Another excellent vid Ian. Had my 2024 M3 rwd a couple of weeks now and I’m amazed by how efficient it is on the mean streets of Rotherham and South Yorks. Have been keeping it in chill nearly all of the time just because I want to keep my licence but it still makes me smile every time I put my foot to the floor. Effortlessly getting up to the legal limits at every opportunity. Currently averaging 206 wh/mile after 900 miles from picking it up. 👌🏻
What you think is coming to you to fix the 25 billion black hole in the tax revenue from fuel? Pay per mile tracking 😂 won’t be so smug then will you pal. Ps your shitty Tesla has lost a fortune and my petrol M4 has gained £5000 in value in a year 😂 so my M4 has only cost £400 a month to own from brand new. Which is paid for by my employer so it’s cost me nearly nothing. I’m finding that EV owners are not very bright when it comes to maths because you’re so focused on fuel costs. Depreciation is bigger issue for all cars
Just went on vacation to Italy (Tuscany). My first big trip with my Model Y LR. We were 4 adullts and trunk & frunk full. We drove 2700km in total and consumed on average 168Wh/km. Most pleasantly surprised.
Road trip was already several weeks ago! First part will drop this Friday. I then have an “East to West” road trip I am shooting in a few weeks. Peterhead (most easterly point in Scotland) to Ardnamurchan (westerly)…
Wow, I didn't expect that outcome! we've now done 10,000 miles in the Y and the long term average is 254 Wh/M based on short winter journeys, long motorway runs, cross country thrashes and slow speeds stuck behind lorries/tractors/caravans etc. Looking forward to the cross climate review, interested to see what sort of impact they have had on efficiency.
Thanks for the video. Two follow-up comments: 1. If you had "warmed the car up" first before doing your chillax test, wouldn't that have improved the chillax efficiency? 2. If you drive using traffic-aware cruise control, I imagine I've noticed that my M3P is more efficient. That might be worth testing too
This is why I like auto regen, you can coast along without needing to feather the throttle, the car reads the road and the signs and adds regen if needed. Good demo of how to max the efficiency of an ev.
It's the friction breaks that really hurts your efficiency. I was pleasantly surprised by just how much energy I was getting back from regen when I rented one for 2 weeks
It depends! Your car burns the least power when it’s at speed. You need minimal power to maintain speed on a flat surface. So if you can conserve that momentum you don’t need to burn more energy getting back up to speed. You always burn more than you regen
I am keeping my tesla model 3 LR HL on standard because I feel safe that I can accelerate past cars very easily and that makes for some reason me feel more safer. Having the power and control to pass in a very quick session on towards oncoming traffic is a safety concern for me.
I have had my MY RWD for a month now. Yesterday, I did a 400 mile round trip of mostly motorway driving, although a mixture of roadworks and heavy traffic turned it into a mixed driving trip! At the end, I was staggered to see that it had averaged 201wH / mile or very very nearly 5 m/kWh! For quite a large car, I think that's amazing! I did have the air con off because I didn't need it. So that's probably the best it will do and gives a total range of 285 miles. Obviously it will be a lot lower in Winter but I rarely do long trips and even if I do, charging is so easy it doesn't matter. I won't go into the calcs but with my free supercharging miles, solar energy and Octopus GO, I reckon my total fuel cost over the 30,000 mile lease will be £50. So a bit less than the £4,500 the petrol would have cost for the ICE it replaced. Then there is the £1,000 saving in Road Tax, then the MOTs and maintenance. It all knock a big hole in the cost of the PCH I drove it in the dark for the first time last night - anyone know what that little light bar to the right of the light indicators is saying? Something to do with the adaptive lights I suspect?? My only hate so far is the panel buzz when the road surface is anything less than perfect tarmac. The concrete surfaced M25 between 8 and 11 is my ultimate test and the Model Y fails miserably!!!
