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  • @evanschmidt3661
    @evanschmidt3661 Місяць тому +38

    Wisconsin inherited their identity from Nebraska, we just lost our way for about 25 years.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому +3

      They've had a nice run since Alvarez turned things around, then while he was AD. Not sure it will continue. They're going to have their hands full this year, starting Saturday.

    • @rednil
      @rednil Місяць тому +5

      I tell Badger fans this all the time

    • @Corey-dy2cq
      @Corey-dy2cq Місяць тому

      What does that mean?

    • @TwilightEndZone
      @TwilightEndZone Місяць тому +6

      It means Alvarez was a Husker and did a “copy and paste” (as Ted put it) for the Badgers’ program.
      Like it or not, the truth is that without Alvarez implementing what Nebraska had been doing during his tenure at Wisconsin - as a coach and AD, the Badgers might have just been average at best.
      They certainly wouldn’t have had such a Nebraska blueprint (smash-mouth, power football) that’s for sure.

    • @jamesasmith2494
      @jamesasmith2494 Місяць тому +3

      @@TwilightEndZone I want to add to this. I am a Texan but a Corn husker fan since the late sixties. Nebraska made power football relevant. Tom Osborne perfected it in the eighties.

  • @dionpryor369
    @dionpryor369 Місяць тому +27

    What people dont understand is Nebraska has more money than people on the outside think..we are a top NIL school ..what that does is give players the money to fly their parents fist class to Lincoln Nebraska..this nobody wants to go there is a lie..

    • @GOATkilr
      @GOATkilr Місяць тому +3

      Also, Lincoln is a bigger city than Madison. Look it up. Everyone pretends it’s a small town in the middle of no where but it’s one of the bigger college towns in the big ten outside of major cities.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому +1

      @@GOATkilr It's bigger than Tuscaloosa or Athens, for whatever that's worth (not much).

    • @braydenr4015
      @braydenr4015 Місяць тому

      @@GOATkilr I've lived in both places, comparable in terms of metro area populations. Both are very nice!

    • @akeffo
      @akeffo Місяць тому

      Lincoln may be bigger but Madison is a much more beautiful city. Sorry there’s no comparison.

    • @braydenr4015
      @braydenr4015 Місяць тому

      @@akeffo not saying you’re wrong at all, Lincoln’s got its charm too though. Madison is stunning

  • @Levi-tm4gl
    @Levi-tm4gl Місяць тому +3

    Wisconsin didn't need to modernize they needed to actually staff and fund a recruiting department

  • @bosshawga2256
    @bosshawga2256 Місяць тому

    Always appreciate your content on the huskers

  • @KSigsGolfer
    @KSigsGolfer Місяць тому +14

    I think Neb had all the ingredients needed to be a winning program EXCEPT good coaching. Resources, facilities, roster talent, NIL, university backing, fan support has never been the problem at Nebraska. It’s easy to think Fickell was coming into a better situation just because WI had been winning more recently - but that might not be the full picture.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому

      I've heard the program described as a tempramental sports car... if you get everything working properly it's great, but when you don't have everything just so it's struggle. I guess we're going to find out.

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому +5

      I visited Lincoln this summer, those facilities are LEGIT. Wisconsin has a 30+ year old McClain Center that doesn't even had a 100 yard practice field, and is probably one of the bottom facilities in the Big Ten. They are rebuilding/renovating it and it should be great in a few years, but UNL is on another level with the facilities and NIL investment.

    • @jamesasmith2494
      @jamesasmith2494 Місяць тому

      @@BigTenTed And with championships. Nebraska is still a blue blood.

  • @dennisyoung7363
    @dennisyoung7363 Місяць тому +6

    I'm glad you did this video. It's a similar-similar comparison. We've been following the battle of total opposites Prime vs Rhule. That's no competition.

    • @dionpryor369
      @dionpryor369 Місяць тому +3

      Great comment 👍
      GBR 🌽🏈🌽🔥🔥

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому +2

      One thing I didn't mention, Luke Fickell probably had a better jumping off point than where Frost left Nebraska, yet Rhule has the Huskers in a better spot than the Badgers.

