I inherited a Miele White Pearl that had been stored in a damp garage unused for over 10 years, used it to clean my house (including loads of concrete dust as it was a new build). Then I found the bag was completely split and the dirt was being blown all over the insides of the machine. The motor protection filter was also missing, so concrete dust was being sucked right into the motor. I cleaned the dust from the insides and replaced the bag and filter. It's worked perfectly ever since. So those saying that this hack to re-use bags will somehow kill their machine is just talking nonsense. Mine has been through far far worse and it's totally fine. They're built like tanks. Great video BTW - I'll try this.
Built like tanks, yes. There are many types of high-pressure clips that can be used to re-seal the vacuum bag - I use the bull-dog clips. Been doing it for years.
I'm a cheapskate: I even re-use the paper bags, as well as the fabric ones. I just empty them out through the existing hole - a slightly dusty job - give them a few gentle bangs to dislodge the dust, then shake and vacuum them. My Miele Cat&Dog has lasted well over 20 years and is still going strong....
All you have to do is carefully vacuum the bag out using another vacuum, try to keep the bag expanded while vacuuming. I use my tristar or a shop vacuum which is easy dump and I don't have to toss the bag on the tristar. You don't have to get it all, just 80 or 90 percent, so you can reuse. Then there is no cutting or opening of the bag and the miele bag retains 100percent of its structure.
at first i thought this was brilliant, the cut was strategical and good choice furthest from motor, not worried about leaking if i use strong duct tape, BUT the issue is the fine dust that already exists on the inner walls of the bag afte the first use !! Fine you remove the bulk, 99% of the dust , but the layer of dust on the walls will get thicker and thicker. So basically Until the miele motor get;s a fresh bag, you said 1 year of 5 reuses, that means practically, it;s like it running on full bag because if that layer i talked about for a year, the motor will have to work harder.
I've always found it odd, why on earth we cannot buy a bag with a zipper or velcro or something, so it can be emptied. I dont even care about the expensive, its more about the whole single use throw away. Nothing should ever be single use. It's a horrible mentality.
Nothing gets done unless it makes a lot of money . A reusable bag would sell 1 or two per cleaner. A one use sells thousands and potentially gets recycled. This is the only reason reusable bags do not exist. Its like.. .if nothing ever wore out, on one would have a job making the next one.(of anything). But i do see your point!
Personally miele is the best Hoover weve had. I like the idea of cost cutting as the bags are expensive for what they are. I'm going to try this once mayb twice before putting in a new bag. The people commenting 3 years ago saying about the ruining the motor, I bet his miele is still running today. Built to last.
Geeze.... we are all allowed to disagree, but some of these comments are just rude and downright hateful to someone you do not even know, just sharing an idea he had. If you don’t agree, then don’t do it. ....SMH....
Thanx for your support, debbie. I'm fine with opposite opinions. In respect of abuse, well, I understand that anyone one who uses abuse has lost the argument and their comments should be treated as such.
Weeping Jesus! Are there truly so many people out there who lack an imagination? Okay, I tried the masking tape and it didn't work well for me. So then I used some tiny bull-dog clips and they did a marvelous job. Next, I tried using a common office stapler, and it worked well the first time but then it was hard removing the staples when it was time to empty out. As for the other filters, I simply washed them out in water, dried them on the line and they worked fine. By the way, there are plenty of other porous materials that serve just as well as filters, if you have a mind to try new things. In conclusion, I can only say FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES CHAPS (AND CHAPPETTES), before you start to winge about someone's idea that was given out for free to help you. Simple mechanics do not require the expertise of an engineer, just a creative mind. Thanks for pricking up your ears.
As long as you reseal the bag well you can do this once or twice... and it will not damage the vacuum. I bought my miele used on ebay, and am very comfortable with repairing it due to the vast availability of used miele parts... so yeah I reuse genuine bags instead of using generic bags. It works just fine!!
Miele vacuums are known for their very high-quality filtration system. Reusing the vacuum bag exposes you to the very dust that the bag is designed to keep away from you.
What a great idea! Thanks for sharing - I like how it's not about being cheap; it's about purchasing a great vacuum and then getting the most out of disposable items to reduce the pressure we create on landfills.
Victoria Rioux Don't listen to this airhead, NO it's NOT a good idea to re-use vacuum bags. Their pores are blocked during its first use and you can never recover its original efficiency no matter what you do! Even an aftermarket bag is better than re-using. You aren't saving money when you burn out your motor.
I think you're right. I was replacing my first bag recently and I took a look at how dirty it was and decided there's no way I can reuse it. If it looked like my shark bag (it was a very good vacuum btw, sadly replaced because the power head went and I couldn't get parts), I think that bag may have extra lives but not this one.
just break the cap/valve off.. fish it out if it falls in...you dont need it...its just to close off the dust when discarding the bag...its for the fussy ones who dont like seeing the dust..then pull out the dust with a tool tweezers,,thin plyers..put it back in and reuse bag..it wont hurt hoover without the cap..its just a bit messy emptying it...reuse bag verses buy new bag..its your choise. good luck.
You'll still burn out your motor. There is no way you can reseal that bag properly. These are for single use! It's very unhygienic. If your concerned with single use bags to buy a bagless vacuum. That's just ruining your miele. Performance Reviews knows his stuff.... He repairs vacuums daily. I think it's gross & it's terrible for your machine.
@@stever6697 I've been re-using the bags, both genuine and third-party, in my two Miele Cat'n'Dog vacuums for 30 years, via the manual/vacuum cleaner method, not the "cut it open" way shown here. They're still going strong AND I've never come across the noise that Mr Performance Reviews would you to believe is due to using non-genuine bags....
bad idea... you don't notice it at first but your motor is slowly gonna get louder over time as dust gets in there, and especially as larger grit makes it past the masking tape... which is a completely inadequate tape for attempting this. honestly you might be able to pull this off with some gorilla tape or whatever the strongest duct-tape-type stuff is that you can get, and while you're optimizing, don't cut the entire length of the bag. but bottom line is you paid top vacuum dollar for a machine that you're going to damage if you do this, and just subtly enough that you won't notice it until you've ruined your machine. how do you think i know.