Interesting video. Coincidentally, I did something similar yesterday evening, over a longer and more varied route, and although I wasn't trying as hard as you were, I think I saw a bigger difference. The route was from home to Glasgow and back, which is 46 miles one way, so 92 miles round trip. Like your route, there's a big height difference, my village is at 800 feet and Glasgow is near sea level. The road goes above 1,000 feet at least once, it's quite undulating. There are sections of country A road of varying quality, some minor roads, a good chunk of M8 including both rural and urban sections, and some city driving. The car is a phase 1 MG4 SE SR with a 51 kwh LFP battery, so not nearly as long range as your Tesla, or as efficient. In summer I would normally get into Glasgow on 75% battery, repeatedly, and home on 47-48%, basically gunning it as much as I feel like. The return journey is uphill, the evening is colder, and as there's less traffic around I probably go faster. (In winter I'm down to 32-33% when I get home.) Yesterday evening I wanted to conserve range, for a rather silly reason. My G99 export certificate for my new solar panels hasn't come through yet, so I'm exporting surplus solar for no benefit. I'm therefore trying to run the car entirely on sunshine until the paperwork comes through. I'm mean that way. The thing was, following on the evening trip to Glasgow yesterday I had two trips today, first to Edinburgh then to Peebles, totalling about 60 miles. I didn't want to charge off the mains overnight, and I didn't want to have to worry about running low coming back from Peebles with an elderly, fussy neighbour in the car. 150-160 miles from full is really nothing to the MG4 SE SR in summer, but I wanted to be sure. So, since I was in no hurry yesterday, I thought I would see how economical I could be. The car stayed on maximum regeneration because it's a pain to change it on the fly in the MG4. I just tried to be gentle with my right foot, avoid hard acceleration, hold the country A road sections down to about 50 mph, and try not to come to a complete stop. I got in to Glasgow on 79% as opposed to 75%, and the car was showing 4.3 miles/kwh. (I said it wasn't as economical as a Tesla!) Interestingly, somewhere between Elsrickle and Newbiggin, I was overtaken by a rather impatient Clio. I wasn't trying to catch up with the car, but I did. I was ahead of it at Bogside, and still in touch when our paths diverged at the Newhouse junction of the M8. I was also only about three minutes longer than I would have expected, on a route that takes about an hour and a quarter at that time of day. I admit to letting the car get up to 70 mph on the M8 both going and coming, because, well, that was how fast the traffic was moving. On the way back, uphill and the temperature down to 14 degrees (it had been 18 degrees on the outward journey) I averaged 3.8 miles/kwh and got back on on 55% battery with 107 miles range remaining. Over the round trip the average was 4.1 miles/kwh. So obviously I was completely set for today, with a bit under 60 miles total to drive. Again I was only a few minutes later than I would have anticipated if I'd been gunning it. I've noticed it before in this car. If I want a bit more range, ease off my usual enthusiastic progress (well, it's a bit of a rocket sled and it's fun), and the range just magically appears. Not having the Tesla software, I just programme my intended charging stop into Android Auto and sort of titrate the remaining distance shown to the stop against the remaining range shown on the car. Works a treat. Swung into Annandale Water one day on 4% charge and 6 miles remaining (which gives some idea of how fast I'd been going). If the comparison between the two distances had moved into negative balance (I'm shooting for about 10 miles range in hand, roughly), I could just have eased off a bit.
@@justgetatesla I think the road I drive to Glasgow would be quite good. West Linton to the city centre. A702, A721, A73, M8, then back. You can do a neutral detour round by Dunsyre for a bit of narrow country road - had to do that on the way home as the A702 was closed at Dolphinton. If you're ever down this way, give it a try. It's 92 miles, which is a good test, but given that it takes about 70 minutes one way, so maybe two and a half hours round trip, you'd need to be careful to control for the time of day - pressure of traffic and temperature.
Ian, the test is missing a third one which is Standard mode but not flooring it. Chill mode merely changes the response profile from the accelerator input and also expects less demand on power so in a small way is supposed to reduce energy for heating the battery. What i'm getting at is that driving in Standard mode but driving gently is pretty much the same result as Chill, merely because Chill limits the throttle response output.
