Owned a DC2R and while I do like the look of a DC5 and yes a K20 is simply a better stock engine....I am sorry the Vtec Crossover on a B18c is music to the ears not to mention how they sound up at redline.
I used to really dislike the dc5 chassis. I owned a few gsr’s in my 20’s. Two that were b18c5 swapped and one with a full jdm front clip swap. I was die hard dc2 until I drove a bolt on dc5r in Florida for a week on trip. It was love at first drive. With a full ohlins coil over setup on spoon wheels, a mild cam with springs, retainers and port and polishing, this thing sang to 9k and the added torque was a much appreciated addition. With only 250-ish hp, it was a backroad beast.
Dc2 and Dc5 are race cars for the street, engine, chassis, gearbox, brakes, seats, etc, you just can't get anything like this unless you go Gt3 Porsche and crazy money...
Personally I like the look of the DC5 more. But never driven a Type R model. 😢😢😢 I would like to experience one of these DC5 - R models one day. Anybody got stories to share of both platforms?
I used to own a DC5R....it just doesn't compare to the DC2R....it's so much more nimble & more fun to drive....I do believe the DC2R is lighter than the DC5R but the thing that makes the K20A special is that the engine itself is lighter than than B18C despite the increase in displacement.
I was kind of blown away by the DC5, simply how much further ahead it is than the RSX Type-S. It's a different league. The car just feels solid and nimble, you said it right.
@@4bangermafiaI am a current DC2R owner. DC5R is absolutely faster, Ive only driven a DC5 type S (the JDM spec Integra, not the RSX) so I havent got a perfect comparison to a DC5R, but I think its the rawness of the driving feel that makes the DC2 so revered, rather than the outright performance.
I own both a 02 Integra Type S k24 turbo and a 2000 Integra DB7 and I love them. 2 totally different driving experiences to say the least but I love the simplicity and reliability of them. Great great cars!
The DC5R is my favorite as I’ve owned 2 tax’s just like the way they look just sucks how much more time and effort goes into them for handling but it’s a great daily
the dc2 is the better chasis but the dc5 is the better engine dc2's sound iconic, but the dc5 can sound unique with the k24 frank setups ideally, both; if you can only get one, get the one you can since theyre becoming more and more rare to find in decent condition
Live in the UK and own a Dc5 type r its been garaged since 2018 due to my financial situation, i was never going to sell it 😅 this summer its finally coming out again to be used and shown the love it deserves cant wait 😁
great video , on point 👍 i hope the new 2023 integra type s/r comes with 2 doors , lsd , and a 6 speed manual, good old recaros and get rid of sat nav and dual climate suff and..... ,. would be nice hopefully it happens
When the RSX came out, I did a direct comparison with my DC2. The RSX was longer, taller, and narrower. The car was not as fun to drive as the DC2. The engine/trans do have more potential, but it's definitely not as rewarding to drive as the DC2 in stock form.
Dc5 owner here and I have to admit, the Dc2 is a better chassis. But, the Dc5's K20A is leaps and bounds ahead of the B18C. Not to say I don't love the sound of the B series' crossover into Vtec, but I prefer the K20. Dc5 with a few simple mods is a far better car, I'd only get a Dc2 to dump a K24 into it. Looks wise I think both look incredible for their time but the Dc5 still looks very modern to me. Peace!
The 05-06 rsx-s is the closest to the type R variant. The k20z1 shares most its parts with the K20a-R aside from compression differences. The Type R also had factory tune for 100+ octane gas. One of my goals is to install the Type R suspension brembos and wheels on my 06 type s.
@@duddy2209 It's really a matter of opinion. The drivetrains are extremely close, separated primarily by an LSD and $300 Hondata reflash (there is an insignificant 10HP difference stock as it is). ~220 pounds of weight separation with lots of subtle changes. What's not close would be a Tesla Plaid which would murder both of these econoboxes.
@@BossItUp911 completely ignoring differences in suspension setup and geometry, the feel of the higher compression engine and the rigidity of the chassis
@@duddy2209 11.0 to 11.5 difference compression is trivial - when the cams, springs, and heads are identical. You just have a really weird definition of "not even close" in my opinion.