    • @ColonelAngus2
      @ColonelAngus2 Місяць тому +1

      ⁠correct

    • @dennisyoung7363
      @dennisyoung7363 Місяць тому +1

      @@BigTenTed I'm most impressed by Rhule's non stop energy. He expects the same from everyone else. That might be the ultimate key to his success.

    • @ZER08888
      @ZER08888 Місяць тому

      ​@@BigTenTedLuke Fickell was head coach of Ohio State when Nebraska beat them last in Lincoln after LeVonte David knocked out Braxton Miller before half time rallying the huskers for their biggest comeback in school history 28+ points? Also, Dylan's Riaola was coming irregardless of who was coach. Rhule and Satterfield made a splash hire with Tony White but the defense was never the issue under Frost the QB was. As a husker fan I would have preferred we waited for Dylan to give frost a shot at turning the corner and he would have. Also, everyone is hooray over Colorado that just went 3-1 against us which can't be explained considering by my rough numbers are showing Nebraska alone on tv contracts has generated over $500 million more than Colorado since we parted big 12 ways. So I say, who's ahead of who and where please frame it.

  • @nnonotnow
    @nnonotnow Місяць тому +6

    Nebraska fans feel like we're going back to our Roots. Wisconsin adopted Nebraska's philosophy when Barry Alvarez who played at Nebraska? Went to Wisconsin. Nebraska fans have always been run the damn ball. And always been about the importance of the line play. Really happy with how coach rule has built this team using what was there and what he recruited and some transfers. He's really got his finger on the pulse of the entire program. Wisconsin fans need to be patient with Luke. These kinds of transitions aren't easy. I think he's a good coach. Wish them the best.
    Beat Alabama. So that'll look good for us when we beat you later this year. 😉

  • @Ericrawnsley
    @Ericrawnsley Місяць тому +5

    Matt rhule is a top tier college coach. Fickle is probably a second or 3rd tier coach. Still good, but probably should be a big12 or acc coach not big10

  • @ahills-plays6471
    @ahills-plays6471 Місяць тому +6

    As a wisconsin fan I’m not even mad they made the move. After watching Ohio state embarrassed us at there place in 21 and belima out coaching Paul chryst that year I will always agree with it weather it works or not.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому +1

      Sounds kind of like Pelini: won a lot of games but you knew they were never going to win the big ones. Programs with these types of coaches are in a difficult place.

    • @Rodgerzgoat
      @Rodgerzgoat Місяць тому +2

      @@DillyPutty won a lot in 2015-2019. not afterwards. he sucked since 2020 and stopped recruiting

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Місяць тому

      @@DillyPutty
      People said the same thing about Tom Osborne: lost his first 6 years (1972-1977) to arch-rival Oklahoma (Nebraska’s current governor was a hero of the game that Nebraska finally won against OU in 1978), & also lost 7 straight bowl games (1987-1993).

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому

      @@augiegirl1 Osborne took over in 1973 and finished in the AP top 12 every year until 1990. Pelini's best finish was 14th (his only top 15 finish) with arguably the best player in CFB this century (who he inherited). No comparison.

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Місяць тому

      @@DillyPutty I stand corrected (I wasn't born until 1978, 16 days after Osborne’s first win against Oklahoma), but my point still stands. I distinctly remember during the 7 years of bowl losses that people said he “couldn't win the big one”. The reason the Huskers switched from the 5/2 to 4/3 on defense was to keep up with the Florida schools.

  • @catfeline1530
    @catfeline1530 Місяць тому +5

    I'm glad Illinois got Bret, he's actually the reason why both these coaches have these jobs lol

  • @austinberry3299
    @austinberry3299 Місяць тому +1

    One thing I will say about Scott Frost is that his playing years were my introduction into football as I was born in 89. His playing days were the best Nebraska football in my lifetime so far. So it really sucks it went the way it did with him as a coach, but from the things I saw and what I heard about what was going on, I think he needed to take a step back. I hope things go better for him in the future if he gets another head coaching chance somewhere.

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Місяць тому

      The year you were born was the first year that my mom & I started going to one Husker game per year (the tickets were an early birthday present from my grandparents); I was 10. We started that year because Gerry Gdowski (who was from my hometown of Fremont) was the Huskers’ starting QB that year. 1997 (my freshman year of college in South Dakota) was the only year I missed a game from 1989 until 2004; summer of 2005 was when I got married & moved to Kansas. The game in 1998 was the Colorado game ON MY BIRTHDAY (I was home from college for Thanksgiving Break).

