@@justinsullivan5839 you can say that about literally everything. Drafting players based on performance in college has ruined more franchises than its saved (i.e. Matt Barkley, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, Sam Bradford, etc.). Dragting players on athleticism has ruined more franchises than its saved... there is no secret drafting technique that works more than it fails...
@@SirNic4180 never said he didnt have bad coaching... the fact is the Titans regime drafted Vince Young and it didnt work out. I think it has more to do with Fisher personally but Young belongs on the list cause the point of my comment is tjay there are no guarantees in the draft. Vince was as talented as they come and even he could not overcome a bad coach.
Love definitely has the potential but where he lands is going to determine his NFL future. If he could get to Green Bay or Pittsburgh, I'd be all in. Never mind if he could get to Tampa Bay. 2-3 years behind an elite QB is what he needs.
Todd just complimenting EVERY QB in the class so that a few yrs from now, he gets to say.. "I told you so! He's the 'Tom Brady' of this class" and get to keep his job.
The receivers Tua had not to mention a running back who could take it to the house on a dump off, that was the best receiving corps I ever seen on a team 1-5.
the same Todd McShay who said Daniel Jones would never see the field as an NFL starter, while Dwayne Haskins would be a superstar as soon as he's drafted? ..... yowzers, Todd
@@mrawesome3238 Todd is the only one left who still refuses to admit he was wrong though. Gotta give kiper credit for once, he totally called it before anyone
It’s the same slander they did against Lamar Jackson, He can’t throw and should change to RB or WR cause he’s a fast runner, I hope that Jalen goes to the Saints or GreenBay or somewhere where he can learn behind a great QB
This Jordan Love talk is getting ridiculous... go watch the tape... dude is so inconsistent and inaccurate... people are wanting to find the next Mahomes... but it ain't love, it's Tua
Love get compared to mahomes cause he the only one in this draft that makes them wild under & side arm throws down the field when in danger. Yes he's inconsistent at times but that's why they said sit him for a year or two. Mahomes wasn't perfect coming out of college he was the 3rd rated QB but he sit a year & learned. Love has the most upside of any QB in this draft if u develop him right & put talent around him something he didn't have last year.
I’ve been thinking why wouldn’t you guys just draft 3 first round studs and stick with Rosen for a year. He’s not bad at all just needs time like Brady does. I’m not saying he’s Brady but if you give him time he will make the throws. If he doesn’t work out you guys have what two more firsts next year? Get the guy from Ohio state if Lawrence is gone
@@romain8390 The problem is him changing his mind to such a high degree despite the fact zero games were played between the bowl game and MacShay speaking here to Greenie
@@Frederick0220 again, you can go back and watch the tape, while games were not being played, and change your mind… It doesn’t sound sensible to 100% of the time hold m the same opinion between the end of the season and the draft
@@romain8390 again, it would be one thing if he made a slight adjustment, say going from #15 overall to #6 overall but going from a mid-round pick (3rd round) to #6 shows he was not doing his homework. He went from saying he was mediocre to elite, with zero games having been played.
@@Frederick0220 I see… On top of having Jordan love is my number one quarterback back in 2020, Todd McShay is the only ESPN analyst that I take seriously, in terms of quarterback, evaluations… Obviously, it’s not a perfect science and everyone is wrong at one point or another, but it wasn’t hard to see why Jordan love was an elite talent
You can't on an individual level. But usually around 55-60% of starting QB's were first rounders in any given year. A very large portion of those are top 5 picks too. Every position in every round has busts. But as a whole, teams obviously are pretty good at predicting who the good QB's will be.
I don’t need a a guy in a suit to tell me whose better , I watch college faithfully. LOVE IS NOT BETTER THAN HURTS . Not even close . If you watch both players college careers; there is no way you can say love is better. Disrespect towards hurts is crazy .
I would trade my 3 firsts for Joe Burrow if I was Miami. If that’s the guy I absolutely love best believe we are going after him and not taking a chance on the other guys we don’t like as much. Go get your guy!
You have to know the situation he was in. He had to do more with less and his new coaches were terrible. His 2018 yr was one of the best in college football. You can't look at one yr and think he's trash. Watch the film, it doesn't lie.
I don’t mean to come off like I’m bashing him or think he’s trash. I think he’s very talented or else he wouldn’t even be in this position. I’ll admit I didn’t see him 2018 season. I’ll check it out.