Pay attention to ALL of your filters. Wash them, dry them, and replace them when they look worn out. Pay attention to the vacuum bag - if you re-use it don't forget to seal it properly with bull-dog clips or even some other type of strong clip. Rule of thumb: don't be lazy.
The whole reason I want a filtered bag system is so I specifically don't have to empty, look at, or touch in any way, what gets vacuumed up. I have a Dyson upright and I hate that vacuum for many reasons but one of the big reasons is the grossness of emptying that canister. YUCK. There are knockoff Miele bags that cost less but perform well. Buying a premium filtering vacuum that has a bag design then trying to reuse the bags seems counterproductive to me. Just buy a no-bag canister if that's what is wanted.
If I tried this, I would probably use duct tape to ensure better sticking. But I like the idea of using a canister vacuum to suck out the contents of the bag.
This is a good solution in a pinch - company coming, out of bags, do this. Use a strong duct tape to seal. However, I agree with the comments below that this is not a wise practice. The dirt will get out that ruin your vacuum. Reuse the bag once, perhaps and then put in a new one. At the very least, if you use this "reuse" hack you will double the use of expensive vacuum bags. Be extra careful of sharp particles that make be lurking within your dirt.
This bag is a filter so when it is full the filter capability is certainly full so you need to replace it! now you blow fine dust in your room and in your vaccuum cleaner motor!!
yes, I have a Vorwerk Folletto and the bags are very expensive, they do not even have to be full and it is time to change them, so you never have a full capacity, what I did was cut off the bottom and empty it out, I even washed and dried it out in the sun, then I put a velcro to close it up again, works fine, the bag is made of multiple filtering fabric, I thought it would fall apart when I washed it but it didn't
I knew I was an idiot to try this and now I wish I would have read the comments. Maybe this guy runs his machine on the slowest speed possible, but I tried this and the tape popped open. Blew dust all over the room. Hopefully I didn't ruin the motor. Do not try this. One of the stupider things I've done this year.
Thanx, everyone, for your considered remarks. I posit that finding the balance between a well-designed machine performing at its optimum and producing less landfill is a challenge worth considering all the time in our modern, consumer-based economies. I take on board the concerns expressed here about ruining the machine and voiding its warranty. There are several factors that inform my decision to continue to reuse the bags: i) I use a minimum of power to save energy use and wear and tear on the motor; ii) I purchased my Miele in January 2014, so it's over four years old and, therefore, the warranty has expired; iii) I would suggest a maximum of four uses, stretching the five if the bag is still in good condition; iv) The tape has never broken or come loose so that's not a problem of me; v) The price of the bags has increased, I bought a pack of four recently was A$26 or A$6.50 each, but I do see the point of buying even more in bulk. A pack of 16 is around A$74 or A$4.60 each. Non-genuine bags are even cheaperheaper, down to $3 per bag. However, the problem of landfill still exists if I don't reuse them. If you have any concerns about the reused bag not performing well enough for you, replace it. Simple as that. Even two or three uses is better than just one for the environment! :-)
Hi Gregory, I applaud you for your initiative and determination to protect the environment. However I don't think this method would be a good idea for other people generally as they may use their vacuum on max suction or use poorer quality tape (hence this method is not foolproof). It may also be worth taking into account the environmental impact of having to manufacture a new motor because the old one wore out due to contamination with larger debris should a person's cut/tape job be leaky. Finally, it should be noted that as the bag fills up with larger clumps of debris, the pores in the wall are also trapping microscopic debris. I read the bag has an efficiency of 75% at trapping ~0.3micron sized particles, which will still be there after you empty the bag. Saturated pores = higher airflow resistance which means the motor is working harder, getting hotter due to reduced airflow and therefore potentially shortening lifespan. My proposal would be to pull out the debris through the hole rather than cut the bag and not reuse it more than once or twice at most. More effectively, I would try and contact Miele and get them onto the R&D train of producing biodegradable bags
On balance, Becc C, I concur with your comments. A maximum of three uses per bag would probably be he best compromise for the average vacuumer. Our place is pretty spick and span so I'm only vacuuming up the ubiquitous dust and lint that as been with humankind since we started building permanent dwellings! I only ever use the machine at its two thirds power setting so I have little risk at burning out the motor. It's still as happy as Larry and doesn't look like biting the dust (excuse the pun) in the foreseeable future. Nevertheless, you raise good points about longevity and appropriately using the appliance, or any appliance for that matter, to extract out of it its full working life. I really like your idea about writing to Miele about the matter. I think you and I should start a worldwide campaign for them, and all disposable vacuum cleaner manufacturers, to lift their game and produce environmentally friendly bags. :-)
I think your video is awesome; your replies even better (not sure if some of them are genuine or satire or sarcasm, but they read well). Do it right and you will save money and help the environment. Keep up the good videos!
If you're thinking of doing this for environmental reasons think of this: Which is worse, a couple of full bags in a landfill or a couple of dead vacuum cleaners in a landfill? Never reuse bags. You'll put way to much strain on the motor (not to mention all the fine dust not being trapped by the bag anymore being sucked straight into the motor, damaging it in the long run and then blown straight out)
what I do is pull out the debris from the hole no cutting the bag I may do this twice with the bag been doing it for years without a hitch but cutting the bag is a little over the top.
Cheers mate Exactly what I was looking for I've been wondering if it could be done or not I was going to sew my bugger up but masking tape seems the go Awesome thank you
I feel like anybody who complains about this is a Miele chill. People use old t-shirts as vacuum bags and they work fine. The bags just act as a prefilter for the hepa filter anyway. The fan inside has a sealed bearing. Dust isn't gonna hurt it. Vacuum bags are like non refillable ink cartridges for printers. They exist to make money nothing more. The bagless version of this is twice the price for the same thing. Ask yourself why that is.
SO happy to see I am not the only one who realizes this is a horrible idea!!!! You may ge a pass to pull debris from the hole ONE time but no more and NEVER cut the bag!!! Save eletricity and jus use a broom!!!!
