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  • Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
  • Brian Windhorst is joined by Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to react to Nikola Jokic’s monster performance to lead the Denver Nuggets over the Timberwolves, Jalen Brunson and the Knicks winning the hustle battle to take Game 5, if New York can beat the Pacers on the road for the first time in this playoff run, why the Mavs need more from Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic against the Thunder and if the Celtics can close out the Cavs at home despite struggling there in the playoffs.
    0:00 Intro
    2:22 Jokic Dominates Timberwolves To Take 3-2 Lead
    15:48 Knicks Get Huge Game 5 Win
    19:39 “Reliable Connection” Huge Impact Of Brunson-McBride Pick & Roll
    33:17 Key To The Rest Of Mavs-Thunder
    50:32 Can Boston Close Out The Cavs In 5?
    1:04:33 Thanks For Watching!
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  • @Imsohighrightnow2
    @Imsohighrightnow2 26 днів тому +9

    Jalen brunson is like Allen iverson skills with Chauncey billups leadership.
    He's been a champion at every level basketball, High School, Mr Illinois basketball. Took USA u-18 to a gold medal.
    College 2 time national champion with Villanova.
    Dragged mavs with no Luka to the WCF, then now has turned the knicks into a team that are 1 game away from the same feat.
    He'll be a champion at the professional level too, maybe not this year but definitely in his career. 💯 🏀 👑

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 26 днів тому +3

      I was with you until two parts. Luka dominated in the second round. Brunson just backpacked the first round against the Jazz. And its gonna be rlly tough for him to get a ring. West is stacked.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +1

      He has absolutely smashed my expectations of him, out of seemingly nowhere, so severely that I just cannot doubt him carrying a team to the chip.

    • @vivekwarrier8371
      @vivekwarrier8371 26 днів тому +2

      He dragged the Mavs to the 2nd round. Luka was healthy and playing for the Pheonix series.

  • @1800LUNATIC
    @1800LUNATIC 25 днів тому +3

    This 4 year peak is as good as youre gonna see. GOAT level offensive production at the highest level

  • @Chiefmane1
    @Chiefmane1 26 днів тому +51

    Jokic is cementing himself as a top 15 player all time

    • @DrewGeezer69
      @DrewGeezer69 26 днів тому +18

      15? Top 10 for sure

    • @kohta20
      @kohta20 26 днів тому +8

      He’s def above Shaq already!

    • @reclusedoggo3513
      @reclusedoggo3513 26 днів тому

      Too soon buddy, though shaq is a boring retarded old person we need more like 2 year of mvp level more jokic and maybe atleast 2 more trophy if 3 total and 3 mvp(which he has)​@@kohta20

    • @Jaetootact
      @Jaetootact 26 днів тому +9

      @@kohta20relax not yet, he might get there though

    • @cdknowledge
      @cdknowledge 26 днів тому +9

      ​@@Jaetootactskill wise, yes- Jokic is the far more skilled basketballer.
      Idgaf about awards and trophies - that doesn't factor into how skillful a player is.

  • @AW-um2jg
    @AW-um2jg 26 днів тому +9

    Everyone is now a hindsight analyst after Nuggets win 3 straight. Most analysts essentially said the series was over went T-Wolves went up 2:0

    • @jdubb9688
      @jdubb9688 26 днів тому +1

      Not me brother. I called it after game 2. They looked the same against the Jazz in the bubble. Bad. Against Gobert and Connelly. They were resilient just as they were here. Our memories are short. Mine too, but here I trust Jok. He’s a madman with the ball and his mind. The more time with someone the more lethal he is.
      Patience Daniel Son.

  • @TheKingOfAllTrades
    @TheKingOfAllTrades 26 днів тому +17

    Two words: DENVER NUGGETS 💪🏽

  • @dre32pitt
    @dre32pitt 26 днів тому +16

    There are only 2 'intros' I dont skip... Bosch and The Hoop Collective

    • @kraw3026
      @kraw3026 26 днів тому +3

      Cant skip the Lowe Post intro 😂😂

    • @RandomNumber6598
      @RandomNumber6598 26 днів тому +2

      You should watch the No Dunks Podcast. The best intros in the game

    • @daniel2pantoja
      @daniel2pantoja 26 днів тому +3

      @@kraw3026 WELCOME TO

    • @TheJacobHudman
      @TheJacobHudman 26 днів тому +2

      Never skip The Lowe Post intro

    • @kraw3026
      @kraw3026 26 днів тому +2

      @@daniel2pantojaFuckin hilarious

  • @ShermanSitter
    @ShermanSitter 26 днів тому +1

    The silence after MacMahon read the first definition of crucible was hilarious. :)

  • @tyrellfloyd7366
    @tyrellfloyd7366 26 днів тому +3

    Best podcast 💯

  • @kyleclark4650
    @kyleclark4650 26 днів тому +2

    Thank you for talking real talk on the Thunder game! some of the only ones who actually speak on the game and not just Luka being hurt or whatever other bs hating from everyone on the media besides Bryan and few others! Why I listen to yall!