Regardless of the rookie pay scale. As a GM, you'd be out of your mind to waste Top 10 money on Tua! With three 1st round picks, the smart play for the Dolphins is to use all three on other positions to strengthen your team. Then make a run at Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence next year. Both are miles ahead and way better than Tua, Herbert, and Love. The argument could be made both Fields and Lawrence are better than Burrow.
Dude in like 3 of these clips for Jordan Love he has abysmal ball placement. Combine that with bad decision making and I’m supposed to be excited about less talented Jameis Winston? What?
Tua is posting virtual videos of him throwing 10-30 yard passes. Which every quarterback in college can throw with practice. What happens with pressure? Joe borrow had a great year with great talent. Tua gets injured every year with great talent. Also tua is a lefty. Good luck to both. Don’t think either will contribute to nfl success.
The lions should trade up to 3 or 4 but don't trade ur 1st round picks use a 2nd a 3rd or next year picks . But keep them 3 1st round picks the draft is too stacked in the first round m
NFL: False hope is upside. Reality: Prospects with skills but some flaws bring upside. Love = False Hope. Hurts, Herbert, Tagovaiola, and Burrow (ranked 4 to 1) bring upside.
The Discussion agreed, Jalen isn’t that kind of guy though. Runs a 4.59 40 when I bet Lamar would be in the 4.3 range. Different level of speed, for me he’s a smaller less arm talented Dak.
History has shown that TODD McSHAY KNOWS HIS STUFF!
It’s funny how all these stooges changed their tune once Green Bay drafted him
30-11 td-int ratio this year ❤
Currently Love is a monster for the Packers
Upside has got alot of coaches and general managers fired.
Upside won Andy Reid a SB...
Keenan Nash and it’s ruined more franchises than it’s saved.
@@justinsullivan5839 you can say that about literally everything. Drafting players based on performance in college has ruined more franchises than its saved (i.e. Matt Barkley, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, Sam Bradford, etc.). Dragting players on athleticism has ruined more franchises than its saved... there is no secret drafting technique that works more than it fails...
@@keenannash2947 Vince Young shouldn't be on the list. Vince had a shitty coach. Facts
@@SirNic4180 never said he didnt have bad coaching... the fact is the Titans regime drafted Vince Young and it didnt work out. I think it has more to do with Fisher personally but Young belongs on the list cause the point of my comment is tjay there are no guarantees in the draft. Vince was as talented as they come and even he could not overcome a bad coach.
Love definitely has the potential but where he lands is going to determine his NFL future. If he could get to Green Bay or Pittsburgh, I'd be all in. Never mind if he could get to Tampa Bay. 2-3 years behind an elite QB is what he needs.
This aged oddly well haha
I was gonna say
👀
aged like fine wine
@@ianlo9222It was edited, the original was not positive and didnt mention Green Bay. Guys a weirdo trying to act like a fortune teller
Todd just complimenting EVERY QB in the class so that a few yrs from now, he gets to say.. "I told you so! He's the 'Tom Brady' of this class" and get to keep his job.
And he gets paid millions every year to do so...... lucky guy
BS. He hatēd Daniel Jones as a top pick, and he’s been right.
Well he's been right so far on guys from this draft class
The receivers Tua had not to mention a running back who could take it to the house on a dump off, that was the best receiving corps I ever seen on a team 1-5.
Nailed it 🎉
Mcshay was spot on with Love!
the same Todd McShay who said Daniel Jones would never see the field as an NFL starter, while Dwayne Haskins would be a superstar as soon as he's drafted? ..... yowzers, Todd
That wasn’t just Todd that was everyone on espn
@@mrawesome3238 Todd is the only one left who still refuses to admit he was wrong though. Gotta give kiper credit for once, he totally called it before anyone
KaeHaych doesn’t mean he’s always wrong about QBs
That’s cause nobody thought the giants was that stupid 😂😂😂
It's only been one year
I can't believe these "Draft Analysts" aren't giving Jalen Hurts any recognition
It’s the same slander they did against Lamar Jackson, He can’t throw and should change to RB or WR cause he’s a fast runner, I hope that Jalen goes to the Saints or GreenBay or somewhere where he can learn behind a great QB
Ikr, Jalen Hurts is a stud. SMH. Yet, we are talking about a 20/20 QB mediocre Love.