Hello, My question isn't this method unsafe for the cleaner's motor, if the bag gets opened? Has it happened to you? I bought yesterday a Miele vacuum cleaner for 300 euro (~330 USD) and I'm not sure if I want to risk causing fire or destroying the cleaner using this method!
I've never has any problem with the motor. As far as the machine is concerned, there's just a standard bag installed. The tape is underneath the front of the bag at the furthest point from the exhaust outlet, nowhere near the motor. That's also the point of least air suction. The tape has never come off either. As I mentioned in original post, it's probably advisable to only use a bag a total of five times as I'd imagine that the efficiency of the filtering may have been reduced somewhat by that stage. :-)
PolicemanxXx you will void your 7yr motor warranty if you use aftermarket parts or alter any part on the machine. You can empty the bag after ever use if you want, but you'll never remove the fine bits that stick to the sides and between the layers and your motor WILL be overworking every time you turn the machine on. A bag should last you at least 2-3 months, so you're only spending about $20-30/yr. Your Miele will last you 20 years or more if you follow the basic maintenance instructions which is basically change your bag and filter on time.
What is the purpose of the ribbons in the bag? I actually thought Miele may have put them there on purpose to make it really difficult to clean out the bag from the opening. I tried this already after my friends bag got full and they had no replacement bags, it was almost impossible to empty it through the hole, then I started ripping some of the ribbons and it made it much easier to empty it through the hole and I was thinking their only purpose was to make it hard to empty the bag :o ??
VanTasks the ribbons are there to help with evenly dust loading the bag, don't even think about trying to save a few dollars by attempting to reuse the bag. If you reuse them you're just looking at a pricy blown motor replacement.
You really are looking to repair shop for Miele vacuum it damages the unit and also can dirty up the cord reel very expensive cost to save just $5 per bag
Meile vacuum cleaners really are good, if your not careful they can suck bits out your carpet ! ( Just kidding ) 😊 I did once empty the cak out of the hole itself, it is a very dusty and dirty job ! The reason that I have to re use this time is because I cannot find meile bags in any of the likely shops, Wilkie's used to have them but haven't had them for a very long time, used to be able to get them on the local market but I haven't seen that guy in well over a year, I never could imagine how that guy ever made a living, still, it looks like an online job then, 💨 😁👍
Great idea. You could buy a plastic strip from Godfreys so you can re use the bags. You just fold the bag end over and slide the clip over the opening to seal it.
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Not recommended. If the bag pops open the contents may damage the motor. Don't cheap out on bags for an expensive Miele vacuum cleaner. Miele bags are among the best in the world because of their filtration.
Thanks for sharing this!! We were given a Miele and I have always hated that in this day and age, they only make 1 use bags!! My next idea is to sew a truly reusable bag.
Thanx for your reply, N Thomas. My machine is functioning perfectly with my bag reuse practice. One needs to exercise common sense in how many times to reuse them, depending on how dirty they are. :-)
I would NEVER recommend doing this to any vacuum cleaner, especially a Miele. Miele's are the most respected and reliable vacuum cleaners in the industry. By reusing the bags not only are you putting strain on the motor, decreasing cleaning effectiveness and ruining your HEPA filter.... but, if you were to experience a premature motor failure, the moment a technician saw that you were reusing bags, your warranty would be void and you would be financially responsible for the repair. Awful.
Even if you're a millionaire, why pay for something if you don't have to? If you are clever, you can make your own recyclable bags, or you can use the default bag up to 100 times by slicing it open, emptying the rubbish, and then using bull-dog clips (or other type of clips) to re-seal the bag.
@@mart150870 I’d buy a bagless vacuum in that case or a bagged vacuum that uses cheaper bags. Most importantly, I don’t want to bout unnecessary strain on the motor. The bags are single-use for a reason.
@@mart150870reuse is a bad idea, the bags are specifically designed to filter the air coming through it, eventually with more reuse the bag will eventually clog up. Not to mention the possibility of damaging a very expensive motor with loose dirt coming out of a cut bag.
Anyone watching this thinking it's a good idea - don't. Miele bags are specifically designed to filter dirt so it doesn't get in the motor. Don't spend 1000 dollars on a vacuum only to destroy it. If you don't want to buy bags, then buy a bagless vacuum.
There are certain things that should never be reused. Perhaps gently brooming the floor or using a carpet sweeper to get up the gross dirt first. Then vacuum up the finer particles. This will stretch out your bag changes. Five bucks is not much in this economy. Please reconsider.
My machine is functioning perfectly with my bag reuse practice. One needs to exercise common sense in how many times to reuse them, depending on how dirty they are. :-)
The main reason is to reduce non-biodegradable, single use waste from entering landfill. By using one five times, that's an 80% reduction in landfill waste. I reckon that's worth it. :-)
Can you get the stink out, or that doesn't bother you, dirt rots and then stinks, fact, and also by reusing the bag you will have a free air scent that will be spread all around the house
You can get the stink out by either washing and drying the original bag, or by making your own bag (if you are clever enough). I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to do such a simple DIY job.
Thanks for the video. I would like to make a reusable, and washable GN bag out of some material similar to the Dyson filter. At the end where the air flows to, a clip similar to Osprey's water bag to keep it closed and easily open. someone steal my idea!
its been done in the "olden days" i remember a slide on long thin clip, you slid the clip off the bottom of the bag allowing the dust out, then folded the bottom over a few times and slid the clip back on and reused it until the bag wore out. It doesn't exist now (taken off the market so we all buy more bags).. i.e more money for them. PLUS Bag less hoovers came along ~and halved the sales and inventions and interest in bagged hoovers.
why dont you just push the cap /valve in..(it wont break) hold it in, and pull out the dirt/fluff, and reuse.! ..if you're really that tight why would you have a replaceable bag hoover in the first place?
@Ed i dont think it matters broke or not...cap only closes of dust when taking out bat and disposing of it, in in this case , emptying and putting back. just fish it out and carry on as you were
@Ed The cap is not needed.. its for the fussy ones who want the dust to close off when the bag comes out for disposal. But in "our" case it doesnt matter as we are fishing about in the dust to reuse the bag. just get the broke off cap out and discard it and replace/reuse the bag.