I own a 92 civic eg with the B18C. All original Cali car too. I wouldn't trade this beauty for the world. K motors will always be king. No doubt. But the B series is what made Honda performing cars today. And nothing beats revving to 9K. 9KALLTHEWAY!
I'm not sure the S2000 is considered a lagend.. but I dont think its less legendary than the integra.. so nah I'd say the S2000 was the last Legend from honda
she said her car its imported, i live in the states and i have a 2003 rsx base model and was made in japan , i notice going to the yunk jard , that most of the hondas or acuras there are made in the states , its weird maybe the quality of production its better in japan or the materials, definitely acura integras in the 90s were the best engine and they turn the DC5 into a basic car , and the civic and other hondas and acuras with a better engine k204 and DC5 base model k203 even a honda civic with more powerfull engine , thanks for the video im from MEXICO but i have some canadians friend who are the best.
DC5 is like an Golf to drive, cumfy and rafined, power commes progressively, DC2 is race car for the street homologation car, has violent cross over and lighter, all suspension are double wishbone witch is way better then standar Mcpherson suspension used by Golf or cumfy cars
Tested drive this 2 bad boys, DC5: Great power, higher torque, but handling, balance, cornering wise wasn’t so good UNLESS you invest lots of money in it. DC2: B series VTEC kick a lot stronger than K series, power of course not as good as DC5 but still pretty competitive. Handling, balance and cornering better than DC5.
The reason the DC2 vtec pops louder is actually a bad reason; because of the difference in cam profile. The K20 being a better engine with more tq because its not as weak as the B18 outside of VTEC. The VTEC pop is a nice sound but it actually is not desired if you want your engine to make the most power it can. As it gets tuned properly for power that VTEC pop shouldn't be as audible; you want a smooth transition to VTEC.
Nobody in the import scene stateside rocked with the RSX when it came out. Too expensive to buy, no aftermarket support, and the aftermarket parts available carried a huge premium due to the fact the car came from Honda's luxury brand Acura.
A slow burn into greatness I suppose. But then again, I feel more often than not the engines are just pulled and swapped into anything and everything else
No it wasn’t, the FN2 Civic Type R is because it was still in production a year after the S2000 and a few months after the FD2 Type R. There’s been many other N/A Honda’s after the S2000 😂
Nope. You’re wrong, the FN2 Civic Type R was the last one. It was in production until the end of 2010 which was a year longer than the S2000 was and a few months after the FD2 Type R.
didn't see your new integra review, but it is a pos. it looks like a chevy malibu. with a motor worse than a chevy malibu. that has internals weaker than a honda d16 (rod bolts, rods, etc.). the car is hot trash.
Tell me how great, in memory, and easy to maintain your vette is some 30 years after its inception and over 150k miles on the body. And how accessible is over 200hp on the street without an above-average level of driving skill? Even on a track, if you’re not breaking 100mph enough, I would likely chase you down with half the power.
Owned a DC2R and while I do like the look of a DC5 and yes a K20 is simply a better stock engine....I am sorry the Vtec Crossover on a B18c is music to the ears not to mention how they sound up at redline.
There is something that smacks you in the face a bit more when B18 hits that crossover.. it's true.
Yeah I love the B18 stock, but a tuned K20 is a beast.
I loved my Dc2, liked my Dc5 and loved my Fd2 tuned.
Nahh trippin.. k20 VTEC crossover is way louder and defined, at least it is on both my RSX Type-S's
B series is still the top choice because of the intake sound.
Lol nah the kseries crossover is definitely louder on the type s/r
Dc2 will always be my favorite.
I used to really dislike the dc5 chassis. I owned a few gsr’s in my 20’s. Two that were b18c5 swapped and one with a full jdm front clip swap. I was die hard dc2 until I drove a bolt on dc5r in Florida for a week on trip. It was love at first drive. With a full ohlins coil over setup on spoon wheels, a mild cam with springs, retainers and port and polishing, this thing sang to 9k and the added torque was a much appreciated addition. With only 250-ish hp, it was a backroad beast.
Now imagine 250hp dc2r
@@0222tomi In my country the DC2 is 1200kg and the DC5 1080kg stock.
I had a DC5 with Ohlins as well. (And older Hondas to compare)
It was pretty much perfect for a street setup.