Hurts lacks the arm talent that is required for the nfl level.
Hurts not elite
Bread Winning Biscuit they said the same thing about Tom Brady. lol
Love is impressive
if we can't get Tua @ 5... I'm trading back a bit for more picks and drafting Jordan Love with our first selection!
They are gassing Jordan love so much lol. He’s gonna be a career backup
Lmao this won’t age well 😂😂😂
Pat White JR
BasketballAddict this wont age well.
will these comments age well?
CrissDrums not even a good comparison in play style or physical traits. But if the Dolphins draft him and he’s a bust it will be 100% accurate
why does Jordan love get more recognition than Heisman finalist Jalen hurts?
Right lmao
Cause Jordan love is a better qb and maleness hurts is inaccurate
Mr Awesome So the guy with 17 int is accurate?? I want what you are smoking.
andy lee who should Jalen hurts be drafted by?
Jalen has a wind up arm.
Is this the same Todd McShay that rated good ol Jameis Winston a tier 1 prospect? Lol
Now all of a sudden, every light skinned QB is the next Mahomes. Smh
Shang Tsung voice, "IT HAS BEGUN!"
It's because Love has nuts arm talent
who r all the other QBS who people call the next Mahomes?
Looks as it to me🤣🤣
This Jordan Love talk is getting ridiculous... go watch the tape... dude is so inconsistent and inaccurate... people are wanting to find the next Mahomes... but it ain't love, it's Tua
jimbosjams21 tuas gonna be the best qb in this draft. His hip will have healed
@jimbosjams21 pin that comment and we'll talk in a couple yrs
Love get compared to mahomes cause he the only one in this draft that makes them wild under & side arm throws down the field when in danger. Yes he's inconsistent at times but that's why they said sit him for a year or two. Mahomes wasn't perfect coming out of college he was the 3rd rated QB but he sit a year & learned. Love has the most upside of any QB in this draft if u develop him right & put talent around him something he didn't have last year.
I watched the tape his WRs were awful while tua has amazing WRs
Tua is definitely the best QB in the draft he will be top 3 in the league with Lamar and mahomes if Tua is healthy he’s the next mahomes
Jordan Love is the best QB in this draft...
This is aging nicely
Even in Joe Burrow’s snaps at Ohio State he balled out.
Pretty decent 😂
Coming back to say Todd McShay knows ball
KICKOFF FRIDAY LETSSSSSS GOOOOO🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀
Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert: “Are we jokes to you?”
Rodney White the real joke is that you forgot to mention Tua, who will better than all of them
Herbert is a surefire bust
Pablo Diaz as long as he doesn’t get injured
Plus Jalen hurts and Tua
Matthew Harewood I did forget those 2. My bad.
As a Dolphins fan, I'd stick with Rosen over Love.
Rosen sucks 😂
I’ve been thinking why wouldn’t you guys just draft 3 first round studs and stick with Rosen for a year. He’s not bad at all just needs time like Brady does. I’m not saying he’s Brady but if you give him time he will make the throws. If he doesn’t work out you guys have what two more firsts next year? Get the guy from Ohio state if Lawrence is gone
@@brobeanz5 that's what they should do
As a Dolphins fan I definitely wouldn’t 😂
So would like Rosen or Love now 😂
I’m glad to see love doing better hopefully he can take us somewhere 💯💛💚
Imagine thinking Love has more upside than Tua lol
He literally destroys Tua in terms of arm talent
Way it’s looking rn he does maybe have more upside than tua
So what do you think now 😂
I’m biased but Tua has the highest upside
Injuries all the time he will be a backup on the Detroit lions
He does
Mr Awesome dumb
Trix bet you 1000 Jordan love will be better than tua
Mr Awesome plz shut up🤦🏾♂️
People just want to find the next Patrick Mahomes so bad that these people want Love to be that guy lol
Week 13 2023 season. Love just beat Patrick mahomes chiefs and looking similar to mahomes/ Rodgers mechanics.
Mcshay sounds sick or tooth extraction 😆
You were right he has COVID-19....
Todd Mcshay out here tippin
Todd's pockets are phat right now! 🤣
What Tua wasn't good against good competition? This man gave LSU the business on one leg
Dolphins don't need to pick Tua we need to pick Justin or Jordan point blank
Yeah?