@@greghudson9717 Yes exactly but that's my point here, drive gently in standard mode and there's no noticeable difference in efficiency. This is what I find amusing when I read the often repeated trope about how tyres on EV's don't last long due to the torque available. That torque is optional! Floor it every time and expect that result, drive it moderately and get a different result. That's the missing comparison though, standard mode and driven gently, in the same resulting style as chill delivers. I leave mine in standard and most of the time just drive it gently because no reason to hoof it everywhere. 🙂
Interesting. For a long term project, could be useful for people thinking about an EV,if you did this circuit over the four different seasons, especially when there is a lot of hysteria about winter range.
Hi Ian, good video. First thing most people ask me is how far will my 2022 Long Range Model Y go like yours. If you cruise on long motorway journeys at lets say the speed limit plus 10% on Autopilot the consumption is around 333wh/m or 3 1/3 miles per kw. With a 75kw battery that is a motorway range of 225 miles, all load and very little regeneration. In traffic very different and often will return 250wh/m or 4miles per kw. A real range of 300 miles but who drives 300 miles in traffic? Overall my long average over 29,699 miles is 299wh/m or 3.34 miles per kw. A usual range of 250 miles. Have never used chill mode. 20" wheels and Michelin Pilot sport tyres. Hope that helps. (Model Y performance test drive next Monday!)
The average for the life of my 2023 model Y LR with acceleration boost is 311 wh/m, but that includes doing 120mph on German autobahns and a lot of sustained high speed driving (as limits allow). I do have the larger wheels, but do really floor the car at every opportunity - I love the acceleration boost which really makes it feel like a sports car to drive, while having the practicability of an SUV. However I do have free unlimited supercharging through legacy transfer, so don’t worry much about consumption. I just like enjoying the car!
@@justgetatesla does that mean I get a credit then?! 😀 My Model Y is on order, coming from an Audi Q4. Software in the Tesla is light years ahead and so easy to put it on autopilot. Be interesting to see if it makes much impact. In the Q4 it obviously reacts to certain parameters and that leads to more inefficient braking and accelerating than a competent human would allow.
@@TheRgnvideo No influence at all. Tesla doesn’t warm the battery during driving. It only does it when the programmed "preheat to charge" is activated. So no, the battery temperature had no influence in this case. Especially when the temperatures were above 10C.
G'Day Ian. I have another 'test' for you... Any chance you could do the whole run one more time, but using AutoPilot as much as possible - I'm sure people would be interested to see if the computer can drive more efficiently than a human ? Regards, Greg, from Australia... Now I'm going to turn off chill mode 🙂
I am in the States with an MY that has FSD. I've noticed that the difference between doing a run without FSD, and having FSD active throughout, is around a 2%-5% saving with FSD...I'd guess Autopilot would have a similar positive effect.
It *was* using regen. But basic physics demonstrates that if you burn energy to accelerate and then regen slowing down, you have a net loss of energy. The most efficient way to travel is to maintain momentum- expending minimal energy.
If drive like a grandma, you might get close to the advertised range. If you drive normally you won't get close. If you drive sporty, not even close. That's not counting weather, load, cargo, A/C etc.
Within three years the model 3’s rolling off the line will probably have real world 400 miles achieved easily then god knows 500, 600 miles that is beginning to get over kill. A breakthrough although I don’t think there will be just one as so many companies and institutions are working on the next great thing spending billions on research will move the bar so much in terms of costs of packs, density and weight. Battery degradation will be something silly like 3% the lifetime of the pack. Trouble is it’s a bit like the iPhones people wait for the newest and biggest jump not buying the present one hoping the next model is the one. The iPhone 15 was fine but it was rushed out and they had dropped things that they had suggested because of not being ready. Now all the stuff dropped is now finished and ready and going in the 16. 😂 Every year EV’s get more impressive for people not to ignore.
Range. All, I say ALL motor vehicles range depends on how you drive, Who doesn't know this. The issue with EV's is that they carry such a small amount of energy, the range is a much bigger and much more inconvenient issue. Unlike ICE which can use the free engine heat to keep the passengers warm, EVs must use battery, sometimes as much as moving the car. 1 Kg of petrol is approx. same energy as 30 Kg of battery. A medium EV is carrying around the battery weight of about 4 adults all the time. Not good for city traffic, so the only way to get anywhere near the specified range is to drive on a nice 24C daytime no head lights, no rain, no stopping, no cornering, no slowing down, tyres at the correct pressure, correct ECO tyres, a nice steady 50Km/Hr, no music, no laptop charging, ... these are why range is an issue. I suspect most people get about half the range with normal vehicle use.