  • @CvddleFish
    @CvddleFish 26 днів тому +3

    As a Thunder season ticket holder, we know that Giddey needs to be benched lol. Everyone wants that 😂

  • @ginosantillan3383
    @ginosantillan3383 26 днів тому +6

    Can one of you guys ask Hartenstein how he says his name?!

    • @ProfDrDrN0
      @ProfDrDrN0 26 днів тому +2

      if you wanna pronounce it the german way you'd have to pronounce the 'ei' like 'I', definitely not like 'ee'...

  • @IcebergSSBU
    @IcebergSSBU 25 днів тому +1

    I randomly had a dream that Bontemps got an award at a NBA game, and the entire crowd booed him while he was walking to center court to receive it.

  • @screw41
    @screw41 26 днів тому +3

    Time for Luka to use his 2 buddies’ performances as inspiration to show out in Game 5 vs OKC

  • @tyrellfloyd7366
    @tyrellfloyd7366 26 днів тому

    Always look forward to it

  • @donbatag
    @donbatag 26 днів тому +2

    Brooooo rest up geeezzz

  • @mikedean2485
    @mikedean2485 25 днів тому

    Best comedy show ever 🥳

  • @HelmerFud4
    @HelmerFud4 26 днів тому +5

    Jokic and the nuggets were actively targeting Gobert, the DPOY. They wanted him on the court and gaurding jokic. Idk how many times this has happened in the NBA where the DPOY is being absolutely cooked like this

    • @squadup22
      @squadup22 26 днів тому +3

      The year Tyson Chandler won DPOY for the knicks got bodied by Roy Hibbert in the playoffs.

    • @jeffreyware7808
      @jeffreyware7808 26 днів тому +4

      In 2001 the 4x dpoy, dikembe mutumbo, played the MVP from the previous year, Shaq, in the finals and Shaq massacred him. Great offense will always prevail

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +3

      People plugging examples like this is what makes the internet amazing.

  • @kalebduggar4251
    @kalebduggar4251 26 днів тому +1

    39:39 I’m getting real scary campfire story vibes from McMahon.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому

      "NeW yOrK cItY!??" (Legendary Pace picante sauce commercials 80's and 90's for you non-geriatrics)

  • @unconditionalLove1
    @unconditionalLove1 26 днів тому +4

    Wemby already is probably the best defender of Jokic but Jokic still gets his against him lol

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому

      Should be an interesting matchup over the years as Wemby gets bigger. Was surprised at how well he matched up this year already.

    • @brashadcarr6759
      @brashadcarr6759 26 днів тому +2

      Joke averaged like 34​@@Earl_E_Burd

    • @mollyweir9350
      @mollyweir9350 26 днів тому +4

      Nope. OG defends Jokic well as the primary defender when he was on Raps under NN. Defending Jokic requires more than size& height.

  • @Caos666Lord
    @Caos666Lord 26 днів тому +2

    Hahahaaha Tim MacMahon is funny as hell ;D the jokes about Mat Ishbiathe Suns owner lol 🤣🤣

  • @muneeb2001
    @muneeb2001 26 днів тому +3

    Love the podcast. Polite suggestion. Please stop saying ‘curb stomped’.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому

      Makes me cringe every time. I add it to my list of deprecated sayings that show someone who is emotionally repressed and hasn't done their work, which Bontemps checks many of those boxes.

  • @lolpredictions
    @lolpredictions 26 днів тому

    3:39 Drayclown on tnt: i disagree 😂

  • @KNICKSBUZZ
    @KNICKSBUZZ 26 днів тому

    Once the Deuce got Loose, the Pacers are Caboose

  • @ashamsthomas2490
    @ashamsthomas2490 24 дні тому

    The Thunder are a legitimate contender?! Bontemps is crazy 😂😂😂

  • @killout18
    @killout18 26 днів тому +5

    I want to be flown all over America and stay in hotels too Brian Windhorst, let me be your apprentice or something dammit. I already tell everyone irl at work you are the smartest person on espn and continually destroy everyone on your panels

    • @AW-um2jg
      @AW-um2jg 26 днів тому +1

      Do you want to live in Omaha though too?