    • @austinberry3299
      @austinberry3299 Місяць тому

      @@augiegirl1 that is an awesome story my step father at the time had season tickets so I got to go to a game or two every once in a while when my mom begged him to take me. He really didn’t like taking me when I was younger. I hadn’t been to a game since I was a child basically but I got to go to the Iowa game in 19, because the company I worked for game me box seats the company owner has, when it was for a bowl game and it was such a disappointment. But this year my sister bought 7 tickets for the family for the 400th sellout. Even though they are like the last row in south stadium I can not wait. I already know no matter what happens it’s going to be an amazing environment for that game.

  • @DonaldJamesParker
    @DonaldJamesParker Місяць тому +2

    I think Wisconsin fumbled the ball when they let Jim Leonard slip away. And just to set the record straight - Nebraska isn't trying to copy Wisconsin - they are trying to get back to the old Cornhuskers, which was the model for the Wisconsin winning formula brought to cheese country by Barry Alvarez, whom I remember from the days he starred for the Huskers.

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Місяць тому +1

      Good to see a long-time fan; my mom says she’s been a fan since she was 11, which was when Devaney came (in 1962); she’s now 73.

  • @austinzahradka7365
    @austinzahradka7365 Місяць тому +2

    As a badger fan born in 1993 and only knows winning, it’s definitely tough to watch but I’m okay with it, we need to get to the times and I’m excited to see this thing through whether it takes one more year or 3 more I think we’ll be back just need to establish the new culture and bring in the players

    • @GOATkilr
      @GOATkilr Місяць тому

      You sons of bitches have owned Nebraska since we joined the conference. I wish y’all nothing but the best but god damnit it would be nice to be able to run up some wins in the column against you so we can actually call it a bit of a brotherly rivalry.

    • @GOATkilr
      @GOATkilr Місяць тому

      Instead of you guys spanking our ass. I still have nightmares about games against you in the Pelini years…

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому

      @@BMBMBM82733 It would have been interesting if they would have had Wilson at the same time as one of their better defenses. They never seemed to quite put it all together.

    • @nlbulldog2001
      @nlbulldog2001 Місяць тому

      See previous comment. It took nebraska 20 years of trying to modernize only to fall back to what they always were.... hopefully jimmy is still available in 2 years

  • @terrylessmann2274
    @terrylessmann2274 Місяць тому +1

    Agree 💯
    Rhule is taking the Huskers back to their roots - tough team, own both lines of scrimmage, plus a 5* Joe Cool QB. Rhule is embracing the past while building for the future.
    WI has always been 20 yrs behind Neb. Unfortunately they're now about to fall just like the Huskers of the 2000s did under the guise of "modernization". Good luck digging out of that hole. It took us 20 yrs.

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому

      You raise some good points with the modernization part, Michigan also went through this with the Rich Rod experiment as well. But Wisconsin is 11-1 vs Nebraska including 10 straight wins, I'm not sure you can say Nebraska has been ahead of Wisconsin for 20 years..

    • @terrylessmann2274
      @terrylessmann2274 Місяць тому

      @@BigTenTed I'm saying WI follows whatever Neb was doing 20 yrs ago. So now modern day WI is doing what Neb from the 2000s was doing - modernizing to a passing offense from a power running attack. That started a cycle of changing coaches for Neb as ea coach didn't have the players they needed to get done what they wanted. Portal changes that now, but ADs have a shorter runway for coaches today. Cultures have to change along with the modern offense.
      No ques WI has scoreboard on Neb, although there have been sev close games. But our clock has been reset with Rhule and we're looking forward to see how this team stacks up against the rest of the B1G.

  • @Greg-w1h8j
    @Greg-w1h8j Місяць тому +6

    Barry Alvarez came from Nebraksa

    • @Corey-dy2cq
      @Corey-dy2cq Місяць тому

      Yes he uh PLAYED at Nebraska. Don't know where he actually came from. I think it was the Devaney years though.......and things like this...thank you for your riveting contribution

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому

      ​@@Corey-dy2cqHe coached under Hayden Frye at Iowa on the defensive staff for a while before heading to Notre Dame as their DC under Lou Holtz before being head coach at UW.