Yep! This has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen. Why buy an expensive vacuum and then completely sabotage the entire system just to save a few dollars each year? Put it in perspective...I use about 6 bags/yr which is about $30 total. They're not that expensive considering that they hold around 20 lbs of debris and even with my house full of fur and hair that goes about 2 months for each bag.
Tam T You don't know what you're talking about. The fine dirt you pick up, saw dust, spilled powder, powdered kitty litter etc clogs the pores of the bag, making the bag sensor sense that the bag is full because the motor is working harder. A harder working motor produces more heat (feel the exhaust). Excessive heat will eventually lead to MOTOR BURN OUT! Now Tammie, what's THAT worth to you? Don't be a gullible gurl!
please DON'T, cost of vacuum and repairs to motor out weigh the cost of replacement vacuum bags even if you go aftermarket. why didn't you buy bagless vacuum? $0.00 after sales cost other than electricity.
I think you could save more than $20 per year. But the greatest benefit lies in knowing that you have cut some corners that needed cutting and you can share this idea with the world. I don't believe in wanton extravagance - or spending money freely without considering the alternatives.
Ah ha! I think I've found a hole in you argument. It presumes an eternity of never ending use of this vacuum cleaner. I would actually be using one fifth of the bags over the 20 year life span of the machine,. Therefore I would indeed be saving 80% on pollution as well as costs. :-)
Bad advice!!! Do NOT ever reuse ANY vacuum bag as the fine particles coat and clog the pores of the bag which in turn reduces suction, airflow to the motor, and filtration capabilities. What is the point of purchasing a premium vacuum that can last 20+ years and then do something that not only will void the warranty, but will greatly reduce the life of the motor? If you're that cheap, just buy a bagless junk vacuum. So once again. ...BAD ADVICE!! Doing this will VOID your warranty!
katylady1981 Never ever do this/that... The world is black and white and nothing in between... Well, in the real world, we make choices regardless of what a manufacturer might advise. He did mention that his machine is already out of warranty. It also depends on the nature of what you are vacuuming. For example, I never reuse hepa bags that I use on cleaning fine toner powder. In other words, KNOWING exactly what kind of stuff you’re filling the bag with will allow you to gauge whether the bag can still be reused. Further, the surface area of the bag is quite large and it is unlikely under normal house circumstances that you clog enough of the pores to cut off air flow completely. Owning a vacuum gauge and a particle counter makes sense whether you choose to reuse bags. And frequent visual inspections of the status of your bags and filters... honestly there are a number of wise steps that can be done to avoid disaster. Using genuine Miele bags is never a 100% full proof way of avoiding destroying your machine.
This is so ghetto , why spend money on a premium vacuum only to be stingy with vacuum bags. It’s like buying a Mercedes and filling it with vegetable oil.
The bags are a money grab by Miele. They could easily add a zipper and overlapping velcro (to prevent dust escaping), but they don't. And the idea that the bags won't filter as well if emptied is complete BS. Furthermore, the bags are SMALL, and having to constantly use new bags is environmentally disingenuous on Miele's part. Miele knows this and they don't care. It's all about selling more stuff.
The main reason is to reduce non-biodegradable, single use waste from entering landfill. By using one five times, that's an 80% reduction in landfill waste. I reckon that's worth it. :-)
The bagless vacuums don't work that well, and the Miele cat and dog hair vac is the best one for suction I've found anywhere, but investing in something that does the job properly doesn't mean you want to waste money on shit you dont have to. Espically when you didn't realize how much continuous costs were involved when purchasing it. My old vac had a reusable bag which was great, but they don't make it anymore.
Cairo Anderson this isn’t your old vacuum. Over time your Miele will slowly start overheating and the motor will seize up. False economy when you destroy your machine making it end up in the land fill. Just get a bag less cleaner and wash the filters.
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I inherited a Miele White Pearl that had been stored in a damp garage unused for over 10 years, used it to clean my house (including loads of concrete dust as it was a new build). Then I found the bag was completely split and the dirt was being blown all over the insides of the machine. The motor protection filter was also missing, so concrete dust was being sucked right into the motor.
I cleaned the dust from the insides and replaced the bag and filter. It's worked perfectly ever since.
So those saying that this hack to re-use bags will somehow kill their machine is just talking nonsense. Mine has been through far far worse and it's totally fine. They're built like tanks.
Great video BTW - I'll try this.
Built like tanks, yes. There are many types of high-pressure clips that can be used to re-seal the vacuum bag - I use the bull-dog clips. Been doing it for years.
I'm a cheapskate: I even re-use the paper bags, as well as the fabric ones. I just empty them out through the existing hole - a slightly dusty job - give them a few gentle bangs to dislodge the dust, then shake and vacuum them. My Miele Cat&Dog has lasted well over 20 years and is still going strong....
All you have to do is carefully vacuum the bag out using another vacuum, try to keep the bag expanded while vacuuming. I use my tristar or a shop vacuum which is easy dump and I don't have to toss the bag on the tristar. You don't have to get it all, just 80 or 90 percent, so you can reuse. Then there is no cutting or opening of the bag and the miele bag retains 100percent of its structure.
at first i thought this was brilliant, the cut was strategical and good choice furthest from motor, not worried about leaking if i use strong duct tape, BUT the issue is the fine dust that already exists on the inner walls of the bag afte the first use !! Fine you remove the bulk, 99% of the dust , but the layer of dust on the walls will get thicker and thicker. So basically Until the miele motor get;s a fresh bag, you said 1 year of 5 reuses, that means practically, it;s like it running on full bag because if that layer i talked about for a year, the motor will have to work harder.
I've always found it odd, why on earth we cannot buy a bag with a zipper or velcro or something, so it can be emptied. I dont even care about the expensive, its more about the whole single use throw away. Nothing should ever be single use. It's a horrible mentality.
Nothing gets done unless it makes a lot of money . A reusable bag would sell 1 or two per cleaner. A one use sells thousands and potentially gets recycled. This is the only reason reusable bags do not exist. Its like.. .if nothing ever wore out, on one would have a job making the next one.(of anything). But i do see your point!
You also can't remove the fine dust that is embedded in the fibers of the bag. This puts more strain on the motor.