    • @dskwared2u610
      @dskwared2u610 26 днів тому +2

      If you've ever had a job that keeps you on the road, it really gets old quickly. He's not there on vacation.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +1

      Being a road warrior is a fastpass to: 80-hr workweeks, bad sleep habits, terrible eating habits (major socializing component), and surrounded by alcoholics who are on their 4th marriage. Did it for 8 years for IT projects. Just sayin.

  • @TulioMCano
    @TulioMCano 26 днів тому +4

    You guys don't think Embiid has given trouble to Jokic in the past (defensively), or Wemby in that last game blocked him a couple of times and won a game the Nuggets were actually trying to win. Otherwise, no one can guard him. He is 1 of 1, undisputed best player in the league.

    • @brashadcarr6759
      @brashadcarr6759 26 днів тому +2

      Joel doesn't guard joker I'm their matchups

    • @TulioMCano
      @TulioMCano 20 днів тому

      @@brashadcarr6759 he has guarded him most of his matchups, this year they tried different things bc Nick Nurse was the coach

  • @juliothom2408
    @juliothom2408 26 днів тому +3

    Celtic fans do not care about who is in front of them. All they can do is beat who is in front of them.
    Quit complaining about Boston whipping these teams! They're supposed to.

    • @p7superfly
      @p7superfly 26 днів тому +2

      East is so weak. Especially with the injuries.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому

      They talk about the Knicks getting depleted as a bad thing/unsustainable, but then supposedly the Celtics not getting depleted is a bad thing?

  • @helbingstein8429
    @helbingstein8429 26 днів тому +2

    Windy losing weight. Pretty good.

  • @doppelganger3992
    @doppelganger3992 26 днів тому

    CSI Windy, whats on the bottle?

  • @ljutko7
    @ljutko7 26 днів тому +3

    U all must admit he's destroying nba for 4 straight years and he's best in the world for 4 years. He top 10 already. U all must admit it and u all gonna fill so much better i promise you! 🙌💥😉🤫

    • @Imthecoach1
      @Imthecoach1 26 днів тому

      Haha weirdo. Suck him off then.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +1

      Top 10 all have long runs. He is well on his well but people love recency bias and prisoner of the moment. Give it time. Steph was unanimous MVP, beloved by all, and had to get 4 chips before being discussed in top 11.

  • @cindyfagerstrom8825
    @cindyfagerstrom8825 25 днів тому

    As OKC physically and mentally mature, they'll overtake the Nuggets. They are so young. They have the right coach to develope talent, playing at least 10 guys in the regular season rotation. Presti has used Sam Hinkie's formula, minus chronic injuries to the best player.

  • @logancolston8061
    @logancolston8061 26 днів тому

    Jokic does back-scratchers in game?? Mike Malone must have turned up his vertical from 27 to 47 lol

  • @reeceyrozay8437
    @reeceyrozay8437 26 днів тому +6

    Brian looks sleepy lol

    • @GdnationNY
      @GdnationNY 26 днів тому

      Dude has to do getup in studio! He looks like bleach!

    • @dskwared2u610
      @dskwared2u610 26 днів тому

      He always looks that way.

  • @serge6885
    @serge6885 24 дні тому

    3-3

  • @Raider2Pac
    @Raider2Pac 25 днів тому +2

    Let's stop saying curb stomp, it's truly disturbing imagery

  • @michaelpatalano9884
    @michaelpatalano9884 26 днів тому +1

    I CAN WATCH NBA PODCASTS AGAIN!!!

  • @ssjohnson23
    @ssjohnson23 26 днів тому

    benching giddey was a mistake bontemps

  • @calebbongalos3828
    @calebbongalos3828 21 день тому

    Tim Bontemps the coach. 😂

  • @SojiRo23
    @SojiRo23 26 днів тому +5

    Mike Conley has an Achilles injury?
    That suuuuux.
    He’s 80% of Minnesota’s IQ.