Dc2 and Dc5 are race cars for the street, engine, chassis, gearbox, brakes, seats, etc, you just can't get anything like this unless you go Gt3 Porsche and crazy money...
Personally I like the look of the DC5 more. But never driven a Type R model. 😢😢😢
I would like to experience one of these DC5 - R models one day.
Anybody got stories to share of both platforms?
I used to own a DC5R....it just doesn't compare to the DC2R....it's so much more nimble & more fun to drive....I do believe the DC2R is lighter than the DC5R but the thing that makes the K20A special is that the engine itself is lighter than than B18C despite the increase in displacement.
but yet the DC5R beat the DC2 in every aspect in track test. Maybe your DC2 was a factory freak
@@4bangermafia i think dc2r is bit more raw, but everything else dc5r are miles better
I was kind of blown away by the DC5, simply how much further ahead it is than the RSX Type-S. It's a different league. The car just feels solid and nimble, you said it right.
@@4bangermafiaI am a current DC2R owner. DC5R is absolutely faster, Ive only driven a DC5 type S (the JDM spec Integra, not the RSX) so I havent got a perfect comparison to a DC5R, but I think its the rawness of the driving feel that makes the DC2 so revered, rather than the outright performance.
Driven and thrashed both to bits, yeah dc5 stock for stock is faster but it sure doesn't have the same feeling or emotion as the dc2r
I own both a 02 Integra Type S k24 turbo and a 2000 Integra DB7 and I love them. 2 totally different driving experiences to say the least but I love the simplicity and reliability of them. Great great cars!
Wish Honda would bring back their old high revving screamers 😢
Super awesome video! DC5 has captured the hearts of many people.
i love my 05 DC5 Type S. i yearn for a type R some day
Had both in the past and both were incredible
Dc2 for the chassis
Dc5 for the engine
Dc5 for the engine
Dc5 for the chassis
@@mattvang3439 🤣
@mattvang3439 yes sir own both getting rid of the dc4
The DC5R is my favorite as I’ve owned 2 tax’s just like the way they look just sucks how much more time and effort goes into them for handling but it’s a great daily
Owned both, a blue DC5 (c-pack blue seats) and a 98 spec DC2 in CW. Miss the hell out of both of them.
Damn! those are tremendous beautiful badass machines!
the dc2 is the better chasis but the dc5 is the better engine
dc2's sound iconic, but the dc5 can sound unique with the k24 frank setups
ideally, both; if you can only get one, get the one you can since theyre becoming more and more rare to find in decent condition
Dc5 looks timeless
Yeah the Dc5 is one of the best looking Honda's ever made imo.
Depends, bone stock it's pretty average but full Mugen kit sure is
Front headlights are horrible
DC2 is better, more race focused car then the dc5 that is rare but only right hand drive
Is* timeless on the outside at least inside will show you it’s age
Live in the UK and own a Dc5 type r its been garaged since 2018 due to my financial situation, i was never going to sell it 😅 this summer its finally coming out again to be used and shown the love it deserves cant wait 😁
great video , on point 👍 i hope the new 2023 integra type s/r comes with 2 doors , lsd , and a 6 speed manual, good old recaros and get rid of sat nav and dual climate suff and..... ,. would be nice hopefully it happens
This is exactly what I said in my 2023 Integra review.. New Civic Type-R engine with all of the above you mentioned.. would be lovely.
While I've driven both (in the UK), the DC5 is a much better looking car IMO
When the RSX came out, I did a direct comparison with my DC2. The RSX was longer, taller, and narrower. The car was not as fun to drive as the DC2. The engine/trans do have more potential, but it's definitely not as rewarding to drive as the DC2 in stock form.
How is Honda able to do this? Because that’s what Honda does 😎
Honda really need to revive the Integra type R
Dc5 owner here and I have to admit, the Dc2 is a better chassis. But, the Dc5's K20A is leaps and bounds ahead of the B18C. Not to say I don't love the sound of the B series' crossover into Vtec, but I prefer the K20. Dc5 with a few simple mods is a far better car, I'd only get a Dc2 to dump a K24 into it. Looks wise I think both look incredible for their time but the Dc5 still looks very modern to me. Peace!
The 05-06 rsx-s is the closest to the type R variant. The k20z1 shares most its parts with the K20a-R aside from compression differences. The Type R also had factory tune for 100+ octane gas. One of my goals is to install the Type R suspension brembos and wheels on my 06 type s.
