the driving force in the band musically. they'd be nothing without him. plenty of gigs where they've all been off their face and played badly.... but not Mick. always dependable.
I feel like no one is expecting Vince to be like 80s Vince or early 90s Vince but atleast mid 90s-early 2000s Vince weight he looks so young and fresh here and sounds great
He started having trouble with his weight in the mid 90s when his daughter died a couple years after his wife left him. He was already carrying the guilt of killing Razzle by that point, but losing his young daughter in such a painful way of seeing her so scared and slowly dying... a drawn out and horrible way to watch a loved one, especially your child, die... so I understand why he was so depressed and became a reclusive, all day drinker, all day pill popper, all day munchies of booze/pill inspired binge eating, and since this happened during the Corabi Era so Vince had no tours or anything that would keep him in anyway physically active. So yeah at first when the weight gain started he was looking bloated and would try to hide it pretty well with looser clothes, but since he never lost any of the bloat once he gained it, and kept on eating badly, drinking way too much, and never attempted to do anything to stay active or learn how to properly sing which would've helped him tremendously since breath control and trying to sing through his nose instead of his chest are the 2 main issues with his love voice. Hell red hot chili peppers lead singer used to not be able to sing at all and could only rap, and had to take voice lessons to learn how to sign and kept on taking lessons during the 90s till he finally learned to sing fairly well, I say all that because someone like Vince actually had a natural ability to sing in the right key, have a range of notes he could hit and it was just always untamed. If he had learned how to sing from his chest it would've given his voice much more power and sounded more bold and full, while learning how to control his breathing and breath from the stomach instead of the chest while singing it would've helped his phrasing, breath distribution, and would've allowed him to sing all the words instead of running out of air on the last word or 2 for every line. Then you got the band enabling him instead of giving him a reality check and they allow him to make an absolute fool of himself looking like a stuffed turkey wearing way to small clothes, attempting to sing "Dr. Feelgood" but is so out of breath that every other word is just a moan, wail, or just gibberish and ruining the song... as he does on all the fast paced songs and songs with a lot of lyrics in each line where he ruins the songs and sounds just horrible to the point of cringe. The only songs he can still kinda sing are stuff like home sweet home because of its slower tempo, the mood of the song being the kind that he stands still while singing it, and less words in each line so he can pass with a D-
Back in 83 when shout at the devil came out Mick Mars sound and style inspired millions of us kids to pick up guitars and learn to play just like EVH did in 78....thanks Mick Mars for the inspiration I'm 59 and still play!!!
I saw this tour in San Antonio with Megadeth. When I pulled up to the SA Colesium I expected to 10;000 cars in the lot. Instead there were about 2;000 cars there. I could not believe how poorly attended the show was. The place was empty.
Ive seen motley 3 times back in the day and i can tell you this was th best ive ever heard this band on this show!!! sorry tommy you got ur ass kicked!!
Could of made her a full time member she seemed very comfortable and gave all the songs a little bit of her own flavor which is nice to see instead of most guests looking like robots trying to play every song exactly note for note, that’s only my opinion though keep it metal!🤘
He still has great sound he just gets lazy sometimes with the words instead of enunciating the words all the time or tries to change it I prefer the original way myself and mick is a fkn beast 💪🏻
Amidst current discussions on "empowerment", "girlpower" and so, by 2000 a woman was playing drums (and she nailed it, technically no second to Tommy) for a band considered as sexist and misogynistic. How Crue is that?
AMEN!! You sir are a legend. Not many people know the history of how Jim Dandy influenced all these cats... BOA got screwed royally. Invented southern rock, then got fucked out if their own music.. Mr. Butch Stone was my manager a few years back. Washed up and basically stealing money from people with lies.. A long ways away from that 1975 manager of the year award he got for managing Black Oak Arkansas... He helped screw them I believe. Anyways... crazy history
real fucking shame vince can’t just stand still so he can sing at least half the lyrics, i’m a crue head myself but it really kills the vibe cause of how vince has lost his talent man
Back in the late 90’s/2000 there was nothing more uncool than 80’s “Hair bands” I used to get ridiculed for loving Mötley back then...4 Or 5 years later it was a completely different story.
@@DickTwatkins exactly. In 2004 it was still considered uncool by some. I got ridiculed by a guitar teacher and a friend of mine both told me that 'motley has no other fans but me and I'd be the only fan at the concerts.' Next thing I'm at the concert in Sydney 2005 and it's packed.
Actually is not an small venue, is the Maverick Center in Salt Lake City, which can hold up to 12.000 people, it was on the maximum rock tour with Megadeth, so maybe it wasn't sold out but for sure no small venue, and also on the carnival DVD you can see is an arena instead of a stadium, just saying...