I agree with u I wouldn’t even try this as wen ur bag is full it could burst out and ur motor is gone what da cost then lol a new Hoover
Great video. I usually take the dust out of the bag via the opening. Takes about 5 minutes. I reuse the Miele bags 5 to 7 times. Great recycling.
Personally miele is the best Hoover weve had. I like the idea of cost cutting as the bags are expensive for what they are. I'm going to try this once mayb twice before putting in a new bag. The people commenting 3 years ago saying about the ruining the motor, I bet his miele is still running today. Built to last.
Geeze.... we are all allowed to disagree, but some of these comments are just rude and downright hateful to someone you do not even know, just sharing an idea he had. If you don’t agree, then don’t do it. ....SMH....
Thanx for your support, debbie. I'm fine with opposite opinions. In respect of abuse, well, I understand that anyone one who uses abuse has lost the argument and their comments should be treated as such.
Gregory Olsen
You know.... you’re correct.
I like that way of thinking.
Weeping Jesus! Are there truly so many people out there who lack an imagination? Okay, I tried the masking tape and it didn't work well for me. So then I used some tiny bull-dog clips and they did a marvelous job. Next, I tried using a common office stapler, and it worked well the first time but then it was hard removing the staples when it was time to empty out. As for the other filters, I simply washed them out in water, dried them on the line and they worked fine. By the way, there are plenty of other porous materials that serve just as well as filters, if you have a mind to try new things. In conclusion, I can only say FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES CHAPS (AND CHAPPETTES), before you start to winge about someone's idea that was given out for free to help you. Simple mechanics do not require the expertise of an engineer, just a creative mind. Thanks for pricking up your ears.
As long as you reseal the bag well you can do this once or twice... and it will not damage the vacuum. I bought my miele used on ebay, and am very comfortable with repairing it due to the vast availability of used miele parts... so yeah I reuse genuine bags instead of using generic bags. It works just fine!!
Miele vacuums are known for their very high-quality filtration system. Reusing the vacuum bag exposes you to the very dust that the bag is designed to keep away from you.
Most helpful indeed! The bags are about $15/3 here in Colorado. Now I'm going to re-use. Thanks for posting.
What a great idea! Thanks for sharing - I like how it's not about being cheap; it's about purchasing a great vacuum and then getting the most out of disposable items to reduce the pressure we create on landfills.
Victoria Rioux Don't listen to this airhead, NO it's NOT a good idea to re-use vacuum bags. Their pores are blocked during its first use and you can never recover its original efficiency no matter what you do! Even an aftermarket bag is better than re-using. You aren't saving money when you burn out your motor.
I think you're right. I was replacing my first bag recently and I took a look at how dirty it was and decided there's no way I can reuse it. If it looked like my shark bag (it was a very good vacuum btw, sadly replaced because the power head went and I couldn't get parts), I think that bag may have extra lives but not this one.
Thanx Victoria! :-)
We must do with what we feel comfortable, Victoria. :-)
just break the cap/valve off.. fish it out if it falls in...you dont need it...its just to close off the dust when discarding the bag...its for the fussy ones who dont like seeing the dust..then pull out the dust with a tool tweezers,,thin plyers..put it back in and reuse bag..it wont hurt hoover without the cap..its just a bit messy emptying it...reuse bag verses buy new bag..its your choise. good luck.
Great UNTIL that masking tape pops loose and you pull a bag full of dirt straight into the motor, and then clog up the $50 HEPA filter behind it.
You should title "how to void your warranty and burn out your motor"!
I'm already way beyond the warranty period and have never had a problem. :-)
You'll still burn out your motor. There is no way you can reseal that bag properly. These are for single use! It's very unhygienic. If your concerned with single use bags to buy a bagless vacuum. That's just ruining your miele. Performance Reviews knows his stuff.... He repairs vacuums daily. I think it's gross & it's terrible for your machine.
@@stever6697 I've been re-using the bags, both genuine and third-party, in my two Miele Cat'n'Dog vacuums for 30 years, via the manual/vacuum cleaner method, not the "cut it open" way shown here. They're still going strong AND I've never come across the noise that Mr Performance Reviews would you to believe is due to using non-genuine bags....
bad idea... you don't notice it at first but your motor is slowly gonna get louder over time as dust gets in there, and especially as larger grit makes it past the masking tape... which is a completely inadequate tape for attempting this. honestly you might be able to pull this off with some gorilla tape or whatever the strongest duct-tape-type stuff is that you can get, and while you're optimizing, don't cut the entire length of the bag. but bottom line is you paid top vacuum dollar for a machine that you're going to damage if you do this, and just subtly enough that you won't notice it until you've ruined your machine. how do you think i know.
Pay attention to ALL of your filters. Wash them, dry them, and replace them when they look worn out. Pay attention to the vacuum bag - if you re-use it don't forget to seal it properly with bull-dog clips or even some other type of strong clip. Rule of thumb: don't be lazy.
The whole reason I want a filtered bag system is so I specifically don't have to empty, look at, or touch in any way, what gets vacuumed up. I have a Dyson upright and I hate that vacuum for many reasons but one of the big reasons is the grossness of emptying that canister. YUCK. There are knockoff Miele bags that cost less but perform well. Buying a premium filtering vacuum that has a bag design then trying to reuse the bags seems counterproductive to me. Just buy a no-bag canister if that's what is wanted.
If I tried this, I would probably use duct tape to ensure better sticking. But I like the idea of using a canister vacuum to suck out the contents of the bag.
This is a good solution in a pinch - company coming, out of bags, do this. Use a strong duct tape to seal. However, I agree with the comments below that this is not a wise practice. The dirt will get out that ruin your vacuum. Reuse the bag once, perhaps and then put in a new one. At the very least, if you use this "reuse" hack you will double the use of expensive vacuum bags. Be extra careful of sharp particles that make be lurking within your dirt.
This bag is a filter so when it is full the filter capability is certainly full so you need to replace it! now you blow fine dust in your room and in your vaccuum cleaner motor!!
If you want save on bags, why you choose to buy this vacume in the first step?
Bagged vacuums are a huge step up in quality from bagless. You can't get the same amount of suction in a bagless, no matter how good.