    • @Big_AL_Nowitzki
      @Big_AL_Nowitzki 26 днів тому

      What you talking about lmaooooo. 15% if that. AE literally won them 2 games

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +1

      @@Big_AL_Nowitzki If AE didn't have elite, elite athleticism and shooting, he would be bouncing around the league. He's still learning the game and has just started scratching the surface of playmaking.

  • @FunNHonesty
    @FunNHonesty 26 днів тому +3

    Shaq is the laziest top 15 player in his sport of all time. Shaq was not a skilled basketball player. He just gained a bunch of weight at nearly 400 POUNDS and became an immovable object and probably 24-28% body fat. This means he was very chubby/nearly obese. He had two post moves and that was it. He didn’t learn how to shoot anything, had a ton of help in his career from First Team NBA stars, and his coaches were all aware of his hypersensitive.
    He is still a top 4 center in NBA history. Duncan played more C than PF so you can say top 5 at his position.

  • @travissmith6380
    @travissmith6380 26 днів тому +8

    What is the point in having RUDY in the playoffs??? I get JOKIC is the best but at this point Rudy is a liability. These guys are handing the 4 TIME DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the year a PASS?????

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +2

      Especially when you have Naz Reid

  • @cindyfagerstrom8825
    @cindyfagerstrom8825 26 днів тому

    I want to know who it is that has invaded Kyrie Irving's body? Defense first, just fitting in and doing the little things to win? Kevin Durant put out an APB for his friend, Kyrie Irving.

  • @dailyromznation615
    @dailyromznation615 26 днів тому +5

    Jokic dominating the league just proved American players are no longer the best players in the world. İnternational players are going to dominate NBA few years from now

    • @HRMxGreat
      @HRMxGreat 26 днів тому +4

      So what bro why do you act like the rest of the world is disabled or something bring it on the more talent the better

    • @videoorgy
      @videoorgy 26 днів тому +1

      Lol. The best players are still overwhelmingly American. It's not like there's 10 Jokers in the NBA.

    • @Ronski1900
      @Ronski1900 26 днів тому +4

      He right the top 4 players in the league this year are all international Jokic SGA Luka & Gannis

    • @realtalk6720
      @realtalk6720 26 днів тому +2

      International players were always the better players, they just never really get the opportunity to show their talents until in the 90s and they were the ones with US affiliation. The others are lost in the sauce because people were only interested on the college US players

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 26 днів тому +1

      I'd say now its just fair across the board. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Shai, Ant, and Wemby will likely dominate the league for the next 5 years. Lots of different countries with France on the rise for sure.

  • @ProfDrDrN0
    @ProfDrDrN0 26 днів тому

    Dallas swept the Lakers in 2011 when they were the defending champs...

  • @Ronski1900
    @Ronski1900 26 днів тому

    Nuggets Should Advance but it’s Still going 7 OKC wins tonight also but Mavs win 7 Cavs playoffs over Mitchell should wanna be traded if cabs don’t get help Knicks gone win in 7 pacers trash on the road great at home

  • @iameric6636
    @iameric6636 26 днів тому +1

    By the way………….

    • @iameric6636
      @iameric6636 26 днів тому +1

      Take a drink geez dude by the way……

  • @Asteroid-rp2jg
    @Asteroid-rp2jg 26 днів тому +1

    Give me a nuggets-Knicks finals. Knicks are the only team that can give Denver a fight.

    • @mollyweir9350
      @mollyweir9350 26 днів тому

      Stop it. How about you all get through the semis first. This is why Draymond Green came out and put NyKnicks fans on notice. The playoffs are no cake in the park. If Rick & some of his players played with some mental toughness & want to they would have been the one closing out the series on Friday. Game 1 especially at MSG was theirs to win & Hali and others let the officiating get to them. If you think Celtics will let Brunson run amok like he did with Pacers if Knicks advanced you will be humble.

  • @cindyfagerstrom8825
    @cindyfagerstrom8825 25 днів тому

    Darius Garland is just too small to be paired with Donovan Mitchell in today's NBA. Length, length and length. If you don't have it, you better be Steph Curry.

  • @keithedwards8365
    @keithedwards8365 26 днів тому +1

    Joker is an all timer on one side of the ball but im curious why every team in the league doesnt hunt s him on defense on EVERY single possession, at worst you get a good shot in an iso and the best case scenario you get him in foul trouble an get him off the floor

    • @c0n323
      @c0n323 26 днів тому +6

      You don't watch him

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +3

      2nd in Def. rebounds, 8th in total steals. He has quick hands. He gets blocks and steals. When he gets beat he doesn't make dumb fouls. He's a big boy to go through, gotta speed past him.