RSX isn't even close to a Type R, keep dreaming
@@duddy2209 It's really a matter of opinion. The drivetrains are extremely close, separated primarily by an LSD and $300 Hondata reflash (there is an insignificant 10HP difference stock as it is). ~220 pounds of weight separation with lots of subtle changes. What's not close would be a Tesla Plaid which would murder both of these econoboxes.
@@BossItUp911 completely ignoring differences in suspension setup and geometry, the feel of the higher compression engine and the rigidity of the chassis
@@duddy2209 11.0 to 11.5 difference compression is trivial - when the cams, springs, and heads are identical. You just have a really weird definition of "not even close" in my opinion.
@@BossItUp911 Drive both at the limit and tell me which one outperforms which.
I own a 92 civic eg with the B18C. All original Cali car too. I wouldn't trade this beauty for the world. K motors will always be king. No doubt. But the B series is what made Honda performing cars today. And nothing beats revving to 9K. 9KALLTHEWAY!
Ep3 civic is just as much fun. Fn2 same.
If it's type R it's fun.
Neither of those compare to a DC2/DC5.
I wont both of these so bad! Classics!!!!
I'm not sure the S2000 is considered a lagend.. but I dont think its less legendary than the integra.. so nah I'd say the S2000 was the last Legend from honda
Yea right
The FD2r is the last great N/A Vtec. If you know you know...
she said her car its imported, i live in the states and i have a 2003 rsx base model and was made in japan , i notice going to the yunk jard , that most of the hondas or acuras there are made in the states , its weird maybe the quality of production its better in japan or the materials, definitely acura integras in the 90s were the best engine and they turn the DC5 into a basic car , and the civic and other hondas and acuras with a better engine k204 and DC5 base model k203 even a honda civic with more powerfull engine , thanks for the video im from MEXICO but i have some canadians friend who are the best.
You're right, we are the best.
We need a K Swapped CRZ vs DC5r review!
DC5 is like an Golf to drive, cumfy and rafined, power commes progressively, DC2 is race car for the street homologation car, has violent cross over and lighter, all suspension are double wishbone witch is way better then standar Mcpherson suspension used by Golf or cumfy cars
Gotta love Hondas. Dc5 ftw!!
Tested drive this 2 bad boys,
DC5: Great power, higher torque, but handling, balance, cornering wise wasn’t so good UNLESS you invest lots of money in it.
DC2: B series VTEC kick a lot stronger than K series, power of course not as good as DC5 but still pretty competitive. Handling, balance and cornering better than DC5.
NA, 8400 rpm, manual, where do you get that? S2000. And it's RWD with 9000rpm. I know it's in the Honda family but still.
Hell nooo.. they made the Accord Type R (ch1) and then the Accord Euro R (Cl7) and also the Honda Civic Type R (Fd2r)
I’d say the s2000 is the last legendary NA Honda. Type R is great. S2000 is greatest
Nsxr > s2k 😅
Not
So who’s going to snap up the DDE Integra at August Motors in Kelowna ?
Love it!
The Type S in my opinion is kinda in a weird place, its not too comforting and also has essentially what the 2023 CTR.
So, her main appeal is the attention? Got it
Dc2 any day, much nimble and lighter. 5 look abit like bread van with a tail
Yes. 👍🏾💯
The reason the DC2 vtec pops louder is actually a bad reason; because of the difference in cam profile. The K20 being a better engine with more tq because its not as weak as the B18 outside of VTEC. The VTEC pop is a nice sound but it actually is not desired if you want your engine to make the most power it can. As it gets tuned properly for power that VTEC pop shouldn't be as audible; you want a smooth transition to VTEC.
Dc5 bumper fitment is killing me.
review a 4th gen prelude!
This DC2 needs a better exhaust asap
Nobody in the import scene stateside rocked with the RSX when it came out. Too expensive to buy, no aftermarket support, and the aftermarket parts available carried a huge premium due to the fact the car came from Honda's luxury brand Acura.
A slow burn into greatness I suppose. But then again, I feel more often than not the engines are just pulled and swapped into anything and everything else
It was a great car in its day,I used to own one .