For non locals, "the broch" is Fraserburgh. Chillax is pretty much how I drive in snow. The big difference is really seen at speeds over 60 due to the aerodynamic drag being based off the square of the speed.
The main conclusion from this is that you are struggling to create content. Could you just remind me how accelerating hard wherever possible, increasing tyre wear, and road surface wear is beneficial for the environment.......I understood we were trying to rectify an environmental crisis with EV's?!?! 🤣 🤡🌍
You understood wrong. Frankly, if it were EVs that were wrecking the planet and we were all being urged to drive ICE cars to save it, you'd have a hard sell on your hands for a lot of EV drivers. You think we're martyring ourselves for the good of the environment? That's just a bit of gravy. We're driving EVs because they're great to drive; quiet, clean and go like a bat out of hell. They're extremely cheap to run and maintain, and they have all sorts of other cute advantages like VtL (power cut? run your house off the car battery) and pre-heating and pre-cooling before a journey. So rethink your attitudes.
There's an environmental impact, but in Northern Scotland the grid is powered off wind and rain predominantly. Peterhead (gas) power station only runs when it's not windy - that'll remain the case until the interlinks South are beefed up. The "environmental impact" (in this area) is therefore limited to slightly increased tyre wear and marginally less curtailment of wind turbines. Discounting road surface wear, EVs may be heavy but they're nowhere near as heavy as fuel tankers.
@@grahamleiper1538I wouldn’t have bothered answering this broom comes ver as a complete clown that knows sod all about EV’s the only thing I see struggling is him to understand. North of Scotland Electric generation normally sits around 100% because of wind that produces 140% of or yearly needs we have so much, Hydro storage and a touch of solar. They are building one of Europes biggest battery storage sites near me on a huge windfarm whitelee that at one point was the biggest onshore wind farms but others have now surpassed it abroad. The idiots think EV owners are all tree huggers and environmental when it’s not the case it’s just better for daily use and you actually use the car more because it’s cheaper to run.
@@grahamleiper1538 I haven't even seen any robust evidence that EVs have significantly more tyre wear. The study that gets trotted out is laughable. There are a lot of factors that contribute to tyre wear, and the 50/50 weight distribution of EVs and the tendency of EV drivers not to go in for heavy braking may completely cancel out the effect of the slightly greater weight of the car. I'd quite like to see a study of the mitigation of both tyre particulates and road damage that would occur if you took all fuel tankers off the road.
@@moragkerr9577 I was referring to the different environmental impact of the "fast" loop. The fuel tanker comment is my go to when anybody tells me my heavy car is destroying the roads.
Another excellent vid Ian. Had my 2024 M3 rwd a couple of weeks now and I’m amazed by how efficient it is on the mean streets of Rotherham and South Yorks. Have been keeping it in chill nearly all of the time just because I want to keep my licence but it still makes me smile every time I put my foot to the floor. Effortlessly getting up to the legal limits at every opportunity. Currently averaging 206 wh/mile after 900 miles from picking it up. 👌🏻
My standard range Y showing total 235wh/mi @ 7p per Kw that’s 60 miles per £1. Got to laugh at EV haters, fuel duty rise please.
What you think is coming to you to fix the 25 billion black hole in the tax revenue from fuel? Pay per mile tracking 😂 won’t be so smug then will you pal. Ps your shitty Tesla has lost a fortune and my petrol M4 has gained £5000 in value in a year 😂 so my M4 has only cost £400 a month to own from brand new. Which is paid for by my employer so it’s cost me nearly nothing. I’m finding that EV owners are not very bright when it comes to maths because you’re so focused on fuel costs. Depreciation is bigger issue for all cars
Just went on vacation to Italy (Tuscany). My first big trip with my Model Y LR. We were 4 adullts and trunk & frunk full. We drove 2700km in total and consumed on average 168Wh/km. Most pleasantly surprised.