  • @MosaicMedia-e1p
    @MosaicMedia-e1p Місяць тому

    I believe he was also on the coaching staff

  • @tri__yt
    @tri__yt Місяць тому

    Both program rebuilds are still TBD in my opinion, though Nebraska looked really good at the start of the Colorado game. A couple of thoughts:
    - While Wisconsin had a better record in general, something was up with their recruiting the last couple of years under Chryst. Rhule inherited a lot more talent and NIL whereas Fickell is having to rebuild more from the ground up and probably can't lean as much on NIL. Badgers might need to give him another year or two to show what he's got, as painful as that might sound.
    - Nebraska looks better than Wisconsin certainly, but they haven't played anyone yet. They beat UTEP, who lost to an FCS school last weekend and Colorado, who almost lost to an FCS school in week 1. Nebraska also didn't score once in the second half and got 14 of their 28 points from unlikely plays. In one, Sanders threw late to the sideline from his own goal line and in the second, Nebraska was almost picked, but it bounced out of the defender's hands and to a Colorado receiver. As they say, Colorado had to capitalize on those opportunities... But it seems a bit premature that some are declaring the program rebuilt on these two games alone.

  • @ahills-plays6471
    @ahills-plays6471 Місяць тому +2

    I would agree with Nebraska being in a better place right now, but also they haven’t done anything yet. Bowl game even.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому +1

      So if that's the case, what happens when they do start improving?

    • @nnonotnow
      @nnonotnow Місяць тому

      Neither has Wisconsin under their new coach

    • @ahills-plays6471
      @ahills-plays6471 Місяць тому

      @@nnonotnow he’s coached in 2 bowl games

    • @ahills-plays6471
      @ahills-plays6471 Місяць тому

      @@DillyPutty I see both programs moving in the right direction. And if they start improving the conference will look better.

  • @mikeamato5655
    @mikeamato5655 Місяць тому

    Especially playing Alabama this week

  • @FatSauce45
    @FatSauce45 Місяць тому +1

    Nebraska should throw the bag at Coach White and make him the highest paid assistant in college football. Pay him 3-4 mil to stay. He isn’t getting that if he leaves to HC

    • @Corey-dy2cq
      @Corey-dy2cq Місяць тому

      Agree but I don't think TW will stay. He wants to be a head coach somewhere.

  • @pavelstrelchuk216
    @pavelstrelchuk216 Місяць тому

    Wisconsin doesnt run a air-raid, the air-raid idea is just a recruiting pitch to get more talented athletes to wisco, then theyll get a legit play caller after using longo for recruiting

  • @markhenderson5674
    @markhenderson5674 Місяць тому

    Wisconsin modeled its entire program off old school Nebraska. The Huskers aren’t borrowing from Wisconsin, they’re just getting back to their roots.

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому

      I didn't say borrowing, I said it's similar to old school Wisconsin, which isn't discrediting old school Nebraska at all, it's a credit to that of anything.

  • @cliffrichardson
    @cliffrichardson Місяць тому +1

    Why is Luke Fickell having more trouble at Wisconsin than he did at Cincinatti?

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому +3

      Cincinnati was one of the top programs in their G5 conference, Wisconsin isn't a top program in the Big Ten (at least not right now) . It's a tougher challenge, like I said, I think its a longer build for Luke.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому

      @@BigTenTed Ridder was a very good G5 QB too.

    • @cliffrichardson
      @cliffrichardson Місяць тому

      @@BigTenTed , that makes sense. I guess what I find interesting is the variety of combinations that make a good team. We tend to think G5 teams are not as strong as P4 teams, but given the right coach and some patience any team can be built into a powerhouse. Herb Brooks was right, it's not about getting the best players, it's about getting the right players. It's what makes sports great!

  • @WhiteBreadCrumb
    @WhiteBreadCrumb Місяць тому

    Tony white will be a head coach this time next year

  • @michaelfelli7661
    @michaelfelli7661 Місяць тому

    Nebraska utilized the portal better than Wisconsin and FSU. Indiana, too.