The FD2R gains that title sir.
Owned both cars here in the UK, both tuned somewhat. I'd own another DC2 in a heartbeat. DC5...meh in comparison.
Excellent taste gal
No. It wasn't the last.
Honda also built the FD2 Type-R.
the owner of the DC5 type r please marry me!!!!
what are their IG's? i couldn't understand when they were talking
elltegra
In the description! :D My apologies for the wind/audio noise
@@RoadsUntraveled no the audio was good they just didn’t spell it out so I was not able to find it searching
He said civic type r look 😂
The DC2 is aging so much better than the DC5.
Nice
my rsx type s weight is 3030lbs
LETS GOOOOo
i hate how they look but the 8th gen si is the last greatest na honda made tbh
I guess you've never driven an '04 Honda Pilot...😌
This made me laugh
and you also forgot the Honda s2000
Honda made the s2000 until 2009 and finished with the s2000........so no, the Integra was not the last great NA car Honda made
Jdm Smokeshow
NO. FD2 TYPE R IS THE BEST
Nah bro, the new integra its a over stylized SUV, the sad truth its that this kind of car are no coming back, so get them while you can
DC5 all day
96 Integra Shell 391000km bid up to 543000yen in Japan yesterday
No love for FN2 Type R 😔
The FN2 is irrelevant in this video though, it’s about the Integra’s not the Civic’s.
nah, thats glorified honda fit with k20
Cooler Honda hats avail but whatever 🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢🫢
To answer ia NO
No. It was FN2.
to this day i still dont like the design of the DC5 it looks nothing likes it's predecessor the DC2 the DA9 and the DA1 i don't care what anyone says
😂And the latest model is even more detached
S2000 was the last N/A Honda lol
No it wasn’t, the FN2 Civic Type R is because it was still in production a year after the S2000 and a few months after the FD2 Type R. There’s been many other N/A Honda’s after the S2000 😂
Erm... There are plenty N/A Honda still available around, even newer models.
HUHHHHHHHHH
No. The s2000 was.
No it wasn’t. The FD2 and FN2 Type R’s were still in production a year after the S2000 finished…
No it was s200 is garbage!
@@mikenike47762000
So are they boyfriend and girlfriend?
Not in a million years.
I prefer the DC5.
The new car is a pile of 💩. Acura and the design team failed big time, it's sacrilegious to even call that ilx an integra.
It’s Honda clown
Just to open up your mind. Ferrari's at a time put out more horsepower per liter than Honda did.
👎 🤣
@mikenike4776 guess he doesn't know
Dont mind him boys 😂
S2000* was the last
Nope. You’re wrong, the FN2 Civic Type R was the last one. It was in production until the end of 2010 which was a year longer than the S2000 was and a few months after the FD2 Type R.
First 😂
didn't see your new integra review, but it is a pos. it looks like a chevy malibu. with a motor worse than a chevy malibu. that has internals weaker than a honda d16 (rod bolts, rods, etc.). the car is hot trash.
DELETE this Video. do R34 * Supra with GR Corrolla
Honda fans & their leaf blower engines. 50 less Horsepower than 1000cc motorcycles. Lol. 🤣
Horsepower isn’t everything man
I would still prefer a clean DC2 Integra Type R than a single cam pushrod Corvette from the same era 🤣
@@gavinr9107 That intergra is from about 1992. My Z06 is 20-25 years newer than you're thinking it is.
Tell me how great, in memory, and easy to maintain your vette is some 30 years after its inception and over 150k miles on the body.
And how accessible is over 200hp on the street without an above-average level of driving skill? Even on a track, if you’re not breaking 100mph enough, I would likely chase you down with half the power.
@@gsxr1189 The Integra is from the year 2000, but close enough
DC5 girl is way chill. Good taste.
0:25 a lot of people think Acura missed the point with the new Integra 😂🤣we're not wrong
It’s a Honda clown
Too sad
Honda bosses ruined all the sporty legacy after 2005 year... F***ng marketologists
Are RSX called integra in other countries?
probably would never still put an integra badge on my 04 rsx-type S
Yes. Everywhere but North America the RSX is an Integra.
Its called honda integra in japan america its called acura integra/RSX
I have a 2011 civic si coupe. It's the last great car honda has made.
no it's not