Another fantastic video. I'm looking forward to seeing the video of the long road trip you're planning.
Road trip was already several weeks ago! First part will drop this Friday. I then have an “East to West” road trip I am shooting in a few weeks. Peterhead (most easterly point in Scotland) to Ardnamurchan (westerly)…
Wow, I didn't expect that outcome! we've now done 10,000 miles in the Y and the long term average is 254 Wh/M based on short winter journeys, long motorway runs, cross country thrashes and slow speeds stuck behind lorries/tractors/caravans etc. Looking forward to the cross climate review, interested to see what sort of impact they have had on efficiency.
Yeah it surprised me too!
Another great video Ian. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Two follow-up comments: 1. If you had "warmed the car up" first before doing your chillax test, wouldn't that have improved the chillax efficiency? 2. If you drive using traffic-aware cruise control, I imagine I've noticed that my M3P is more efficient. That might be worth testing too
Great point - a sequel video is coming later on
I love driving my Model 3 LR - it's great fun!!
This is why I like auto regen, you can coast along without needing to feather the throttle, the car reads the road and the signs and adds regen if needed. Good demo of how to max the efficiency of an ev.
It's the friction breaks that really hurts your efficiency. I was pleasantly surprised by just how much energy I was getting back from regen when I rented one for 2 weeks
I will try something similar in my M3P. I reckon in full sport mode it will be more of a difference. I’ll report back!!!
Well I learned something there. I always thought more regen and green bar was better, so more range. I shall change my driving style!! 👍👍
It depends! Your car burns the least power when it’s at speed. You need minimal power to maintain speed on a flat surface. So if you can conserve that momentum you don’t need to burn more energy getting back up to speed. You always burn more than you regen
I've now done 2,700 miles in my 2020 M3P and the efficiency has been 268wh/mile, and it's had quite a few damn good thrashings.
Aberdeenshire, the Portugal of the North 😂
I am keeping my tesla model 3 LR HL on standard because I feel safe that I can accelerate past cars very easily and that makes for some reason me feel more safer. Having the power and control to pass in a very quick session on towards oncoming traffic is a safety concern for me.
I would like to see this same test done in mid winter, perhaps with the lights and heater running.
No problem! Won’t make that big a difference though
I have had my MY RWD for a month now. Yesterday, I did a 400 mile round trip of mostly motorway driving, although a mixture of roadworks and heavy traffic turned it into a mixed driving trip!
At the end, I was staggered to see that it had averaged 201wH / mile or very very nearly 5 m/kWh! For quite a large car, I think that's amazing! I did have the air con off because I didn't need it.
So that's probably the best it will do and gives a total range of 285 miles. Obviously it will be a lot lower in Winter but I rarely do long trips and even if I do, charging is so easy it doesn't matter. I won't go into the calcs but with my free supercharging miles, solar energy and Octopus GO, I reckon my total fuel cost over the 30,000 mile lease will be £50. So a bit less than the £4,500 the petrol would have cost for the ICE it replaced. Then there is the £1,000 saving in Road Tax, then the MOTs and maintenance. It all knock a big hole in the cost of the PCH
I drove it in the dark for the first time last night - anyone know what that little light bar to the right of the light indicators is saying? Something to do with the adaptive lights I suspect??
My only hate so far is the panel buzz when the road surface is anything less than perfect tarmac. The concrete surfaced M25 between 8 and 11 is my ultimate test and the Model Y fails miserably!!!
Interesting video. Coincidentally, I did something similar yesterday evening, over a longer and more varied route, and although I wasn't trying as hard as you were, I think I saw a bigger difference.
The route was from home to Glasgow and back, which is 46 miles one way, so 92 miles round trip. Like your route, there's a big height difference, my village is at 800 feet and Glasgow is near sea level. The road goes above 1,000 feet at least once, it's quite undulating. There are sections of country A road of varying quality, some minor roads, a good chunk of M8 including both rural and urban sections, and some city driving.
The car is a phase 1 MG4 SE SR with a 51 kwh LFP battery, so not nearly as long range as your Tesla, or as efficient.