I have been doing this for years with another brand, the motor never broke and it has been working just fine
arrivagabry
Is that other brand Numatic??
yes, I have a Vorwerk Folletto and the bags are very expensive, they do not even have to be full and it is time to change them, so you never have a full capacity, what I did was cut off the bottom and empty it out, I even washed and dried it out in the sun, then I put a velcro to close it up again, works fine, the bag is made of multiple filtering fabric, I thought it would fall apart when I washed it but it didn't
arrivagabry
The Numatic bags are very cheap they are like £6.99 for 10 bags
That's £0.69 per bag
but I live in Italy so we don't have those bags here :-(
arrivagabry
Do you have a Numatic Vacuum??
I knew I was an idiot to try this and now I wish I would have read the comments. Maybe this guy runs his machine on the slowest speed possible, but I tried this and the tape popped open. Blew dust all over the room. Hopefully I didn't ruin the motor. Do not try this. One of the stupider things I've done this year.
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Thanx, everyone, for your considered remarks. I posit that finding the balance between a well-designed machine performing at its optimum and producing less landfill is a challenge worth considering all the time in our modern, consumer-based economies. I take on board the concerns expressed here about ruining the machine and voiding its warranty.
There are several factors that inform my decision to continue to reuse the bags:
i) I use a minimum of power to save energy use and wear and tear on the motor;
ii) I purchased my Miele in January 2014, so it's over four years old and, therefore, the warranty has expired;
iii) I would suggest a maximum of four uses, stretching the five if the bag is still in good condition;
iv) The tape has never broken or come loose so that's not a problem of me;
v) The price of the bags has increased, I bought a pack of four recently was A$26 or A$6.50 each, but I do see the point of buying even more in bulk. A pack of 16 is around A$74 or A$4.60 each. Non-genuine bags are even cheaperheaper, down to $3 per bag. However, the problem of landfill still exists if I don't reuse them.
If you have any concerns about the reused bag not performing well enough for you, replace it. Simple as that. Even two or three uses is better than just one for the environment! :-)
Hi Gregory, I applaud you for your initiative and determination to protect the environment. However I don't think this method would be a good idea for other people generally as they may use their vacuum on max suction or use poorer quality tape (hence this method is not foolproof).
It may also be worth taking into account the environmental impact of having to manufacture a new motor because the old one wore out due to contamination with larger debris should a person's cut/tape job be leaky.
Finally, it should be noted that as the bag fills up with larger clumps of debris, the pores in the wall are also trapping microscopic debris. I read the bag has an efficiency of 75% at trapping ~0.3micron sized particles, which will still be there after you empty the bag. Saturated pores = higher airflow resistance which means the motor is working harder, getting hotter due to reduced airflow and therefore potentially shortening lifespan.
My proposal would be to pull out the debris through the hole rather than cut the bag and not reuse it more than once or twice at most. More effectively, I would try and contact Miele and get them onto the R&D train of producing biodegradable bags
On balance, Becc C, I concur with your comments. A maximum of three uses per bag would probably be he best compromise for the average vacuumer. Our place is pretty spick and span so I'm only vacuuming up the ubiquitous dust and lint that as been with humankind since we started building permanent dwellings! I only ever use the machine at its two thirds power setting so I have little risk at burning out the motor. It's still as happy as Larry and doesn't look like biting the dust (excuse the pun) in the foreseeable future.
Nevertheless, you raise good points about longevity and appropriately using the appliance, or any appliance for that matter, to extract out of it its full working life. I really like your idea about writing to Miele about the matter. I think you and I should start a worldwide campaign for them, and all disposable vacuum cleaner manufacturers, to lift their game and produce environmentally friendly bags. :-)
I think your video is awesome; your replies even better (not sure if some of them are genuine or satire or sarcasm, but they read well). Do it right and you will save money and help the environment. Keep up the good videos!
Thanx for your reply, James, especially your comments about my writing. :-D I am a poet so I like playing with words. :-)
If you're thinking of doing this for environmental reasons think of this: Which is worse, a couple of full bags in a landfill or a couple of dead vacuum cleaners in a landfill? Never reuse bags. You'll put way to much strain on the motor (not to mention all the fine dust not being trapped by the bag anymore being sucked straight into the motor, damaging it in the long run and then blown straight out)
what I do is pull out the debris from the hole no cutting the bag I may do this twice with the bag been doing it for years without a hitch but cutting the bag is a little over the top.
Fairynuff, mike johnson. Sound reasoning there, old boy! We all have to do what works for us in an acceptable risk profile.:-)
Cheers mate
Exactly what I was looking for
I've been wondering if it could be done or not
I was going to sew my bugger up but masking tape seems the go
Awesome thank you
I recommend you not doing this to your Miele it can cause damage to motor and other parts very expensive cost in parts to fix Miele
I feel like anybody who complains about this is a Miele chill. People use old t-shirts as vacuum bags and they work fine. The bags just act as a prefilter for the hepa filter anyway. The fan inside has a sealed bearing. Dust isn't gonna hurt it. Vacuum bags are like non refillable ink cartridges for printers. They exist to make money nothing more. The bagless version of this is twice the price for the same thing. Ask yourself why that is.
Watch performance reviews video on non genuine bags. You’re looking to seize up your motor within 2-3 years
This is the best way to ruin your motor!
I agree so just buy new bags da only cost €11:95 and da last for months and months
How to ruin your motor and void your warranty 101
This is a good way to ruin your vacuum. If you don't want to pay for bags, buy a bagless vacuum.
Good point, Pablo. I think a bagless one will be my next purchase when my Miele dies in 20 years time. :-)
SO happy to see I am not the only one who realizes this is a horrible idea!!!! You may ge a pass to pull debris from the hole ONE time but no more and NEVER cut the bag!!! Save eletricity and jus use a broom!!!!
Hello,
My question isn't this method unsafe for the cleaner's motor, if the bag gets opened? Has it happened to you? I bought yesterday a Miele vacuum cleaner for 300 euro (~330 USD) and I'm not sure if I want to risk causing fire or destroying the cleaner using this method!