I hate the lazy way Vince sings in concert. He effectively sings half of the lyrics. Not sure if it is a habit, or just something he just does. Either way I hate it. She's good, but no Tommy Lee.
Big Meanie Look at it this way, by the time Samantha Maloney was brought in to play for the New Tattoo tour, Motley had already been at it for 20 years, Vince was already 41 years old and had strained what voice he had ever had. Vince never was a vocal God, by any means, but he was the sound of Motley Crue. At that point he had already wailed his vocal chords out of wack 1,000 times. Try and find any singer from the hair band era that still sounds the same after 20 years! You won't find many. Stephen Pearcy, David Coverdale, Janie Lane, Sebastian Bach, Tom Keifer etc etc . . . .all lost their 20 year old pipes within 10 or 15 years. It's the nature of the business, but the one time Motley fired Vince, they couldn't make any money at all. You have to look at the whole package, and Nikki, Tommy, Mick, Vince & even with Samantha succeeded, where most bands from that era/genre just fell apart, quit or died. Truth be told, most of those singers from that genre were better in the studio than they were live, and I saw most of them. I actually saw Iron Maiden in 1987, trust me, even Bruce Dickenson, as great as he is . . . . .even he sounds better on an album than he does live.
+Fred Brauer You are right man. People arguing about voice or playing an instrument and this and that. They forget the fact that this business is about entertaining and Mötley Crüe in its original line up one of the best bands at it.
Ding dong your opinion is wrong ;) Mick has an INCREDIBLE amount of skill and talent,his stands out the most to me. They all do. Some more than others..
Let's take the time to appreciate how badass and amazing Mick is
fuck yeah
Bob's the real Deal.......
That Mick kid might go places if he sticks with it 😁
the driving force in the band musically. they'd be nothing without him. plenty of gigs where they've all been off their face and played badly.... but not Mick. always dependable.
Hey kids wanna see a vampire do a guitar solo?😜 Mick is such a legend!
Sam did a killer job sitting in for Randy while he was sick with cancer,RIP Randy!
Yes, she did
I feel like no one is expecting Vince to be like 80s Vince or early 90s Vince but atleast mid 90s-early 2000s Vince weight he looks so young and fresh here and sounds great
Agreed. He's really let himself go
He started having trouble with his weight in the mid 90s when his daughter died a couple years after his wife left him. He was already carrying the guilt of killing Razzle by that point, but losing his young daughter in such a painful way of seeing her so scared and slowly dying... a drawn out and horrible way to watch a loved one, especially your child, die... so I understand why he was so depressed and became a reclusive, all day drinker, all day pill popper, all day munchies of booze/pill inspired binge eating, and since this happened during the Corabi Era so Vince had no tours or anything that would keep him in anyway physically active. So yeah at first when the weight gain started he was looking bloated and would try to hide it pretty well with looser clothes, but since he never lost any of the bloat once he gained it, and kept on eating badly, drinking way too much, and never attempted to do anything to stay active or learn how to properly sing which would've helped him tremendously since breath control and trying to sing through his nose instead of his chest are the 2 main issues with his love voice. Hell red hot chili peppers lead singer used to not be able to sing at all and could only rap, and had to take voice lessons to learn how to sign and kept on taking lessons during the 90s till he finally learned to sing fairly well, I say all that because someone like Vince actually had a natural ability to sing in the right key, have a range of notes he could hit and it was just always untamed. If he had learned how to sing from his chest it would've given his voice much more power and sounded more bold and full, while learning how to control his breathing and breath from the stomach instead of the chest while singing it would've helped his phrasing, breath distribution, and would've allowed him to sing all the words instead of running out of air on the last word or 2 for every line. Then you got the band enabling him instead of giving him a reality check and they allow him to make an absolute fool of himself looking like a stuffed turkey wearing way to small clothes, attempting to sing "Dr. Feelgood" but is so out of breath that every other word is just a moan, wail, or just gibberish and ruining the song... as he does on all the fast paced songs and songs with a lot of lyrics in each line where he ruins the songs and sounds just horrible to the point of cringe. The only songs he can still kinda sing are stuff like home sweet home because of its slower tempo, the mood of the song being the kind that he stands still while singing it, and less words in each line so he can pass with a D-
Back in 83 when shout at the devil came out Mick Mars sound and style inspired millions of us kids to pick up guitars and learn to play just like EVH did in 78....thanks Mick Mars for the inspiration I'm 59 and still play!!!
Agree ! and what's cool is Mick and Eddie were friends in the 70's , the band Mick was in before MC. used to play clubs with Van Halen in L.A.
One of the best guitar solos in RNR. Mick is definitely under rated. Wasn't interested in showing off on stage, just did his thing.