In summer I would normally get into Glasgow on 75% battery, repeatedly, and home on 47-48%, basically gunning it as much as I feel like. The return journey is uphill, the evening is colder, and as there's less traffic around I probably go faster. (In winter I'm down to 32-33% when I get home.) Yesterday evening I wanted to conserve range, for a rather silly reason. My G99 export certificate for my new solar panels hasn't come through yet, so I'm exporting surplus solar for no benefit. I'm therefore trying to run the car entirely on sunshine until the paperwork comes through. I'm mean that way. The thing was, following on the evening trip to Glasgow yesterday I had two trips today, first to Edinburgh then to Peebles, totalling about 60 miles. I didn't want to charge off the mains overnight, and I didn't want to have to worry about running low coming back from Peebles with an elderly, fussy neighbour in the car. 150-160 miles from full is really nothing to the MG4 SE SR in summer, but I wanted to be sure.
So, since I was in no hurry yesterday, I thought I would see how economical I could be. The car stayed on maximum regeneration because it's a pain to change it on the fly in the MG4. I just tried to be gentle with my right foot, avoid hard acceleration, hold the country A road sections down to about 50 mph, and try not to come to a complete stop. I got in to Glasgow on 79% as opposed to 75%, and the car was showing 4.3 miles/kwh. (I said it wasn't as economical as a Tesla!) Interestingly, somewhere between Elsrickle and Newbiggin, I was overtaken by a rather impatient Clio. I wasn't trying to catch up with the car, but I did. I was ahead of it at Bogside, and still in touch when our paths diverged at the Newhouse junction of the M8. I was also only about three minutes longer than I would have expected, on a route that takes about an hour and a quarter at that time of day.
I admit to letting the car get up to 70 mph on the M8 both going and coming, because, well, that was how fast the traffic was moving.
On the way back, uphill and the temperature down to 14 degrees (it had been 18 degrees on the outward journey) I averaged 3.8 miles/kwh and got back on on 55% battery with 107 miles range remaining. Over the round trip the average was 4.1 miles/kwh. So obviously I was completely set for today, with a bit under 60 miles total to drive. Again I was only a few minutes later than I would have anticipated if I'd been gunning it.
I've noticed it before in this car. If I want a bit more range, ease off my usual enthusiastic progress (well, it's a bit of a rocket sled and it's fun), and the range just magically appears. Not having the Tesla software, I just programme my intended charging stop into Android Auto and sort of titrate the remaining distance shown to the stop against the remaining range shown on the car. Works a treat. Swung into Annandale Water one day on 4% charge and 6 miles remaining (which gives some idea of how fast I'd been going). If the comparison between the two distances had moved into negative balance (I'm shooting for about 10 miles range in hand, roughly), I could just have eased off a bit.
I need to do a longer run for comparison. The hard bit is a controlled test route
@@justgetatesla I think the road I drive to Glasgow would be quite good. West Linton to the city centre. A702, A721, A73, M8, then back. You can do a neutral detour round by Dunsyre for a bit of narrow country road - had to do that on the way home as the A702 was closed at Dolphinton. If you're ever down this way, give it a try.
It's 92 miles, which is a good test, but given that it takes about 70 minutes one way, so maybe two and a half hours round trip, you'd need to be careful to control for the time of day - pressure of traffic and temperature.
Ian, the test is missing a third one which is Standard mode but not flooring it. Chill mode merely changes the response profile from the accelerator input and also expects less demand on power so in a small way is supposed to reduce energy for heating the battery. What i'm getting at is that driving in Standard mode but driving gently is pretty much the same result as Chill, merely because Chill limits the throttle response output.
In my rwd 60kWh 2022 Model Y, chill mode knocks 50kW off the power, dropping from 220kW to 170. It is really noticeable on hard acceleration.
@@greghudson9717 Yes exactly but that's my point here, drive gently in standard mode and there's no noticeable difference in efficiency.
This is what I find amusing when I read the often repeated trope about how tyres on EV's don't last long due to the torque available.
That torque is optional! Floor it every time and expect that result, drive it moderately and get a different result.