I've never has any problem with the motor. As far as the machine is concerned, there's just a standard bag installed. The tape is underneath the front of the bag at the furthest point from the exhaust outlet, nowhere near the motor. That's also the point of least air suction. The tape has never come off either.
As I mentioned in original post, it's probably advisable to only use a bag a total of five times as I'd imagine that the efficiency of the filtering may have been reduced somewhat by that stage. :-)
PolicemanxXx you will void your 7yr motor warranty if you use aftermarket parts or alter any part on the machine. You can empty the bag after ever use if you want, but you'll never remove the fine bits that stick to the sides and between the layers and your motor WILL be overworking every time you turn the machine on. A bag should last you at least 2-3 months, so you're only spending about $20-30/yr. Your Miele will last you 20 years or more if you follow the basic maintenance instructions which is basically change your bag and filter on time.
What is the purpose of the ribbons in the bag? I actually thought Miele may have put them there on purpose to make it really difficult to clean out the bag from the opening. I tried this already after my friends bag got full and they had no replacement bags, it was almost impossible to empty it through the hole, then I started ripping some of the ribbons and it made it much easier to empty it through the hole and I was thinking their only purpose was to make it hard to empty the bag :o ??
VanTasks the ribbons are there to help with evenly dust loading the bag, don't even think about trying to save a few dollars by attempting to reuse the bag. If you reuse them you're just looking at a pricy blown motor replacement.
Thanks :)
That will end up killing the Miele.
You really are looking to repair shop for Miele vacuum it damages the unit and also can dirty up the cord reel very expensive cost to save just $5 per bag
Meile vacuum cleaners really are good, if your not careful they can suck bits out your carpet ! ( Just kidding ) 😊 I did once empty the cak out of the hole itself, it is a very dusty and dirty job !
The reason that I have to re use this time is because I cannot find meile bags in any of the likely shops, Wilkie's used to have them but haven't had them for a very long time, used to be able to get them on the local market but I haven't seen that guy in well over a year, I never could imagine how that guy ever made a living, still, it looks like an online job then, 💨 😁👍
Great idea. You could buy a plastic strip from Godfreys so you can re use the bags. You just fold the bag end over and slide the clip over the opening to seal it.
Doesn't the cap hold it in place? -serious question.
Perfect ... felt the same way you did ... many thanks ...
Thanx very much, Toby. I hope my solution works satisfactorily for you. :-)
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Not recommended. If the bag pops open the contents may damage the motor.
Don't cheap out on bags for an expensive Miele vacuum cleaner. Miele bags are among the best in the world because of their filtration.
Thanks so much for this.
Thanks for sharing this!! We were given a Miele and I have always hated that in this day and age, they only make 1 use bags!! My next idea is to sew a truly reusable bag.
Thanx for your reply, N Thomas. My machine is functioning perfectly with my bag reuse practice. One needs to exercise common sense in how many times to reuse them, depending on how dirty they are. :-)
You need some material with good filtration, and you'd need to seal it very well.
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks, Gregory.
I would NEVER recommend doing this to any vacuum cleaner, especially a Miele. Miele's are the most respected and reliable vacuum cleaners in the industry. By reusing the bags not only are you putting strain on the motor, decreasing cleaning effectiveness and ruining your HEPA filter.... but, if you were to experience a premature motor failure, the moment a technician saw that you were reusing bags, your warranty would be void and you would be financially responsible for the repair. Awful.
Miele bags are made from recyclable material. Why buy a premium vacuum if you’re not willing to buy the bags for it 😂
Even if you're a millionaire, why pay for something if you don't have to? If you are clever, you can make your own recyclable bags, or you can use the default bag up to 100 times by slicing it open, emptying the rubbish, and then using bull-dog clips (or other type of clips) to re-seal the bag.
@@mart150870 I’d buy a bagless vacuum in that case or a bagged vacuum that uses cheaper bags.
Most importantly, I don’t want to bout unnecessary strain on the motor. The bags are single-use for a reason.
@@mart150870reuse is a bad idea, the bags are specifically designed to filter the air coming through it, eventually with more reuse the bag will eventually clog up. Not to mention the possibility of damaging a very expensive motor with loose dirt coming out of a cut bag.
Anyone watching this thinking it's a good idea - don't. Miele bags are specifically designed to filter dirt so it doesn't get in the motor. Don't spend 1000 dollars on a vacuum only to destroy it. If you don't want to buy bags, then buy a bagless vacuum.
There are certain things that should never be reused. Perhaps gently brooming the floor or using a carpet sweeper to get up the gross dirt first. Then vacuum up the finer particles. This will stretch out your bag changes. Five bucks is not much in this economy. Please reconsider.
My machine is functioning perfectly with my bag reuse practice. One needs to exercise common sense in how many times to reuse them, depending on how dirty they are. :-)
The main reason is to reduce non-biodegradable, single use waste from entering landfill. By using one five times, that's an 80% reduction in landfill waste. I reckon that's worth it. :-)
If you have dogs that shed like demons sometimes you can’t get to the vacuum cleaner store in time to buy replacement bags. Plus cheapskatery.
I wonder why they didn’t put a zipper on this. It’s suppose to be reusable
Can you get the stink out, or that doesn't bother you, dirt rots and then stinks, fact, and also by reusing the bag you will have a free air scent that will be spread all around the house
Can we reuse vacuum bags if we wash it and leave out to dry then?
You can get the stink out by either washing and drying the original bag, or by making your own bag (if you are clever enough). I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to do such a simple DIY job.
Thanks for the video. I would like to make a reusable, and washable GN bag out of some material similar to the Dyson filter. At the end where the air flows to, a clip similar to Osprey's water bag to keep it closed and easily open. someone steal my idea!
its been done in the "olden days" i remember a slide on long thin clip, you slid the clip off the bottom of the bag allowing the dust out, then folded the bottom over a few times and slid the clip back on and reused it until the bag wore out. It doesn't exist now (taken off the market so we all buy more bags).. i.e more money for them. PLUS Bag less hoovers came along ~and halved the sales and inventions and interest in bagged hoovers.