  • @badgerbill336
    @badgerbill336 Місяць тому

    Preach

  • @bryanviator6734
    @bryanviator6734 Місяць тому

    You can tell Ted hasn’t been watching football for more than 20 years if he thinks great defense and run the ball at Nebraska is a copy and paste of Wisconsin lol, Ted find out who Barry Alvarez is and where he learned all that. 😂

    • @BigTenTed
      @BigTenTed  Місяць тому

      I literally said "it isn't a complete copy and paste but it's similar to the type of mindset" that Wisconsin used to be. I'm aware Barry played at Nebraska in the 60s, I'm aware Wisconsin's image is based off of what Bob Devaney and Tom Osbourne at Nebraska for decades and decades. Just because I say current Nebraska reminds me of old Wisconsin, doesn't mean I'm discrediting old school Nebraska... Obviously.

  • @SlamburglarWSU
    @SlamburglarWSU Місяць тому +4

    As a husker fan, Fickell seems like a good coach but a bad fit for Wisconsin. Bringing an air raid scheme to a school whos identity has been a physical run game just doesnt feel right to me.

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Місяць тому

      Is Bill Callahan the only reason you feel this way? Just because it didn't work for us, doesn't mean it can't work @ other places.

    • @SlamburglarWSU
      @SlamburglarWSU Місяць тому +3

      @@augiegirl1 haha definitely part of it. Also, its not a great offense in bad weather which is gonna happen in the midwest.

    • @Corey-dy2cq
      @Corey-dy2cq Місяць тому

      Kind of like a pocket passer bring us to the promised land qb at NU? You callin da pot black yo

    • @samp7019
      @samp7019 Місяць тому

      Nebraska doesn't rely on passing they are very balanced​@Corey-dy2cq

    • @SlamburglarWSU
      @SlamburglarWSU Місяць тому

      @@Corey-dy2cq pro style isnt the same as an air raid. I was thinking of washington state in the 2018 apple cup. Game was in a blizzard and they were really limited by that

  • @claven3608
    @claven3608 Місяць тому

    Wisconsin will have a losing season. They will absolutely get destroyed the next two games and maybe win three after that. They are about a top 50 team at this point coupled with a fairly tough schedule.
    Nebraska is a top 20 team with a great schedule.

  • @brauckstar
    @brauckstar Місяць тому

    Colorado is horrible. The only reason that was a big game is because the entire nation wants CU to stfu

  • @andrewmueller9986
    @andrewmueller9986 Місяць тому +2

    Fickell should have stayed at Cincy

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому

      He would have had to play Big 12 teams every week. Smart to cash out like Frost did.

    • @andrewmueller9986
      @andrewmueller9986 Місяць тому

      @@DillyPutty Playing big 12 teams would be bad? I think Cincy under a Fickell could be a winning program in the big12. Maybe not a perrenilal champ contender, but above average.

    • @DillyPutty
      @DillyPutty Місяць тому +1

      @@andrewmueller9986 And that's not going to get you the Wisconsin payday. The G5 teams that joined the Big 12 haven't faired particularly well.

    • @andrewmueller9986
      @andrewmueller9986 Місяць тому

      @@DillyPutty they have only been in 1 or 2 yeah but so far you're right. Yeah I guess Wisconsin had advantages over cincy but it's gonna really tough for wisky to get in the playoff

  • @Corey-dy2cq
    @Corey-dy2cq Місяць тому

    I've been a Nebraska fan since I was 10 years old in 1980. Those offenses showed up game one knowing what the hell they were doing. We ran option in high school. Loved it....dominated.....until we ran into those teams that DLs outweighed and out athleted our Oline. Then it wasn't fun because we didn't know what to do. Coach would have chewed my ass for not trying to ram through the assigned hole. But we couldn't. And they can't when BIG play starts. The holes aren't going to be there. BUT!!!!!!! That's when Dylan opens it up with the pass. We haven't had a downfield threat in like......forever! But curb it homers, curb it. They gon lay an egg an it sooner dan you fink!

  • @THEPOSSUMNUTS
    @THEPOSSUMNUTS Місяць тому

    No need for the bullshit because they are on our schedule. We will see