Thank God for Mick Mars. He carried the Crue for years. Vince, that dude died years ago.
No, fuck you
@@elluchadoresrojo5098 I agree totally. Fuck Vince. You nailed it perfectly.
Vince rocks!! Always has always will!!
Vince died when he started doing more coke than singing
Screw Vince, but Tommy shared the load equally with mick.
Vince just Nailed The Scream after the Solo...
this song just makes me wanna destroy everything, micks solo makes me wanna tear stuff up...LOVE IT!!!
Yup
5:22
samantha wasnt a guest she played the whole tour
well duh....Randy didn't come back to finish the tour because he died . Dumbass
Vince sounds pretty fucking solid here
Mick is Motley Crue!! No Mick No Crue!
Bob is and always was Motley Crue.
SAMANTHA MALONEY ROCKS
I think your right ✅️ Sammy Rocks 🥁
Amazing she is, a pretty girl
Mick played the solo all over the fucking place to see if Sam could catch the changes... she didn't miss a beat... literally
I saw this tour in San Antonio with Megadeth. When I pulled up to the SA Colesium I expected to 10;000 cars in the lot. Instead there were about 2;000 cars there. I could not believe how poorly attended the show was. The place was empty.
this might be the best version of this song out there - the '85 live versions are top as well!!
Who here is not thinking the dirt hearing this song live you know it’s time to watch it again
Samantha sure has a swing to here drumming. w00t!
Ive seen motley 3 times back in the day and i can tell you this was th best ive ever heard this band on this show!!! sorry tommy you got ur ass kicked!!
lmao....sure buddy....sure
Not even close, seen crue with all 3 different drummers and tommy is the best
Great job on the drums Sam!
Didnt hurt that Nikki was doing her at the time.
The drums for this song are so simple yet sound so fucking awesome.
Vince is Still nuts and he's the best of them all😂 what a dude. Broke the mold on all of em but he's one of a kind. 😅
Amazing drummer!
mick mars favorite guitarist ever
We’ve never had a girl drummer before!....Sam 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙌
Pretty good , Mick Mars is a badass guitar 🎸 player. One of my favorites.
.....AND YOU KNOW VINCE HIT THAT!!!!!
If she was with Nikki she was dam lucky😁😁😁😁
Yup Nikki cheated on Donna with Samantha......which between that and falling off the wagon a bit, ended their marriage.
I thought nikki did said in his book
I love Tommy but Dam Sam kicks ass!!
Vince sounds great! Full of energy
I saw Randy Castillo June 1986 when he was drumming for Ozzy Osbourne. RIP. 😔
You guys are sure a lot better in studio on this song
i cant beleave its been 12 years butt i was at the show and it was so crazy i lost my minde just to be thear
Margrittias,awesome crowd with oneonly crue best summer one of the best drinks all around.lovin loud motley time together.
This must have been an amazing show
Could of made her a full time member she seemed very comfortable and gave all the songs a little bit of her own flavor which is nice to see instead of most guests looking like robots trying to play every song exactly note for note, that’s only my opinion though keep it metal!🤘
Props for my town...Salt Lake City!
Damn what a drummer
Mick MARS IS AWESOME
This is motley crue, today its just corporate bs. Samantha kicked ass on this tour, I remember it well.
This shit's bitchin'
Sixx had an affair with the female drummer (source: his book The heroin diaries)
i dont think that surprises anybody haha
@@vorcie9794 true
Unos de los mejores solos se guitarra que existen
He still has great sound he just gets lazy sometimes with the words instead of enunciating the words all the time or tries to change it I prefer the original way myself and mick is a fkn beast 💪🏻
Mick is awesome!
Thts sum real double bass drum playn rite ther 🤘👊🤝🤞🖖👌💪🙏🤙✌👍🤟
Actually Nikki did when he was married to Donna D'Arico (sp?)
Where was Tommy 13 years ago?
alice cooper on guitar :D
No
Motley Crüe heres my wife
Damn I wish like hell I could've seen these guys while Vince still sounded decent.
This was so fucking sick
She's good!!
This was played so fast Vince couldn't get all the words out.
Awesome
2:18
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Crue
Big Mac $1.03
Vince was strarting his animal sounds.....
The worst part about this awesome live track is the constant fake crowd noise
Nikki Sixx.F**K.Rules!!!
+Johnny Marlin He can't play bass worth shit
John Brown can you play the bass
@@tonywolfe918 i guess not🤷♂️
drum she is it?
Why can’t she make an appearance at one of the stadium shows?
O YEAH
nice job
Amidst current discussions on "empowerment", "girlpower" and so, by 2000 a woman was playing drums (and she nailed it, technically no second to Tommy) for a band considered as sexist and misogynistic. How Crue is that?