A pick isn’t worth wasting it on Tua, I don’t see him succeeding in the NFL.
whos here after the packers picked him?
you know ball Todd
Lol. During the Utah State bowl game against Kent State, Todd MacShay said Love was a 3rd rounder. Now he has him going #6 overall 🤔😂
And..? What’s wrong with changing your mind after a second look,”?
@@romain8390 The problem is him changing his mind to such a high degree despite the fact zero games were played between the bowl game and MacShay speaking here to Greenie
@@Frederick0220 again, you can go back and watch the tape, while games were not being played, and change your mind… It doesn’t sound sensible to 100% of the time hold m the same opinion between the end of the season and the draft
@@romain8390 again, it would be one thing if he made a slight adjustment, say going from #15 overall to #6 overall but going from a mid-round pick (3rd round) to #6 shows he was not doing his homework. He went from saying he was mediocre to elite, with zero games having been played.
@@Frederick0220 I see… On top of having Jordan love is my number one quarterback back in 2020, Todd McShay is the only ESPN analyst that I take seriously, in terms of quarterback, evaluations… Obviously, it’s not a perfect science and everyone is wrong at one point or another, but it wasn’t hard to see why Jordan love was an elite talent
Todd you were right qb steal in 2020 draft his first full yr as starting quarterback was outstanding
#1 rule: You shouldn’t predict how a QB will do in the NFL because YOU CAN’T!!!
You can't on an individual level. But usually around 55-60% of starting QB's were first rounders in any given year. A very large portion of those are top 5 picks too.
Every position in every round has busts. But as a whole, teams obviously are pretty good at predicting who the good QB's will be.
McShay wildin
I don’t need a a guy in a suit to tell me whose better , I watch college faithfully. LOVE IS NOT BETTER THAN HURTS . Not even close . If you watch both players college careers; there is no way you can say love is better. Disrespect towards hurts is crazy .
😂😂
😂😂
Sounds like the black Trubisky
And they are still overlooking hurt smh
Aaron Velazquez Exactly!
the dolphins should not draft tua they should draft an offensive lineman the dolphins would be stupid to draft tua
I would trade my 3 firsts for Joe Burrow if I was Miami. If that’s the guy I absolutely love best believe we are going after him and not taking a chance on the other guys we don’t like as much. Go get your guy!
I just don’t see anything really special in Herbert or Love. I feel like Hurts gonna end up being better in the league than those 2
All 3 will be outta the league within 5 years.
@@joshlewis575 Still feel that way about Herbert?
@@joshlewis575good god this aged badly
Jordan Love threw just as many INTs as he did TDs and here y’all are gassing him up.. PLEASE!
You have to know the situation he was in. He had to do more with less and his new coaches were terrible. His 2018 yr was one of the best in college football. You can't look at one yr and think he's trash. Watch the film, it doesn't lie.
I don’t mean to come off like I’m bashing him or think he’s trash. I think he’s very talented or else he wouldn’t even be in this position. I’ll admit I didn’t see him 2018 season. I’ll check it out.
@@candymcdaniel5125 respect your response. Yeah check him out buddy, you'll like what you see.
Let's push every QB to #1 because we're soooooo bored
The Green Bay Packers have unexpectedly decided to go with a decent backup QB to support the aging Aaron Rodgers.
Joe to Bengals,tua to dolphins. They swap players dolphines adds picks.
Actually it's JALEN HURTS & it's not even close.
If I'm Packers, Saints or Pats GM i draft Jordan Love easy
Jean Carlos Rivera Rodríguez well said! I’m excited about this guy.
Todd just wet snitched on some NFL teams
Regardless of the rookie pay scale. As a GM, you'd be out of your mind to waste Top 10 money on Tua! With three 1st round picks, the smart play for the Dolphins is to use all three on other positions to strengthen your team. Then make a run at Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence next year. Both are miles ahead and way better than Tua, Herbert, and Love. The argument could be made both Fields and Lawrence are better than Burrow.
Yuuup it's smart to take best player available instead of wasting a pick. I'm a big fan of Kellen Mond if he has a good year he can come out too
Yikes this did not age well at all lmfao
Good god this take reeks 😂
Lies. No he’s not. Certain teams want other teams to believe that so they can get what they REALLY WANT.
If Jordan Love is that skeptical & isn't ready to plug 'n play, then he can't be a top-10 pick.