You are on the right track. Keep up the good thinking! I would gladly be your customer.
why dont you just push the cap /valve in..(it wont break) hold it in, and pull out the dirt/fluff, and reuse.! ..if you're really that tight why would you have a replaceable bag hoover in the first place?
@Ed i dont think it matters broke or not...cap only closes of dust when taking out bat and disposing of it, in in this case , emptying and putting back. just fish it out and carry on as you were
@Ed The cap is not needed.. its for the fussy ones who want the dust to close off when the bag comes out for disposal. But in "our" case it doesnt matter as we are fishing about in the dust to reuse the bag. just get the broke off cap out and discard it and replace/reuse the bag.
That’s doesn’t work I’ve tried and it takes bloody ages because of how it’s designed
I’ve done this and found it works for me. A messy process but better for the environment.
Bagless machines uses expensive filter, making running cost higher than bagged ones. Check out "performance reviews" on UA-cam.
Legeeennddd, thanks dood!
Thank you!!
if you reuse the bag and dust collects in the motor, or the system shuts down, you are responsible for the 200 bucks to replace the motor.
Yep! This has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen. Why buy an expensive vacuum and then completely sabotage the entire system just to save a few dollars each year? Put it in perspective...I use about 6 bags/yr which is about $30 total. They're not that expensive considering that they hold around 20 lbs of debris and even with my house full of fur and hair that goes about 2 months for each bag.
I think if you empty bag & reuse it should be fine. But I wouldn't reuse multiple times.
Tam T You don't know what you're talking about. The fine dirt you pick up, saw dust, spilled powder, powdered kitty litter etc clogs the pores of the bag, making the bag sensor sense that the bag is full because the motor is working harder. A harder working motor produces more heat (feel the exhaust). Excessive heat will eventually lead to MOTOR BURN OUT! Now Tammie, what's THAT worth to you? Don't be a gullible gurl!
please DON'T, cost of vacuum and repairs to motor out weigh the cost of replacement vacuum bags even if you go aftermarket. why didn't you buy bagless vacuum? $0.00 after sales cost other than electricity.
Why can't you remove the dirt through the normal opening, like the older Electrolux bag vacuum?
You can, Jakob W, but it's very messy and time consuming. I decided to have a go my way and it worked! :-)
Jakob W The pores of the bag will still be blocked and there's nothing you can do about it except BUY NEW BAGS! SMDH
If you want to go to the trouble of pulling the dirt out of the little hole, why didn't you buy a BAGLESS vacuum???
stitch a zip instead of the tape
Risking damage to a $1000 vacuum cleaner to save $20 a year. Sounds like a good deal to me.
They dont cost a grand everywhere you must know. Where they´re made, they are about $300
I think you could save more than $20 per year. But the greatest benefit lies in knowing that you have cut some corners that needed cutting and you can share this idea with the world. I don't believe in wanton extravagance - or spending money freely without considering the alternatives.
Temu have them
"you'll save on pollution by 80%" actually you'll just increase the time taken to cause the same amount of pollution by 500%
Great point TheWarOnU! Well spotted!!! :-)
Ah ha! I think I've found a hole in you argument. It presumes an eternity of never ending use of this vacuum cleaner. I would actually be using one fifth of the bags over the 20 year life span of the machine,. Therefore I would indeed be saving 80% on pollution as well as costs. :-)
@@wildlifestationsbundanoon9689 Bingo!
Bad advice!!! Do NOT ever reuse ANY vacuum bag as the fine particles coat and clog the pores of the bag which in turn reduces suction, airflow to the motor, and filtration capabilities. What is the point of purchasing a premium vacuum that can last 20+ years and then do something that not only will void the warranty, but will greatly reduce the life of the motor? If you're that cheap, just buy a bagless junk vacuum. So once again. ...BAD ADVICE!! Doing this will VOID your warranty!
katylady1981 Never ever do this/that... The world is black and white and nothing in between... Well, in the real world, we make choices regardless of what a manufacturer might advise. He did mention that his machine is already out of warranty. It also depends on the nature of what you are vacuuming. For example, I never reuse hepa bags that I use on cleaning fine toner powder. In other words, KNOWING exactly what kind of stuff you’re filling the bag with will allow you to gauge whether the bag can still be reused. Further, the surface area of the bag is quite large and it is unlikely under normal house circumstances that you clog enough of the pores to cut off air flow completely. Owning a vacuum gauge and a particle counter makes sense whether you choose to reuse bags. And frequent visual inspections of the status of your bags and filters... honestly there are a number of wise steps that can be done to avoid disaster. Using genuine Miele bags is never a 100% full proof way of avoiding destroying your machine.
This is so ghetto , why spend money on a premium vacuum only to be stingy with vacuum bags. It’s like buying a Mercedes and filling it with vegetable oil.
The bags are a money grab by Miele. They could easily add a zipper and overlapping velcro (to prevent dust escaping), but they don't. And the idea that the bags won't filter as well if emptied is complete BS. Furthermore, the bags are SMALL, and having to constantly use new bags is environmentally disingenuous on Miele's part. Miele knows this and they don't care. It's all about selling more stuff.
The main reason is to reduce non-biodegradable, single use waste from entering landfill. By using one five times, that's an 80% reduction in landfill waste. I reckon that's worth it. :-)
The bagless vacuums don't work that well, and the Miele cat and dog hair vac is the best one for suction I've found anywhere, but investing in something that does the job properly doesn't mean you want to waste money on shit you dont have to. Espically when you didn't realize how much continuous costs were involved when purchasing it. My old vac had a reusable bag which was great, but they don't make it anymore.
jakub b Environmental reasons
Cairo Anderson this isn’t your old vacuum. Over time your Miele will slowly start overheating and the motor will seize up. False economy when you destroy your machine making it end up in the land fill. Just get a bag less cleaner and wash the filters.
Why would you do this!
Because they’re £5 a bag dumbass
We use about a bag every two weeks it’s the biggest money maker and it pisses me off how quick the bag gets full
If you can't afford bags for a $700 vacuum, then you probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
Wow this was an incredibly poor idea. Downvoted
miele vacuums are a ripoff.
Actually, kelly, I reckon they're very good vacuum cleaners. It's the waste of those disposable bags that irks me. :-)