Fuck yea jammin baby
Action at 4:50 🤫
best voice ever
give it up for utah
I’m available🥁😏😏😏😘😎
Vince does a great David Lee Roth impression lol Cheers to Jim Dandy and Black Oake Arkansas.
AMEN!! You sir are a legend. Not many people know the history of how Jim Dandy influenced all these cats... BOA got screwed royally. Invented southern rock, then got fucked out if their own music.. Mr. Butch Stone was my manager a few years back. Washed up and basically stealing money from people with lies.. A long ways away from that 1975 manager of the year award he got for managing Black Oak Arkansas... He helped screw them I believe. Anyways... crazy history
Well I might b leaving under a rock but where's tommmy ?
Leaving or living.
Tommy left the band
Left to pursue his own solo stuff.....he came back shortly after though
real fucking shame vince can’t just stand still so he can sing at least half the lyrics, i’m a crue head myself but it really kills the vibe cause of how vince has lost his talent man
how come their playing such a small venue and such a small crowd? on carnival of sins their playing a massive stadium
Back in the late 90’s/2000 there was nothing more uncool than 80’s “Hair bands” I used to get ridiculed for loving Mötley back then...4 Or 5 years later it was a completely different story.
@@DickTwatkins jokes on ya then you didn't kick their ass xd
@@DickTwatkins exactly. In 2004 it was still considered uncool by some. I got ridiculed by a guitar teacher and a friend of mine both told me that 'motley has no other fans but me and I'd be the only fan at the concerts.' Next thing I'm at the concert in Sydney 2005 and it's packed.
IBM Official they’re
Actually is not an small venue, is the Maverick Center in Salt Lake City, which can hold up to 12.000 people, it was on the maximum rock tour with Megadeth, so maybe it wasn't sold out but for sure no small venue, and also on the carnival DVD you can see is an arena instead of a stadium, just saying...
Wow
fun. woe. hi. motley.
She aint no Tommey Lee...
True...no one is...but she did excellent. Samantha is very talented and still going strong
Vince sounds good Here
dan. hi. dan. rock. it. baby.
Y Tommy lee , de parranda no? Su ke la baterista no desmerece.
That guy at 5:22 just pumped
Well would’ve been better if she play a solo instead of just playing a beat
Playing way too fast
motley. s. barmaid.
play the fuking song
you got more words during the 3 minute speech than the song
nah duder donna wasnt cool enough fo NIKKI
Thanks for the fuckin 3 minute speech
drum audio too loud sounds like a rodeo
I hate the lazy way Vince sings in concert. He effectively sings half of the lyrics. Not sure if it is a habit, or just something he just does. Either way I hate it. She's good, but no Tommy Lee.
Big Meanie Look at it this way, by the time Samantha Maloney was brought in to play for the New Tattoo tour, Motley had already been at it for 20 years, Vince was already 41 years old and had strained what voice he had ever had. Vince never was a vocal God, by any means, but he was the sound of Motley Crue. At that point he had already wailed his vocal chords out of wack 1,000 times. Try and find any singer from the hair band era that still sounds the same after 20 years! You won't find many. Stephen Pearcy, David Coverdale, Janie Lane, Sebastian Bach, Tom Keifer etc etc . . . .all lost their 20 year old pipes within 10 or 15 years. It's the nature of the business, but the one time Motley fired Vince, they couldn't make any money at all. You have to look at the whole package, and Nikki, Tommy, Mick, Vince & even with Samantha succeeded, where most bands from that era/genre just fell apart, quit or died. Truth be told, most of those singers from that genre were better in the studio than they were live, and I saw most of them. I actually saw Iron Maiden in 1987, trust me, even Bruce Dickenson, as great as he is . . . . .even he sounds better on an album than he does live.
+Fred Brauer You are right man. People arguing about voice or playing an instrument and this and that. They forget the fact that this business is about entertaining and Mötley Crüe in its original line up one of the best bands at it.
It's habit man. It's something he's developed over time from laziness I can only assume.
no, he can't sing anymore. it's exactly why they retired. nikki, tommy and even mick can still play great, but vince has no pipes anymore
He has only been singing half of the lyrics since Shout At The Devil days. I just watch Crue's live stuff to get annoyed lol.
I’d be so embarrassed if I was playing with Vince
Im sorry but that sucked compared 2 what they usually do. Banged the snare. Hell I can do that!
One of the most unskilled band of all tine. Except Tom.
Ding dong your opinion is wrong ;)
Mick has an INCREDIBLE amount of skill and talent,his stands out the most to me. They all do. Some more than others..
Not good
Vince most always sucked live.Studio was great live lame I saw em three times one time he was decent back in 1983
Was vince neil castrated? Wtf happened! I wish i didnt see this
vocals sux bad