the idea of ghostly aliens who can only be seen out of the corners of the eye etc) that create a world of danger and doubt about what is real, and what might be supernatural influences from...the dead. I don't find that "cheesy", but, then again, that word is brought up so often as to be meaningless to me. I believe that word is derived from "chintz" or "chintzy" and somewhere along the lines someone didn't now how to spell that, or heard it and thought it was "cheese" or "cheesy". It doesn't refer to conceptual things (like a story or ideas): it is meant to refer to the look of something. Noticeably cheap fabric, actually.
I belive that Ridley Scott never saw this but I'd be shocked if Dan O'Bannon had not. I'll have to go back and dig through some interviews as he's always been pretty upfront about the influences
It also has a real twist at the end.
Yes, the spaceship with the vampire lands on ...
@@tenhirankei Shhhhhh ! Don't give it away ! Heh, heh,heh.....🙂😉🤗😄😏😊😀🤣🤣
You can actually find the whole of "Galaxy of Terror" on UA-cam - Which is a surprisingly good and creative 'Alien-like' B-Movie from the early 80s.....Well worth a watch!
I've been meaning to check that one out....along with various others.
I saw it at the Huntridge theater in Las Vegas--built in 1943--on the same day that Nixon resigned in 1974.
very nice
I would like to point out how similar the human ship is in design to Giger's design for the Derelict.
I remember seeing planet of the vampires when I was a kid. Really like the movie. It's one of those cult classics. Matter of fact I have the movie at home. Is something that you bring out to look at on Halloween.
A good creepy movie like this, and maybe "The Thing", original version, 1950s.
The alien prequel.
X men costumes were quite clearly designed with these costumes in mind.
Note: among movies that duplicated Bava's 'Planet of the Vampires' e.g. 1979's 'Alien' and the subsequent 'Prometheus' - I'm always spotting others that stole elements from 'POTV'. Example: the very last scene in 1980's 'Saturn 3' where the ship is headed towards Earth - the director duplicated the last 'POTV' scene and the music is also verbatim, less 'S3' adding some horns to the ominous sounding music. Only takes a moment to UA-cam it to look and listen. It is exact.
I saw it here in Argentina in the late 60s or early 70s on tv and in Spanish.
“Eye Stopping?”
That’s why when I see other low budget of indie films from that time, and knowing the budget for potv, it’s all about the makers and creators and if they made the effort to overcome the limitations, which is what Mario bava often did. And there is no way r Scott didn’t see this, if queen of blood for that matter. And not that alien was good, but come on. At least the Beatles and beach boys gave chuck berry some credit.
I think as others mentioned that Ridley Scott might well not have seen "Planet of the Vampires", but apparently script-writer Dan O'Bannon was familiar with this earlier movie, and does in fact acknowledge it, along with "It: The Terror from Beyond Space", as one of the movies that inspired the story.
O'Bannon's own "Darkstar", made with a very young (and equally brilliant) John Carpenter, was another early source of ideas that would find their way into "Alien".
All four movies are well worth the price of admission, I've watched them all more than once, and I don't feel like any of them have gotten old for me.
Aquaman 2 is gonna be lit.
This was obviously one of the Inspirations for Alien.
I don't believe Ridley
I doubt very very seriously that Ridley is lying about this. I worked with him. This was NOT the kind of film he would give the time of day. The resemblances to older SF/HORROR films stems from the influence of the screenwriter and the artists he brought onto ALIEN who were far more inclined to spend time with little low budget B sf films.
"Meteor Rejector". What?
It makes sense, sorta, by the end of the movie. "Fractions of Megons", or whatever. That too.
David Lynch definitely stole for DUNE,good
Why this guy giving vibes that Ridley Scott created 'alien'?
I think if I had seen this in a double bill with Die Monster Die I would probably have stopped watching SF forever.
I don't know how Joe Dante can say that Ridley Scott has lost anything: alien made his entire career; hes made a lot of other good films and the infamous Apple commercial but alien put him on the map and if it's copied from this film he'd never admit it!
And the costumes are bitchin'!
wow, Joe Dante of Gremlins look old.
Vampires?! 😫😵
0:40 im sorry what
Who is here after aquaman 2 news
this film created to ALİEN
Sorry it was a pretty bad movie lousy special effects even for its day, none of what they say doesn't make any sense 40g gravity would kill you pretty dam fast ,and the brother in the view screen was actually standing there when the screen goes dark you can see him turning sideways to get out of camera view LOL Why would you post men outside where you could just lock the ship up ? Barry was way to old to play the part and the ship interior was way to big , but if you like that sort of thing then enjoy it
Come on
i love Joe Dante and Mario Bava but this film is utter shit, holy shit is this one really fucking awful
You got no imagination.
@@Soundofsilence-j4d no I do but this one was a chore to sit through I'm a bava fan but not everything he made were good as it's been said he cared more how a film looked over it's story.
@@rolandofgilead43 THEY GAVE HIM BAD SCRIPTS. ALL TIME. BAVA EVEN SAID WHAT CAN I DO WITH THIS CRAP. ITS TO BAD. IMAGINE IF HE HAD GOOD SCRIPT. LIKE BLACK SABBATH. PLANET OF VAMPIRES. WAS MESS SO HE DID LOT MORE WITH IT. IF IT WASNT FOR IB MELCHOIR. I HEARD ITALIAN VERSION SECOND SPACE SHIP LANDED IN LAVA. MELCHOIR WOULDNT APROVE OF IT. IT WAS COMPANY NOT BAVA GAVE HIM BAD SCRIPTS. HE WAS STUCK WITH . I CAN SEE. YOUR POIINT. HE WAS VISUAL TO MAKE IT WORK. HE WOULD SAY LETS SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT. HE SAY IM STUCK WITH IT. ONE EXAMPLE WAS GIRL WHO KNEW TWO MUCH.