That's the missing comparison though, standard mode and driven gently, in the same resulting style as chill delivers.
I leave mine in standard and most of the time just drive it gently because no reason to hoof it everywhere. 🙂
i find the most economical way to drive, is to use cruise control as much as possible :)
Not always. Cruise accelerates and brakes too hard to be smooth, even in chill mode
@@justgetatesla in a Tesla but not in Hyundai Kona where u have more settings :)
Interesting. For a long term project, could be useful for people thinking about an EV,if you did this circuit over the four different seasons, especially when there is a lot of hysteria about winter range.
That’s really interesting. I currently drive an evil diesel and the difference between chillax and hoon mode is massive. It is a big SUV though.
Was the same in my Outlander PHEV
Interesting results, but I do wonder how many additional miles that would actually work out for a long trip. Would the 13% matchthe extra range?
Hi Ian, good video. First thing most people ask me is how far will my 2022 Long Range Model Y go like yours. If you cruise on long motorway journeys at lets say the speed limit plus 10% on Autopilot the consumption is around 333wh/m or 3 1/3 miles per kw. With a 75kw battery that is a motorway range of 225 miles, all load and very little regeneration. In traffic very different and often will return 250wh/m or 4miles per kw. A real range of 300 miles but who drives 300 miles in traffic? Overall my long average over 29,699 miles is 299wh/m or 3.34 miles per kw. A usual range of 250 miles. Have never used chill mode. 20" wheels and Michelin Pilot sport tyres. Hope that helps. (Model Y performance test drive next Monday!)
There will be a video or two coming soon with me driving the length of the country and back
The average for the life of my 2023 model Y LR with acceleration boost is 311 wh/m, but that includes doing 120mph on German autobahns and a lot of sustained high speed driving (as limits allow). I do have the larger wheels, but do really floor the car at every opportunity - I love the acceleration boost which really makes it feel like a sports car to drive, while having the practicability of an SUV. However I do have free unlimited supercharging through legacy transfer, so don’t worry much about consumption. I just like enjoying the car!
I'm on 145wh per km over 43000km, mostly freeway driving at 110kph.
I find that my x climate tyres feel as though they are sticking on the road on corners sometimes
What would the comparative economy be if you did the same route in autopilot as much as possible?
You are the second person to ask that question - I will have to redo it
@@justgetatesla does that mean I get a credit then?! 😀
My Model Y is on order, coming from an Audi Q4. Software in the Tesla is light years ahead and so easy to put it on autopilot. Be interesting to see if it makes much impact.
In the Q4 it obviously reacts to certain parameters and that leads to more inefficient braking and accelerating than a competent human would allow.
Do you think the fact that the battery was fully warmed up for the second run had an influence? Would it be the same if hammer time was run 1?
Good question!
@@TheRgnvideo No influence at all. Tesla doesn’t warm the battery during driving. It only does it when the programmed "preheat to charge" is activated. So no, the battery temperature had no influence in this case. Especially when the temperatures were above 10C.
G'Day Ian. I have another 'test' for you... Any chance you could do the whole run one more time, but using AutoPilot as much as possible - I'm sure people would be interested to see if the computer can drive more efficiently than a human ? Regards, Greg, from Australia... Now I'm going to turn off chill mode 🙂
I am in the States with an MY that has FSD. I've noticed that the difference between doing a run without FSD, and having FSD active throughout, is around a 2%-5% saving with FSD...I'd guess Autopilot would have a similar positive effect.
Not our autopilot on those roads!
@@justgetatesla Fair enough. It was a dumb request. Please ignore or delete !
One of the best features of a Tesla is the regen. Not using it makes your test unrealistic.
It *was* using regen. But basic physics demonstrates that if you burn energy to accelerate and then regen slowing down, you have a net loss of energy. The most efficient way to travel is to maintain momentum- expending minimal energy.
If drive like a grandma, you might get close to the advertised range. If you drive normally you won't get close. If you drive sporty, not even close. That's not counting weather, load, cargo, A/C etc.