Lol why didnt they show marcus's part
Here we go....
Said no one ever.
He has a higher upside than Burrow and Justin Herbert? Okay😂
Grasping onto one line huh? He said he needed to sit and develop but if given that had the highest upside.
Guess what Aaron Rodgers forced him to do?
Does it seem that far off now??
Dude in like 3 of these clips for Jordan Love he has abysmal ball placement. Combine that with bad decision making and I’m supposed to be excited about less talented Jameis Winston? What?
Or Barkley or Sanchez
😂😂😂
They are really paid to say these things ?
Upside means draft him 2nd or 3rd round.
Miami should draft Hurts at the the end of the first. Draft Simmons with the fifth and OL men with the other.
Jordan Love blows! If you're an inaccurate thrower in college, chances are you're going to be an inaccurate thrower in the NFL.
Except lamar and kind off allen
@@Tnugg209 Lamar Jackson is still very much an inaccurate thrower.
Lamar Jackson inaccurate thrower lol stick to watching hockey
😂😂
Todd sounds like he went to the dentist or he is drunk lol😂
Joe borrow will not make it in the nfl. The nfl and college is different. Same with tua. I think both quarterbacks will lack nfl success.
Tua is posting virtual videos of him throwing 10-30 yard passes. Which every quarterback in college can throw with practice. What happens with pressure? Joe borrow had a great year with great talent. Tua gets injured every year with great talent. Also tua is a lefty. Good luck to both. Don’t think either will contribute to nfl success.
lol
how wrong can you have been?
McShay is gonna owe $5000 to charity. No way Love goes before Herbert.
He also hype Haskins as a mega star and Daniel as a bust 😂
@@noobzruleDaniel is a bust
Go pack go
how do grown men take this so seriously? Just wait and see what happens on draft day
I hope Miami doesn't throw away picks to move up. Pick where you at. So many holes across the board.
Todd McShay is ALWAYS wrong so I'm just gonna pretend he didn't say nothing.
Who isn’t wrong as a draft expert
Well I'd say he was pretty spot on this year
I got two words for ya....Jacob Eason.
McShay falls in love with guys and let’s his emotions cloud his judgment.
Justin Sullivan he has been right about the Chargers last 2 first round picks in the past though, so he remains relevant
With everything that has happened this offseason I could really see Jordan Love fall to the patriots
I hope not. I hate the Patriots. I don't want them to get Jordan Love.
Than the league will be fucked for another 20 years
:)
Love threw 20 pick espn need to stop with this guy
I think the patriots should get Jalen Hurts imma browns fan tho
What about Justin Herbert 😐??
The Los Angeles Chargers select Jordan Love QB Utah State
How is it not Jalen Hurts?
The lions should trade up to 3 or 4 but don't trade ur 1st round picks use a 2nd a 3rd or next year picks . But keep them 3 1st round picks the draft is too stacked in the first round m
Stop Snitchin Todd
It looks like Tua is going to be the next Aaron Rodgers in the NFL draft and a lot of GM's are going to be fired
Replace Tua with Love and I agree. Lol
Correct
looking back washington should have taken a qb. lol. but it is what it is.
What qualifies Dan to be a QB guru dude was 🗑
Wrong Burrow has highest upside.
Tua is a star, everyone else is a dud. You'll see.
Yikes this aged horribly
😂😂😂
Man everyone’s sleeping on Jalen Hurts
90th comment tua and Joe on same team 🍁🌾🎋
NFL: False hope is upside.
Reality: Prospects with skills but some flaws bring upside.
Love = False Hope. Hurts, Herbert, Tagovaiola, and Burrow (ranked 4 to 1) bring upside.
😂😂
GOPACKGO
Tua was never healthy when he played top competition. Find 1 game and then tell me is that a fare assessment.
Rock Holmes LSU?
Why do people think Hurts is going to be a good NFL qb??
They just see Jalen and automatically assume that because he can run that he’s gonna pan out exactly like Lamar lol.
The Discussion agreed, Jalen isn’t that kind of guy though. Runs a 4.59 40 when I bet Lamar would be in the 4.3 range. Different level of speed, for me he’s a smaller less arm talented Dak.
This aged like milk lol
Todd picked up some weight...loo
He sounds drunk then!
No
Jordan Love is a second rounder but all this hype is gonna get him getting picked in the first round