    • @mollyweir9350
      @mollyweir9350 26 днів тому

      ​@@Earl_E_BurdI know what the person is talking about. He is a little slow and his lateral movement is not good. Steal & rebounds are only part of D. Steals especially is not a good determinant of being a good defender.

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +2

      One thing to be sure of is that commenters on yt know better than 29 other nba coaching staffs.

    • @keithedwards8365
      @keithedwards8365 26 днів тому +1

      @Earl_E_Burd as an example the podcast after game 2 I think Bontemps was making the point of how many times the wolves were putting Murray an Joker specifically into the PnR at the same time an the success rate was astronomical, if I want a favorable 1v1 matchup I'd rather go against Jokic instead of KCP/Gordon/MPJ or even Murray.. point I'm making is go at the weakest link and force the other team to adjust so something else opens up for you

  • @markhamjango4769
    @markhamjango4769 26 днів тому

    This clearly show how Denver took all the energy from BW😂🤣😂 He seems tired talking about how denver is beating the wolves..

  • @mrj5695
    @mrj5695 26 днів тому +2

    Nuggets smoked Minnesota 420

  • @Lil-Lani
    @Lil-Lani 26 днів тому

    You guys go so easy on Tyrese haliburton he played bad in game 1 and game 5 these are soft takes

  • @helbingstein8429
    @helbingstein8429 26 днів тому

    United States
    (15) “United States” means- (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
    Source
    28 USC § 3002(15)

  • @nickels317
    @nickels317 26 днів тому +1

    When did the nba start allowing you to switch pivot foots without it being called ?? Joker’s a beast but he was doing it all night.

    • @ljutko7
      @ljutko7 26 днів тому

      Hahah that's becouse u dumb casual 🤡😉🤫

    • @Earl_E_Burd
      @Earl_E_Burd 26 днів тому +1

      I saw that, too. They went from 2 steps, to 3 steps, to 3.5 steps and can change pivot foots if you do it in a certain way.

  • @theoaklandpanda9129
    @theoaklandpanda9129 26 днів тому

    Re: Jokic - SHAQ would eat his breakfast, lunch and dinner.

  • @zissiskonstantinou3311
    @zissiskonstantinou3311 26 днів тому

    I will respectfully disagree with "there isn't a person alive that can guard Jokic when he is cooking".
    Giannis, AD, and Embiid can, and you will soon see Jaren Jackson Jr in Memphis, Wemby in San Antonio, and Jalen Duran in Detroit be valid candidates in the future.
    In the case of the young talent referenced, they will get seasoned with experience, get physically stronger, and be even more effective than they are today.
    Don't look at Gobert looking like a "two left feet dancer" on the perimeter when guarding Jokic, he clearly doesn't use his feet properly when asked to defend like a guard.
    Even in the low post defence he lets Jokic get around him on the baseline and under the hoop, thus negating his height.
    If Gobert were smart, he'd be cutting him off at the baseline and forcing him into the middle so a perimeter player would collapse/double, or have the weak side 7 footer come for assistance on a block.
    Worse case scenario, Jokic pulls up for a fade away jumper on the baseline, and should be make it, hats off to him.
    The minute Gobert allows Joker to straddle and dribble along the baseline, it is over because the defense is now broken.
    ....but that is a coaching issue.
    And it stupefying to see such poor defensive strategy (baseline protection) on an NBA/Professional team.

    • @videoorgy
      @videoorgy 26 днів тому +5

      Lol.

    • @ljutko7
      @ljutko7 26 днів тому +2

      Love u so SALTY it's hurts a lot i can smell from here, 😭🤣 LOVEEEE IT 😉🤫🤡

    • @zissiskonstantinou3311
      @zissiskonstantinou3311 26 днів тому

      @@ljutko7
      Huh? Salty?
      I have no doubt that Embiid and Giannis are more effective players. Their defensive prowess is undeniable.

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 26 днів тому +3

      This hilarious. AD gets absolutely cooked by Jokic. Wemby probably the only one. Would love to see Giannis Jokic or Embiid Jokic in a 7 game matchup bt those two dudes are slacking

    • @Shortballa11
      @Shortballa11 26 днів тому +2

      ALso why did you put Duren in there when he isnt close to the best defender of the young guys. Chet, Wemby, and Mobley are the next generation of great big men defenders.