Is this a road?
looking forward to my road trip from London to Scotland ... that's the dream 😀
Within three years the model 3’s rolling off the line will probably have real world 400 miles achieved easily then god knows 500, 600 miles that is beginning to get over kill. A breakthrough although I don’t think there will be just one as so many companies and institutions are working on the next great thing spending billions on research will move the bar so much in terms of costs of packs, density and weight. Battery degradation will be something silly like 3% the lifetime of the pack.
Trouble is it’s a bit like the iPhones people wait for the newest and biggest jump not buying the present one hoping the next model is the one. The iPhone 15 was fine but it was rushed out and they had dropped things that they had suggested because of not being ready. Now all the stuff dropped is now finished and ready and going in the 16. 😂 Every year EV’s get more impressive for people not to ignore.
Range. All, I say ALL motor vehicles range depends on how you drive, Who doesn't know this. The issue with EV's is that they carry such a small amount of energy, the range is a much bigger and much more inconvenient issue. Unlike ICE which can use the free engine heat to keep the passengers warm, EVs must use battery, sometimes as much as moving the car.
1 Kg of petrol is approx. same energy as 30 Kg of battery. A medium EV is carrying around the battery weight of about 4 adults all the time.
Not good for city traffic, so the only way to get anywhere near the specified range is to drive on a nice 24C daytime no head lights, no rain, no stopping, no cornering, no slowing down, tyres at the correct pressure, correct ECO tyres, a nice steady 50Km/Hr, no music, no laptop charging, ... these are why range is an issue. I suspect most people get about half the range with normal vehicle use.
You do know that almost all of that is FUD?
For non locals, "the broch" is Fraserburgh.
Chillax is pretty much how I drive in snow.
The big difference is really seen at speeds over 60 due to the aerodynamic drag being based off the square of the speed.
The main conclusion from this is that you are struggling to create content.
Could you just remind me how accelerating hard wherever possible, increasing tyre wear, and road surface wear is beneficial for the environment.......I understood we were trying to rectify an environmental crisis with EV's?!?! 🤣
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You understood wrong. Frankly, if it were EVs that were wrecking the planet and we were all being urged to drive ICE cars to save it, you'd have a hard sell on your hands for a lot of EV drivers. You think we're martyring ourselves for the good of the environment? That's just a bit of gravy. We're driving EVs because they're great to drive; quiet, clean and go like a bat out of hell. They're extremely cheap to run and maintain, and they have all sorts of other cute advantages like VtL (power cut? run your house off the car battery) and pre-heating and pre-cooling before a journey.
So rethink your attitudes.
There's an environmental impact, but in Northern Scotland the grid is powered off wind and rain predominantly. Peterhead (gas) power station only runs when it's not windy - that'll remain the case until the interlinks South are beefed up.
The "environmental impact" (in this area) is therefore limited to slightly increased tyre wear and marginally less curtailment of wind turbines.
Discounting road surface wear, EVs may be heavy but they're nowhere near as heavy as fuel tankers.
@@grahamleiper1538I wouldn’t have bothered answering this broom comes ver as a complete clown that knows sod all about EV’s the only thing I see struggling is him to understand. North of Scotland Electric generation normally sits around 100% because of wind that produces 140% of or yearly needs we have so much, Hydro storage and a touch of solar. They are building one of Europes biggest battery storage sites near me on a huge windfarm whitelee that at one point was the biggest onshore wind farms but others have now surpassed it abroad. The idiots think EV owners are all tree huggers and environmental when it’s not the case it’s just better for daily use and you actually use the car more because it’s cheaper to run.
@@grahamleiper1538 I haven't even seen any robust evidence that EVs have significantly more tyre wear. The study that gets trotted out is laughable. There are a lot of factors that contribute to tyre wear, and the 50/50 weight distribution of EVs and the tendency of EV drivers not to go in for heavy braking may completely cancel out the effect of the slightly greater weight of the car.
I'd quite like to see a study of the mitigation of both tyre particulates and road damage that would occur if you took all fuel tankers off the road.
@@moragkerr9577 I was referring to the different environmental impact of the "fast" loop.
The fuel tanker comment is my go to when anybody tells me my heavy car is destroying the roads.