I own Focal Bathys and they sound superb. I just ordered Dali iO 12 just to compare the sound quality. Being delivered on Monday so we'll see. It's either make or break for Focals
I really hope these sound the same when in passive mode, cause IO-6 sound very poor in passive mode with power turned off (which you don't expect from passive mode). Also, non-circle shape of the cushions will be really appreciated, IO-6 makes pressure on the ears bottom! Unfortunately, nothing was said about bluetooth multipoint support, and absence of that will be very annoying.
A 999 EUR headphone that is assumed to be bug-free, in terms of software, with an internal sealed battery. Let's highlight these points. 1st Point: Companies with much more experience in wireless ANC headphones (e.g. Sennheiser, Sony, Bang & Olufsen) must still correct issues, or improve their software, through firmware updates. Cutting the possibility to improve the software in a product that relies heavily on it is cocky and unwise. 2nd Point: A wireless product that does not allow easy battery replacement is, in my opinion, a disposable product. Even if you can still use them wired, the wireless tech you paid for (plus ANC) won't be there once the battery degrades. The solution is simple: allow users to replace batteries and offer the original batteries in your catalogue. Extra Point: No aptX Lossless support for 999 EUR? I would expect this from all upcoming "Hi-Fi Wireless" headphones at this price.
With the iO-6 it was possible to update them via a USB cable on Dali's website. So your first point is kinda invalid. I know it's not as easy as just updating via an app, but from my perspective it is such a nice feature to not have an app for every single product. I know many products (with apps) that still do not function very well. Regarding your second point, how many other retailers of headphones offer replaceable batteries? Not that many. I've had my iO6's for two years, and I still haven't experienced any sign of battery loss.
@@jesp9435 Cool to know about the possibility of updating the software nevertheless. Regarding being able to replace the battery on your €1K headphones, I think it's a must. There are cheaper wired headphones that sound fantastic (better than any Bluetooth headphone) and last your whole life. It's fine to have convenient, good disposable headphones for home and street use, but not for €1K. At this price, I expect my investment to last, not disappear.
@@jesp94352 years isn’t exactly very long either, so I think your point is kinda invalid, usually lithium batteries doesn’t even start to degrade before the 2-3 year mark, depending on usages🤔
I want to listen to those so badly.
Very nice, seems to be the headphones for me. Do you know how much they weigh?
No official details on weight yet. But when I tried them on at the Munich show, they didn't feel much heavier than the current iO6 headphones.
With no app,, how would they be updated?
Hello. When is the release?
Fall 2023
It looks extremely comfortable. The earcups looks wide and deep. But looks can be deceiving.
I own Focal Bathys and they sound superb. I just ordered Dali iO 12 just to compare the sound quality. Being delivered on Monday so we'll see. It's either make or break for Focals
Which headphone was better?
@PerfectExsneeder dali sounds better.
I really hope these sound the same when in passive mode, cause IO-6 sound very poor in passive mode with power turned off (which you don't expect from passive mode). Also, non-circle shape of the cushions will be really appreciated, IO-6 makes pressure on the ears bottom! Unfortunately, nothing was said about bluetooth multipoint support, and absence of that will be very annoying.
A 999 EUR headphone that is assumed to be bug-free, in terms of software, with an internal sealed battery. Let's highlight these points.
1st Point: Companies with much more experience in wireless ANC headphones (e.g. Sennheiser, Sony, Bang & Olufsen) must still correct issues, or improve their software, through firmware updates. Cutting the possibility to improve the software in a product that relies heavily on it is cocky and unwise.
2nd Point: A wireless product that does not allow easy battery replacement is, in my opinion, a disposable product. Even if you can still use them wired, the wireless tech you paid for (plus ANC) won't be there once the battery degrades. The solution is simple: allow users to replace batteries and offer the original batteries in your catalogue.
Extra Point: No aptX Lossless support for 999 EUR? I would expect this from all upcoming "Hi-Fi Wireless" headphones at this price.
With the iO-6 it was possible to update them via a USB cable on Dali's website. So your first point is kinda invalid. I know it's not as easy as just updating via an app, but from my perspective it is such a nice feature to not have an app for every single product. I know many products (with apps) that still do not function very well.
Regarding your second point, how many other retailers of headphones offer replaceable batteries? Not that many. I've had my iO6's for two years, and I still haven't experienced any sign of battery loss.
@@jesp9435 Cool to know about the possibility of updating the software nevertheless. Regarding being able to replace the battery on your €1K headphones, I think it's a must. There are cheaper wired headphones that sound fantastic (better than any Bluetooth headphone) and last your whole life. It's fine to have convenient, good disposable headphones for home and street use, but not for €1K. At this price, I expect my investment to last, not disappear.
@@jesp94352 years isn’t exactly very long either, so I think your point is kinda invalid, usually lithium batteries doesn’t even start to degrade before the 2-3 year mark, depending on usages🤔
Chewing gum? Really? Doesn’t look very professional. Very nice headphone though:)